I hear you guys loud and clear about the reading of the screens. Noted for next time and I appreciate you guys being nice about it. I only added the screens bc as I was finishing up editing I realized I had more to say but with my program I edit the audio first and then add scenes on top and once the 30 minutes of audio is edited and broken down if I add ANY new audio afterwards it practically makes me start over. Here’s hoping for getting a better editing program soon
My favorite Jess-scene is the "Whyy did you drooop out ouf YAAALe?!" because it was the necessary reality check that Rory needed and no one faced her with
The reason Jess is able to get his life together is Luke, specifically the plotline in season 4 when Luke makes Jess come to his mother's wedding, and spends three episodes offering him a combination of accountability, encouragmement to think of his impact on others, a dorky self-help book and unconditional love and acceptance. Lorelai occasionally attempts to impose accountability with Rory, but is always undercut by her parents (both after sleeping with Dean and after dropping out of Yale, the grandparents intervene take her away from the conseqences of her actions.) This is why Jess is the only person who can offer Rory what Luke gave him: "Whyyy did you drooop out of YAAAALE!" ... and then later hey I'm not going to be the person you cheat on Logan with. Each time it's accountability mixed with unconditional love. (This happens later in the revival too.) Jess may not be Rory's best boyfriend, but he is one of her true friends.
Totally! It´s my favorite too because Jess understood her and it´s what she needs to listen to go back to Yale. I love that moment. I also love when she says: "You wrote a book. You sat down and wrote a book".
@@jsmith8904 i don't think she thougth that in that moment she was just hurt and wasn't thinking straight, this actually happened to me i was the academic gifted child who drop out of college, the difference is i did it because i got ill, and then i had deppression, but at that time i was feeling so bad i would have done anything like hurting myself, she stole a yatch because she wanted to get out of the world she wanted to stop being her.
I feel like Rory started spiraling when she took on too many classes which lead to her failing and looking for comfort in a familiar place like Dean. She tried to go back to the last time she felt successful and on track and that was when she was in high school, with her ‘perfect’ boyfriend who worshipped her. I feel like Yale opened her eyes to the fact that she wasn’t extraordinarily gifted beyond compare like she had been told and instead of accepting that and adjusting she ran from it.
In my opinion Rory's "downfall" began not when she dropped out of Yale, it was when she decided to *go* to Yale. I know that Harvard didn't allow them to film but i think it would have been way better if she actually would have went to Harvard. The way in the show she just changed her mind that quickly is honestly kind of sad and how much she is influenced by her grandparents. But maybe that's exactly the point of the show, to see a relatble character with big opportunities just for them to fail and to look right into the eye of the harsh reality
I raise you on that. I think the first cracks can be actually seen in the very first episode - she meets a cute boy and she is immediately ready to give up Chilton?
Her changing her mind about harvard was a betrayal of everything she and her mother had worked for. I get that its her life… but they had worked towards that goal for years- of course lorelai wanted that for rory from birth.
A really interesting video, but I've noticed that, in a lot of these videos analyzing Rory's privileged and coddled life (which is a definite fact, not trying to deny that), people tend to really overlook the first 16 years of her life and how that might affect her privilege-blindness. The show starts when she's 16 and the Gilmores enter her life, but it's made very clear often enough that, for the first years of her life, she was the child of a teen mother, living in a potting shed behind a hotel, while her mother worked as a teen maid for said hotel (not really gonna even comment on the child labor law violations involved with that). It's played for quirkiness and fondness in the show, but that is single-parent *poverty.* We're told often enough that her father is utterly absent and doesn't fulfill his obligations, both financially and parentally, regarding Rory. All of these things (poverty, familial and financial instability, borderline-if-not-outright homelessness) absolutely take a toll on children, especially during those formative early years. We, as an audience, see Rory/Lorelai later in life, when Lorelai is older, more mature (although still immature when it comes to relationships) and more settled. She has risen through the ranks to settle into a more comfortable income and eventual home-ownership. We are introduced to them as "comfortable" and eventually, with the introduction of Emily and Richard, and particularly in Rory's case, "cushioned". I can totally see how a character like Rory can look back on her early years and think "No, I'm not privileged! I'm the child of a teen mom! We grew up in a shed and lived off of cast-offs and charity", completely blind to the fact that she can no longer claim that disadvantage anymore. If anything, I can see why it would make Rory cling to the comfort and shelter she perceived in Emily and Richard. Not trying to defend Rory (I've been thoroughly over her character since Season 6, honestly) but I think this is a big oversight in these debates about Rory and her privilege that I've never really seen discussed in great depth in the videos I've come across. Rory is discussed as this middle-class girl thrust into an upper-class world and how it ruined her. And that's fair. But we also really forget that she did, in fact, grow up poor and homeless in her early years and all of the ways THAT lifestyle might have affected her in the long-term. Great video! Love the insight! Gonna check out your others!
I actually know someone like this. She's so set in her mind with herself as poor from the past she hasnt been able to internalize that her situation is different now.
@@krose6451 yes, i think it is a realistic 'scarcity mindset' thing, if you have grown up with a traumatic loss, you can't accept internally that the hole may be filled now, instead people psychologically 'store-cupboard' in case it all gets taken away tomorrow again. So, in a way, Rory has been brought up in the shadow of Lorelai's lost life, and she wants as much of it as she can get, bc tomorrow it might all be gone.
1. Have you ever heard of the lottery? Do you know what most lottery winners do once they hit it big? It doesn't matter what most of their life experience was, they'll become a completely different person once they're super rich and they'll splurge their wealth and power until their broke. 2. Everything before the age of 10 is irrelevant. Everything between age 10 and 13 is semi-irrelevant. Since she wasn't being tortured by her mother at a young age, those memories even if they were non-privileged don't weigh much on her personality because she's not traumatized from abuse or living on the street, so it's all water under the bridge that's irrelevant to how she turns out as an adult. Only the lived experience of her teens has any significance and that was a very short period before she got spoiled.
i agree w/ you, but my nick-picking ass wants to point out that Lorelai was 18 when working at the hotel (she god pregnant at 16, had rory, and waited a year before running away.) a year + 40 weeks, she was more than likely 18 when she ran away--At least that's if memory serves (going off that flashback episode where sherry has her baby)
I don't disagree that Rory's environment definitely influenced her behavior. It is interesting you bring up therapy though because she actually does go to therapy after she returns to Yale. She does start trying to be independent by living with Paris and taking the initiative to get a job at a different newspaper along with catching up to graduate at the same time as Paris. She even turns down offers from her dad and Logan to live in a nicer place. If I were to change the revival, it would be to have her live with Paris again because while she cares for Rory, she doesn't coddle her. She pushes her to be better, and Rory does the same for her. They don't lie to each other unlike every other person in the show
She goes to therapy as far as we know once. The scene was also portrayed in a very comical way with no real depth or self reflection. It would have way more interesting to have seen Rory continue therapy but really have some accountability. It would have been refreshing in the revival for her to have maybe gone to therapy with Loralei and Emily bc she was one who needed it just as much if not more. Maybe then we could have had a breakthrough as to how she got to where she was. It wouldn’t have fixed things but man, it would have been a start.
I would have liked for Rory to have the epiphany that she is allowed to be a rich housewife and she could use that power to help others. She would be like on therapy (I agree she needs it) and be like omg! I should marry Logan! And for Jess to find someone better for him who he loves even more than Rory. The way she treated Jess was 🤯 and he deserved better.
OK, here's the thing about Rory, she was sheltered her entire life and unlike her mother never had to practice any real world responsibilities. Yes she's well read but literary knowledge doesn't necessarily translate to any skills other than expanding intellect or possibly landing her a career in writing or publishing or teaching, which she never really pursued (possibly cuz she burned herself out at Chitlin). Plus, she only ever read highly dramatic works of fiction, which is maybe why she's been prone to making dramatic, rash decisions like the whole cheating with Dean saga and dropping out of Harvard. ALSO I feel like she only ever wanted to go to an Ivy League for the prestige. She never had a real goal other than getting in. All of her academic success seemed only to serve her Harvard dream, which is fine enough but of course when she gets there she has this huge identity crisis because her entire identity up until that point was to be smart in order to get into Harvard. She's hanging onto this thread of an identity as a writer/journalist and then the Mitcham situation happens and it completely destroys her. She's left with no personality and no goals which plummets her into a crisis she never really recovered from. It's honestly tragic and super common. Also if she weren't the main character there's no way she'd be valedictorian over Paris I mean come on.
True... but let’s remember Paris called it that, statistically, salutatorians do better in life than valedictorians. And that’s exactly what happened in the show.
I'm glad you mentioned how similar Rory and Jess are. I have been thinking for a while now that it really seems like Rory sees a lot of herself in Jess when they first meet, and views him and his journey as mirroring her own in a lot of ways, and I don't think that perception of herself in relation to him fully updates until she reconnects with him while living with E&R. I think it's only then that she becomes aware of how unlike him she's become, of how much Jess has grown in ways that are authentic to the person she knew then while she's strayed far away from that, and of how skewed her perception of herself and her own privilege has become. I really do wonder if anyone else could've made her see that so effectively.
One thing I noticed in my recent rewatch of the series is whenever Rory does something wrong and 'takes accountability,' she repremand's herself so much and is so hard on herself that the person who she hurt (Like when she missed Lorelei's graduation to go to NY to see Jess) starts to feel bad because she feels so terrible and feels the need to be hard on herself. She inadvertently guilts people into being hurt by her bad decisions, which I think she could have learned from watching Lorelei feud with her mother.
yup, in a way it feels like she is suddenly very isolated from the group and a 'bad person', it is interesting to think where that comes from. I wonder if it is bc she hasn't had access to enough of a male role model - I know she had Luke up to a point, but he isn't her 'dad' as a young girl - so she hasn't experienced a different kind of discipline. Lorelai is very protective and loving of Rory, but I wonder if she tended to plead with her more than discipline her i.e. I need you to be good or we won't be able to eat, and she views her as a best friend rather than a daughter, which is understandable when she had her so young.
I think a few things would have made Rory’s story land better for me. If she had gotten pregnant just after college and was raising her child as a single mother in her thirties, struggling with a career that had to be put on indefinite hold, and a disappointed family the way lorelai did (if asp was so married to Rory mirroring lorelai), and Rory admitting that maybe she did need serious therapy. Rory is my age, and the revival was around the time I realized that I needed more professional help than I was getting. They gave that story to lorelai, but I think it would have been more interesting and more generationally accurate for a millennial.
@Spicy Bees oh yeah I know. It's why I'm so nervous for the last season of Mrs. Maisel. Asp has already proven she's willing to sacrifice narrative for what she wants. 😅
@@happytofu5 I think it would have made more sense for the revival to take place about 3 years later. But about 10 years is just too much for what they did.
I agree with this, and as others have pointed out, the show’s creator, Amy Sherman Palladino, mentioned the revival is generally how they were planning to end the original show - I assume that means Rory getting pregnant in her early 20s, not long after college. If we followed that plot, I believe the revival showing Rory in her 30s could have been all about Rory reconnecting with her literary goals after years of feeling burned out by motherhood and perhaps a more monotonous job (like working at a local newspaper!)
You make a lot of wonderful points. At the same time, I can't help but feeling that Rory always must have had so much more capacity for developing sheer coldness than Lorelai ever imagined, or indeed knew to be actively guarding against her developing. And for me, the biggest moments aren't even any boyfriend stuff, at least not more than tangentially. Like so many other viewers, despite not having been born into DAR-WASPy New England Elite wealth privilege, Rory was initially extremely relatable to me. In some of the obvious ways she was relatable to probably a million other girls, but also, I actually did have a grandparent relationship where I got some stuff given to me pretty lavishly even while there were some pretty unhealthy dynamics going on with my her and my mother (her mother-in-law in this case). I definitely always saw the problems--and as you've shown, the manipulations--in Richard and Emily's place in Lorelei and Rory's lives. At the same time...I just cannot wrap my head around Rory just sending Logan's buddies to get her stuff like it's some joke rather than showing up to tell them in person she's going back to Yale. It's not that they deserve better as like, universal karma, it's that I can't understand how she herself didn't feel any degree of guilt not paying them any kind of courtesy of, thank you for everything but I'm ready to go back to school now, when they not only bankrolled her life and took her on another trip to Europe, but literally kept her life from being destroyed after she blithely stole a yacht (tbh this seems to be the permanent point-of-no-return with me and Rory). Rory's coldness is also imo evident to me in her and Paris's relationship, which, let me make it clear, I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to be friends with Paris. But the last we see of them in the series, Rory 's body language is kinda acting like Paris is a weirdo for hugging her at graduation. This is after moments like other students at the Yale paper assuming Paris is Rory's best friend and Rory correcting them on that even though she didn't actually have more of a best friend at Yale. Then fast forward to the revival and we know through dialogue that although Paris is married (divorced?) with two kids she has literally given Rory a key to her home in New York (I think) that Rory uses to stay whenever she wants. Rory just increasingly comes off like such a cold person who's very comfortable being a user with zero guilt about using people she doesn't even like/would be very happy to ditch.
