It struck me within the first five minutes that Rory was 32, the same age as her mother in the first episode in the first season. Her mother, who at age 32, had single handedly raised a 16 year old child accepted to a prestigious private academy, owned her own home, ran an entire business and planning to start her own inn, was in college at night also, was heavily involved and respected in her community, and even had a far more respectable love life complete with commitment and decent men who committed to her too. I found how they wrote adult Rory so disappointing, especially compared to her still striving and acheiving mother...and how well that mother raised her.
they should have made rory the way she was supposed to be.. in the end of the original show she was going on a tour with the president and had just graduated yale.
I never liked the way that Lorelai rode Logan's ass for being fed with a silver spoon, when, in truth, Rory was just as spoiled and entitled -and it shows in the way they portrayed her as an adult. I always felt like Rory just expected things to work out in her favor (even when she disregards someone's feelings) and when they didn't, she just whined the entire time.
Really? I now that i've rewatched everything is very racist. She's not colorful and dynamic she's the actor I hate in the show. Rude, callous, racist, and selfish
@@isabellalockwood5858 Oh she was always portrayed as racist. That was the whole point. But in the revival although she clearly still has problems she is one of the few characters that finally starts to grow. Meanwhile we get the hard reality of what small towns do to many people in the rest the characters. The whole point the revival was too show the other side of the fantasy of small towns and more generally the destruction of the 90s fantasy world.
@@isabellalockwood5858 but she treats her new maid and her family as family. They even move with her to Nantucket. The entire family. Kids and all. She is incredibly patient with them despite not knowing what she's saying or cooking or doing 90% of the time.
@@lindsayspates8907 i totally thought the same thing! id call her ignorant (and condescending in the original GG to all of her maids and anyone she deemed was below her aka who worked for her) more than anything. and instead of pressing for where berta was from she chose to stay in her ignorance but still managed to take care of them at the same time? it was really interesting to watch emily on the reboot
@@chloex2835 my favorite Emily moment was when she cried, "BULLSHIT" at the DAR interview and then quit. It was a beautiful moment. And I loved watching that trophy wife get burned. "And that dress didn't help!"
yes!! it was so wonderful. and seeing how she took care of berta and showed such compassion to her children was so beautiful. it was amazing for emily’s growth
Honestly I feel like they destroyed Rory’s character, Lorelai and Luke’s relationship was so lackluster, where the heck was Jackson?? I was quite unhappy with the reboot.
If a character is written off in a remake it probably means that the actor died or didn't want to do it. I imagine Suki is only in one scene too because she'd be much more expensive to hire than what she was when they made the show as her career has taken off since then.
Paris called it on senior picture day back at Chilton, when she said she reseached the history of valedictorians and found them to not be doing so well in life.
How about the general lack of happinesss... The original show is cheerful and puts you in a good mood. The revival is bleak. Also, teenage Rory would be disgusted by adult Rory. Not even the same person.
I didn't mind Emily's transformation as much because it looked as though she were able to find some peace outside of just being Richards wife. She found her own path and I feel like we got a little closure to her story. Rory was extremely pathetic all four episodes. She was less mature than she was when the series ended.
Tammy I feel like that was done on purpose though... Rory was always praised on how grown up and mature she was as a teenager, it serves that she would have taken that to heart a lot and stayed at that "mature" mindset, making it easy for her peers to outgrow her in return. It also adds in a little bit of the "child prodigy" phenomenon, where extremely smart children and teenagers tend to grow up to become mediocre adults. It fits that the adult Rory is lost and mixed up and didn't live up to her full potential; she was so smart as a teenager that she never really picked a direction and stuck to it. She was told she could do anything and kind of cracked under the pressure of that. Now she's scrambling to fix her life and decide what she really wants to do, one mistake after another.
Let’s be honest that entire Netflix revival was shit. But sometimes things don’t work out and to be quite frank Rory has always been a bit selfish in her thought process especially with da boooyyyyyyzzz
@@shawnvagnier5107 her friendship with Lane pissed me off the most. There were even those filler episodes where Lane is like "you're not paying attention to me" to try and make up for it. I didn't bother finishing the revival; I couldn't handle it.
You’re telling me Rory, a Yale graduate and valedictorian from her HS prep Chilton, was too stupid to remember her boyfriend’s name and to break up with him for two whole years? And I expected her to hit some speed bumps along the way, but get back on track like she always did and make things happen. I watched once and cannot ever watch again it was so bad.
Pam Darone What I found problematic wasn't that she forgot to break up with Paul but that she regarded him with such disdain. The way she treated the poor man was bordering on sociopathic.
It's also just super weird that she spends a good solid portion of the series taking advantage of her privilege but then she like throws it all away just to fail hard post college. She was insanely in love with Logan and clearly still is?? But wouldn't accept his proposal nor his connections to getting a good job. Newsflash, that is how high profile jobs work. She had LITERALLY EVERYTHING handed to her from day one and she still threw it all away and wants sympathy? Seriously?
True, altough I always thought that the main reason he said that was because she spent most time of her internship kissing his behind, which was really cringeworthy to watch.
How about the fact that Jess was in the revival for all of five minutes and he made EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE better, but got absolutely no credit whatsoever. We didn't get to find out about anything that he's been doing these past years and you know the whole looking longingly through the window at Rory... yeah we needed more of Jess!!
I wasn't a fan of Jess in the original show but the little we did see I liked until he was seen looking at her through the window in what I guess was supposed to be a pining way. By that point, I thought he deserved better than her.
I'm not sure what I think of him fawning over her...she definitely doesn't deserve him, and yet, I immediately began crying when he looked through the window like that. I don't know.
I was so upset because she has always been a little brat but he loves her and she should have grown up and realized it because he certainly did. He talked her into going back to college and got no credit or appreciation for it and he also came up with the idea to write the book and instead of getting credit, he got hate from Lorelai. Jess deserves better than her but if he wants her then he should have her because he brings out the beet in her.
When Logan "cheated" on Rory with the bridesmaids she was inconsolable and wouldn't even speak to him, but when she slept with Dean when he was married that was okay. And sleeping with Logan while he is engaged to someone else is ok. I think our perfect princess Rory has always been on the selfish side. We were just blinded by the town's devotion to her. BTW I love the show. I think Rory got tossed into the real world where everything she did wasn't automatically perfect.
