Thank you for the kind words. As a tradesman, I do have a tendency to rely on data and facts. I hope to convey that attitude in all of my future videos. Have a great day!
Great install..!! I too have purchased an 8kw Hcalory ss2 model. I also am taking inside air to the heater box using sewer style connects on both the trailer & Heater - have spare new sewer hose (I’ll insulate it), to connect both ends. Output is same with a 3x4 reducer to 4” insulated ducting going direct connection to trailers metallic ducting with a 4” take off on the trailer side. Propane trailer heater set as low as possible to avoid competing heat sources. My heater also has Bluetooth for use with their app…which is awesome..! Thanx a bunch for great idea using sewer connections..!! Cheers from Alberta..!
Great video I just subscribed. I’ve been looking into diesel heaters for my camper van project. I really like the idea of putting the heater outside with the sewer line attachments. I hunt near Winnett MT every year. You’re not lying about how cold it gets in MT. Thanks 4 sharing.
I'm sure there will be some loss, but the interior of my camper is only 140 cubic feet. I plan on doing a -20 or colder camping trip this winter as another test. Keep an eye open for it around Dec or Jan.
A little bit when I was running it just to check airflow, being metal based all of that went away pretty early in my testing. I got the hose at Ace hardware
I did a set up similar to yours ! In a Sprinter from the drivers compartment through a bulkhead. We camped with 2 degree lows and realized the importance of keeping your vents closer to the floor. I'm extended further it looks like so it may work better for you. Our floor stayed cold.
I really did want to install the bulkheads lower but did not want to drill thru the diamond plate. Fortunately my campers internal volume is only about 140 cubic ft so when it gets super cold, the intirior should still warm up very quickly.
Thank your for your great video!! Am so excited to make floor heating vents in my shed and run the duct under floor! Span only around 12f but not sure if I should go with 3" or 4"...
I wonder what model heater you have. I flipped through 20 pages of heaters on Amazon and didn't see that model. Feature that would be important is the built-in anti gel capability that you discovered but which none of the vendors mention. Such is the value of your review and highlighting that feature. I'm helping a friend stay warm when the power goes out here. It does not happpen often, but winters here in North Central Washington can get bitter cold, and he lives in a thin wall camping trailer. We'll also install a bifacial vertical solar panel as he has good exposure to the sun and our winter skies are typically clear (hence the bitter cold at night).
Hcalory is apparently ONLY available from the US. I found mine on E-Bay. I live in Alberta and yea, they are not found on Amazon or any other dealer up here.
Yeah I am now just getting into the watts and amps, I decided to get a better solar controller, lithium battery and a bigger solar panel. I got a 12-24 volt and should have gone 48 volt but after the expense I will just stay with the 12-24 since I have made the purchase. I want one of those heaters next
A lot of great points .. You mentioned the need for adequate power on start-up and shut down .. have you tested approximately how long that power supply will run the heater before needing to be recharged?
Great video! You can always buy a dedicated LiFePo4 battery to power the diesel heater. A 50ah or 100ah would be plenty. Wouldn't need the power inverter.
Correct, I am planning on installing 100-200 Ah's of power using LiFePo batteries powered by solar thus eliminating to need for power stations. Although I will still bring one when going out for charging electronics etc when away from the camper.
Very nice. I have a home built cargo trailer to RV but I use a Big Buddy heater plumbed into the RV's propane lines. I love the dry heat of these heaters though. The refueling all the time is the biggest reason I would hesitate. As well as that irritating clicking from the fuel pump. Apparently you can get a quieter fuel pump for about $50. I am curious how much heat you will lose through the hose drawing air from inside the RV. And how well everything will work in extreme cold. Too bad there wasn't room inside for the heater.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures Sounds good. I'm curious too about real world fuel consumption. I live on my bush lot in Quebec in the summer and head for southern Arizona/California for the winter. So I never see much below freezing, and never have to worry about indoor condensation from the Big Buddy propane heater. It would be nice to have something that exhaused outdoors though. But the constant refueling looks like a PITA compared to what I have now being plumbed into the propane line of the RV.
Nice vid! Where did you get the quick disconnect plastic flange that you pointed to on the side of your camper?? Looks perfect. I can find everything else on Amazon except that
One thing i was curious about, the temperature rating on those quick connect wall penetrations. I love that direction you went, in fact im gonna copy with a toungue box.
Not sure what they are rated at, But I did test for any issues by running the heater on high for almost an hour when it was about 95 degrees out and zero issues.
@@CharlesMcNew I contacted valterra and sent them the video link, and they said, " I see our T1020VP bayonet cap and our T1009 bayonet flange." They said working temp is 205, which is prolly close. I wonder what temp it pumps out on high. Anyone know?