I think that they should’ve focused more on Rory falling into a perfectionist mindset instead of her sleeping with Dean. Her sleeping with Dean was just a weird conflict that ultimately went nowhere and did nothing but harm her character development. If they wanted to show Rory struggling or having a curveball to offset her “Mary sue” ness, they should’ve focused on the fact that she felt she couldn’t fail. They should’ve shown her overworking herself and struggling to keep up with her studies and NOT succeeding, failing a test because she didn’t have enough time to properly study or being burnt out because of all the work she had to do. They should’ve showed how she feared disappointing those who built her up.
The people who hate on Rory are missing the point-the entire show is an indictment of generational wealth and class differences, and Rory is intended to demonstrate how those forces change people. I absolutely agree that environment makes a big difference, and that’s why Rory is a good person at the start and changes as they go. they often overlook the impact of generational wealth in the show for some reasons There’s a reason the story starts with the grandparents and Chilton being introduced as elements in the girls’ lives. Every time Rory turns around, Emily and Richard are creating loopholes and helping her evade consequences for her behavior and promoting an idea that she’s entitled to a higher class simply due to birth or money. I’m not exempting her from the choices she makes, but putting this on Lorelei is baloney. She doesn’t believe she’s better than everyone at the beginning, when Lorelei and everyone has been supportive since she was born. That’s always been there, and Lorelei does hold her pretty accountable when things get tough-more than once, she confronts Rory on how she’s treating others and she plays the mom card when Rory forces her to. The problem starts when the consequences for her failures and choices stop costing her and the grandparents allow her a route to escape consequences. The whole show wants to demonstrate that when your world allows you to be selfish and avoid consequences and allow you to obtain things without putting in hard work, you’ll begin to think that you’re really entitled to things. Not to mention that her hard work doesn’t help her get the internship with mitchum, but she’s instead foiled by class differences (something Logan later points out does when he disapproves of that piece she writes, that she doesn’t want to acknowledge that she belongs to an entitled class-once again, there’s a focus on her social class that implies that class seems to matter more than her actual work). The revival is fantastic thematic storytelling-some people just want characters to SAY things that are clear in the subtext. Rory’s downfall IS the accountability that the show is delivering, if you pay attention. The revival shows the actual consequences of class and money enabling you to avoid everything. I love that Rory’s problem the whole show is that she entirely loses her ability to work for things she wants instead of resting on generational wealth, and at the end of the show, she’s at exactly the same place Lorelai is at the start of the show: being forced to step up and return to her roots in Lorelai’s initial spot as a single mother, which emphasized the idea that that is what will finally force her to change, because she IS like Lorelai, and having Rory was what made Lorelai into a good person. It’s a subtle way to show that doing things the hard way has merit, even in a flawed system of social class and money. I hate the way people talk about Rory and Lorelai about whether they’re likeable or not because Rory and Lorelai don’t exist so we’ll like them-they exist to create a message, and I’ll always love Rory for that if nothing else. I was the same age as her when the show aired and I went from trying to mimic her to trying to do the opposite of her and I thought that was proof of a very well-done character arc that taught me something about taking the easy way out. What a lot of people miss about Rory is that you’re not supposed to like her-that she becomes so difficult to respect is THE WHOLE POINT. Wealth and class change you, and not for the better. Edited to add-excellent video :)
Rory's personality "change" should be blamed on her alone. For a counter-example, there are plenty of wealthy and well known people in hollywood that are still mentally down to earth
even though i sometimes hate rory’s decisions, i can’t help but also like her and smile when she’s onscreen and i think it’s because she seems like such a real person because of her flaws
I’ve thought a lot about where the series should go after the revival 😅 so I heard the show designer said Rory had to reach rock bottom to be like her mother which is why they were so awful to her in the revival. Therefore I can conclude that like Lorelei, they want her to go on an upward path now. I envision Rory and Lane starting a school for the arts in Stars Hollow to help the next generation of kids reach their goals without needing the privilege of rich grandparents to do it. I think it would be very similar to how Lorelei and Suki started their own inn. I also think Rory being a mom would take some of the focus off herself and would result in her being less selfish.
I feel like when talking about Rory and college, it’s also worth mentioning that in choosing the most “elite” i.e. brand name school, she maybe did not get the best educational experience. A lot of people at unis like Yale and Harvard are there because of a legacy, be it theirs or the school’s - they want the degree with a shiny name even if they aren’t necessarily learning from it. Massive universities are not always great for getting real experience, because you spend more time listening than anything else. What’s more, because Rory had the Gilmore name and wealth to rely on, I feel she wasn’t really pushing herself once she got her college acceptance letters. She stopped growing after she was done with Chilton. Rory’s first real job, and accordingly the first real world criticism she faced, was with Mitchum. In my humble opinion, Rory would have been better off at a small college with small classes, in a truly academic setting. It seems to me that Yale did not really change from Chilton in education or environment, and so Rory became stunted at a time where she was supposed to grow.
Rory outgrew journalism path in college but the tv writers didn’t pivot her, that’s why everything in late college and revival see Rory just floundering. A perfect example of this is when Paris is waiting on her acceptance to law school and medical school. She had shit planned and was willing to through everything at the wall and hustle. Rory simply wanted to twiddle her thumbs and wait for her golden opportunities to find her, which they did(thanks writers for unrealistic expectations) but they rang so false. Rory is a writer not a journalist. And the longer she clinged to that childhood career the worse she got overall. She also never ever ever learned or grew from her mistakes. We like to watch flawed characters but don’t like to watch dumb choices being made over and over and the character being shocked by the outcome.
It occured to me randomly that there is one change they could have made in the revival that would have made all the difference for me. If they had made the Stars Hollow Gazette a real job, either because it had a small modest salary or because Rory took the rest of her trust fund/inheritance and used it to turn the newspaper around. I think it doesn't make her a bad person or a bad journalist to be unable to make a real living in the current media enviornment. Lots of people can't. But if that piece of the story was turned into Rory giving up the big Christiane Amanpour dream and realizing that you could do something worthwhile with your education (and/or money) by reviving your home town paper - that would have changed the ending a lot. Instead they made it a sad little joke of a volunteer job and said hey, instead of coming back home to serve your community you're going to write a book using Lorelei's story against her will and then emotionally blackmail her into consenting - yuck. I mean you could have the book still in the revival, you could even have the whole messed up thing with Logan, but I'd have loved a story where we see her hit bottom and realize, like a Frank Capra movie, I love this town I grew up in, I can do something that would be in service to it. It would have been large and deep instead of entitled and shallow.
I honestly thought that was the direction they were going to go and was disappointed when it turned into a joke. I think my biggest gripe with AYITL is that the original writer wanted to tell the ending she envisioned so much that they didn’t take into account that Rory was 30 and that her story line seemed to have been something that should have happened right after college when she was first entering the “real world” versus when she was already a journalist for 9 years. I feel like it would be different if she was like this isn’t the life I want now I need to figure out a different path instead of being this floundering person. Also her being pregnant at the end didn’t have the same effect as it would have had at the end of the original series.
I’m studying TV writing. Of course, the pilot sets up the arc and themes for the show. What happens? Lorelei can’t solve a problem due to tons of $$$, so she breaks her own rules and goes to her parents. Emily uses Lorelei’s need for $$ to emotionally extort her for time. As pointed out in the video, Lorelei sees money as buying opportunity, and Emily eyes it as power. So spot on. If power corrupts and money is certainly a form of power, then the argument can be made that the entire show is about money corrupting Rory. If she had been a scholarship kid at Harvard, rather than a legacy at Yale, she would have had to BRING IT when she was challenged. Fill disclosure, I went to an Ivy later in life and it was such a shock. Not only did a lot of the kids have rich parents,but their ignorance of how others lived was incredible. People wrote things online about me “thinking she’s poor.” I’m not sure where that came from, except that there was pressure to go out all the time or maybe I expressed concern about being able to graduate, etc. Not everyone’s going to Paris for Spring Break. Heck, I was grateful I could work 40 hours and get some extra money for the rest of the semester. My friend was organizing a fundraiser and someone on the committee suggested she get a former POTUS to speak. My friend, from the hood, scoffed. How would she even get in touch with him? The girl said, “I can have my dad call him.” Like, NBD. Talk about A Different World! Rory goes from a small town girl, where she had moral support, to a privileged girl whose grandfather could make a call or write a check to solve any problem she had *cough* created.
You mentioned something important... It would be impossible to graduate at the same time of her friends , she didn't even took no clases on summer or something like that. Also my fav scene with Jess is on the kiss when she said 'can you imagine if braces were involved in this interaction?' and he answer 'will be a bloodbath'
I think that you are correct that Rory was influenced by R&E and seeing her mother spar with them. I also think that her dropping out of Yale was her turning point. It would have been amazing if she dropped out and found an inner passion and pursued it and somehow made a life for herself beyond Yale. Instead the writers chose the narrative that she had to get back to Yale. Meanwhile Logan was a totally terrible boyfriend during that time. He never pushed her to be better. It would have made more sense for her to have ended up with Jess because they could have inspired eachother to find that path and be creative together. He becomes a writer and makes an actual name for himself without a college degree. He goes down the path of hard work and perseverance. Wish I saw more of that in Rory (and honestly wish they showed us more of Jess and his journey. I can’t stand that the writers kept her with Logan and his life of privilege. I actually think that he became more of a cushion for her than R&E were once she was in Yale. I guess to sum up - Rory was never allowed to hit rock bottom and have to pick herself up.
even as just a friend, jess could've been an important influence on her if he became a regular character in the latter seasons. he's someone who reached rock bottom at a worse time and was still able to pick himself up and become better. rory needed someone who wasn't part of the wealthy world and someone who could ground her when she would become too entitled or selfish as well as someone inspiring her. logan is from a world where he's not actually supported by his family so his way of supporting someone is just letting them do whatever they want. some of that is good BUT the issue is that he sees rory's mental breakdowns (like wanting to steal a yacht) and her self-destructive behaviours as fine and not something worth talking about. logan may have grown from their relationship but rory never did and just became worse as the years went on
Heýyyy... I will have to say I agree with you for the most part but I think Lorelai asking Richard and Emily for the loan for Chilton was not a bad idea. Rory was not academically challenged at Stars Hollow High and I think she needed that competition. I think the issue is that Rory seemed to fit into Emily and Richard's world perfectly but she wanted to pretend she didnt. I think Rory just gravitated towards that world more. Lorelai seems to resent the privileged life she grew up with so I think by extention Rory did not want to think she was a part of it for that sake, but I think deep down her character wanted to live a life of privilege. I think Lorelai should've let Rory see that a privileged life has its advantages and the positive side of it as well. That 'rich people' are not all spoiled and a horrible person but some are kind... Lorelai thought that leaving privilege made her better but she was always a good person even though she grew up 'rich'. I am like Logan, I see privilege as a good thing, however I think it should be acknowledged. I think Rory's relationship with Logan has helped her to see that not all that has money, are terrible. I think we tend to have this idea that someone that's privileged whether its beauty standards, money etc, they're nasty which is not true. Sorry its so long... 😅
Yeah thats why I said I understand it I know why she felt it was necessary but I feel like Emily and Richard’s involvement (even at a restricted level) and Rory’s exposure to their lifestyle was a huge part of what went wrong bc she wasn’t like that in season one, yk? And you’re fine I love having these discussions
I think that the writers wanted Rory in this trajectory since the beginning of the show. But you can’t have an audience hating on a child, that’s awful. So they waited for Yale. Hence the Easter Egg they left for us when Rory met the Harvard alum’s daughter who was working several jobs her parents disapproved of.
My questions to you is? If you can rewrite any Gilmore girl season would you? if yes What season would you change? Would you change Rory character if you had the opportunity? If you can any reliving character for a day who would you been?
I would only change the affair with Dean. She would have to face the town and the shame they would heap on her. She would apologize to his wife and her mother. She would have pushed Dean away and grown from the experience.
In the revival, they did not address all the money Rory was supposed to have. Her dad gave her money after his grandfather died and grandma Gilmore had a trust set up for her, and I’m sure she got an inheritance from her father when he died. What happened to all that money? And then the revivable, she was broke. What’s that all about
She must have spent it all on rent and flights to London and wherever else she was. It’s actually quite realistic, I know people who spent all their inheritance on a nice (but not completely over the top) lifestyle, (I assume) thinking it would be okay because it was enough, until they realized they had to sell their house or something other of value. Rory probably never worried too much about it when she spent money because she seemed to have enough for years and was sure she would land a great job eventually…
I find it interesting that like nobody believes Dean or Jess were good enough for rory(besides lorelai with dean) but in the revival they both seem to be doing better than rory- probably because they didn't have the same sense of entitlement as rory. It still bugs the shit out of me that rory and Logan didn't end up together bc I truly believe they were good for each other(before the revival) but by the end they were both shitty people who never seemed to learn from their mistakes, and that's infuriating. Also rory never learns from her mistakes, like she literally has cheated on or with every person she's ever dated. She was taught from a young age that she's the best and grew to really believe it, so when things don't go her way she doesn't know what to do. Idk, the revival really bothered me. It's almost like even though it's been ten years, nothing about her has grown in any capacity and she still acts exactly the same(if not worse) than she did at 22. I'm on team rory sucks, sorry not sorry.