Nail on the head Plus people put their favorite characters on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong and no one wants to watch a show where the main character is selfish and has a terrible personality so they block it out.
@@whutdafeq1715 because Logan is not the reason she is the way she is lmao. She was a cheater b4 she got with him, was selfish, couldn’t take criticism , and didn’t want to admit that she had it easy. Logan is not at fault. He was a good boyfriend
her grandparents are rich, her mom is literally the best, the whole town constantly praises her- she had every opportunity in the world. she was so loved by everybody but she truly only looked out for herself. throughout the whole show, people would make so many sacrifices for HER and what'd she do with it? absolutely nothing
Are you kidding? She got the best GPA at the best high school in the country, she worked her ass off at Yale, she participated in her community throughout her entire life, she took care of her friends and family when they needed her, she helped Obama with his campaign run and presumably had a short career as a freelance journalist and then returned to Stars Hollow and wrote an entire book about her life. How is that nothing? The people who are upset with the revival have the same ridiculously unrealistic standards for her that she grew up with, when she had every right to pursue her own life path.
Rory dumped Dean for Jess who was awful (at that time anyway), had an affair with Dean, was friends w Benefits with Logan, ran to Jess and kissed him while she was with Logan... why are we surprised the girl is a mess? Not to mention her entitlement and whining while she was a teenager. People change, but not much. She was always going to be this way.
Right?? I didn’t understand why so many people thought so highly of her character (earlier in the show).. She was so annoying and selfish. Every decision she made was based on her own selfish instincts.
Seville Jabeen Yeah, that’s when I started to really dislike Rory. I was so confused though, so many people loved the idea of her and Jess and didn’t really mind that she CHEATED on Dean. I was soooo upset when her and Jess were starting to become a thing.
This is the best comment in the thread. Because it couldn't be more true. When the life and death brigade came to "save" Rory, I thought it was a dream for like 15 minutes, I was waiting for her to wake up. Very odd.
Not sure if you are aware but the actor who played Richard passed away in 2014 before these episodes were made. I'm glad they didn't try sticking another actor in his role.
my friend proposed the theory that the main show, gilmore girls is rory's book in tv show format and that she glorifies some of the events of her life and that the revival is their real life, which is why the characters in the revival are kind of different
that explains why lane got like 3minutes for her in the show. in s2 lane joines the school Cheerleaders bc Rory spent all her time with dean and she was feeling alone
acuyuta I thought the same thing but it felt similar as when they opened the Stars Hollow History Museum on the original Show and the Audiovisual show started, I felt like it made reference to that.
Literally the worst ending I could have EVER imagined. Even the last damned scene was of the girls being shocked, not smiling. We don't even get to see an actual wedding or who Rory ends up with. So beyond disappointing.
I think the problem with the revival was that it wasn't really a revival. It was the final season Amy Palladino originally wanted. Why else would these characters still be stuck where they were? Rory turned down Logan's proposal yet 10 years later she's helping him cheat on his fiance? It was nice to see the characters again but the whole thing was very badly done.
Britney Blaird that’s true, I remembered her character so differently but have been watching the series with my daughter and at least once every episode I feel the need to point out that she is not a good person, she could be, she wants to be (I think?) but her selfishness always pops up in the end. It’s super evident with how she handles the Tristen thing and especially when it comes to Jess..that’s as far as we are at the moment.
Omg this is so true. It really just dragged on and on and on!! I kept thinking "wtf is going on....why are we still watching this???" And it went absolutely nowhere. There was no point to it at all.
Tbh that is the only time i hated lorelai. She knew her turn was coming and couldnt even think one memory about her father. Emily was rightfully pissed at her.
@@poppygloria4835 I hated her when she married Chris also. She just did it just to finally get married! As if it didn't matter who she marries as long ss she marries someone.
Yes yes yes!!! I'm rewatching the show for the 4th time and even tho she is "traumatized" because apparently her parents were so bad, years had past, their relationship improved somehow and she insists on being disrespectful. I hate how she continously treats them as the enemy, not giving them a chance.
I agree. Even in the last episode of season 7, they have a beautiful moment where he told her she must be an amazing human being. They were both in tears.
Rory bombing her interviews really bothered me. She's a college educated woman and couldn't come up with any answer better than, "because I want it," when asked why she should be hired for the job. Wtf, Rory. Hardworking rory who wouldn't take no for an answer when she wanted her newspaper job back while she was at yale, couldn't get hired by people who actually wanted her.
Because Rory is entitled. She has a degree from Yale and she wrote a few pieces that got exposure; and she let it get to her head because everyone has told her in her life that she is "special". Not surprised about how she turned out
Honestly, she didn't want those jobs. Remember, Jess reminding Rory about passion and trying to find it and she mocks, but is actually serious when she says, "What is that foreign concept you speak of, passion, is that really a thing?" She didn't realize it yet, but she had lost her love for reporting. She isn't someone who can lie easily on spot, so of course. And also she was probably subconsciously forgetting to be prepared if she's truly lost her love for reporting...that's just her, if she's not passionate about her work it is hard for her to jump back up.
I think she had her best times while being at Chilton and Yale. She had all the support of glorious and super witty Lorelei, she had everything she wanted. No one is going to appreciate her more than Lorelei and her character is unable to develop a really deep relationship with anyone other than her mom. I am not surprised she wants to write a book about those times. At this point I think having such strong connection with Lorelei actually blocked her social skills with other people.
in the end, the revival proved that Logan's father WAS right. she doesnt have what it takes to be a good reporter... [the scene where she interviews the people in line, cmon. I am younger than her, am also a journalist, and would never, ever, ever, do shitty questions like that..]
@@jennrocchi6385 the rhythm was off. I always said GG was very musical in a way. The dialog always seemed chaotic but there was a beat and rhythm to it. A Year in the life seemed like a bunch of people doing impressions of characters.
i think the writers knew they were a hit too much and gave up. It didn't match the other seasons not one ep even. It was relying on the props too much and was too iconic border line felt like production was mocking it but the lines weren't great either so felt like writers too not taking it serious it shouldn't have been done. Perhaps just a catch up on Emily's life.
also the camera was different and done differently the movements were what you see in reality tv confused the viewer on what they were watching a reality tv show or gilmore girls because all the characters are the same it just feels different.
I HATED what they did to EMILY....She might have mellowed a bit but NEVER EVER to that extent.... The producers just copied her character in the series BUN HEADS....!!!
