CHINESE DIESEL HEATER | Full night heater installation guide safe camper van | how to install
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- Опубліковано 17 кві 2023
- RECENTLY DIESEL NIGHT HEATERS HAVE BEEN GETTING BAD PRESS AROUND BEING A DANGEROUS WAY TO HEAT YOUR CAMPER VAN. DIESEL NIGHT HEATERS ARE A GREAT AND PERFECTLY SAFE WAY TO HEAT YOUR CAMPER VAN IF INSTALLED CORRECTLY. IN THIS VIDEO WE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO SAFLEY INSTALL A DIESEL NIGHT HEATER IN YOUR CAMPER VAN.
If you have a camper van and want to enjoy VANLIFE then you’re going to need heat for the colder months. In this video we will show you how to heat your van using a diesel night heater. We will teach you step by step in this video the safest way to install a Chinese night heater in your van.
Chinese night heaters are perfectly safe when installed correctly. A good correct and safe instillation will take a little longer, but it is much better to know your night heater is safely installed in your camper van to enjoy piece of mind and many years of happy camping and VANLIFE.
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When I fitted mine some four years ago I made sure that all the fuel line and pump went under the van. I covered all the fuel line in a conduate and passed it through the cassis/subframe of the vehicle. The pipe coming from the tank passed through a hard plastic pipe and through the floor this allowed any leakage to drop out side the van and not onto the internal van floor. This is just info for others watching, as the last thing you want is deisel inside you vehicle.
That’s an above and beyond install, 👍
Great video man! i've a ready put together heater which was incased which i removed later to find where fuel was leaking. It is installed with jubilees etc inside the van, even without a turret plate (you have reminded me and i'm about to order and reinstall) obviously this is deadly and i'd already be dead if i was ever to fall asleep with it running, possibly even though i've always got my windows open! Thanks mate
AMAZING! This is exactly the step by step video I needed, top work 👍🏼
Thank you and thanks for watching 🙏
My heater is in the box at present it's going in my vivaro this next week or two great vid & thanks
I think the filter is upside down. The flow should enter around the outside of the mesh. Debris collects around the outside rather than in the middle of the basket. Same with domed intake filters on showers.
Awesome video, clear exclamation. Much appreciated. Thanks , it’s quite a tricky number
Good tips and guidance, thanks bud.
Great video and tips. Installing mine tomorrow, but got a few bits done today. Thanks
Thanks for watching happy it helped.
Very clear video wish I had this when I was installing mine. 👍
Thanks Dave.
Very helpful im putting one in the boat, cheers
Good clear instructions there Lee,
Thanks Barry and thanks for watching 🙏
Thanks for making the vid mate. I’m installing mine in a boat but I can see that there’s fundamentally no difference. 👍
except for the drilling of the hole through your hull.😂
There is a massive difference!
If you mount it below deck you will either poison the cabin with exhaust fumes or cripple the heater by routing the exhaust upwards. Idiots and DIY are a deadly combination.
Great video mate, learnt a lot.
Thanks man, and thank for watching 🙏
Nice video! I'll come back when it's time to install. But, id definitely install the fuel pump underneath the floor on the outside, just to mov the ticking sound away. And, as an ventilation consultant, i'd install a ventilation silencer hose just to reduce the noice from the blower 🙂
Great tutorial 👍and I just found the vid about installing the fuel pipe to the plastic tank 👌 thanks mate 🙏 mines going in a boat 🚤
Thanks and thanks for watching 🙏
I installed one..worked perfectly when I fired it up. I left it for a good while. It has never worked again with an E04 code. Replaced the pump, all the lines, flushed the tank. There is no way it will spark up. So, instead of wasting time I bought another…moral of the story? Start it up for five mins once a fortnight regardless of the weather.
I agree another problem I’ve found when leaving them over periods of time is the temp sensor failing.
Just bought one my instructions look like youre😢
Really helpful! Thank you!