I get that Rory’s been smothered her whole life by the strong, impressive Gilmore women. That she was burdened by their expectations practically from birth and yet will forever be viewed as Emily’s granddaughter/ Lorelai’s daughter by everyone around them, with Emily the queen of high society and Lorelai the unofficial goddess of Stars Hollow. Lane being her only friend made this worse because Lorelai then used this friendship to contrast helicopter mom Mrs. Kim with herself to assert she was the “good” parent and to force their peer rather than parent-daughter relationship. With no real outlet from all this growing up, it makes sense that Rory could only ever become a lesser version of either/both women. However, Revival Rory only makes sense if Rory never left Stars Hollow. But she did, which means she’s experienced separation from the umbrella of support of Stars Hollow and the shared views of its residents. Sure, Gilmore money made traveling cushier, but it also let Rory take a breather away from her family’s suffocating expectations, to be around completely different perspectives and to become a fuller person. So her not doing that and actually becoming a worse version of herself will never ring true to me
Gilmore girls is just a story that eventhough sometimes it seems like we can have it all, we can’t. But someone like rory in real life will actually got somewhere.
Love watching these breakdowns. This is my second time watching this one 😆. If you’d like another Gilmore girl video idea (or an excuse to rewatch) please address Rory’s hair evolution and impressionability. Seasons 1 & 2: I akin Rory’s hair to either that of Lane or Lorelei, and of course she’s a quiet version of Lorelei but I feel there’s a sense of Lane mixed in there. Season 3: though subtle, Rory begins to draw her hair back similar to how Paris always does, and while she’s understandably concerned about getting into Harvard, the stress I believe could also be Paris rubbing off on her. Season 4: she gets her Bob similar to Lindsay around the same time she and Dean marry and the affair happens Season 5: I feel like she’s mimicking her perception of Lorelei. Her hair looks like how Lorelei’s worn it, she makes the moves on Logan after Chris to her the Lorelei story etc. Season 6: I think she’s exuding a younger version of Emily Gilmore, and this would be around the time she’s living in the Gilmore pool house. By season 7 it seems she’s gone full circle but with bangs
Kierra i love your approach to things!! i would love to see you talking about anything spongebob related, the way you view things and the way you explain is wonderful i would love to see your takes on it, whatever it might be
Love the content! My only recommendation would be to have less reading screens, and instead, just read it out loud for the video. Your comments on those pages are awesome, but sometimes I'm listening when I can't look at the screen and I miss out 🙈 Please keep making this content though!
It kinda makes sense to how she turns out since it's realistic. But I think her being pregnant wld finally get her to finally get her shit together and realize she was wrong and needs to atone for the better for her and her kid raising.
Girl i love you but please dont write on your videos if you are not saying out loud what is written 😭😭😭 i love listening your videos while doing my makeup and having to pause to read is awful 😭
So my question is; did ASP know? Did she set out to write an entitled, overly pressured "gifted child" who was doomed to fail? Or, was her trajectory in those seasons kind of by accident? I'm aware that ASP isn't solely responsible for Rory's arc, I'm just using her name for brevity.
ASP was ousted after a few seasons. You can tell because the Gilmore Girls all of a sudden get pimped out wardrobes and a house remodel. ASP also knew from the very start that the original series she had in mind would eventually close out with 3 words said from Rory, to Lorelei: “mom, I’m pregnant”. If ASP was kept on with the original run, it would have been very different. In my opinion, better.
I love your videos :) One request, can you please narrate your notes/additions? I listen to your videos while I work and I need to keep taking breaks to open my phone again to read the additional insights during the video. Again, love your videos! Very insightful and well thought out.
Amy Sherman Palladino openly admitted to not watching Season 7. I often wonder how that might have changed things. I think she might have written Logan and Rory differently. I think an interesting take might have been if they did get married. Rory went off to do her Presidential campaign job after Season 7. Then at some point her and Logan get back together and married. Maybe the security of Logan's money leads her to just freelance and then she starts just supporting his career? Maybe they are heading toward divorce in the revival because they want different things? Logan has reverted to his cheating ways because this Rory is more like his mother than the Rory he fell for.
I relate to the Gilmore girls a lot. All of them. My mom was always trying to be better than her parents- her dad was physically abusive in particular to the kids, and her mom allowed it but was a perfect mom otherwise. I know she loved caring for others and I try to channel that. She was a perfect mom when I was young but she never really knew what she was doing because her mom had an aneurism when she was 5 and was swiftly replaced with a mistress who would lie to her dad about things being my mom's fault so he would be angry with her instead. She didn't know how to be a mom in a functional, sustainable way. Always struggled with her identity as a mom, I think, and as the years have shown, my mom is bipolar. She only decided to share that with us kids recently. I think we all are the gilmore girls like we are all pure madonnas and tainted. I was a perfect kid when I was young. Excellently behaved and on the honor roll. As my mom deteriorated not being medicated, and I was blamed for things that were not my fault or my responsibility- say, doing my mom's housework for her, despite not getting an allowance, which was probably her doing- the whole family was breaking down. My mom was in a psych hospital, she did time in jail, she would sleep until we got home from school and not cook dinner or clean the house. Came home drunk. Crazy thing is none of these things seemed strange until it got really bad. She would just say she was tired, and the charges were at least mostly for weed. Now, about breaking the law when you have kids at home; well, no comment needed. Anyway, one day she outright left in the middle of the night. I was angry. For years. My sister was only 10. I really struggled to step into the motherly role at 12 and so did my dad and I kept everything bottled particularly at school. I felt it was my personal business and I guarded it so fiercely that I struggled to write those papers you wrote about yourself and never asked for leniency from my teachers. I began to be guarded with everything personal at all like that kept the not normal things away. Emotionally, this started a storm in me of turmoil and doing things like deep diving research (not school work) to cope, social withdrawl. My grades dropped and I began to fail and skip class out of overwhelm and I graduated a semester late with summer school. I also had issues sleeping well for years, it would take me hours to try to do my homework and it would just get worse. I also have shaken out to be the least angry child. I have forgiven her. I knew she was struggling but I thought she ought to be trying harder for us. She made us and if she had to crawl through the trenches, she should. We didn't need to be caught up in what she was doing at the time- and we still were, as she had a new bf but still constantly stole from dad, which meant from us, and our college funds, while threatening divorce and taking his assets, like the house we live in. In some sense, I do not think it is her fault but her disease. I could be angry at her disease but what's the point? It keeps her from accepting medication. Still, my mama is trying to be a better mom but my sisters will hardly speak to her and as far as I know, she refuses to take her medication. It's difficult to work up the courage to visit her, and there aren't any presents or visits on special days. My dad has stepped into both pairs of shoes. I try to do what I want in my life and also do right. I know firsthand how hard it is, but I try. I have had a much better relationship with my dad as of late but I have also really clung to my in laws, admittedly, who are in some lights a perfect family- by which I mean loving and caring. I identify with these moms and daughters so much so I don't think I could mother right. This is only helped by the fact I have a genetic disorder and I am an interesting combination of healthy and sickly. I am not having my own children. I have had to be pretty self concerned to survive, I like to tend to myself first. I might be able to do it but I definitely do not want to care for young children, I might adopt older children one day. My heart aches for them and I also want to give them a life they deserve. And the love I suddenly stopped getting.
I believe is exactly what you said, she Laks independence, I have a life very similar to Rory in some aspects, my mom divorced, my grandparents help me to pay my university and postgraduate, we lie a lot between us (just because we are use to it to avoid fights ) or not lies but not saying stuff to avoid arguing, what Im saying is that I like the show because it reminds me of my family but I'm married, have a good carrer and I'm independent even though that my family always supported me financially speaking, but I was a little adult, because my mother is like Lorelai I started to do my own gorceries, go to the bank and even the doctor alone as I said to avoid arguing because the different thing about me is that my mother and I are more like Emily and Lorelai we always use to fight, so yes I believe to make Rory better she needed to go to therapy, I went and now I understand better my family and feel happy with my life
I think Rory should have realized that she didn't really want to be a journalist anymore. She could have had a a life crisis while still attending Yale. She could have meltdowns over not knowing what she wants to do with her life. I personally think that Rory should've gotten her PhD in Literature or something similar and become a professor. She also could write on the side.
I love exploring this idea! Personally I feel like one of the big turning points for Rory starts with her going to Yale over Harvard - plot-wise I get it, and it's interesting to see how her grandparent's influence affects her and her college experience, but I think it definitely kneecapped her development. To me, she didn't even have to go to Harvard instead necessarily - just anywhere other than Yale. There are SO many colleges with amazing journalism programs, and I'd loved to have seen her somewhere where she could really exercise her independence and make messy mistakes and actually learn from them [which is a huge part of what college is for, imo]. Actually - if I was trying to fix two birds with one plot change, I'd have her and Lane wind up as roommates somewhere outside of stars hollow [the way Lane's story develops has always bothered me SO much]. I'd love to see them both come into their own.
I think we also have to remember Rory isn't real and sometimes writers just...mess up a character. A lot of her change happened when a man took over the show, but that aside, Rory wasn't the only character that changed and suffered for either badly created plots or shticks.
exactly, I think there's a difference between a good/well-developed character that is immoral and a poorly written character that is also immoral. Rory's downfall felt pointless, Luke's marriage to Nicole felt pointless, Lorelai's marriage to Christopher felt pointless, Luke having gotten a girl pregnant felt pointless, Emily's breaking up Luke and Lorelai felt pointless, all these mistakes the characters made felt pointless. That's why they're poorly written. If Rory was better written with the same type of downfall then more people would like her. But she wasn't, so we don't.
Mitchum was right she didn't have the right personality for journalism and when she was back at Chilton in the revival talking about her experiences and her music class she lit up and I think that she should have taken Head Master Charleston's helping hand into making her career a teacher while she was writing her book and of course writing it in Richard's Study, that would have been a better outlet for her and she would have at least a decent job and not have her focus on cheating again with Logan and all of that.
Ngl Rory’s pathological cheating makes a lot of sense considering subtle ways that her narcissistic qualities and flawless self-image are fed by different events and her overall treatment in Stars Hollow. Especially with the way infidelity was normalized for her, like when Lorelai encouraged her to lie to Dean about her kiss with Tristan, Lorelai cheating with Chris on Sherry, having no real consequences for cheating on Dean with Jess, learning that her grandparents became a couple while Richard was already dating Pennelyn Lot, and then later learning that he’s been cheating on Emily with Pennelyn, not to mention Paris cheating on Jamie with Asher (both of which happened not long before Rory cheated w Dean, and then started cheating on Dean when she met Logan)! It’ll never not be wild to me that she broke up a marriage only to start emotionally cheating w someone else right after and no one ever said “hey, u might wanna slow down..” This video is so validating like omg someone else saw that shockingly there are a lot of breadcrumbs in the original series that lead to her being a weirdo in the revival!
Thanks for writing that down! While I still don’t think anything if what she did there was okay, I understand it a better now. I was honestly really shocked by how she broke up Dean’s marriage, but I guess I should have seen it coming…
Now that you point it out, there is a lot of cheating! Except I don’t think Richard ever cheated on Emily with Pennylin Lot. They only ever had lunches together (assuming Richard was telling the truth) to catch up. I wouldn’t say that’s cheating, she was just a friend at that point.
Revival season 2: Paul dumps Rory after finding out she’s pregnant. Logan thinks the baby might be his but we eventually find out it’s not and belongs to the Wookie, who she’s unable to track down because it was an anonymous one night stand. Logan’s wife and their parents find out about him and Rory and he’s threatened with the possibility of being kicked out of the company so he finally drops Rory for good. Lorelei and Emily have a real talk and realize that they have coddled Rory and decide to offer emotional support, but she’s cut off financially. Rory, still the entitled girl, blows a couple more job interviews because she thinks it’ll be given to her and earns a bad reputation due to the entitlement. She has to find a job because Lorelei is charging her rent (she has to move back home). She gets a regular smegular job like everyone else and starts to get humbled when she’s fired for not doing good enough work. She doesn’t have the drive or fire that her mom had so she’s just stagnant in life and Luke hires her out of pity and because Lorelei asked. Season wraps up with a high school reunion. Rory is too embarrassed to go to the Chilton reunion, so she goes to the public school reunion that she used to attend in Season 1, thinking that they can’t be doing better than her…But they are. The kids that she thought she was better than are well rounded adults, happy with their lives and relatively successful (think business owners, realtors, teachers, one is a journalist for a paper, etc). The final scene, Rory is working at Luke’s pouring coffee and the camera fades out into an aerial shot of Stars Hollow.
I really wish the revival covered more of the early post-yale scenes. For some reason, I had hoped they would at least flashback to the 'post Obama Campaign first job' time period that probably had her riding high for a bit, especially if she was still financially comfortable. Was she able to find a second job right away? Was she more open to jobs not related to her field? Or even her desired writing genre? I have entirely too many questions. Rory and Lorelai are such fascinating characters for me to look at. In some ways, they mirror my mother and I. But, they also help as a guidepost of maybe things I would do differently with my own child. That's what I find so fascinating about analysis videos. People find something to connect to in the media they enjoy and sometimes that can be a useful thing
Next Revival: Rory saves that dying local paper with a huge journalistic piece about a nearby plant/business being corrupt and harming Stars Hollow. Rory saves the day and grows successful/famous, as a result of being humble and helping the town of her roots instead of chasing after wanting to be the next Christiane Amanpour.