I actually thought Lorelai’s reaction to Rory wanting to write a memoir about them was in character. She’s always been touchy about her upbringing and I can’t imagine her wanting that in black and white. Rory had the nerve to throw a tantrum when she didn’t even bother to consider Lorelai’s feelings. There were a few times in the original show where Rory ignored her Mother’s wishes when it came to her parents. This isn’t surprising because Rory has always been a bit spoiled and her Mother rarely says no or objects to what she wants. The book was advice she took from Jess who has a history of being careless with people’s feelings, including Rory’s. She’s been having a hard time finding work and she found no issue using her Mother’s story to make a buck. She can’t write a memoir without including Lorelai because there would be no story. Rory’s life is not really memorable; she hasn’t had a life yet.
Although I disagree that we should be oppressed from telling a story about our own lives just because it includes other people. She should've focused on her own side of it as Lorelai said but then again I actually thought Lorelai would be flattered and so happy that her daughter praises her so much that she'd want to write her story of triumph! I found it shockingly arrogant that she was offended and like... Way narcissistic in the fear of exposure. She needs to stop hiding and being worried what her parents think and just live.
That's exactly it, Rory felt entitled to tell Lorelai's story as her own. Plus with so many other people that'd be referenced Lorelai was completely right to be upset and not want that in an actual book form. Even the way she's structured the story to start with Lorelai leaving her parents says it all. Throughout the show, the writers have hinted at Rory kinda wanting to be Lorelai or even thinking she is Lorelai. So Lorelai's experiences are hers. Rory isn't a complete person on her own, and she's regressed completely. It may not be a happy ending but I like that the writer didn't shy away from showing that actually Rory is a bit weak, book smart but not the smartest, and very indecisive.
If you think about it, Rory was never even that great in the original series either. Couldnt handle five classes at Yale even though she never really needed a job, dropped out of Yale after one piece of criticism (something journalists get a lot of)... She was always pretty thin skinned for someone who wanted to a journalist.
she was a really awful person all along and wasn't that special and the fact that everyone praised her for doing the bare minimum was so annoying to me. and what happened in the revival is really what she had coming after all those years of having everything handed to her and being a mediocre and average person who just happened to have wealthy relatives.
ie, Rory changed so much and actually became worse.. I hate her character's development. I loved the Rory x Jess couple but seriously he deserves someone better.
Actually, laura, she had the affair with the married man BEFORE she met Logan and her attitude started then. It was when she left for college -- a full year before she met Logan.
No, I think she became a spoiled brat after Jess got into the picture. Not saying that she is a total brat when Jess and her dated, but she did cheat on Dean, and I still think Dean never figured out about that. I mean she skipped her mother's graduation!! Rory! And worst part, I don't think Lorelei ever punished her for anything she did. She never took punishment. I also hate the fact that Rory never owned up to any of her mistakes! None of them. I just felt like her character went backwards instead of forwards
laura marrero fabian that makes sense! All these amazing boys were falling for her and it was so easy for her to pull on strings for them to bow to her! I've never understood why! Dean was the perfect first boyfriend. He was loyal. Jess was a great bad boy and shared interests with her! Logan is the perfect rich guy I think we all once had crushes about. He was a good guy and Rory brought out the best in him, but was the bad guy, because he challenged her
why did they even add that scene tristan didn't graduate from chilton there's no reason for him to be there. esp when chad michael murray isn't playing him.
I didn't understood at all why Luke and Lorelei never talked in 9-10 years about children or marriage again as these were huge topics in general in the whole series. It makes no sense that this was never a topic between them in all this time. I expected a child/children and/or a wedding anniversary maybe and Rorys Marriage for example, with a complete new but handsome guy. I think I need to reed fanfictions :-)
I agree! Luke and Lorelai told each other even before they were together that they both wanted children if they found the right person. Also when Luke and Lorelai were finally together and Luke told her about buying the Twikham house, they talk about kids, He tells her he thought it would be a great house for their kids if thats what she wanted and she told him kids would be great. They really slacked in some aspects of the writing of this revival.
Marriage? 😂 These two are baby mamas and can't live with men. Seriously, though, any man who would marry either one of them is a simp. Luke is King Simp who Lorelai treats like a passing interest.
The whole musical scene from start to finish was actually 18 minutes long, I timed it because I was shocked at how long it went on for. I included the whole amount of time they spent in miss Patti's talking about it as well as watching it. 18 minutes devoted to something that really has no bearing on the show seems like such a waste.
I'm a massive fan of musicals and I love Christian Borle and Sutton Foster... but man was that whole musical shtick a drag (it genuinely felt like it would never end)
I didn't like the musical either, but I think it is typical Stars Hollow. Taylor Dosse was always trying to have new events in the town to bring in tourists and tourism dollars, like the Twickenham Museum, changi6the street names, the Festival of Art(?), the maze, etc.
I don't know, but when i watch the "old" series, i feel good and powerful, when i watched the first episodes of this revival, i just felt old and depressed...sorry, the thought was good, but some things just need to come to an end, period...
it really is full circle. that jess rory logan storyline is exactly as lorelai chris and luke. in the series finale i thought rory broke it by following her dreams but the revival ruined it.
@@msmarsi009 the revival ruined her chance to be Rory but it also ruined her chance to be lorelai too. i mean she's 32 and has done nothing with her life unlike lorelai. i think her character could only be saved if she decides that she's not going to be a single mother.
The only way it would be “full circle” is if Rory was still really young. But 32 isn’t exactly “OMG what am I going to do? I’m gonna be a mother! My life is over” age.
The general vibe of a year in the life was so disappointing. Gilmore girls always felt happy and almost warm, if that makes sense, but The new series felt cold and distant. They should've given more 90's/00's nostalgia because realistically that's what a year in the life was made for. Poeple wanted to see them again and go back, but it wasn't the same.
The four episode hour and a half format was a large part of it. Game of Thrones had the same problem when episode numbers got reduced. It brought out the weaknesses that were always there in both series. They just became more noticeable in the different way the writing works. Its why movies aren't as good as TV. Think about the fact that both shows had movie length episodes in comparison to their earlier shows and seasons.