Thank you and thanks for watching 🙏
brilliant advise, thank you
Awesome video thank you for the help
No problem thanks for watching 🙏
Just a few constructive points. Always slice hard fuel line with a razor knife not cut with cutters as they crush the pipe and can constrict the inner bore possibly affecting dosing pulses from the piston pump. I think the filter is also the wrong way around.
Tks for the time mate
Very informative. Thank you
Thank you and thanks for watching 🙏
good video mate
Just a bit of information from someone that has travelled a lot in a van. You should consider installing the heater to one side or the other instead of the center of the van, as you have effectively ruined most of the under bed storage by going in the middle and stretching all the hoses and wires to both sides of the van.
Yes I agree 100% the placement for this heater was chosen by the customer to suit their layout.
I bet they end up moving the pump to underneath the van. The ticking gets too much, for me anyway.
Beau travail et surtout très bien expliqué. Une question pourquoi mettre la prise d’air à l’extérieur du véhicule ? Une grille d’entrée d’aire dans le véhicule devrait peut etre suffire ?
Merci
Thanks for info help very informative.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Great video👍
Thanks 🙏
I read the video title as meaning it took a full night to install the heater 😂
Haha with filming and editing it actually took longer 😂
Hi. Thanks for uploading this. Gives me some idea of what to do. I have got a question, though.
What’s the reason for bringing the fuel line down next to the hot exhaust? (I popped mine down next to the inlet) Is it to make sure the fuel doesn’t freeze in winter?
Bravissimo!
Can you Y split off these so you have more then one outlet my vans 7.5 meters and want one at the back and one at the front
Also can pump and filter be installed outside of the van to keep sound down the clicking would piss me right off
What’s interesting is you specifically mentioned mounting the pump at a 45 degree angle but when hooking up the fuel lines, you inadvertently moved it to angle opposite of what you had it.
great video.. i'm going to be fitting one of these into my garage.. I'm thinking of fitting it fairly high up but obviously want the fuel tank at a manageable height.. have you (or any viewers) and idea on what height the fuel pump will be fine at.. I'm thinking it's going to be about 3 feet above the fuel tank.. Thanks
Hello great tutorial. What sikaflex do you use to seal metal part , is it special for high temperatures? Thank you.
really good video, thank you. I do have one question, will the van not smell on the diesel ? Just because you have the tank inside the van I am just converting a van and was planning to tap into the van diesel tank... Your way seems way more straight forward !!
The only time it will smell of diesel is if you spill any.
There are pros and cons for both ways but we prefer this way.
Looking for your video on installing the pick up connection on the 10 liter tank
Thanks for answer yesterday ~ the heaters hot air pipe -i will be stretching it to its maximum will it matter how many bends the pipe has before the cap on the end ?? Thanks
Great video ~ I've not put it in yet ~ got the same heater & I got the same type of mounting plate ~ your vid is a lot more down to earth than the instructions ~ thanks ~ is there a min distance the tank needs to be from the heater (I plan on both the heater & fuel tank to go against my bulkhead ) thanks again
The all in one heaters come with the tank mounted directly on top off the heater so you’ll be fine getting it pretty close.
Thanks for watching and glad I could help.
Thanks for your prompt reply & after viewing your vid I'm in 2 minds on getting a longer exhaust
Thank you so much, best vid on this x
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks
No worries thanks for watching 🙏
Great tips and nicely explained there pal .
Question i have for you is, if I'm going to use a jakery, will i just pop a 12v cigarette lighter plug on the positive and negative leads and of it straight in?? Will that be fine?
Maybe just leave the fuse on?
Cheers.
Hey thanks for watching.
You’d have to check the output on the jackery socket to make sure.
But yes you will need to leave the inline fuse on.
Hi, great video, I didn't notice if you fitted a rubber gasket between heater Base and steel plate.... Mine has one, and I'm fitting it shortly. Any advice?
Yes it’s already installed on the heater, that needs to be in.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Hi Lee, that’s a great video really helpful, many thanks. Just one question: as the turret plate will get hot, have you found any need for something heat proof under it. I have vinyl flooring in my van and a thought occurred that it might not cope with the heat. Have you aver had any issues like that? I suppose I could cut the flooring around the turret plate but I noticed you hadn’t in the video. Cheers👍
Hi Dan, I always used to cut the vinyl floor when the turret was going.