There's this saying called " good intentions but bad ideas" I think both Lorilai and Emily had them both but in different ways. There was times where Emily had it right, like when rory started Yale and she wanted her to have a party to introduce her to new boys. The party was weird. Yes. But there intentions were in the right place because her life was going passed what Dean could give her, especially because that was after the cheating scandal. They'd it in the wrong way but there was always a hint of truth.
I don't think it's her upbringing that led to the final scene. She wasn't a teenager who had sex the first time and got pregnant. Rory at that point should have been grown up in a way taking responsibility for the life choices she made. Not only is she still acting like a spoiled child, but has no morals. Sleeping with a married dean and later with an engaged Logan. Her career: basing it on a book of more or less her mother's life without her consent...not ok. And why would being a teacher so bad ? Bc she felt offended be offered a "low" job. No, without the pink glasses of the TV series, I don't like Rory anymore.
I think once Rory was in college living on her own. Lorelai shouldn't be a reason life didn't go as planned. During that time rory made her own choices and mistakes. I was actually in favor of her dropping out of yale given how shaken to her core she was after the Mitchum situation which made alot of sense to me. I just wish rory had gotten the chance to figure out who she was outside of the bubble she was placed in during those 6 month.
my favorite Jess scene is from the revival: when ve looks at Rory through the window of her house also when he tells her: i know you better than anyone
9:38 when asked what I would do if the show was taken off Netflix my first thought was buy dvds. Then I remebered there were actually some at the thrift store the other day. Then I realized there was really no need as I can rent them from the library. Public libraries for the win!
Gilmore Girls is near and dear to my heart. When it premiered, I had just graduated from college, and was on my own. I was smack in the middle of Rory and Lorelei. For years I would watch and rewatch as new seasons came out, and never liked some of the decisions that Rory made. But it was when she stopped talking to Lorelei, quite Yale, and became a full dependent of her grandparents that it really hit me. Rory is exactly what Richard and Emily wanted Lorelei to be - a stuck-up, entitled rich socialite. Once Rory got a taste of rich elitism, she embraced it. Rory “fit” in Stars Hollow afterwards because of Lorelei, and that’s it. I really loved hearing your perspective that she changed solely with the involvement of her grandparents. I agree.
Omg I recently pointed out the ballerina review vs Mitchum criticism hypocrisy! Thank you for mentioning this! You’re right on all points here! Rory started out mature and ended up…not mature in the Revival.
Tbh, I do think she didn't really want to be a journalist she just said "I just want to see something" when asked why she wanted to be like amanpour... Hence she failed in the revival and mitchum was right And honestly you don't have to go to a prep school to go to Yale or do all that to be a journalist lol. And the fact that she had that Yale stuff as a smaller kid is odd. Even Lorelei admitted "ever since she was going I wanted her to go to Yale"- so I think her mom probably planted that early because she used to want to go as Richard revealed. Her background was always going to set her up to fail rather than one exact moment
I also think the Lorelai, even though it hurts her deeply to not be emotionally attuned by her mother, she gets the advantage of seeing her from an outside perspective and not liking her back and not liking her values... where else Rory was well liked in the upper community as well, so it isn't obvious to her.
I can't watch this yet, but I'm excited to and it's in my watch later!! I love talking about this subject. Had to like and comment real quick to support the vid 🤷♀️
Rory worked so hard, plus she has all the money in the world if she wanted too. Yeah that can make a person a bit intitled, but those are character flaws, they do not break rory
And i think how you get into something is a huge factor to how you will behave while you are there. I think Rory changed when she's in yale because of how she got in. she's accustomed to it now.
Neither she dropping out of school and then later who she become came as a surprise to me. I agree with everything you said but I find it pretty obvious.
I never put it together before how much Rory changed after having more influence from and exposure to hrt grandparents. But YOU’RE TOTALLY RIGHT! How did I not see it. I loved the first few seasons. But after season 4, Rory was insufferable. The miniseries was (for me) unwatchable. You made so many excellent points in this video. ❤
And i think she took her mother's experience at a very surface level of understanding, like doing her own thing by quitting yale because she's an adult and her mother chose to do her own thing when she was young as well, so she thinks that they are on the same playing field... but her mother's reason was to be an individual and grow from the prison that is her family, she wants to build something for herself, where as Rory's reason was to hide from her own necessary growth.
I feel like the best way that ppl learn is through pain. All of her flaws were rug sweep she never paid for the consequences of her actions. She was spoil and coddle
I think the revival should not have happened. The humor aged badly, Rory feels like she did not really live and I also don't really believe she could blow through her trustfund without her grandparents giving her a hard time. That said, if I had to have written the revival, I'd make Rory's downward spiral a bit more believable and think about the life she had and how it shaped her over the years. It would have been a more intesting story to find out what happened to her over the years. The plot itself (being broke, being entitled with no job) was ok, but not delivered very believeable. WHY is she broke? WHY so entitled? That would have been interesting to explore and write.
I saw a fan theory that ‘Gilmore girls’ is the book Rory wrote and AYITL is how Rory really was. It’s the only way I can get behind AYITL change of Rory
It's interesting to me as a fan since before the revival to think about how as a fandom, our view on season 7 has changed to be much more positive since the revival (also personally, to ME the revival is not canon - I really think Rory's S7 ending is 1000x better than revival Rory.)
Thanks for the video! I couldn’t agree more with these comments. In addition, I keep thinking about the talk Paris and Rory had about Rory being valedictorian at Chilton. I don’t know if the statistics Paris spouted were true, but whether done purposely or not, it was odd that Rory was on her way to becoming one of those statistic at the beginning of Year in the Life.
Rory is horrible, guys. I mean, think about it: who doesn't even have the least bit of empathy to understand that sleeping with both married Dean and engaged Logan is wrong and it hurts (and destroys) the other person? Would you do that in real life? And you're right, Kierra. That scene where she was yelled at by Lindsey's mother for destroying her marriage didn't register to Rory. She didn't learn anything from it. I LOVE Lorelei but I think she made the huge mistake of letting Rory too be too close to her grandparents which led to her downfall (lack of empathy, entitlement, arrogant behavior, feeling superior in general, etc).
her grandparents get blamed for behavior that was already there rory from day one of the show was a brat who had a I'm better then everyone and know everything attitude covered up with a fake shes so sweet Persona yeah she was a teenager at the time who grew more into this attitude as she grew up she never learned anything because lorelai protected her from lessons of life her grandparents and ties to that world didn't help but she always was going to be this person the sighs where there already
at this point i wouldn't include Rory as much in the revival. the reason i wanted to see a revival was Lorelei and luke ending up together but ofc rory had to sleep with another married man and continue to fail ( that sounded harsh but i just finshed the show and the revaival and i hate her charecters downfall and im still heartnbroken)
Also why does no one ever talk about Rory daddy issues i mean Christopher wasn't there for most of her life and when sherry got pregnant you could clearly tell that she was affected by the fact he was gonna have a replacement daughter. Plus her having daddy issues would explain her Cheating and staying with guys although they treat her like crap and I think that the reason lorerali treated her like a god sometimes was to make up for the fact that she didn't have a real father figure (other than luke)
The argument is always that she dropped out. And that breaks her character? Are you aware that you need conflict in a story? Taking a gap semester is ok. Especially if someone that strikes a similar look to your grandfather tells you you suck without any reason... she's not perfect but who is? Also the ballerina thing. She felt guilty afterwards and I think it was ment to show that she secrefices her own belives for the job. Wich isn't good but clearly goal oriented. Something that is claimed to be one of her best attributes
Rory had sympathy for others as long as she's not treated the same way. I think her change in character is good for the storyline... people who excel in the world do not excel merely for merit alone, and she wanted to go up the ladder fast because she was the smart one in the family... but once she realize that she's not treated in that special way and you cannot go by merit alone, she is okay with exercising her privilege while also identifying with being a working girl like her mother. But I also feel bad for her because she also played that emotional supporter role with Lorelai, she's a bit of a parentified kid as well in her childhood and the mediator between her mother and grandmother and that will do a number on you... so yeah
i love your videos kierra! by the time rory got to college, she was honestly quite unbearable to me. part of me always loves rory and i love her relationship with logan throughout college (team logan for rory but team jess as my favorite boy). but the larger part of me can’t stand the decisions she made into her adult life ( i hated the revival) and how entitled she tended to be. the whole dropping out of yale arc was awful. everyone around her coddled her even when she was in her 30’s! they acted as if she was a queen and it was definitely not good for her development into adulthood. i do agree she definitely experienced some gifted child syndrome as a gifted child myself. it can be exhausting with all the expectations, but let’s not ignore her very very very large flaws. sorry if i don’t make a whole lot of sense, just spilling my thoughts
I think if she kept Emily and Richard out of her life maybe... just maybe rory wouldn't have turned out like that. Because lorelai would straight up tell her when she was doing something wrong
I agree that Lorelai going to her folks for the $ to send Rory to Chilton was not a good choice and to me it doesn't even seem to make sense for Lorelai to have done that given her history with that kind of lifestyle...but what would the show have been without colliding those two "lives of Lorelai"?
i think it would have been interesting if season 7 ended with Rory telling her mom she was pregnant after rejecting Logan’s proposal and having to balance motherhood and a career. that way when the revival came around we could see how she handled it all esp parenting. was she more like Lorelei or Emily? was she able to maintain a career? relationships? i dunno just my opinion lol
i def think rory was so used to everyone being to impressed by her that when she was no longer the perfect girl she felt she couldn’t do it anymore and they wouldn’t support her
Rory was always rude, way before the ballet/ballerina article. She messed with Michele and was disrespectful to him from the very beginning, season one, from the first time they're shown together. She also steals from the inn, with Lorelei agreeing with it.
Hi :) thank you for the video ! I agree with what you said just one thing I wanted to add, I guess you mentioned in other videos. I think Rory is like Emily: she is smart, intelligent, she is even snobbish at some points (that we can see while her being in Chilton and Yale and how is reflected on her relationship with Dean), she likes to be part of that rich world (hanging out with Logan and Death Life Brigade and I even thought about her being a bit pragmatic and sticking to Logan because of his father's newspaper power). Rory was reflection of the expectations of her being special at Stars Hollow and the family and she was pressured by that too much, which, as you said, resulted into overheat (basically, she enjoyed doing nothing at some point when she dropped Yale). She did what people expected her to do and when she wanted to change her path(thinking of other career while break in Yale), they insisted. Logan/Mitchum and Jess were the ones to point that maybe being reporter as Christine Amanpour is too much for her. Jess pointed to her about writing a book, as saw she fits that world more. She rejected the local small newspaper, cause she thought it would not fit everybody's expectations and her status " special ". I think that's why we see her broken at some point in the "year of life", cause she didn't follow her path, but what she was expected to do. And I think this was too much for her to be in two worlds at the same time: Stars Hollow and Rich world and that affected her as well, since her identity was divided.
When I first watched Gilmore Girls, When i saw Rory in S1 she was like my idol, she was like the perfect student always having good grades and always studying. But when she got that bob cut, i felt like that was her downfall- or her going in yale. I never expected her to be in yale instead of harvard.
I think the “ dropping out of Yale “ plot line was poor not because she dropped out but the writing made it look like going back and catching up was going to be done ver just a few weeks .. no problem barely an inconvenience...
I have watched Gilmore Girls over and over again this fall season and I finally realized why I don't like Rory.... She doesn't like stinky cheese!! I cannot trust a person who doesn't love the best kinds of cheese!
Sure there is some blame on Lorelai but noooo the way Rory turned out is all Rory. You have money, parents, education, friends, the internet YET you still turned out the way you did. It sucks because we all hoped better for Rory ESPECIALLY after she made the decision to not marry the guy she would still end up hooking up with behind the back of her boyfriend. Just a lot of potential and passion wasted and for what?
I hear you guys loud and clear about the reading of the screens. Noted for next time and I appreciate you guys being nice about it. I only added the screens bc as I was finishing up editing I realized I had more to say but with my program I edit the audio first and then add scenes on top and once the 30 minutes of audio is edited and broken down if I add ANY new audio afterwards it practically makes me start over. Here’s hoping for getting a better editing program soon
da vinci resolve is a great editing software and it's free i believe, if you're looking for anything new :)
@@user-iz3ss5rb3z thank you!
Did you know about Carole King's appearance? The woman who owned the shop that sold the drums to Lane? I just found out! Season 2, episode 20
My favorite Jess-scene is the "Whyy did you drooop out ouf YAAALe?!" because it was the necessary reality check that Rory needed and no one faced her with
The reason Jess is able to get his life together is Luke, specifically the plotline in season 4 when Luke makes Jess come to his mother's wedding, and spends three episodes offering him a combination of accountability, encouragmement to think of his impact on others, a dorky self-help book and unconditional love and acceptance. Lorelai occasionally attempts to impose accountability with Rory, but is always undercut by her parents (both after sleeping with Dean and after dropping out of Yale, the grandparents intervene take her away from the conseqences of her actions.) This is why Jess is the only person who can offer Rory what Luke gave him: "Whyyy did you drooop out of YAAAALE!" ... and then later hey I'm not going to be the person you cheat on Logan with. Each time it's accountability mixed with unconditional love. (This happens later in the revival too.) Jess may not be Rory's best boyfriend, but he is one of her true friends.
YES! I loved that part. It shows that Jess cared enough to not tip toe around her so she could reach her full potential.