Cold and distant, perfectly said, ( kind of like running into someone you haven't seen in a while but wanted to avoid.) the vibe was sooooo bad, soooo cold, in a show that has always been warm and cozy and a safe place. 🐻
I got that vibe too. I feel like a lot of it had to do with the color tones in the show and also the camera movements/angles. The cinematography just wasn't the same, it was modernized in a way. I wish they wouldn't have done that
They say the best revenge is living a good life, and I'm glad Dean got to tell Rori about his good life. Nice work Dean. She broke your heart twice but you still came out the winner. 👏🏼
Sarah Jean he broke up with her because she was being a horrible person. first he said he loved her and she didn’t say it back so obviously he would be upset and not want to be with her. the second time she didn’t like him anymore and was just stringing him along. she flirted with jess every time she saw him and it was obvious that she had a crush on him and was done with dean. so yes, dean broke up with her, but for very good reasons.
he broke up with her both times bc she was treating him like shit and stringing him along, and she was too weak and unbothered to do the right thing and end the relationship.
It doesn't matter that Rory is pregnant. Almost poignant. But what we don't LIKE is HOW and that it quickly ended after the final four words were spoken.
Emily became the most magnificent BAMF, it was a pleasure to watch. And there were some really great Lorali / Emily moments too (short lived, but nice!)
Same, I also hated how she was just letting a nanny raise her kids, when she clearly resented her parents in the original series for doing that to her.
Yeah! That was like the awful theme that ASP seemed to want for the revival for some reason-that everything is full circa and every girl ends up like her mum: Rory gets pregnant at a bad time in her life, lane is still living in SH working for Kim's Antiques and Paris lets her nanny raise her children while she puts her children through hell over her messy divorce. Why was she so hell bent on having such a depressing ending for the show!
You know I never really thought about it but that is even more frustrating. She isn't promoting learning from your parents mistakes but instead turning out just like your mother. There are a lot of kids who don't end up just like their parents.
I totally would love if they made a show about Emily. I'd LOVE to watch about her younger years, such as college-life, leading up to having Lorelai. She stole Richard away from his then-fiancée, Pennilyn Lott, and Richard's mother HATES her with a passion. Emily is such a perfectionist, and always gets her way. My favorite thing about watching Emily is when she starts opening up and showing vulnerability, but she realizes it, and snaps back into boss-bitch-mode. She's manipulative, demanding, controlling, and doesn't let anyone phase her. I'd say she's the best part of the revival who TRULY received a perfect closed chapter.
Linda Orwoll me too.. now she's pregnant and essentially it could be one of 3 guys I didn't think she was that girl.. I really wanted get to get back together with Jason.. I'm guessing Jason is supposed to be like Luke and Logan is supposed to be like Christopher..
All seasons lead to us thinking Rory was going to be a success, but it seems to me script writers got lazy and just scrambled together four episodes because of the demand of the fans. I know Stars Hollow is fantasy, but still you’d think the writers would have had more consideration for the fans. Very disappointing!!!
She's meant to have growth. If she's prefect then they're can be no development. But she might be pregnant with another couples baby, using Paris' company. It might even be Luke and Lorali's, there might be a surprise they chose not to show the audience.
Hayley Boo Yes She has to grow and be her own woman but with every episode up until this last season showing us That Rory’s life was going to be different from her moms, they could have had different difficult story lines to show her growing into a young woman and not ending up yet another single mother ( or ending up in a marriage she maybe didn’t want!) but everyone seemed to have completely different personalities & opinions this time around I suppose anything was possible, all I can say is I was VERY DISAPPOINTED, Kelly Bishop was the only one I enjoyed watching this time around!
One of the things I liked *most* about the revival was how consistent Rory's character was with the original and the natural progression of consequences that followed. I don't get why this video insists that her character changed somehow. She's always been entitled. She's always cheated on her boyfriends. She's always been able to adjust her moral compass to whatever suits her. She's a brat.
Or the way she reacted on what logan's father told her. The old rory would prove him wrong, and work even harder but she just become so offended, because she thought that everybody in her life will praise her or be nice to her because she is 'gilmore' and everybody should love her like they did so far, don't get me wrong i do not hate her but she did become entitled
I think what people dislike about it the most is that she's so talented and bright and privileged- and yet she ends up adrift. It doesn't fit the narrative we are taught in childhood and it scares people that they could be Rory. Plus cheating doesn't sit well with most people, even if it is part of her character
I do have to say, I think Richard's death took a huge toll on Rory. She was successful, writing for the New Yorker and traveling overseas for work before he died, then after his death she just wasn't the same. I think his death impacted her and she's flailing without her guidepost. As much as her mom means to her, her grandfather was always the beacon she followed. He always supported her. Rory is lost without him. Emily grew and was able to learn to live without him, but never forgetting him. That's why Rory chooses to write in her grandfathers study. she needs him. I think they will get Rory back on track with the book she's writing and the baby. Which I believe will be a boy named Richard.
I saw that too, everyone lost their way after Richard's death. But maternity and a new career as a writter as the new grown up Rory. And Jess as Rory's Luke.
yeah.. it will be exciting id rory has a baby boy.. after all the gilmore girls... emily lorlei and rory.. it would nice to shift the focus on a boy raised by these women...
I honestly think the whole show is just how Lorelai and Rory see the world... Do whatever they want, leave a trail of fire behind them, take no one else’s feelings into consideration and always find a way to justify down bad behavior. This revival solidified that...
Thats true. I love Luke and Lorelei together and always wanted them be a couple, but I also saw that Luke's wishes were never important. Always Lorelei got what she wanted... the house, the bed, his company at the town meetings/events (she never joined a camping trip), the marriage date..
also the whole scene with the life and death brigade picking up rory was completely unrealistic and didn't feel like it belonged in the series, it was just weird (and not in a gilmore girls way)
MrBOYcore I'm so torn about this part. I think the life and death brigade deserved a place in the revival but agree that it was totally unreal. I kinda thought it was a dream for a while there.
Yeah I agree with LadyG Nails. It needed it but at the same time the way they did it was just...weird and unrealistic. I thought it was a dream too! :/
MrBOYcore and that's the best part of it. That's what the life and death Brigade is and I love every bit of it. And I think it was the best part of the Revival and brought back so many memories
I actually loved that scene. Life and Death Brigade was always part of another world. And it also was her Goodbye to Logan. So it needed to be something to remember, something remarkable.