However we removed a heater after 2 years of use and there was no signs of extreme heat damage at all.
The circular section of the turret going through the floor gets fairly hot from the exhaust but, the flat plate section doesn’t get too hot at all.
Aah I see that’s great to know - I’ll stop worrying about that then 😂.
One more thing what kind of Sikaflex do you use to seal as there seems to be loads of different ones. Cheers again for the help 👍
Question any idea where I could buy a longer 1" black tube for the air inlet? My campers stationary and I need a bit longer than what's provided but I cannot seem to find it anywhere.
Camper unseraide has skirtinf around it, so I'm oretty sure leaving that the air intake under there sealed up wouldn't be much use
Does anyone have a link or name of the exact unit and extra parts bought? Thank you. This gives me confidence
Thanks for the video, started doing mine and ended up launching the instructions. I thought the little cut out on the mounting plate was for the pump power cable. It’s all in and sealed up so will have to go with it. Can you see any problems with the pump outside the van? Cheers
I’ve done a more recent video comparing a Chinese heater and an erberspacher and in that video we looked at both the fuel pumps.
The Chinese one doesn’t look great for outdoor use.
It will work but I believe over time it will ingress water and fail.
Have you got a link for this heater mate? Cheers 👍
Nice install,2 things though,that pump is gonna be noisy screwed to the board and that fitting coming out of the fuel tank will leak eventually,you should never have the feed coming out the bottom inside a vehicle IMO.
Great vid there, gives me a head start , mines arriving Sunday 🚐
Thanks man and thanks for watching 🙏
Great video. Is there any reason why the fuel could not be Tee'd from the fuel line and drawn from the vans diesel tank?
Depending on hat van you have to what way it can be done.
Usually you take it from the return pipe or direct from the tank.
It’s also personal preference, we advise this way for a few reasons.
You can use cheaper fuels like red diesel and kerosene, if you out additives in your tank such as red ex you won’t be able to use your heater until you have used all the fuel in the vans tank.
Also if you run your tank dry in the middle of the night you won’t be able to start your van in the morning.
Just an observation. Wouldn’t it make more sense to route the fuel line by the intake? I.e instead of fitting the mounting plate with the little notch for the fuel line by the exhaust, spin it around 180* and have the notch by the inlet so the fuel line is as far away from the exhaust as possible. Just my 2p
Was exactly my first thought
@@metooid I’m glad someone else is on my wavelength
How much 3 inch ducting is allowable with how many degree bends total? Have a long run througout the car with bends and concered there would be too much back pressure on the heater fan if there are too many bends or ducting is too long.
Is sikaflex heat proof or does it not really get that hot around the turret? Great video thank you
It’s rated much higher than the turret will get.
Thanks for watching 🙏
Greetings, I am very concerned about diesel fumes pervading the cabin. I can see where a vented lid with one way air flow would be good at keeping the fumes out of the van because the fuel removed as the heater is used must be replaced by air. Questions::1) Does the tank have a vent? Have you had any issue with diesel vapors? Thanks!
No way in hell I would install the pump inside the van, it is noisy enough when it is on the outside. I would not want it ticking directly under my bed the whole night.
Insulate your van correctly and you wouldn’t need it running all night? 🤷🏻♂️
Installing a D heater ??????
I thought the video was excellent!!! Dont let anyone tell you SI**. Viewers often forget that you were told by the owner where to install it too. Most of the commenters here don't even have a channel so what they think doesn't matter anyways.
Is that fuel pipe ok like that as I know them plates get very hot ?
I’ve a diesel heater like that, (its now broke) but when it’s running it gives off a horrible plastic smell, i made a turret like yours and I have similar vinyl flooring and I used sealant as well as screwed it down, I’m gonna be buying a new one in a few days is there anything you recommend me doing so that the next one doesn’t smell off plastic when it’s running or is it just a new heater smell that needs to be wore off, I’m aware of the rubber gaskets some heaters come with but I’m unsure which mine is
Thankyou
Great video!