Hi, wanted to inquire if you have the links to where you purchased the bulkheads And diesel heater? Also did the diesel heater come with the black enclosure/ case and is it weather proof? Thank you much.
Thanks for the tip...sounds like a video topic for sure...😀 I drove logging truck for a while when I first got out of the Marine Corps, but it was in the redwoods of NorCal, so no gel issues there,
So im looking to extend my heater ducting.. that looks like a foil ducting for air vents. Ive found a similar product but it says not for use in dryer vents... but it looks exactly like that stuff your using
I don’t understand why you don’t have the entire unit inside with one hole going out for your exhaust. The unit would be way more efficient inside as you would not be losing the heat transfer through the hose going to the inside. It only makes sense !
My wife is making me a cover for the heater as we speak, and I mention in the vid I will be installing the power supply inside the camper with waterproof Anderson connections going through the wall, I will be showing the cover when it is complete. Thank you for the comment!!!
Correct. Had it out camping yesterday and it pulled between 140 and 145 watts during start up and a little less during shutdown. On setting number 3 it pulled about 22-25 watts.
Sorry, Buddy, but you are doing it wrong. Exhaust needs to be at a down angle all the way to the outlet so that condensation doesn't choke out the heater.
Sorry Buddy, but I am not. Go to 9:15 in the video where I address the condensation issue and actually comment on making a semi permanent solution by directing it down thru the pan to drain like it should.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures then maybe you should change your thumbnail..... I did NOT watch as the thumbnail depicts that you DID do it wrong! Kinda like clickbait.
I must have missed it., most important information to me and to most , On proper amount of power you briefly mentioned only showing the small kackery but zero details how l9ng will that small jackery run that heater ? and won't that jackery freeze up dead solid as lithieam batteries do in freezing weather? you mener mentioned haveing that jackery on the inside of the camper... there's no way that heater would produce a good amount of heat in - -40 degreese buy the time it acteueally got in the camper the way you set it up...all exposed... This video is horrable ... I wouldn't be following this guy's ways if you don't want to be freezing together in -40 temps.Temps.. Blessings.
Thank you for the comment, I will be testing this set up this winter, that is one of the ideas I had for the video. Watch it again carefully and you will see the answers to your questions.
Please consider subscribing to my channel if you like this kind of content. Thank you.
do these types of heaters need vented outside plan to use 1 in my motorhome
@@craig34668 Yes, the exhaust must go outside to prevent CO poisoning. I prefer to mount the entire heater outside and just duct the warm air inside.
At last someone that speaks clearly No B/S just the facts thank you for your review
Thank you for the kind words. As a tradesman, I do have a tendency to rely on data and facts. I hope to convey that attitude in all of my future videos. Have a great day!
I agree 100%.
Great install..!! I too have purchased an 8kw Hcalory ss2 model. I also am taking inside air to the heater box using sewer style connects on both the trailer & Heater - have spare new sewer hose (I’ll insulate it), to connect both ends. Output is same with a 3x4 reducer to 4” insulated ducting going direct connection to trailers metallic ducting with a 4” take off on the trailer side.
Propane trailer heater set as low as possible to avoid competing heat sources. My heater also has Bluetooth for use with their app…which is awesome..!
Thanx a bunch for great idea using sewer connections..!!
Cheers from Alberta..!
Thanks for the kind words. I can't wait for the sub zero temps to hit this winter so I can give it an extreme weather test!
Thorough explanation of these heaters. I wish mine had a side exhaust instead of one at. The bottom. Thank you from GF MT!
Thank you for the comment, my son and daughter-in-law live in GF!!!
Nice video brother! It's good to see how someone else is adding a diesel heater to their camper.
Thanks!!! More to come.
Great video I just subscribed. I’ve been looking into diesel heaters for my camper van project.
I really like the idea of putting the heater outside with the sewer line attachments. I hunt near Winnett MT every year.
You’re not lying about how cold it gets in MT.
Thanks 4 sharing.
Cannot believe I am going to say this, but I cannot wait for it to get cold so I can do some serious testing LOL.
Hey I love that idea for a heater, maybe my husband can put one in my fiber shop. Thanks 😊
Maybe he...uh....I will!!!
That escalated
@@tacsling 😂
Isnt there heat loss in the silver hose before it gets to the rig, does that need to be insulated. Very concise and clear video.
I'm sure there will be some loss, but the interior of my camper is only 140 cubic feet. I plan on doing a -20 or colder camping trip this winter as another test. Keep an eye open for it around Dec or Jan.
Thank you for the great instructional video. I love Montana.
Thanks for the kind words.
Nice vid. Did you experience any off gassing from that vent hose? Some have complained about this with the black Amazon hoses.
