Installing my diesel heater under the driver's seat - VB27
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- I had this idea I was going to quickly, and easily, install my diesel heater under the drivers seat, just like @Mevi has done, he kindly sent me the PDF instructions too, they show it fitting slightly differently than I wanted to fit mine, and they show a 2Kw heater and I have a 5kw heater, but I figured I could make it work.
So what you're about to see is 12 hours of me making this work how I wanted it to whilst the van fought me every step of the way.
I went for the Maxpeeding Rods 5kw diesel heater with bluetooth as I was drawn to the gadget side of the remote heater management idea.
Here's what I bought:
White plastic fuel line & fuel filter - amzn.to/3VUwuMy
Fuel tank feed pipe kit - amzn.to/3UNSl7g
5Kw Maxpeeding rods smart diesel heater - amzn.to/3F7yXMQ
Diesel Heater turret - amzn.to/3uDBj18
Genuine Webaster quiet exhaust - ebay.us/kY4ER8
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I’d love a diesel heater over my gas one that’s the one thing I miss from our old motorhome. Good job John nice one.
Thanks John for this. It's a great help!. I'm starting today with the installation. Allready removed the insulation on the floor under the, in my case, passengers seat. But be very carefull with the cables under the insulation. I missed the cables, while cutting out the insulation with a knife, by only less than a millimeter! But anayway: thanks!
Perfect timing for getting the heater installed with the current freezing weather John - although no doubt much better overnight inside your workshop. Anyway I hope that you can avoid overloading yourself too much - from trying to get too much done on both vans in the lead up to Xmas. Good luck, and stay well...💪
Ooh er John, hadn't a clue what you were talking about but it sounded quite fascinating! Oh what it is to be a run o' the mill pleb! I'm happy though if you're happy and that's all that matters.
Keep at it man! You're doing a grand job! Take care. Love Pam xx
Patience of a Saint you have john. Good job very well done.
Really helpful, thanks John, especially the fuel feed and where to fit it.
Have a great weekend, all the best, David 👍
Great job John concise and very handy. So far we have not had to use to much heating here in Turkey. Just in the Cappadocia region.
If it's constantly reporting low voltage incorrectly, and keeps shutting down you may want to consider putting it an up-buck converter. It would be wired it in at the heaters end of the cable, the heater would then get a consistent higher voltage. It does means it will pull slightly more current, but there will be a higher voltage at the heater. I have a few in my van for devices that are very sensitive over voltage, and it provides them with a regulated voltage that does not vary with the van's batteries or when its charging.
That’s not needed, as I said in the video I’d resolved that 👍🏻
@@GadgetJohn Glad to hear its no longer a problem for you, and just a transitory issue.
@@GadgetJohn How did you resolve the low-voltage issue? It's been plaguing me for months!!
@@RetroBytesUK There is a potential problem with adding a DC-DC converter that always has the same voltage output. Low voltage detection exists for a reason. It is there so if the voltage is in fact low and the batteries are close to being empty the heater has enough time to shut down in a safe way. If it just loses power the fan shut off at the same time as the combustion, which means the hot combustion chamber can heat up the control board too much and it can overheat and die. There is a reason the heater has a shutdown procedure with running the fan for a time after combustion to keep cooling the combustion chamber.
I used a much thicker grade cable than was needed, instead of 16 amp rated cable I used 30 amp cable and that sorted it.
Good test of the heater with the current weather.
Great work John, I’ve got the same heater still boxed up ready for install into my Citroen Relay, been waiting for the Bobil water heater which arrived today so no excuse apart form the freezing temperatures to get cracking very soon, good luck with the rest of the build 👍
Good work John .. Not easy laying on your back ..I'm sure there was so Choice words used 😁 Stay Free and Safe Travels 😎
Well done John, doing and filming must add a whole more level of complexity. Surprised it draws so much but I guess that super B2B setup will laugh that off. Keep them coming
I hated fitting my heater-mainly because with a wonky spine it was painful going under the van. I'm glad I did though cos if I do get to go out this winter Ive got good heating. You did a great job John. Liking the Blue tooth connectivity of yours though. bessy regs-Kenny
Happy days, you’re gonna need it with baltic temps this week 🥶🥶🥶
Thank you very much ! very useful !
Exactly the same thing with my heater too! I had to attach the heaters own cable straight up to my starter battery not a chance on my leisure ones
Nice one John, I’ve been pondering whether we needed a d-heater in ours (finding reasons why we didn’t need one) (as I have doubts in myself in whether I can fit one) but now acknowledge we need a heater.
Shipping bricks about it but I will attempt it, hopefully I’ll succeed.
Will be taking tips from all major UA-cam videos! 😀👍🏼
Just in time John I say , cold it's getting now!!
Great vlog It’s all coming together now top work 👍
Hats off to you John , looks a great job 👍
Your a clever laddie John...Nice one mate 🙂
Looks to make a lot more sense to have the diesel heater pointing that way. I guess that voltage sensitivity might explain why Mel couldn't get it to run on the Solar Generator properly (forget which one it was, he has so many!)