The gasket on the bottom should be silicone. Some send rubber ones out unfortunately and this can be something that will cause a burning plastic smell.
@@simplycampervanconversions okay I’ll make sure the next one is silicone, also which sikaflex did you use? Was it the heat resistant one?
@@abbeybarkley6853 all sikaflex states it’s resistant to extreme temperatures so specific heat resistant sikaflex isn’t necessary.
I've fitted my heater today and tried both ways to try and start the priming but the pump ain't kicking in , my controller looks the same unit as yours and I have managed to switch the heater on to ignition but still no pump
Hi Lee. Would you please clarify whether when mounted at 45 degrees the lower end of the pump has the feed from the tank or the feed to the heater attached? The video shows the heater feed lower initially but then later the tank feed is lower. Many thanks.
Hi, the lower end aims towards the heater.
The end of the fuel pump with the connector must be higher than the other end . Also you can use regular fuel line from the tank to the filter and then to the pump but you need to use the white hard nylon fuel line from the pump to the heater. Please never use the green PVC line, it's not made for fuel.
How are the clips called to hold the exhaust?
good video, but i would never ever install the diesel tubes n pump inside the car. my danger awarness-sense would never allow me that
Just curious if this could be mounted to the roof upside down???? only reason I ask is I have no floor space due to equipment in the van but need to get heat in there to stop chemicals and water pipes freezing up.
Unfortunately not, they can be mounted flat or on their side, but not upside down.
Hi Lee, thanks for the video! Would a car battery be able to run one of these over night? Or about 7 hours ish
Would do the start up with the car running as I know that uses lots of electricity
I wouldn’t like to risk it.
A car battery is built for short bursts of energy at high amps, they don’t work very well over lengths of time.
@@simplycampervanconversionsthanks for the reply! So I’d have to get a separate battery to run it too? Any recommendations for a cheap suitable battery?
Apologies for hijacking the comments, but I saw this, and though I'd through in my 2p.
These use little to no power, so if you don't have a leisure battery, then don't panic.
12v electricity supply is required of course to power the fuel pump, little control panel, and to heat the glow plug. Once it's up and running, it's burning diesel on its own steam. Of course, the panel and pump are still using 12v, but it's a miniscule amount.
I fitted one of these directly to the main/only battery in my Land Rover discovery 2 and used to leave it on overnight with no issues.
The tiny amount of electricity you do use is restored once you start the engine and get the alternator going and doesn't harm your vehicle battery at all.
If you were running multiple appliances, lights, chargers ect and draining/charging alot then yes, absolutely go and buy a decent deep cycle leisure battery, however if the heater is the only additional load then I personally wouldn't bother
To summarise...
1- Have a good, strong battery in the first place.
2- Install correctly, as shown by this man's video.
3- Get toasty! 🔥
Hope this helps!
J
Great video, nice and clear instructions.
It's good to see a decent one for a change!
Joe
@@jordanmalarky9477ah ok! Thanks for the feedback! I think my cars main battery is on the way out so will replace that and give it a go 🤞🏼
Where do you get fresh air intake into the van when sleeping? Do you crack the window? Or does the diesel heatsr provide fresh air from the outside?
We have window vents from Omit Vans it’s always good to have good airflow in the van, event when not using the heater.
Tho, the factory spec would be to it under van protected by tray and duct hot air into van.
during my research I wondered about the existence of an 8KW because they all seem identical to the 5KW... do you have more information
As far as I’m aware they’re just a myth lol.
I’ve never seen one juts 5/8 kw which are 5kw and 8kw which are also 5kw.
hi, just wondering, could i add a few heaters into one system, im looking at heating 16x14 foot shed.
We have tried running two heaters from one control panel and failed unfortunately.
If the shed is well insulated you’ll be surprised the difference one will make.
Hi, just ordered my diesel heater. Looking for advice on the turret, is it required or can I just sit it on the heat plate it comes with? I currently have a 40mm flooring which is insulation, plywood and vinyl flooring. Thanks in advance.