Totally! It´s my favorite too because Jess understood her and it´s what she needs to listen to go back to Yale. I love that moment. I also love when she says: "You wrote a book. You sat down and wrote a book".
This is true, but bear in mind he was telling Rory to leave Yale with him the previous year.
@@bef9612 That´s right! The writers had a lapsus hehehe
Also, Rory seemed to go into cruise mode after university thinking her Yale background would carry her through.
Yes, this exactly
@@jsmith8904 i don't think she thougth that in that moment she was just hurt and wasn't thinking straight, this actually happened to me i was the academic gifted child who drop out of college, the difference is i did it because i got ill, and then i had deppression, but at that time i was feeling so bad i would have done anything like hurting myself, she stole a yatch because she wanted to get out of the world she wanted to stop being her.
I feel like Rory started spiraling when she took on too many classes which lead to her failing and looking for comfort in a familiar place like Dean. She tried to go back to the last time she felt successful and on track and that was when she was in high school, with her ‘perfect’ boyfriend who worshipped her. I feel like Yale opened her eyes to the fact that she wasn’t extraordinarily gifted beyond compare like she had been told and instead of accepting that and adjusting she ran from it.
In my opinion Rory's "downfall" began not when she dropped out of Yale, it was when she decided to *go* to Yale. I know that Harvard didn't allow them to film but i think it would have been way better if she actually would have went to Harvard. The way in the show she just changed her mind that quickly is honestly kind of sad and how much she is influenced by her grandparents. But maybe that's exactly the point of the show, to see a relatble character with big opportunities just for them to fail and to look right into the eye of the harsh reality
I raise you on that. I think the first cracks can be actually seen in the very first episode - she meets a cute boy and she is immediately ready to give up Chilton?
@@lenusniq_9746 oooooh interesting point
THIS!!!!
@@lenusniq_9746 that's a really good point you have there!!
Her changing her mind about harvard was a betrayal of everything she and her mother had worked for. I get that its her life… but they had worked towards that goal for years- of course lorelai wanted that for rory from birth.
A really interesting video, but I've noticed that, in a lot of these videos analyzing Rory's privileged and coddled life (which is a definite fact, not trying to deny that), people tend to really overlook the first 16 years of her life and how that might affect her privilege-blindness. The show starts when she's 16 and the Gilmores enter her life, but it's made very clear often enough that, for the first years of her life, she was the child of a teen mother, living in a potting shed behind a hotel, while her mother worked as a teen maid for said hotel (not really gonna even comment on the child labor law violations involved with that). It's played for quirkiness and fondness in the show, but that is single-parent *poverty.* We're told often enough that her father is utterly absent and doesn't fulfill his obligations, both financially and parentally, regarding Rory. All of these things (poverty, familial and financial instability, borderline-if-not-outright homelessness) absolutely take a toll on children, especially during those formative early years. We, as an audience, see Rory/Lorelai later in life, when Lorelai is older, more mature (although still immature when it comes to relationships) and more settled. She has risen through the ranks to settle into a more comfortable income and eventual home-ownership. We are introduced to them as "comfortable" and eventually, with the introduction of Emily and Richard, and particularly in Rory's case, "cushioned".
I can totally see how a character like Rory can look back on her early years and think "No, I'm not privileged! I'm the child of a teen mom! We grew up in a shed and lived off of cast-offs and charity", completely blind to the fact that she can no longer claim that disadvantage anymore. If anything, I can see why it would make Rory cling to the comfort and shelter she perceived in Emily and Richard.
Not trying to defend Rory (I've been thoroughly over her character since Season 6, honestly) but I think this is a big oversight in these debates about Rory and her privilege that I've never really seen discussed in great depth in the videos I've come across. Rory is discussed as this middle-class girl thrust into an upper-class world and how it ruined her. And that's fair. But we also really forget that she did, in fact, grow up poor and homeless in her early years and all of the ways THAT lifestyle might have affected her in the long-term.
Great video! Love the insight! Gonna check out your others!
Probably because it’s like…an out-of-sight-out-of-mind thing. Great point though!
I actually know someone like this. She's so set in her mind with herself as poor from the past she hasnt been able to internalize that her situation is different now.
@@krose6451 yes, i think it is a realistic 'scarcity mindset' thing, if you have grown up with a traumatic loss, you can't accept internally that the hole may be filled now, instead people psychologically 'store-cupboard' in case it all gets taken away tomorrow again. So, in a way, Rory has been brought up in the shadow of Lorelai's lost life, and she wants as much of it as she can get, bc tomorrow it might all be gone.
1. Have you ever heard of the lottery? Do you know what most lottery winners do once they hit it big? It doesn't matter what most of their life experience was, they'll become a completely different person once they're super rich and they'll splurge their wealth and power until their broke.
2. Everything before the age of 10 is irrelevant. Everything between age 10 and 13 is semi-irrelevant. Since she wasn't being tortured by her mother at a young age, those memories even if they were non-privileged don't weigh much on her personality because she's not traumatized from abuse or living on the street, so it's all water under the bridge that's irrelevant to how she turns out as an adult. Only the lived experience of her teens has any significance and that was a very short period before she got spoiled.
i agree w/ you, but my nick-picking ass wants to point out that Lorelai was 18 when working at the hotel (she god pregnant at 16, had rory, and waited a year before running away.) a year + 40 weeks, she was more than likely 18 when she ran away--At least that's if memory serves (going off that flashback episode where sherry has her baby)
I don't disagree that Rory's environment definitely influenced her behavior. It is interesting you bring up therapy though because she actually does go to therapy after she returns to Yale.
She does start trying to be independent by living with Paris and taking the initiative to get a job at a different newspaper along with catching up to graduate at the same time as Paris. She even turns down offers from her dad and Logan to live in a nicer place.
If I were to change the revival, it would be to have her live with Paris again because while she cares for Rory, she doesn't coddle her. She pushes her to be better, and Rory does the same for her. They don't lie to each other unlike every other person in the show
Paris was an awful person. No one would be a friend of her.
She goes to therapy as far as we know once. The scene was also portrayed in a very comical way with no real depth or self reflection. It would have way more interesting to have seen Rory continue therapy but really have some accountability. It would have been refreshing in the revival for her to have maybe gone to therapy with Loralei and Emily bc she was one who needed it just as much if not more. Maybe then we could have had a breakthrough as to how she got to where she was. It wouldn’t have fixed things but man, it would have been a start.
@@michaelstone5298 wait, who's married to Jonathan?
I would have liked for Rory to have the epiphany that she is allowed to be a rich housewife and she could use that power to help others. She would be like on therapy (I agree she needs it) and be like omg! I should marry Logan! And for Jess to find someone better for him who he loves even more than Rory. The way she treated Jess was 🤯 and he deserved better.
@@mary-janereallynotsarah684 no I wouldn't want that.
OK, here's the thing about Rory, she was sheltered her entire life and unlike her mother never had to practice any real world responsibilities. Yes she's well read but literary knowledge doesn't necessarily translate to any skills other than expanding intellect or possibly landing her a career in writing or publishing or teaching, which she never really pursued (possibly cuz she burned herself out at Chitlin). Plus, she only ever read highly dramatic works of fiction, which is maybe why she's been prone to making dramatic, rash decisions like the whole cheating with Dean saga and dropping out of Harvard. ALSO I feel like she only ever wanted to go to an Ivy League for the prestige. She never had a real goal other than getting in. All of her academic success seemed only to serve her Harvard dream, which is fine enough but of course when she gets there she has this huge identity crisis because her entire identity up until that point was to be smart in order to get into Harvard. She's hanging onto this thread of an identity as a writer/journalist and then the Mitcham situation happens and it completely destroys her. She's left with no personality and no goals which plummets her into a crisis she never really recovered from. It's honestly tragic and super common. Also if she weren't the main character there's no way she'd be valedictorian over Paris I mean come on.
The show really did Paris dirty there. She deserved to get into Harvard and definitely valedictorian.
Yale*
True... but let’s remember Paris called it that, statistically, salutatorians do better in life than valedictorians. And that’s exactly what happened in the show.
I'm glad you mentioned how similar Rory and Jess are. I have been thinking for a while now that it really seems like Rory sees a lot of herself in Jess when they first meet, and views him and his journey as mirroring her own in a lot of ways, and I don't think that perception of herself in relation to him fully updates until she reconnects with him while living with E&R. I think it's only then that she becomes aware of how unlike him she's become, of how much Jess has grown in ways that are authentic to the person she knew then while she's strayed far away from that, and of how skewed her perception of herself and her own privilege has become. I really do wonder if anyone else could've made her see that so effectively.
One thing I noticed in my recent rewatch of the series is whenever Rory does something wrong and 'takes accountability,' she repremand's herself so much and is so hard on herself that the person who she hurt (Like when she missed Lorelei's graduation to go to NY to see Jess) starts to feel bad because she feels so terrible and feels the need to be hard on herself. She inadvertently guilts people into being hurt by her bad decisions, which I think she could have learned from watching Lorelei feud with her mother.
yup, in a way it feels like she is suddenly very isolated from the group and a 'bad person', it is interesting to think where that comes from. I wonder if it is bc she hasn't had access to enough of a male role model - I know she had Luke up to a point, but he isn't her 'dad' as a young girl - so she hasn't experienced a different kind of discipline. Lorelai is very protective and loving of Rory, but I wonder if she tended to plead with her more than discipline her i.e. I need you to be good or we won't be able to eat, and she views her as a best friend rather than a daughter, which is understandable when she had her so young.
I got to a point where I just read that as her narcissism and making it all about herself.
I think a few things would have made Rory’s story land better for me. If she had gotten pregnant just after college and was raising her child as a single mother in her thirties, struggling with a career that had to be put on indefinite hold, and a disappointed family the way lorelai did (if asp was so married to Rory mirroring lorelai), and Rory admitting that maybe she did need serious therapy. Rory is my age, and the revival was around the time I realized that I needed more professional help than I was getting. They gave that story to lorelai, but I think it would have been more interesting and more generationally accurate for a millennial.
Yeah its so sad they just continued to write the story for a 10 years younger Rory. She does not feel like 30, she feels like 20.
That was the plan from the original writer but she left before the seventh season and came back in the revival which is why they feel so disjointed
@Spicy Bees oh yeah I know. It's why I'm so nervous for the last season of Mrs. Maisel. Asp has already proven she's willing to sacrifice narrative for what she wants. 😅
@@happytofu5 I think it would have made more sense for the revival to take place about 3 years later. But about 10 years is just too much for what they did.
I agree with this, and as others have pointed out, the show’s creator, Amy Sherman Palladino, mentioned the revival is generally how they were planning to end the original show - I assume that means Rory getting pregnant in her early 20s, not long after college. If we followed that plot, I believe the revival showing Rory in her 30s could have been all about Rory reconnecting with her literary goals after years of feeling burned out by motherhood and perhaps a more monotonous job (like working at a local newspaper!)
You make a lot of wonderful points. At the same time, I can't help but feeling that Rory always must have had so much more capacity for developing sheer coldness than Lorelai ever imagined, or indeed knew to be actively guarding against her developing. And for me, the biggest moments aren't even any boyfriend stuff, at least not more than tangentially.
Like so many other viewers, despite not having been born into DAR-WASPy New England Elite wealth privilege, Rory was initially extremely relatable to me. In some of the obvious ways she was relatable to probably a million other girls, but also, I actually did have a grandparent relationship where I got some stuff given to me pretty lavishly even while there were some pretty unhealthy dynamics going on with my her and my mother (her mother-in-law in this case).
I definitely always saw the problems--and as you've shown, the manipulations--in Richard and Emily's place in Lorelei and Rory's lives. At the same time...I just cannot wrap my head around Rory just sending Logan's buddies to get her stuff like it's some joke rather than showing up to tell them in person she's going back to Yale. It's not that they deserve better as like, universal karma, it's that I can't understand how she herself didn't feel any degree of guilt not paying them any kind of courtesy of, thank you for everything but I'm ready to go back to school now, when they not only bankrolled her life and took her on another trip to Europe, but literally kept her life from being destroyed after she blithely stole a yacht (tbh this seems to be the permanent point-of-no-return with me and Rory).
Rory's coldness is also imo evident to me in her and Paris's relationship, which, let me make it clear, I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to be friends with Paris. But the last we see of them in the series, Rory 's body language is kinda acting like Paris is a weirdo for hugging her at graduation. This is after moments like other students at the Yale paper assuming Paris is Rory's best friend and Rory correcting them on that even though she didn't actually have more of a best friend at Yale. Then fast forward to the revival and we know through dialogue that although Paris is married (divorced?) with two kids she has literally given Rory a key to her home in New York (I think) that Rory uses to stay whenever she wants. Rory just increasingly comes off like such a cold person who's very comfortable being a user with zero guilt about using people she doesn't even like/would be very happy to ditch.
I think that they should’ve focused more on Rory falling into a perfectionist mindset instead of her sleeping with Dean. Her sleeping with Dean was just a weird conflict that ultimately went nowhere and did nothing but harm her character development. If they wanted to show Rory struggling or having a curveball to offset her “Mary sue” ness, they should’ve focused on the fact that she felt she couldn’t fail. They should’ve shown her overworking herself and struggling to keep up with her studies and NOT succeeding, failing a test because she didn’t have enough time to properly study or being burnt out because of all the work she had to do. They should’ve showed how she feared disappointing those who built her up.