Thanks for sharing John 👍
At least you're going to be nice and warm and it's all done and fitted so be nice and toasty in your van could only I keep on going to Marle's job
Well done chum, keep going !!!
Very impressive! Well done!!
Don’t you say exhaust strangely? 😉 making excellent progress John, looking forward to seeing it done.
We have been debating weather or not to install a diesel heater to supplement our lpg fueled Truma E2400 heating system. After last new years eve in the Pyrenees we probably will go for a 2kw unit and locate it underneath the passenger seat in our Sprinter. Kinda sorry I didn't know about all the options when I started out on our adventure.
It looks like the same as mine not bad especially with the key fob as you can get it warmed up before you get to to van
Nice one John, great vlog and gives lot's to ponder about. I do wonder about access for servicing etc. having had to get into my free standing workshop heater in the past, and how you've mitigated that for future ease. All good fun. 👋
Very nice work ❤❤❤
Quick question. Your fuel pick up pipe. Did you just screw the fitting into the top of the fuel sender without using a check nut on the underside.
Thanks for posting you build. Sure it will inspire many who watch.
Hari om
........well done to you. Bit of a faff and I doubt I would opt for one of these, despite every banner apparently going for them. YAM xx
Sikaflex sticks like shit to a blanket. Great stuff.
Great vid. Where did you get the pillar plastics ? Behind the seat running up the body of van
Hi John. I had the same low voltage problem when I fitted my heater. It turned out to be voltage drop across the panel switch and fuse. Sorted it by using a heavy duty isolator switch and quality inline fuse holder.
Great work mate , fair play too you for doing this all yourself… I think it’s definitely Beyond me ☺️
good vid vans look good keep up the good vid thanks lee
Lost me ? But you know what you're talking about!
I hope Mandy was taking notes when you fitted this..... Sounds like she maybe fitting here own 😏
We chose a different location for Mandys heater after this, her diesel heater install was pretty easy compared to this one b
John hi happy new year. Thanks for the video its very helpful. Can you confirm the location re access to diesel tank, is everything OK or is there any update any problem etc ? I am doing similar re access point into the tank and location of heating system. I've watched lots of video on this and yours is more straight forward "John's way" lol, one last thing, why did you not connect directly to the batteries under passenger side ? Thanks for advice.
As shown in the video the diesel tank on these vans is accessed from the floor between the single seats, since i have a campervan my electrical system and heating are seperate form the vehicle electrics so I don't flatten my start battery as that's all it's designed to do
Hi John, thanks for the video. I just ordered the same kit for my van. I was wondering why your ordered the a separate exhaust and did not use the one which came with the kit?
did you have to cut through the heat shield to fit the exhaust in ?
Yes I did 👍🏻
Hi, how did you seal pick up pipe to the fuel assembly?
John, ever thought about the google video specs for doing works underneath whilst working?
Thanks John. How did you seal the electrical connection on the pump underneath?
The pump cable has a special connection that seals as it fits to the pump.
@@GadgetJohndid you have to drill another hole in floor to to drop the pump cable plug down to connect to the pump?
Hey John having done yours and Mandy’s now which location do you recommend as being the easiest and best please. Obviously if either location suits intended layout
The install in Mandy’s van is far easier, and better for maintenance too, so I’d definitely suggest putting it there.
@@GadgetJohn thanks for your quick reply and advice John really appreciate it
Is John still planning to add a soft close mechanism to the side door or has he dropped the idea?
Hi John. How far off the bottom of tank when fitting diesel heater feed did you go?
I left the fuel pickup pipe around 5cm shorter than the full depth of the tank.
@@GadgetJohn cheers. I was thinking between 5-9cm 👍
Hows it been holding up over the last year John? Any issues?
The placement is working great but I’ve changed to a 2kw heater as the 5kw gave out far too much heat.
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Hi John did you disconnect the battery negative so you don't have an seatbelt pretention error code come up as you removed the seat? Do you have stop start or your van? I seem to remember reading (ages ago) you have to do something else as well if you have stop start but I can't find it again now .
I didn’t bother & didn’t get any errors.
@@GadgetJohn cheers John sounds like you was lucky as loads of people have had probs with the seatbelt pretention error. Liam had an error on the van he just build when I ask him tho didn't say if it was the pretention or stop start. I can't find much info or people who have stop start. But the online hand book says if you have a stop start battery don't disconnect it as it a dealership or experience garage job. And that info took some finding as they don't even give you a hard copy of the hand book with new now lol PS your van is looking great I have finally started ours 4 windows in now.
Hiya john, great job, where did you order the heater from ? Thanks
Check the video description 👍🏻
John when someone says “it’s manic around here” there’s usually a story to tell mate … hope all is ok ?
There is indeed a story to tell & it’ll be told in good time 👍🏻
@@GadgetJohn I thought as much mate ..I hope everything is ok 👍
John is there a video of the finished van? i cant see one ?
It’s far from finished at the moment, around another 6 to 8 weeks I think.
@@GadgetJohn thanks John looking forward to seeing the finished article
Me too 😁
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I wonder how many of us googled swarf!
Hello what size hole cutter do you need? Cheers
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