I would strongly recommend the turret to keep the hot exhaust away from your wood and insulation in the floor.
Thanks for watching 🙏
@@simplycampervanconversions much appreciated
Those turrets are naff, there's a guy in Scotland that builds the best ones.
Isn't it illegal to store fuel in a vehicle! HSE states it must be in the boot of a car in an approved container & not in living quarters of a vehicle! Im i wrong here?
I heard there is a 2 kilowatt and 5 kilowatt model. Does the smaller 2 kilowatt draw less electricity? Does this mean an auxiliary battery is required regardless of model?
You’ll need an auxiliary battery regardless, I’d never run it direct from the vehicle battery just in case you make it flat over night and can’t drive the following morning.
Is it possible to run the heater with just fan mode, without any heat going through? I wanna know if I could also use it in my ordinary ventilation in the summer.
It isn’t however I am working on a work around to make it possible.
Wether it works or not remains to be seen.
W/o trying, I would say NO. It's too little a fan. I see folks put in bigger fans in the roof, sometimes 2, one to push air in and one to exhaust it, but they are larger, somewhere in the range of 6 to 10 inches. I would want those fans for summer.
I actually already have a maxxfan for exhaust and a small intake of air. I just need a little more push actually, so a small fan like in The heater would probably complete do it for me at least
Great tutorial! The big question I'm left with after watching this is, what was that fuel tank standpipe for that comes with these kits? And why didn't you use it in this build?
Fuel tank usually comes with the kits
I have just bought this model Does the heater stil draw current when in stanby? Display does never shut down fully. Stays dimmed. I dont want it to drain my batterys when i leave my boat.
Hi, yes the display will always stay on and draw a small amount of current.
You can put it on a switch, but be carful it never gets turned off accidentally while the heater is running as it needs to go through a cool down cycle and if it turns off without this it will damage the heater.
Seems like an awful lot of extra work by finding the place to drill your hole from underneath and then doing a bunch of measuring to drill down to see if you're in the right spot. When you see your spot under the van, drill a pilot hole from the bottom into the top and you will know exactly where your hole needs to be then you can drill down with the 5-inch hole cutter
Put my live to 12v fuse panel now when i turn it on it makes my led light flicker?
Do you have a volt meter?
What is it reading.
Sounds like you have low power maybe.
looking for video showing attaching fuel line to tank
The tank he fitted looks different to the one he shows at the start of the video
Fuel line to close to exhaust plate should go other way around
Since you only need a air intake and exhaust, do you really need a 127 mm hole ?
Good question.
So you can just drill a hole for the two small items, however that leaves your very hot exhaust against your wooden floor and insulation etc.
This is why we use a turret, it also gives you a better seal around the heater to ensure no gasses are getting back in.
Hi lee. What make of chinese diesel heaters do you recommend. Great informative vid 👍🏻
Honestly! They’re all the same.
However I have a theory and it can’t be right but I believe it, if it’s got carbon fibre on it then its useless! 😂
we shall see, for mine has the carbon fiber ! (and the housing is broken, yet it's the first time I opened the box)....ok...stay tuned... @@simplycampervanconversions
@@DanTheManIOM I Hope im wrong 🙏
@simplycampervanconversions we got the carbon 😢
@@DanTheManIOM I also got carbon fibre and also have a loose/broken housing
What is the drain like on the battery? If it is hooked up to your van's main battery and the van is off, will i wake up to a dead battery?
A starter battery is designed for short bursts of power at high amps where as a leisure battery is designed for a low draw Ofer long periods of time.
If it lasted the night which it probably wouldn’t, it would kill your battery very quickly and you’d need to replace it.
@@simplycampervanconversions so just use a portable battery I guess and charge it during the day?
@@bmstyle just a leisure battery and a split charge relay to charge it while driving would be enough and probably the cheapest option.
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I can Not believe we’re you fitted that heater. 😮
It was fitted exactly where the customer asked to fit in their build.
Since the suppliers will say anything to get a sale, how do I know if my CDH is 2kW or 5kW ?
Check the dimensions.