I 100% agree it would've been very interesting and it's a subject not a lot of tv writing seems to explore imo
The people who hate on Rory are missing the point-the entire show is an indictment of generational wealth and class differences, and Rory is intended to demonstrate how those forces change people. I absolutely agree that environment makes a big difference, and that’s why Rory is a good person at the start and changes as they go. they often overlook the impact of generational wealth in the show for some reasons There’s a reason the story starts with the grandparents and Chilton being introduced as elements in the girls’ lives. Every time Rory turns around, Emily and Richard are creating loopholes and helping her evade consequences for her behavior and promoting an idea that she’s entitled to a higher class simply due to birth or money. I’m not exempting her from the choices she makes, but putting this on Lorelei is baloney. She doesn’t believe she’s better than everyone at the beginning, when Lorelei and everyone has been supportive since she was born. That’s always been there, and Lorelei does hold her pretty accountable when things get tough-more than once, she confronts Rory on how she’s treating others and she plays the mom card when Rory forces her to. The problem starts when the consequences for her failures and choices stop costing her and the grandparents allow her a route to escape consequences.
The whole show wants to demonstrate that when your world allows you to be selfish and avoid consequences and allow you to obtain things without putting in hard work, you’ll begin to think that you’re really entitled to things. Not to mention that her hard work doesn’t help her get the internship with mitchum, but she’s instead foiled by class differences (something Logan later points out does when he disapproves of that piece she writes, that she doesn’t want to acknowledge that she belongs to an entitled class-once again, there’s a focus on her social class that implies that class seems to matter more than her actual work).
The revival is fantastic thematic storytelling-some people just want characters to SAY things that are clear in the subtext. Rory’s downfall IS the accountability that the show is delivering, if you pay attention. The revival shows the actual consequences of class and money enabling you to avoid everything. I love that Rory’s problem the whole show is that she entirely loses her ability to work for things she wants instead of resting on generational wealth, and at the end of the show, she’s at exactly the same place Lorelai is at the start of the show: being forced to step up and return to her roots in Lorelai’s initial spot as a single mother, which emphasized the idea that that is what will finally force her to change, because she IS like Lorelai, and having Rory was what made Lorelai into a good person. It’s a subtle way to show that doing things the hard way has merit, even in a flawed system of social class and money. I hate the way people talk about Rory and Lorelai about whether they’re likeable or not because Rory and Lorelai don’t exist so we’ll like them-they exist to create a message, and I’ll always love Rory for that if nothing else. I was the same age as her when the show aired and I went from trying to mimic her to trying to do the opposite of her and I thought that was proof of a very well-done character arc that taught me something about taking the easy way out. What a lot of people miss about Rory is that you’re not supposed to like her-that she becomes so difficult to respect is THE WHOLE POINT. Wealth and class change you, and not for the better. Edited to add-excellent video :)
Rory's personality "change" should be blamed on her alone. For a counter-example, there are plenty of wealthy and well known people in hollywood that are still mentally down to earth
even though i sometimes hate rory’s decisions, i can’t help but also like her and smile when she’s onscreen and i think it’s because she seems like such a real person because of her flaws
I’ve thought a lot about where the series should go after the revival 😅 so I heard the show designer said Rory had to reach rock bottom to be like her mother which is why they were so awful to her in the revival. Therefore I can conclude that like Lorelei, they want her to go on an upward path now. I envision Rory and Lane starting a school for the arts in Stars Hollow to help the next generation of kids reach their goals without needing the privilege of rich grandparents to do it. I think it would be very similar to how Lorelei and Suki started their own inn. I also think Rory being a mom would take some of the focus off herself and would result in her being less selfish.
I feel like when talking about Rory and college, it’s also worth mentioning that in choosing the most “elite” i.e. brand name school, she maybe did not get the best educational experience. A lot of people at unis like Yale and Harvard are there because of a legacy, be it theirs or the school’s - they want the degree with a shiny name even if they aren’t necessarily learning from it.
Massive universities are not always great for getting real experience, because you spend more time listening than anything else. What’s more, because Rory had the Gilmore name and wealth to rely on, I feel she wasn’t really pushing herself once she got her college acceptance letters. She stopped growing after she was done with Chilton. Rory’s first real job, and accordingly the first real world criticism she faced, was with Mitchum.
In my humble opinion, Rory would have been better off at a small college with small classes, in a truly academic setting. It seems to me that Yale did not really change from Chilton in education or environment, and so Rory became stunted at a time where she was supposed to grow.
Rory outgrew journalism path in college but the tv writers didn’t pivot her, that’s why everything in late college and revival see Rory just floundering. A perfect example of this is when Paris is waiting on her acceptance to law school and medical school. She had shit planned and was willing to through everything at the wall and hustle. Rory simply wanted to twiddle her thumbs and wait for her golden opportunities to find her, which they did(thanks writers for unrealistic expectations) but they rang so false. Rory is a writer not a journalist. And the longer she clinged to that childhood career the worse she got overall. She also never ever ever learned or grew from her mistakes. We like to watch flawed characters but don’t like to watch dumb choices being made over and over and the character being shocked by the outcome.
It occured to me randomly that there is one change they could have made in the revival that would have made all the difference for me. If they had made the Stars Hollow Gazette a real job, either because it had a small modest salary or because Rory took the rest of her trust fund/inheritance and used it to turn the newspaper around. I think it doesn't make her a bad person or a bad journalist to be unable to make a real living in the current media enviornment. Lots of people can't. But if that piece of the story was turned into Rory giving up the big Christiane Amanpour dream and realizing that you could do something worthwhile with your education (and/or money) by reviving your home town paper - that would have changed the ending a lot. Instead they made it a sad little joke of a volunteer job and said hey, instead of coming back home to serve your community you're going to write a book using Lorelei's story against her will and then emotionally blackmail her into consenting - yuck. I mean you could have the book still in the revival, you could even have the whole messed up thing with Logan, but I'd have loved a story where we see her hit bottom and realize, like a Frank Capra movie, I love this town I grew up in, I can do something that would be in service to it. It would have been large and deep instead of entitled and shallow.
I honestly thought that was the direction they were going to go and was disappointed when it turned into a joke.
I think my biggest gripe with AYITL is that the original writer wanted to tell the ending she envisioned so much that they didn’t take into account that Rory was 30 and that her story line seemed to have been something that should have happened right after college when she was first entering the “real world” versus when she was already a journalist for 9 years.
I feel like it would be different if she was like this isn’t the life I want now I need to figure out a different path instead of being this floundering person. Also her being pregnant at the end didn’t have the same effect as it would have had at the end of the original series.
I’m studying TV writing. Of course, the pilot sets up the arc and themes for the show. What happens? Lorelei can’t solve a problem due to tons of $$$, so she breaks her own rules and goes to her parents. Emily uses Lorelei’s need for $$ to emotionally extort her for time. As pointed out in the video, Lorelei sees money as buying opportunity, and Emily eyes it as power. So spot on.
If power corrupts and money is certainly a form of power, then the argument can be made that the entire show is about money corrupting Rory. If she had been a scholarship kid at Harvard, rather than a legacy at Yale, she would have had to BRING IT when she was challenged.
Fill disclosure, I went to an Ivy later in life and it was such a shock. Not only did a lot of the kids have rich parents,but their ignorance of how others lived was incredible. People wrote things online about me “thinking she’s poor.” I’m not sure where that came from, except that there was pressure to go out all the time or maybe I expressed concern about being able to graduate, etc. Not everyone’s going to Paris for Spring Break. Heck, I was grateful I could work 40 hours and get some extra money for the rest of the semester. My friend was organizing a fundraiser and someone on the committee suggested she get a former POTUS to speak. My friend, from the hood, scoffed. How would she even get in touch with him? The girl said, “I can have my dad call him.” Like, NBD.
Talk about A Different World!
Rory goes from a small town girl, where she had moral support, to a privileged girl whose grandfather could make a call or write a check to solve any problem she had *cough* created.
You mentioned something important... It would be impossible to graduate at the same time of her friends , she didn't even took no clases on summer or something like that. Also my fav scene with Jess is on the kiss when she said 'can you imagine if braces were involved in this interaction?' and he answer 'will be a bloodbath'
She did take more classes than necessary during her first year, which was mentioned. Maybe that's why she was able to graduate when she did
I think that you are correct that Rory was influenced by R&E and seeing her mother spar with them. I also think that her dropping out of Yale was her turning point. It would have been amazing if she dropped out and found an inner passion and pursued it and somehow made a life for herself beyond Yale. Instead the writers chose the narrative that she had to get back to Yale. Meanwhile Logan was a totally terrible boyfriend during that time. He never pushed her to be better. It would have made more sense for her to have ended up with Jess because they could have inspired eachother to find that path and be creative together. He becomes a writer and makes an actual name for himself without a college degree. He goes down the path of hard work and perseverance. Wish I saw more of that in Rory (and honestly wish they showed us more of Jess and his journey. I can’t stand that the writers kept her with Logan and his life of privilege. I actually think that he became more of a cushion for her than R&E were once she was in Yale. I guess to sum up - Rory was never allowed to hit rock bottom and have to pick herself up.
even as just a friend, jess could've been an important influence on her if he became a regular character in the latter seasons. he's someone who reached rock bottom at a worse time and was still able to pick himself up and become better. rory needed someone who wasn't part of the wealthy world and someone who could ground her when she would become too entitled or selfish as well as someone inspiring her.
logan is from a world where he's not actually supported by his family so his way of supporting someone is just letting them do whatever they want. some of that is good BUT the issue is that he sees rory's mental breakdowns (like wanting to steal a yacht) and her self-destructive behaviours as fine and not something worth talking about. logan may have grown from their relationship but rory never did and just became worse as the years went on
Heýyyy... I will have to say I agree with you for the most part but I think Lorelai asking Richard and Emily for the loan for Chilton was not a bad idea. Rory was not academically challenged at Stars Hollow High and I think she needed that competition.
I think the issue is that Rory seemed to fit into Emily and Richard's world perfectly but she wanted to pretend she didnt. I think Rory just gravitated towards that world more. Lorelai seems to resent the privileged life she grew up with so I think by extention Rory did not want to think she was a part of it for that sake, but I think deep down her character wanted to live a life of privilege.
I think Lorelai should've let Rory see that a privileged life has its advantages and the positive side of it as well. That 'rich people' are not all spoiled and a horrible person but some are kind... Lorelai thought that leaving privilege made her better but she was always a good person even though she grew up 'rich'. I am like Logan, I see privilege as a good thing, however I think it should be acknowledged. I think Rory's relationship with Logan has helped her to see that not all that has money, are terrible. I think we tend to have this idea that someone that's privileged whether its beauty standards, money etc, they're nasty which is not true.
Sorry its so long... 😅
Yeah thats why I said I understand it I know why she felt it was necessary but I feel like Emily and Richard’s involvement (even at a restricted level) and Rory’s exposure to their lifestyle was a huge part of what went wrong bc she wasn’t like that in season one, yk? And you’re fine I love having these discussions
@@kierralovestv I 100% agree, they had a major influence on how she's turned out. She had a taste of 'the good life' and loved it! 🤣
I think that the writers wanted Rory in this trajectory since the beginning of the show. But you can’t have an audience hating on a child, that’s awful. So they waited for Yale. Hence the Easter Egg they left for us when Rory met the Harvard alum’s daughter who was working several jobs her parents disapproved of.
My questions to you is? If you can rewrite any Gilmore girl season would you? if yes What season would you change? Would you change Rory character if you had the opportunity? If you can any reliving character for a day who would you been?
I would only change the affair with Dean. She would have to face the town and the shame they would heap on her. She would apologize to his wife and her mother. She would have pushed Dean away and grown from the experience.
In the revival, they did not address all the money Rory was supposed to have. Her dad gave her money after his grandfather died and grandma Gilmore had a trust set up for her, and I’m sure she got an inheritance from her father when he died. What happened to all that money? And then the revivable, she was broke. What’s that all about
I bet that’s how she was able to afford rent and frequent travel to London WHEN Logan didn’t offer.
She must have spent it all on rent and flights to London and wherever else she was. It’s actually quite realistic, I know people who spent all their inheritance on a nice (but not completely over the top) lifestyle, (I assume) thinking it would be okay because it was enough, until they realized they had to sell their house or something other of value. Rory probably never worried too much about it when she spent money because she seemed to have enough for years and was sure she would land a great job eventually…
I find it interesting that like nobody believes Dean or Jess were good enough for rory(besides lorelai with dean) but in the revival they both seem to be doing better than rory- probably because they didn't have the same sense of entitlement as rory. It still bugs the shit out of me that rory and Logan didn't end up together bc I truly believe they were good for each other(before the revival) but by the end they were both shitty people who never seemed to learn from their mistakes, and that's infuriating. Also rory never learns from her mistakes, like she literally has cheated on or with every person she's ever dated. She was taught from a young age that she's the best and grew to really believe it, so when things don't go her way she doesn't know what to do. Idk, the revival really bothered me. It's almost like even though it's been ten years, nothing about her has grown in any capacity and she still acts exactly the same(if not worse) than she did at 22. I'm on team rory sucks, sorry not sorry.