Is it just me or did anyone else hate Rory for most of the revival episodes and some of the time in Gilmore Girls? Around the time she when to college she acted like everything should fall in place for her and she would talk behind the backs of anyone who was prettier. Rory acted like she was just a nice innocent girl when she would write horrible pieces about other people, she also cheated multiple times either with someone she was with or she would be the other girl. Anyone else miss the Chilton Rory?
I've never really thought about why but my favourite seasons are when Rory is still in high school and maybe a little bit of her first year or two of college. Maybe it just got to dramatic and contrived. I think it was at the point when Rory dropped out of Yale and was living with her Grandparents that I hated it the most but then again I think we were supposed to.
I assume Revival Rory was supposed to represent all the self-involved, narcissistic and entitled millennial brats we read of repeatedly. Otherwise, I don't see the point of her character.
my main issue was the change in pace and cinematography, clearly the characters were also missing their original charm but the fact that they didn't attempt to follow in the footsteps of the original is such a shame
3 kids another on the way yes he and a wife did better then anyone on the show for the 3 Mins he was on. I am happy about what they did it was short but sweet at the same time and anyway Jared had too get back too his other job he has been doing for 12 seasons now so there is that.
tbh every time I read Dean I just picture Jensen Ackles, but then I have to remember the Video is about Gilmore Girls and not Supernatural and that Jared is Dean instead of Sam.
I still wish Rory chose Dean because he did everything right for her, he is more "husband material" than Logan or Jess. Although, Jess is the character that has evolved & changed the most. He is more mature & wiser now. I love that he respects Luke more & he cares more about what Rory wants. In the earlier seasons, he was bratty, disrespectful, impulsive & only cared about his own needs. He wanted Rory to drop out of Yale & run away with him, not caring that she would be leaving behind her own dreams & her mom. I was so happy that Rory stood her ground with him.I always knew Dean would be married regardless of whether he ended up with Rory or not. He really was a good guy (minus the Lindsay infidelity debacle.)
Nikka Rose I was thinking they was perfect together too but the way it ending kind of sucks. So how they did it with Dean moving on with his life was great he has a family that he wanted and poor Rory her life is going to be messed up and I think Logan is the father of her baby but I do not think he is going too marry her because he was with another woman so Rory is going to be a single parent and that is sad.
I agree with you, but I didn't want Dean and Rory to be togheter... as you said Dean did everything for her, just like in Rory's whole life she got everything without doing a thing for them - I guess that's why she became what she is now. She was spoiled!
I didn't think Rory's entitlement was out of character. Starting from her 2nd year of college (basically when she started dating Logan), she started getting very entitled. This was totally a natural progression actually. Still disappointing to see her that way though.
Christina Gmiterko totally agree. I saw her start to change as early as the third season. She just started to become a spoiled brat but started to get so much worse once she went to Yale.
I love Logan but I totally agree as soon as they started dating she started changing and being rude to her mother!! they were so close and she was so mean to her it didn't make any sense to me
I hated seeing her being Logan's mistress and having his baby- did she learn NOTHING from her mother???? Lorelei would have never wanted Rory to have to be a single mother- it's just how life ended up for her....even though they made it alright. But Rory is not her mother and is definitely the more co-dependant type which is fine if she would admit it. I don't like Logan and her together personally but I do think if this is where she was going to end up it would have been way better for everyone if she had just married him.
The biggest thing I did not like about the revival was Logan's story. He was completely in love with Rory and in Season 7 you really saw him grow up from an entitled boy to a more responsible man. He broke away from his father and the business and set out on his own. He never would have been engaged to someone he didn't love and have Rory on the side. He would not have worked for his father's company. ASP just made him into an asshole to make Jess look better, and that's not fair. I know she didn't write Season 7, but she should have paid more attention to what happened.
ASP, didn't write season 7..She had no part in it. So, his development in that season never was where she wanted that character to go. That isn't what she invisioned. Ergo it's almost like season 7 doesn't count.
I totally agree! It made me angry that she never watched season seven because there was character développement and storylines totally ignored ! And I am always team Logan! So it was hard to watch :(
Kadian Gordon but we need to remember that Rory refuse to marry Logan... he tried the best he could to build a life for both of them outside his family, but she rejected his proposal so it makes sense for him to align with his family as the years passed by. She had her chance to make a life with him, but as with anything else, she chose to go the unhappy way
4:07 shes speaking spanish and Rory should know it. She was speaking to one of the maids in Spanish while she lived with her grandparents and started helping the maid a little as they spoke right before her grandmother walked in and asked Rory if the maid asked her to help.
It seems like an oddly harder to understand form of Spanish for some reason? But you're right, the scene where Rory speaks Spanish with the maid in the original series is one of my favorites. It seems like they sort of lost that cool, unpretentious vibe in the revival.
Native Spanish speaker here. That's a Spanish-like language, but not proper Spanish. It has a lot of Mexican slang elements though. But it's not an actual language and that's the whole joke.
@@ElCharolin It may not have been the writers' intent (I doubt that it was) but in the revival it just feels like Rory is being slightly snobbish. Which I feel that the Rory of the original series would never do. However, Emily seemed to be more accepting and less judgmental in the revival which was kind of a nice change. I think what felt weird about it for me, was the way it was executed the second time around. It felt ambiguous as to whether Rory / the Girlmore Girls were "looking down" on the housekeeper for her way of speaking. For me it was better when Rory jumped in and spoke her best Spanish in the original and demonstrated that Emily's snobbery and xenophobic attitude was not cool.
It was nice in the original because she treated the help as real people. Also the actress is Latina of Argentinian descent. Emily was much better, I believe she was in Richard's shadow.
I tought pretty much everyone agreed that that whole musical storyline was terrible. Sutton Foster and Christian Borle are ALWAYS a welcome addition to anything, but the writers should have given them something better to work with (and less screen time tbh, we wanted to spend as much time as possible wit our beloved characters)
Alissa Gail it was so long my friend invited me over to watch with her and it became awkward cause we just sat their wondering if we should laugh or skip it
In less than ten years Paris went through four years of medical school, four years of OB-GYN residency, plus three more to become a reproductive subspecialist, then began practicing as a gynecologist, became a leading fertility doctor and also founded, owns and runs a surrogacy business that immediately grew into an international empire. How is this possible or am I the one who understood the wrong way?
my thoughts exactly. then I just decided to go with the ole suspension of belief/maybe I'm stupid, and just was happy one of them was doing something good for themselves even a little
I felt this was pretty on-brand for Paris, though. She was always a mover and shaker, going overboard to achieve her goals no matter what it took. She could've been exceptional and it took less time for her to get to where she was. She could've started on her breakthroughs/plans while studying and/or somehow the residency/subspecialist time was shortened cos she was just that good. idk but yeah I don't expect shows to stick to realistic timelines to the T especially for a side character. Plus didn't she say she also had an LLB and other stuff? I imagine she did a million things at the same time to achieve as much as possible. Very Paris.