A little bit when I was running it just to check airflow, being metal based all of that went away pretty early in my testing. I got the hose at Ace hardware
I been thinking about one of those heaters, great video
Thanks !!!
I did a set up similar to yours ! In a Sprinter from the drivers compartment through a bulkhead. We camped with 2 degree lows and realized the importance of keeping your vents closer to the floor. I'm extended further it looks like so it may work better for you. Our floor stayed cold.
I really did want to install the bulkheads lower but did not want to drill thru the diamond plate. Fortunately my campers internal volume is only about 140 cubic ft so when it gets super cold, the intirior should still warm up very quickly.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures which model of Hicalory did you purchase ?
@@stoneyvanwie6042 Here is a link to the one I bought: www.amazon.com/HCALORY-5KW-8KW-Luggage-Portable-Bluetooth/dp/B0C379Y3ZT?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Thank your for your great video!! Am so excited to make floor heating vents in my shed and run the duct under floor! Span only around 12f but not sure if I should go with 3" or 4"...
Very interesting I was not aware of these kind of heaters before now I seen a similar one on a trailer in Alaska once but it was in the 2000’s
Thay are super inexpensive too. Really easy to install and work on as well.
Great video, thanks.
You are most welcome!
That's what I've been planning to do with mine
Does that pump thumping noise propagate through the flexible heating hose into your camper and keep you awake?
Nope, when in the field, I set the heater on a small foam pad...quiet as a mouse.
The exhaust muffler needs to be angled down, not up, with the weep hole on the bottom for condensation to drip out.
Watch starting around the 9 minute mark.
I wonder what model heater you have. I flipped through 20 pages of heaters on Amazon and didn't see that model. Feature that would be important is the built-in anti gel capability that you discovered but which none of the vendors mention. Such is the value of your review and highlighting that feature. I'm helping a friend stay warm when the power goes out here. It does not happpen often, but winters here in North Central Washington can get bitter cold, and he lives in a thin wall camping trailer. We'll also install a bifacial vertical solar panel as he has good exposure to the sun and our winter skies are typically clear (hence the bitter cold at night).
Here is the heater I purchased: www.amazon.com/HCALORY-5KW-8KW-Luggage-Portable-Bluetooth/dp/B0C379Y3ZT?ref_=ast_sto_dp
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures Thanks - did not realize it is also a wheelie system. One more plus.
@@lifegettingintheway2710 You're welcome.
Hcalory is apparently ONLY available from the US. I found mine on E-Bay. I live in Alberta and yea, they are not found on Amazon or any other dealer up here.
Yeah I am now just getting into the watts and amps, I decided to get a better solar controller, lithium battery and a bigger solar panel. I got a 12-24 volt and should have gone 48 volt but after the expense I will just stay with the 12-24 since I have made the purchase. I want one of those heaters next
I can't believe I am saying this, but I can hardly wait for it to get down in the negative 30f so I can see how good this thing is going to work!!!
A lot of great points .. You mentioned the need for adequate power on start-up and shut down .. have you tested approximately how long that power supply will run the heater before needing to be recharged?
I am using a small Jackery 290 Wh and it lasts about 10 hours.
Thank you for your video sir.
Great video! You can always buy a dedicated LiFePo4 battery to power the diesel heater. A 50ah or 100ah would be plenty. Wouldn't need the power inverter.
Correct, I am planning on installing 100-200 Ah's of power using LiFePo batteries powered by solar thus eliminating to need for power stations. Although I will still bring one when going out for charging electronics etc when away from the camper.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures This is the way.
BTW, subscribed to your channel, good content.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures thanks, followed back!
Very nice. I have a home built cargo trailer to RV but I use a Big Buddy heater plumbed into the RV's propane lines. I love the dry heat of these heaters though. The refueling all the time is the biggest reason I would hesitate. As well as that irritating clicking from the fuel pump. Apparently you can get a quieter fuel pump for about $50.
I am curious how much heat you will lose through the hose drawing air from inside the RV. And how well everything will work in extreme cold. Too bad there wasn't room inside for the heater.
Once it gets cold (-20 or more) I am going to do a real world test. I'll let you know here.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures Sounds good. I'm curious too about real world fuel consumption. I live on my bush lot in Quebec in the summer and head for southern Arizona/California for the winter. So I never see much below freezing, and never have to worry about indoor condensation from the Big Buddy propane heater. It would be nice to have something that exhaused outdoors though. But the constant refueling looks like a PITA compared to what I have now being plumbed into the propane line of the RV.
Nice vid! Where did you get the quick disconnect plastic flange that you pointed to on the side of your camper?? Looks perfect. I can find everything else on Amazon except that
Right here: deercreekoverlandgear.com/shop/front-vent-kit/
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures Thanks!!!