I think she only didn't cheat on Jess which is interesting
I get that Rory’s been smothered her whole life by the strong, impressive Gilmore women. That she was burdened by their expectations practically from birth and yet will forever be viewed as Emily’s granddaughter/ Lorelai’s daughter by everyone around them, with Emily the queen of high society and Lorelai the unofficial goddess of Stars Hollow. Lane being her only friend made this worse because Lorelai then used this friendship to contrast helicopter mom Mrs. Kim with herself to assert she was the “good” parent and to force their peer rather than parent-daughter relationship.
With no real outlet from all this growing up, it makes sense that Rory could only ever become a lesser version of either/both women. However, Revival Rory only makes sense if Rory never left Stars Hollow. But she did, which means she’s experienced separation from the umbrella of support of Stars Hollow and the shared views of its residents. Sure, Gilmore money made traveling cushier, but it also let Rory take a breather away from her family’s suffocating expectations, to be around completely different perspectives and to become a fuller person. So her not doing that and actually becoming a worse version of herself will never ring true to me
Gilmore girls is just a story that eventhough sometimes it seems like we can have it all, we can’t.
But someone like rory in real life will actually got somewhere.
Love watching these breakdowns. This is my second time watching this one 😆. If you’d like another Gilmore girl video idea (or an excuse to rewatch) please address Rory’s hair evolution and impressionability.
Seasons 1 & 2: I akin Rory’s hair to either that of Lane or Lorelei, and of course she’s a quiet version of Lorelei but I feel there’s a sense of Lane mixed in there.
Season 3: though subtle, Rory begins to draw her hair back similar to how Paris always does, and while she’s understandably concerned about getting into Harvard, the stress I believe could also be Paris rubbing off on her.
Season 4: she gets her Bob similar to Lindsay around the same time she and Dean marry and the affair happens
Season 5: I feel like she’s mimicking her perception of Lorelei. Her hair looks like how Lorelei’s worn it, she makes the moves on Logan after Chris to her the Lorelei story etc.
Season 6: I think she’s exuding a younger version of Emily Gilmore, and this would be around the time she’s living in the Gilmore pool house.
By season 7 it seems she’s gone full circle but with bangs
This absolutely amazes me!
Kierra i love your approach to things!! i would love to see you talking about anything spongebob related, the way you view things and the way you explain is wonderful i would love to see your takes on it, whatever it might be
Love the content! My only recommendation would be to have less reading screens, and instead, just read it out loud for the video. Your comments on those pages are awesome, but sometimes I'm listening when I can't look at the screen and I miss out 🙈 Please keep making this content though!
It kinda makes sense to how she turns out since it's realistic. But I think her being pregnant wld finally get her to finally get her shit together and realize she was wrong and needs to atone for the better for her and her kid raising.
Girl i love you but please dont write on your videos if you are not saying out loud what is written 😭😭😭 i love listening your videos while doing my makeup and having to pause to read is awful 😭
Got it, only did that bc I thought I needed to be clearer on what I was saying to avoid confusion
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everytime you post i audibly go eeeeee
🥰 made my morning, thank you
So my question is; did ASP know? Did she set out to write an entitled, overly pressured "gifted child" who was doomed to fail? Or, was her trajectory in those seasons kind of by accident?
I'm aware that ASP isn't solely responsible for Rory's arc, I'm just using her name for brevity.
ASP was ousted after a few seasons. You can tell because the Gilmore Girls all of a sudden get pimped out wardrobes and a house remodel. ASP also knew from the very start that the original series she had in mind would eventually close out with 3 words said from Rory, to Lorelei: “mom, I’m pregnant”. If ASP was kept on with the original run, it would have been very different. In my opinion, better.
I love your videos :) One request, can you please narrate your notes/additions? I listen to your videos while I work and I need to keep taking breaks to open my phone again to read the additional insights during the video. Again, love your videos! Very insightful and well thought out.
Amy Sherman Palladino openly admitted to not watching Season 7. I often wonder how that might have changed things. I think she might have written Logan and Rory differently. I think an interesting take might have been if they did get married. Rory went off to do her Presidential campaign job after Season 7. Then at some point her and Logan get back together and married. Maybe the security of Logan's money leads her to just freelance and then she starts just supporting his career? Maybe they are heading toward divorce in the revival because they want different things? Logan has reverted to his cheating ways because this Rory is more like his mother than the Rory he fell for.
I relate to the Gilmore girls a lot. All of them. My mom was always trying to be better than her parents- her dad was physically abusive in particular to the kids, and her mom allowed it but was a perfect mom otherwise. I know she loved caring for others and I try to channel that. She was a perfect mom when I was young but she never really knew what she was doing because her mom had an aneurism when she was 5 and was swiftly replaced with a mistress who would lie to her dad about things being my mom's fault so he would be angry with her instead. She didn't know how to be a mom in a functional, sustainable way. Always struggled with her identity as a mom, I think, and as the years have shown, my mom is bipolar. She only decided to share that with us kids recently.
I think we all are the gilmore girls like we are all pure madonnas and tainted.
I was a perfect kid when I was young. Excellently behaved and on the honor roll. As my mom deteriorated not being medicated, and I was blamed for things that were not my fault or my responsibility- say, doing my mom's housework for her, despite not getting an allowance, which was probably her doing- the whole family was breaking down. My mom was in a psych hospital, she did time in jail, she would sleep until we got home from school and not cook dinner or clean the house. Came home drunk. Crazy thing is none of these things seemed strange until it got really bad. She would just say she was tired, and the charges were at least mostly for weed. Now, about breaking the law when you have kids at home; well, no comment needed.
Anyway, one day she outright left in the middle of the night. I was angry. For years. My sister was only 10. I really struggled to step into the motherly role at 12 and so did my dad and I kept everything bottled particularly at school. I felt it was my personal business and I guarded it so fiercely that I struggled to write those papers you wrote about yourself and never asked for leniency from my teachers. I began to be guarded with everything personal at all like that kept the not normal things away. Emotionally, this started a storm in me of turmoil and doing things like deep diving research (not school work) to cope, social withdrawl.
My grades dropped and I began to fail and skip class out of overwhelm and I graduated a semester late with summer school. I also had issues sleeping well for years, it would take me hours to try to do my homework and it would just get worse.
I also have shaken out to be the least angry child. I have forgiven her.
I knew she was struggling but I thought she ought to be trying harder for us. She made us and if she had to crawl through the trenches, she should. We didn't need to be caught up in what she was doing at the time- and we still were, as she had a new bf but still constantly stole from dad, which meant from us, and our college funds, while threatening divorce and taking his assets, like the house we live in.
In some sense, I do not think it is her fault but her disease. I could be angry at her disease but what's the point? It keeps her from accepting medication.
Still, my mama is trying to be a better mom but my sisters will hardly speak to her and as far as I know, she refuses to take her medication. It's difficult to work up the courage to visit her, and there aren't any presents or visits on special days. My dad has stepped into both pairs of shoes.
I try to do what I want in my life and also do right. I know firsthand how hard it is, but I try. I have had a much better relationship with my dad as of late but I have also really clung to my in laws, admittedly, who are in some lights a perfect family- by which I mean loving and caring.
I identify with these moms and daughters so much so I don't think I could mother right. This is only helped by the fact I have a genetic disorder and I am an interesting combination of healthy and sickly. I am not having my own children.
I have had to be pretty self concerned to survive, I like to tend to myself first. I might be able to do it but I definitely do not want to care for young children, I might adopt older children one day. My heart aches for them and I also want to give them a life they deserve. And the love I suddenly stopped getting.
Okay this is my new favourite channel! The analysis was spot on! ❤
I believe is exactly what you said, she Laks independence, I have a life very similar to Rory in some aspects, my mom divorced, my grandparents help me to pay my university and postgraduate, we lie a lot between us (just because we are use to it to avoid fights ) or not lies but not saying stuff to avoid arguing, what Im saying is that I like the show because it reminds me of my family but I'm married, have a good carrer and I'm independent even though that my family always supported me financially speaking, but I was a little adult, because my mother is like Lorelai I started to do my own gorceries, go to the bank and even the doctor alone as I said to avoid arguing because the different thing about me is that my mother and I are more like Emily and Lorelai we always use to fight, so yes I believe to make Rory better she needed to go to therapy, I went and now I understand better my family and feel happy with my life
I think Rory should have realized that she didn't really want to be a journalist anymore. She could have had a a life crisis while still attending Yale. She could have meltdowns over not knowing what she wants to do with her life. I personally think that Rory should've gotten her PhD in Literature or something similar and become a professor. She also could write on the side.
I love exploring this idea! Personally I feel like one of the big turning points for Rory starts with her going to Yale over Harvard - plot-wise I get it, and it's interesting to see how her grandparent's influence affects her and her college experience, but I think it definitely kneecapped her development. To me, she didn't even have to go to Harvard instead necessarily - just anywhere other than Yale. There are SO many colleges with amazing journalism programs, and I'd loved to have seen her somewhere where she could really exercise her independence and make messy mistakes and actually learn from them [which is a huge part of what college is for, imo]. Actually - if I was trying to fix two birds with one plot change, I'd have her and Lane wind up as roommates somewhere outside of stars hollow [the way Lane's story develops has always bothered me SO much]. I'd love to see them both come into their own.
I think we also have to remember Rory isn't real and sometimes writers just...mess up a character. A lot of her change happened when a man took over the show, but that aside, Rory wasn't the only character that changed and suffered for either badly created plots or shticks.
exactly, I think there's a difference between a good/well-developed character that is immoral and a poorly written character that is also immoral. Rory's downfall felt pointless, Luke's marriage to Nicole felt pointless, Lorelai's marriage to Christopher felt pointless, Luke having gotten a girl pregnant felt pointless, Emily's breaking up Luke and Lorelai felt pointless, all these mistakes the characters made felt pointless. That's why they're poorly written. If Rory was better written with the same type of downfall then more people would like her. But she wasn't, so we don't.
Mitchum was right she didn't have the right personality for journalism and when she was back at Chilton in the revival talking about her experiences and her music class she lit up and I think that she should have taken Head Master Charleston's helping hand into making her career a teacher while she was writing her book and of course writing it in Richard's Study, that would have been a better outlet for her and she would have at least a decent job and not have her focus on cheating again with Logan and all of that.
Poor writing is what happened to Rory.
I aaaalways sing along to your "Oh yeah!"
Loved this analysis, i've watched the Gilmore girls like 4 times and never realized how mean Rory was with that ballerina
Ngl Rory’s pathological cheating makes a lot of sense considering subtle ways that her narcissistic qualities and flawless self-image are fed by different events and her overall treatment in Stars Hollow.
Especially with the way infidelity was normalized for her, like when Lorelai encouraged her to lie to Dean about her kiss with Tristan, Lorelai cheating with Chris on Sherry, having no real consequences for cheating on Dean with Jess, learning that her grandparents became a couple while Richard was already dating Pennelyn Lot, and then later learning that he’s been cheating on Emily with Pennelyn, not to mention Paris cheating on Jamie with Asher (both of which happened not long before Rory cheated w Dean, and then started cheating on Dean when she met Logan)!
It’ll never not be wild to me that she broke up a marriage only to start emotionally cheating w someone else right after and no one ever said “hey, u might wanna slow down..”
This video is so validating like omg someone else saw that shockingly there are a lot of breadcrumbs in the original series that lead to her being a weirdo in the revival!
Thanks for writing that down! While I still don’t think anything if what she did there was okay, I understand it a better now. I was honestly really shocked by how she broke up Dean’s marriage, but I guess I should have seen it coming…
Now that you point it out, there is a lot of cheating! Except I don’t think Richard ever cheated on Emily with Pennylin Lot. They only ever had lunches together (assuming Richard was telling the truth) to catch up. I wouldn’t say that’s cheating, she was just a friend at that point.
Revival season 2:
Paul dumps Rory after finding out she’s pregnant. Logan thinks the baby might be his but we eventually find out it’s not and belongs to the Wookie, who she’s unable to track down because it was an anonymous one night stand. Logan’s wife and their parents find out about him and Rory and he’s threatened with the possibility of being kicked out of the company so he finally drops Rory for good. Lorelei and Emily have a real talk and realize that they have coddled Rory and decide to offer emotional support, but she’s cut off financially. Rory, still the entitled girl, blows a couple more job interviews because she thinks it’ll be given to her and earns a bad reputation due to the entitlement. She has to find a job because Lorelei is charging her rent (she has to move back home). She gets a regular smegular job like everyone else and starts to get humbled when she’s fired for not doing good enough work. She doesn’t have the drive or fire that her mom had so she’s just stagnant in life and Luke hires her out of pity and because Lorelei asked. Season wraps up with a high school reunion. Rory is too embarrassed to go to the Chilton reunion, so she goes to the public school reunion that she used to attend in Season 1, thinking that they can’t be doing better than her…But they are. The kids that she thought she was better than are well rounded adults, happy with their lives and relatively successful (think business owners, realtors, teachers, one is a journalist for a paper, etc). The final scene, Rory is working at Luke’s pouring coffee and the camera fades out into an aerial shot of Stars Hollow.
Pretty dark tho, it would be too devastating to watch.