Unlike Rory, Paris works her butt off and goes above and beyond to overachieve at everything she does. Not at all surprised by her success, or her divorce!
@@21crepes37 I agreed with Paris with this, but she also had two children while, I just thought it was all too much for Paris too, but I wrote this because I think the whole Revival was really undead on details.
Let me just say, the story of adult Rory, left me immensely DEPRESSED about myself. Yes myself! Becuz as a teenage girl i grew up looking upto Rorys character. And what did they do with her ? Left her without a career ! And no stable love life ! Rory was smart and sweet, her future shudnt have turned out this way !!!
S.Sarah same here. I looked up to her and Lane as strong women and to see them live just short of unspectacular lives was just sad. If there was no hope for them, the what hope should I hold on to.
I live in a little town like them and i see many girls just like them , with a great future ahead ended up doing things pr working is something i never expected :(
I agree with this but I think the worst one was we’re Lorelai couldn’t say anything nice about her father. I mean he paid for Rorys school and he brought her the doll house that her mom was gonna give away. She loved her dad and had a good connection with him. I just think that was truly dumb
I also thought it was so weird that in the series logan would literally drop everything for Rory and pretty much wouldn’t even let them break up because he loved her so much but then he wouldn’t break up with his fiancé to be with her? it made no sense
What everyone said , plus, I hated some of the lighting and make up. In some scenes Lauren Graham looks great, in others Lorelai looks older than Emily!
@@blueisgr8380 You have to wonder how this was not caught. If they did it on purpose then someone should have put their foot down. It completely ruined some of the scenes
My main problem with the revival was since it was written for the original series 10 years ago most of the plot didn't make sense for what it probably should have been. For example Logan and Rory still sleeping together? I feel that they wouldn't still be seeing each other 10 years after their breakup. The revival just seemed off and I think the characters would have developed differently in 10 years.
darcy phillips Yes! I thought the same thing! this would have kind of made sense back then. It's like the writer finally got to do the episode she originally intended but it's lost us
darcy phillips my taughts exactly.. they really mislead us.. we should think of this like a year later.. not ten! at least rory's (without the Paul thing), logan's, Dean's, jess's, lorelai and Luke's storyline would make sense.. not so for lane's, paris's, sookie's, April's.. Emily's I loved.. Michel's was so so.. the musical I keep forwarding every time I have seen the revival.. it's just a mess!
I never realized this storyline was written to follow directly after the original show 10 years ago... that makes SO much more sense. That makes Rory's pregnancy SO much more meaningful, too. There's a huge difference between 30 year old Rory making a mess and getting pregnant... and Rory getting pregnant in college. That would change the entire context of the situation, given Lorelei got pregnant in highschool and Rory would've been practically a kid still like she was when she had her... 30s Rory getting pregnant was not that impactful?!
Top 10 things I hated about the revival : 10. The revival 9. The revival 8. The revival 7. The revival 6. The revival 5. The revival 4. The revival 3. The revival 2. The revival 1. The revival Oh and I forgot THE REVIVAL
The only good parts of the show was when jess comessss like yes jess we missed you. And when Luke and lorelie have their pre marriage thing. The rest was depressing
Hated it. After rematching the entire series again, I tried to follow up with the GG revival (watched once) and couldn't even make it through the 2nd episode again.
Even if there isn’t more episodes, we know what will happen with Rory. Jess will help and be their for her like Luke was and Logan will keep getting in the way like Chris
That is really interesting coz another parallel would be Logan shoving it in rory's face how she rejected his marriage proposal and an excuse for being a crappy dad like Christopher does
That's an interesting theory that I hadn't thought about. It does seem like we build up to a loop similar to Lorelai's trajectory. There are some slight differences, i.e. Logan actually knows how to be successful and actually does have money, and Jess--well, we don't know much about Jess at this point, but he is more inline with Rory compared to Luke and Lorelai's relationship...and Rory will have the priviledge of a mom who she has a good relationship with compared to Emily and Lorelai's relationship...but I supposed it is possible for history to repeat, regardless.
To be honest Rory has always had questionable judgement and morality, especially since she had an affair with Dean. I found her exceptionably terrible after she dropped out of university. I was not surprised by her crappy behaviour in the revival. The early seasons were the best.
There's an amazing UA-camr who breaks down where Rory became unsympathetic and I totally agree with their take. Think it's silver screen something or other
I think the question of Rory's lack of professionalism was actually answered very very well in the show. More than once Rory was told by her mother that she was used to everything falling in her lap. While Rory didn't let this go to her head as a teenager and college student, if things continued to work out this way for the next 9 years-especially with things like her New Yorker article-then it kinda makes sense that Rory might start to think a little more highly of herself. Furthermore, it was already well established from the beginning that she only wanted one job and wasn't taking anyone else very seriously, and this ties into her general arrogance in the revival. In general, I think it was well set up. You can hate it, but it still certainly makes sense.
Yeah, it actually happens to a lot of academically perfect kids. When they grow up, they can't handle the fact that hyper-idealism is a flaw and not a virtue as they grew up believing.
I get what you're saying but to me it still doesn't make sense. Rory might have been unfamiliar with academic failure which makes it difficult to handle when it happens but she had always been incredibly overprepared for everything, down to the last random school test. She even started to get less idealistic in the 7th season of the original series after Logan's dad told her she didn't have it. She stopped catastrophising one person's negative opinion and coped well as a journalist and editor at Yale. The fact that after spending 9 years in an admittedly competitive profession where she has even had some success she would be totally unprepared for that Condé Nast interview is incomprehensible. I get they tried to write Rory as less than perfect but she was just fundamentally inconsistent with the person we saw grow up in the original series. Not to mention the way she acted in her private life. I think the writers had no idea what to do with her, even though there was so much to work with. They could have made her react totally differently to the same situations and it would've been interesting to follow her development. This way when she says "I suck" at the end, I couldn't but agree with her.