One thing i was curious about, the temperature rating on those quick connect wall penetrations. I love that direction you went, in fact im gonna copy with a toungue box.
Not sure what they are rated at, But I did test for any issues by running the heater on high for almost an hour when it was about 95 degrees out and zero issues.
I can't seem to find those quick connect bulkhead on Amazon or at the Valterra website. Any help appreciated.
@@CharlesMcNew You can sometimes find them at a local ACE hardware store. That is where I found the twist adapters.
@@CharlesMcNew I contacted valterra and sent them the video link, and they said, " I see our T1020VP bayonet cap and our T1009 bayonet flange." They said working temp is 205, which is prolly close. I wonder what temp it pumps out on high. Anyone know?
Hi, wanted to inquire if you have the links to where you purchased the bulkheads And diesel heater? Also did the diesel heater come with the black enclosure/ case and is it weather proof?
Thank you much.
Here you go: www.amazon.com/HCALORY-5KW-8KW-Luggage-Portable-Bluetooth/dp/B0C379Y3ZT?ref_=ast_sto_dp
Where do you keep your jackery overnight when it's cold?
Check out the 4 minute 35 second mark on the video.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures so for now you just keep it outside?
@@bearlycamping Yup
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures gotcha, I thought that wasn't good for the lithium power station
I am looking to do a similar setup for my trailer. I have the same vents. Where did you find the connectors for the hose?
Local ACE hardware store.
Just a heads up little kerosene will stop diesal from gelin I'm a trucker we use diesal 911 for gelin but I don't think it would be safe for that
Thanks for the tip...sounds like a video topic for sure...😀
I drove logging truck for a while when I first got out of the Marine Corps, but it was in the redwoods of NorCal, so no gel issues there,
Great content!
Thanks for watching.
What is name of the connection that go through the wall with the quick connect? Brand? Where did you get them?
deercreekoverlandgear.com/shop/front-vent-kit/
So im looking to extend my heater ducting.. that looks like a foil ducting for air vents. Ive found a similar product but it says not for use in dryer vents... but it looks exactly like that stuff your using
The ducting I am using was from our local ACE hardware and is specific for dryers and is heat rated.
I don’t understand why you don’t have the entire unit inside with one hole going out for your exhaust. The unit would be way more efficient inside as you would not be losing the heat transfer through the hose going to the inside. It only makes sense !
I actually thought of that, but there just was not enough room, and the heater fan and fuel pump would have been unacceptably load.
How do you keep rain off the electronics and out of the case?
My wife is making me a cover for the heater as we speak, and I mention in the vid I will be installing the power supply inside the camper with waterproof Anderson connections going through the wall, I will be showing the cover when it is complete. Thank you for the comment!!!
12v x 12A = 144W?!
Correct. Had it out camping yesterday and it pulled between 140 and 145 watts during start up and a little less during shutdown. On setting number 3 it pulled about 22-25 watts.
Sorry, Buddy, but you are doing it wrong. Exhaust needs to be at a down angle all the way to the outlet so that condensation doesn't choke out the heater.
Sorry Buddy, but I am not. Go to 9:15 in the video where I address the condensation issue and actually comment on making a semi permanent solution by directing it down thru the pan to drain like it should.
@@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures then maybe you should change your thumbnail..... I did NOT watch as the thumbnail depicts that you DID do it wrong! Kinda like clickbait.
@@garybachelder8306 I comment on videos based on the thumbnail all the time too.
How many watts per hour is the heater using after starting? Would a 210Wh Ecoflow Eiver Mini be enough for 8 hours? Via AC port.
Good video, thanks.
If temperatures are life threatening I would not be using a chinese heater only from experience
Correct, that is why I always have a Mr Buddy with me, along with a CO detector.
Everyone has a different set up, That works well for you, but it won't work for everyone.
And what works for everyone else, doesn't work for me.
One size does not fit all. You just figured this out?
@@Montana_Outdoor_AdventuresIf that's the case, then your vid is misleading click bait.
@@ianbuchanan149 No. Read the video description, I state this is a camper install.
I must have missed it., most important information to me and to most ,
On proper amount of power you briefly mentioned only showing the small kackery but zero details
how l9ng will that small jackery run that heater ?
and won't that jackery freeze up dead solid as lithieam batteries do in freezing weather?
you mener mentioned haveing that jackery on the inside of the camper...
there's no way that heater would produce a good amount of heat in - -40 degreese buy the time it acteueally got in the camper the way you set it up...all exposed...
This video is horrable ...
I wouldn't be following this guy's ways if you don't want to be freezing together in -40 temps.Temps..
Blessings.
Thank you for the comment, I will be testing this set up this winter, that is one of the ideas I had for the video. Watch it again carefully and you will see the answers to your questions.