I really wish the revival covered more of the early post-yale scenes. For some reason, I had hoped they would at least flashback to the 'post Obama Campaign first job' time period that probably had her riding high for a bit, especially if she was still financially comfortable. Was she able to find a second job right away? Was she more open to jobs not related to her field? Or even her desired writing genre? I have entirely too many questions. Rory and Lorelai are such fascinating characters for me to look at. In some ways, they mirror my mother and I. But, they also help as a guidepost of maybe things I would do differently with my own child. That's what I find so fascinating about analysis videos. People find something to connect to in the media they enjoy and sometimes that can be a useful thing
Next Revival: Rory saves that dying local paper with a huge journalistic piece about a nearby plant/business being corrupt and harming Stars Hollow. Rory saves the day and grows successful/famous, as a result of being humble and helping the town of her roots instead of chasing after wanting to be the next Christiane Amanpour.
There's this saying called " good intentions but bad ideas" I think both Lorilai and Emily had them both but in different ways.
There was times where Emily had it right, like when rory started Yale and she wanted her to have a party to introduce her to new boys. The party was weird. Yes. But there intentions were in the right place because her life was going passed what Dean could give her, especially because that was after the cheating scandal. They'd it in the wrong way but there was always a hint of truth.
I don't think it's her upbringing that led to the final scene.
She wasn't a teenager who had sex the first time and got pregnant. Rory at that point should have been grown up in a way taking responsibility for the life choices she made. Not only is she still acting like a spoiled child, but has no morals. Sleeping with a married dean and later with an engaged Logan. Her career: basing it on a book of more or less her mother's life without her consent...not ok. And why would being a teacher so bad ? Bc she felt offended be offered a "low" job. No, without the pink glasses of the TV series, I don't like Rory anymore.
I think once Rory was in college living on her own. Lorelai shouldn't be a reason life didn't go as planned. During that time rory made her own choices and mistakes. I was actually in favor of her dropping out of yale given how shaken to her core she was after the Mitchum situation which made alot of sense to me. I just wish rory had gotten the chance to figure out who she was outside of the bubble she was placed in during those 6 month.
my favorite Jess scene is from the revival: when ve looks at Rory through the window of her house also when he tells her: i know you better than anyone
9:38 when asked what I would do if the show was taken off Netflix my first thought was buy dvds. Then I remebered there were actually some at the thrift store the other day. Then I realized there was really no need as I can rent them from the library. Public libraries for the win!
Gilmore Girls is near and dear to my heart. When it premiered, I had just graduated from college, and was on my own. I was smack in the middle of Rory and Lorelei. For years I would watch and rewatch as new seasons came out, and never liked some of the decisions that Rory made. But it was when she stopped talking to Lorelei, quite Yale, and became a full dependent of her grandparents that it really hit me. Rory is exactly what Richard and Emily wanted Lorelei to be - a stuck-up, entitled rich socialite. Once Rory got a taste of rich elitism, she embraced it. Rory “fit” in Stars Hollow afterwards because of Lorelei, and that’s it. I really loved hearing your perspective that she changed solely with the involvement of her grandparents. I agree.
I love the Gilmore girls series. My teenage daughter and I started Watched it together.
Omg I recently pointed out the ballerina review vs Mitchum criticism hypocrisy! Thank you for mentioning this! You’re right on all points here! Rory started out mature and ended up…not mature in the Revival.
Tbh, I do think she didn't really want to be a journalist she just said "I just want to see something" when asked why she wanted to be like amanpour... Hence she failed in the revival and mitchum was right
And honestly you don't have to go to a prep school to go to Yale or do all that to be a journalist lol. And the fact that she had that Yale stuff as a smaller kid is odd. Even Lorelei admitted "ever since she was going I wanted her to go to Yale"- so I think her mom probably planted that early because she used to want to go as Richard revealed.
Her background was always going to set her up to fail rather than one exact moment
I also think the Lorelai, even though it hurts her deeply to not be emotionally attuned by her mother, she gets the advantage of seeing her from an outside perspective and not liking her back and not liking her values... where else
Rory was well liked in the upper community as well, so it isn't obvious to her.
Rory is an overachiever not a gifted child.
I can't watch this yet, but I'm excited to and it's in my watch later!! I love talking about this subject. Had to like and comment real quick to support the vid 🤷♀️
Tysmm! This was very sweet
If Netflix was taking my favorite show off its platform...I'd go buy it on DVD. 😆
Rory worked so hard, plus she has all the money in the world if she wanted too. Yeah that can make a person a bit intitled, but those are character flaws, they do not break rory
You always nail it!
And i think how you get into something is a huge factor to how you will behave while you are there. I think Rory changed when she's in yale because of how she got in. she's accustomed to it now.
Neither she dropping out of school and then later who she become came as a surprise to me. I agree with everything you said but I find it pretty obvious.
I never put it together before how much Rory changed after having more influence from and exposure to hrt grandparents. But YOU’RE TOTALLY RIGHT! How did I not see it. I loved the first few seasons. But after season 4, Rory was insufferable. The miniseries was (for me) unwatchable. You made so many excellent points in this video. ❤
And i think she took her mother's experience at a very surface level of understanding, like doing her own thing by quitting yale because she's an adult and her mother chose to do her own thing when she was young as well, so she thinks that they are on the same playing field... but her mother's reason was to be an individual and grow from the prison that is her family, she wants to build something for herself, where as Rory's reason was to hide from her own necessary growth.
I feel like the best way that ppl learn is through pain. All of her flaws were rug sweep she never paid for the consequences of her actions. She was spoil and coddle
I think the revival should not have happened. The humor aged badly, Rory feels like she did not really live and I also don't really believe she could blow through her trustfund without her grandparents giving her a hard time. That said, if I had to have written the revival, I'd make Rory's downward spiral a bit more believable and think about the life she had and how it shaped her over the years. It would have been a more intesting story to find out what happened to her over the years. The plot itself (being broke, being entitled with no job) was ok, but not delivered very believeable. WHY is she broke? WHY so entitled? That would have been interesting to explore and write.
I saw a fan theory that ‘Gilmore girls’ is the book Rory wrote and AYITL is how Rory really was. It’s the only way I can get behind AYITL change of Rory
It's interesting to me as a fan since before the revival to think about how as a fandom, our view on season 7 has changed to be much more positive since the revival (also personally, to ME the revival is not canon - I really think Rory's S7 ending is 1000x better than revival Rory.)
Thanks for the video! I couldn’t agree more with these comments. In addition, I keep thinking about the talk Paris and Rory had about Rory being valedictorian at Chilton. I don’t know if the statistics Paris spouted were true, but whether done purposely or not, it was odd that Rory was on her way to becoming one of those statistic at the beginning of Year in the Life.
Rory is horrible, guys. I mean, think about it: who doesn't even have the least bit of empathy to understand that sleeping with both married Dean and engaged Logan is wrong and it hurts (and destroys) the other person? Would you do that in real life? And you're right, Kierra. That scene where she was yelled at by Lindsey's mother for destroying her marriage didn't register to Rory. She didn't learn anything from it. I LOVE Lorelei but I think she made the huge mistake of letting Rory too be too close to her grandparents which led to her downfall (lack of empathy, entitlement, arrogant behavior, feeling superior in general, etc).
her grandparents get blamed for behavior that was already there rory from day one of the show was a brat who had a I'm better then everyone and know everything attitude covered up with a fake shes so sweet Persona yeah she was a teenager at the time who grew more into this attitude as she grew up she never learned anything because lorelai protected her from lessons of life her grandparents and ties to that world didn't help but she always was going to be this person the sighs where there already
I don't get how rory was broke when she had Richard's trust fund!
at this point i wouldn't include Rory as much in the revival. the reason i wanted to see a revival was Lorelei and luke ending up together but ofc rory had to sleep with another married man and continue to fail ( that sounded harsh but i just finshed the show and the revaival and i hate her charecters downfall and im still heartnbroken)
to my view, that's only because it wasn't the same people who write the script
Also why does no one ever talk about Rory daddy issues i mean Christopher wasn't there for most of her life and when sherry got pregnant you could clearly tell that she was affected by the fact he was gonna have a replacement daughter. Plus her having daddy issues would explain her Cheating and staying with guys although they treat her like crap and I think that the reason lorerali treated her like a god sometimes was to make up for the fact that she didn't have a real father figure (other than luke)
I haven't finished the vid, but you have my favorite theme song on UA-cam
The argument is always that she dropped out. And that breaks her character? Are you aware that you need conflict in a story? Taking a gap semester is ok. Especially if someone that strikes a similar look to your grandfather tells you you suck without any reason... she's not perfect but who is?
Also the ballerina thing. She felt guilty afterwards and I think it was ment to show that she secrefices her own belives for the job. Wich isn't good but clearly goal oriented. Something that is claimed to be one of her best attributes
Rory had sympathy for others as long as she's not treated the same way. I think her change in character is good for the storyline... people who excel in the world do not excel merely for merit alone, and she wanted to go up the ladder fast because she was the smart one in the family... but once she realize that she's not treated in that special way and you cannot go by merit alone, she is okay with exercising her privilege while also identifying with being a working girl like her mother. But I also feel bad for her because she also played that emotional supporter role with Lorelai, she's a bit of a parentified kid as well in her childhood and the mediator between her mother and grandmother and that will do a number on you... so yeah
i love your videos kierra! by the time rory got to college, she was honestly quite unbearable to me. part of me always loves rory and i love her relationship with logan throughout college (team logan for rory but team jess as my favorite boy). but the larger part of me can’t stand the decisions she made into her adult life ( i hated the revival) and how entitled she tended to be. the whole dropping out of yale arc was awful. everyone around her coddled her even when she was in her 30’s! they acted as if she was a queen and it was definitely not good for her development into adulthood. i do agree she definitely experienced some gifted child syndrome as a gifted child myself. it can be exhausting with all the expectations, but let’s not ignore her very very very large flaws. sorry if i don’t make a whole lot of sense, just spilling my thoughts
I think if she kept Emily and Richard out of her life maybe... just maybe rory wouldn't have turned out like that. Because lorelai would straight up tell her when she was doing something wrong
I agree that Lorelai going to her folks for the $ to send Rory to Chilton was not a good choice and to me it doesn't even seem to make sense for Lorelai to have done that given her history with that kind of lifestyle...but what would the show have been without colliding those two "lives of Lorelai"?
i think it would have been interesting if season 7 ended with Rory telling her mom she was pregnant after rejecting Logan’s proposal and having to balance motherhood and a career. that way when the revival came around we could see how she handled it all esp parenting. was she more like Lorelei or Emily? was she able to maintain a career? relationships? i dunno just my opinion lol
i def think rory was so used to everyone being to impressed by her that when she was no longer the perfect girl she felt she couldn’t do it anymore and they wouldn’t support her
Rory was always rude, way before the ballet/ballerina article. She messed with Michele and was disrespectful to him from the very beginning, season one, from the first time they're shown together. She also steals from the inn, with Lorelei agreeing with it.
Hi :) thank you for the video !
I agree with what you said just one thing I wanted to add, I guess you mentioned in other videos. I think Rory is like Emily: she is smart, intelligent, she is even snobbish at some points (that we can see while her being in Chilton and Yale and how is reflected on her relationship with Dean), she likes to be part of that rich world (hanging out with Logan and Death Life Brigade and I even thought about her being a bit pragmatic and sticking to Logan because of his father's newspaper power). Rory was reflection of the expectations of her being special at Stars Hollow and the family and she was pressured by that too much, which, as you said, resulted into overheat (basically, she enjoyed doing nothing at some point when she dropped Yale). She did what people expected her to do and when she wanted to change her path(thinking of other career while break in Yale), they insisted.
Logan/Mitchum and Jess were the ones to point that maybe being reporter as Christine Amanpour is too much for her. Jess pointed to her about writing a book, as saw she fits that world more. She rejected the local small newspaper, cause she thought it would not fit everybody's expectations and her status " special ". I think that's why we see her broken at some point in the "year of life", cause she didn't follow her path, but what she was expected to do.
And I think this was too much for her to be in two worlds at the same time: Stars Hollow and Rich world and that affected her as well, since her identity was divided.
earlyyy and ofc a another amazing vid ❤
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When I first watched Gilmore Girls, When i saw Rory in S1 she was like my idol, she was like the perfect student always having good grades and always studying. But when she got that bob cut, i felt like that was her downfall- or her going in yale. I never expected her to be in yale instead of harvard.
You may not be a shrink but you insight into Rory is really on point/
Just in 2022 I watched the entire serie 5x…. Am I normal? 😅
I think the “ dropping out of Yale “ plot line was poor not because she dropped out but the writing made it look like going back and catching up was going to be done ver just a few weeks .. no problem barely an inconvenience...
The downfall of Rory began when their grandparents beginning to involved in her life…
yeah what happens to her is actually realistic since all of this happens is she's too sheltered.
I have watched Gilmore Girls over and over again this fall season and I finally realized why I don't like Rory....
She doesn't like stinky cheese!! I cannot trust a person who doesn't love the best kinds of cheese!
Sure there is some blame on Lorelai but noooo the way Rory turned out is all Rory. You have money, parents, education, friends, the internet YET you still turned out the way you did. It sucks because we all hoped better for Rory ESPECIALLY after she made the decision to not marry the guy she would still end up hooking up with behind the back of her boyfriend. Just a lot of potential and passion wasted and for what?