I distinctly remember when Rory was feeling badly about the fallout with Lucy and was telling Richard about it. Richard encouraged Rory telling her something to the effect of that she was a person of "great character and heart." Seeing Rory in the revival made me think how disappointed he would have been with how she turned out with neither characteristic.
well, i think that the fact that Rory wasn't portrayed as a successful journalist gave some reality to her character. She was almost unreal in series as a teenager.
I appreciated that bit but the fact that she acts like being on the Gazette will be ok.....ashe would end up living at home until 60 or something lol. Her book wouldn't get her that far either in reality. Even if spectacular- it's her first book and it would take years to get as many copies out as she would need just to pay for her own place with a baby in tow. Maybe she gets financial help from her grandparents or Logan...but I guess we'll never know.
One of the things I hated was Lorelai's reaction to April needing money. While Rory was privileged in the retrospect that money was not an issue because she was spoilt by her Grandparents and Mother and apart from the DAR job after dropping out of Yale, Rory was not treated like "Oh she should get a job". April was not so fortunate in regards to money and jobs and opportunities being handed on a silver platter, plus Rory has a longer bond with Luke and he would not react saying "Oh, Rory should get a job" if she needed money. The way Lorelai reacted was as if April was lesser than Rory and that She is still not so accepting of April. Lorelai and Rory both treat April as if they merely tolerate her. Rory: Spoilt/'Golden Child'; April: Outsider/special treatment for Rory lesser treatment for April. Luke's reaction of "I'll take care of it" to Lorelai's hypocritical blasé unfazed "She should get a job" retort made me happy though, it's like he saw through her favouritism.
Krystal Rowan THIS. YES. I feel like every mom loves their kid so much that they think that they are these great, amazing people but in reality that can be blinding and come off as kinda annoying. Lorelai always thought Rory was the best of the best and was critical when it came to any other character who MIGHT seem like competition to her precious, perfect daughter. She did call her out when she thought she wasn’t doing the right thing, but for most of the show she acts like Rory is this gift from God and then tells Logan she wasn’t raised with a silver spoon in her mouth or something LMAO
Luke should have said something to Lorelei, considering her own 32 year old daughter was not working. Luke love his daughter as much as she loves hers, so he should have told her, her remark was uncalled for.
Also lorelai and rory always make fun of Paris or pass snide remarks abt her enthusiastic/ overwhelming nature but in truth she was the one who achieved immense success and spoiled brat rory is the only perfect and too good one in her mothers eyes rory is spoiled, cheater, a brat, whiny, irritating, and entitled bitchy girl all those praises went straight to her head!!! And lorelai looked sooo great in season 1 she was playing 32 Alexis looks 40 while playing 32
@@dr.iffatkhan5504 i'm really glad that Paris turned out to be successful because i feel like they (the producers idk) just didn't give a shit about her and kinda made her a little "crazy" just to show that Rory was better than her at the original show (don't know if you got what i mean but it really pisses me off)
That's not how I saw that. It was a continuation of Luke keeping April separate from Lorelai. That's was a large part of why they broke up. He knew about April for months before even telling Lorelai about her and then he never included Lorelai in anything he did with April. In the episode where they are discussing April and money, Lorelai offers to help financially and Luke says no....still keeping Lorelai separate from April after all those years.
I agree , a few other / or the same things I HATED about it : - why did Luke & Lorelei go backwards in their relationship? - sookie would have never left the INN - Rory is a terrible person with no morals, she really had a terrible glow down as a character - Why didn’t we get to see the wedding ?!? - WHERE YOU LEAD … or song was taken away from us ! - I could go in for days but I have to learn for my finals ( lol ) But in general , the revival feels crazy and is so trashy like the whole color theme and I get that it’s 2016 but people simply don’t change like this esp. Babette or Ms Patty who were older It feels like the writers didn’t even watch the original Gilmore girls series and just continued with something else
Unpopular opinion: I actually liked Lane's ending. She finally struck the balance between having a good relationship with her mother, her identity and her background with making her own independent choices where it mattered. Her working at Kim's antiques was just her finally becoming secure in the fact that her mother is a hard-working businesswoman and there's nothing wrong with that. It made a lot of sense from an immigrant standpoint because we all grew up irrationally hating everything associated with our parents and our heritage. You only learn to make your peace with it as an adult when you've made your independent decisions and you find that what your parents did actually made a lot of sense. I loved that her ending captured that realism.
i honoustly felt the same way, pivoting on something lane said either toward the end of season 7 or in the revival "i tried so hard to win your love and affection mama, but it seems like no matter how hard i try i just can't". i think that struck a cord for both of them, allowing lane to see the value of her mothers strictness and for mrs. kim to see that maybe she had been a little too strict sometimes. allowing the love that had always been there between them could blossom.
@@whutdafeq1715 I agree! She even thought it was weird she was going hiking. She just needed time to think by herself. She figured out what she wanted on that hiking trip: marrying Luke. She also figured out the best memory with her dad. Rip Richard. Rip Edward Herrmann. You shall be missed. 💔
For me, the worst part by far was the injustice they did to Lane's character. She was vivacious and ambitious and all the series gave her was a lazy, kind of dumb, boyfriend and two children. It honestly just felt like a tragedy, and all I was hoping for was for Lane to achieve her dreams despite adversity, but we did not get to see that at all. I know "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree", but this character had to struggle with a lot and the show doesn't even comment on the disappointing nature of her storyline. Also the lack of discussion about abortion in the series despite the absurd amount of unplanned pregnancies is a bit scary, I would've liked to see Lane at least consider it.
I've heard the actor for Lane wasn't well during filming so she couldn't do as big a role as they'd planned. That's no guaruntee she would have had satisfying stage time (plus, surely her absense could be way more easily explained by being on tour with her cool band) but, that's what somewhat appeased me over Lane's poor treatment
TheMoonunit96 ITA, was so disappointed the last season with Lane’s story. I would have preferred they wrote her out of the show and she went off to conquer her dreams.
Lanes story was sad, but beyond realistic. She got pregnant..with twins. As moms do, she had to take a step back, she chose to be the mom. She also got married super young, that did happen first. Her life story didnt suprise me, its sad but I hate to say it was disappointing. Lots of moms go through that.