5kw 38.5x13.5x18cm
2kw 34x11.5x11.5cm
Can you explain what the point was for the 5 inch pipe modification?
Yes, it’s to keep heat away from your wooden floor and insulation and also to provide a better seal to stop exhaust gasses coming in.
@@simplycampervanconversions appreciate it!
Hi is it ok to run the fuel line 14 ft in length from van thank to rear of van thank you
Yes that’s fine, the only thing is the pump is better and pushing fuel and not pulling it, so have the pump as close to the tank as possible.
@@simplycampervanconversions thank you 😘
Hi is it ok to extend the wiring to the fuel pump from the heater ? Thank you
@@raytandy8142 yes no problem at all, just be wary of voltage drop, don’t extend with wire any thinner than what’s used.
@@simplycampervanconversions thanks again great advise 😄
I’m thinking of locating mine under the passenger seat,do you see any issues with this?
Depends what vehicle.
Take a look under the van and see what’s lurking there.
🤦♂️ vivaro,seems to be nothing in the way.
Whats needed to extend the negative and positive wire ?
Just automotive flex wire, the thickness depends on the distance you would like to extend.
@@simplycampervanconversions CABLE WIRE AUTOMOTIVE Red 6.0mm² (53 Amp) is what I have so this should do it 🤔
@@james1466 it depends how far you are going but I’d say 6mm is overkill.
3 or 4mm would be ample.
I can’t be sure on that without knowing the distance though, as voltage drops over distance.
why not get a tank you can put a stand pipe in and avoid potential future fuel leaks
The tanks that take the stand pipes are much larger and wouldn’t have fitted.
However if fitted correctly you should have no issues.
@@simplycampervanconversions i installed a standpipe in a fuel tank that came with one i had that had the cap in the centre. it was a little tricky but it worked well once installed
Shouldn't the pump be installed externally?
Either is fine and externally is actually worse for the pump due to weather damage.
No you neede to paint the metal of the car where you drill the hole. I miss That part. Otherwise you car is going to be rust. For the rest good video.
Normally speaking I would say yes but it’s being sealed all the way round with sika so oxygen and water can’t get to it.
No oxygen and water means no rust.
It’s not a ‘night’ heater; it can be used at any time.
For a honda civic is a 2 kw heater enough?
More than enough a car would be warm with body heat and a good sleeping bag lol.
@@simplycampervanconversions Don't have experience, I'm in canada. Doubt body heat will be enough in -15 celcius.
@@raczyk haha ye maybe not I’d go with the heater 😂
I installed my heater outside under the van, only the heat output tube enters the van through the floor
What about the hot air input at the rear of the heater?
If that’s also open under your van then your exhaust could be feeding gas in.
I would also pipe that into the van so it’s not giving you carbon monoxide poisoning and also it’s better for heating up as you’re not always heating cold air from outside.
@simplycampervanconversions my deisel heater is only ever on when I'm stationary, the heater off the water cooling system from the subaru engine works 🙂 👍
@@PeterPanoramics i mean your diesel heater exhaust.
You have the exhaust going out under the van where the cabin air intake is pulling air in and sending it into the van.
@@simplycampervanconversions ah OK good point I'll extended the exhaust pipe to back end by engine exhaust
Dude you don’t need to drill a 5 inch hole I’ve installed 2 in my trailer /rv ..
I still prefer webasto.
Why would you mount a heater right in the middle of the floor like that? WTF? Why not put it long the wall and run all those wires and lines out of the way?
Because that’s where the customer wanted it to suit their layout.
@@simplycampervanconversions Iunderstand. It just looked like it was mounted in the wrong place and wasn't clear why it was there . Thanks for clearing that up.
Now to go drill a hole.
The pump should be outside the van! And, the pump is upside down..angle is wrong...😮
Sorry 🙄🙄
Why should the pump be outside the van?
Pump is installed to manufacture instructions, I’m guessing you know better than them?
What a ball ache of a job
Yes to do it right there is a lot of steps.
Just had one of these put in our cabin they drink diesel like fuck used a tenners worth of diesel after being on for about 8 hour 🙈