Awww I agree. Also they seemed to do that for most of the show- Rory is the "apple doesn't fall far.." in the most depressing ways- she's alone with a baby and basically jobless (Gazette and first book aren't going to make her a sufficient income- at least not for many years...) she had so much more opportunity than her mom did when she had Rory- she loved Logan and considered marrying him but now she's copying mom-for what? Lorelei wouldn't have even wanted that for her. The whole og series is about how they made it even though it WASN'T IDeal. :( Disappointing.
I didn't enjoy the revival AT ALL. And the saddest thing is that I think it's because it was so realistic... All the unfulfilled expectations, people changing in the way we wouldn't expect or like them to. That's exactly what happens in life and I didn't really expect to see real life on the show. I wanted to be uplifted and feel better, just like when watching the original show. I wanted romanticism, magic, love, and the smell of snow. Feel so sad after watching it:(
I had a die hard family member fan tell me the fan theory that the memoir Rory wrote was the regular season run of the show. And the Year in the Life was her real life. It explains why everything goes so well for her in the regular run, but nothing does in the revival. Now I’ll rewatch the show with that in mind for a while new take on it.
To be quite honest, I didn't enjoy the Revival very much. I only enjoyed Luke and Lorelai getting married. The things I didn't like were : 1. Rory was being very cruel and selfish. She was having sex with a man that was engaged to somebody else, all the while when she was also dating somebody. She didn't even care about how Logan's fiance would feel, she only cared about herself and what she wanted, so she slept with him anyway multiple times, despite knowing that he's engaged. She just didn't care. She didn't act like Rory from the original series, and it seems like her character development went down instead of up. Plus, She didn't even care about how rude she was being to Paul! She just wanted him to go away! 2. I didn't like that Jess wasn't in the show very much!! He deserved so much more than 3 scenes. I'm disappointed because I LOVE Jess, and I really wanted Jess and Rory to get together. 3. I HATE that Rory is pregnant. She's following exactly in her mother's footsteps and being just like she was when she was young. Rory and Lorelai are similar, but they don't have to be exactly the same. 4. The musical was a waste of time that stopped being funny after the first joke. Personally I think they just made it that long to fill space. 5. I think that Rory changed Logan and made him a better person in the original series! He was beginning to be much better than when we first met him, and that was because of Rory. But then in the revival it's like he went back to being that awful guy he was when we first met him. He cheated on his fiance and acted awful. His character development vanished. Overall, the Gilmore Girls revival was a big disappointment to me and I kind of wish it never happened because nothing good came out of it.
Rory lost her virginity with Dean who was married to another woman and Rory didn’t care. She slept multiple times with Logan who was engaged to another woman and didn’t care this time either. She also cheated on Dean with Jess. I see a pattern here...Rory not giving a shit about other people’s feelings.
Roxanne Gladu Have you watched the series? Rory felt AWFUL knowing she was "the other woman". She may have continued it but she clearly stated that she didn't like the feeling of knowing she was making someone unhappy. But here she is like "whatever".
Top three things I hated: 1) The Musical 2) Whatever that was with Christopher and Rory 3) Not having an actual wedding Don't get me wrong with #3, I LOVED the scene of them getting married and all of that, but I always wanted to see an actual wedding. I wanted that closure of Emily being able to see her daughter get married, and the whole town FINALLY seeing Luke get Lorelai
I know right! I was so disappointed that Emily didn't get to be there. Throughout the whole series you could see how Emily has always just wanted to be a part of Lorelai and Rory's life. It always made me sad how Lorelai would act towards her and would blame her for so many things when everything Emily did was of love and wanting to have a normal mother-daughter relationship. The fact that she wasn't even at the wedding was the high point for me. Poor Emily...
I am not sure why they felt they needed to add so many musical numbers to the revival since that is not how the original was. It didn't flow with the original series. The scene with Christopher and Rory was awkward although after finding out what was going on, at least some of the dialogue made sense. The wedding was incredibly disappointing. The dance and them running through the props were weird and I think that they should have had a true wedding so Emily and Sookie and Jess could have also attended. Sookie and Emily not being at Lorelai's wedding was awful. My fourth thing I hated was Rory's love life. She was sleeping with an engaged man, dating a man she didn't even remember his name and had a one night stand. I felt like instead of growing up and learning from her mistakes she was just doing the same thing and it made me not like her so much.
What I couldn’t figure out, is if Sookie was going to be leaving the Drogonfly permanently, why didn’t they write it in to the story that she sold her part of the business to Michel? He’s clearly discontent with his place in the business and professionally to the point that he wants to leave. Why wouldn’t he become an owner. That would feel like natural progression and a nice closure for him in the story.
I actually loved Rory's struggles with a job. Everybody several times in a life has a breakdown, where one acts completely opposite as one has in a character and is unprofessional. She was a prodigy her whole young life in a safe and controlled environment which is school. This is her major breakdown. If the series continues, I'm curious how she handles it.
Amy Sherman Paladino wanted to end the original series in a different way and wasn't allowed to, so she decided to destroy the revival! Luke and Lorelai lying to each other, Jesus. Horrible. Also no way the 2 of them would be seriously considering having a baby at 50, that was so out of character. ASP wanted Rory to be pregnant at 22 or however old she was at the end of the show.
Right? And if they had considered it, it would have been MUCH earlier in their TEN YEAR relationship! Also, why the hell did they wait ten years to get married when they had already been engaged once anyway?
Why wasn't Emily at Lorelai's wedding? That's really out of character, especially after we find out how much it means to her like when she finds out about the wedding to Max and eloping with Chris.
They were having a full wedding ceremony the next morning, which Emily was going to attend. It's fitting for Emily to not be present at the impromptu, intimate wedding, as she wasn't always supportive of the relationship. What I really find terrible is that Sookie wasn't present.
My thoughts exactly!!! This pissed me off so much. Somehow it was okay to wake up Lane and Michel (sp??) in the middle of the night but Emily wasn't??? Sure, she probably would've initially been put off by doing it that way, but she would've realized that Lorelai never does things "how she's supposed to." I'm sure she'd have felt so happy to finally see her only child get married!!!! Emily's arc was incredible and she changed in a positive way... and basically deserved so much better.
Emily was on Nantucket Island (was it Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard?). She wouldn't have been able to make it to Stars Hollow in an instant. Lane and Michel were the only ones in Stars Hollow at that time.
sunshaped That's what gets me. even if she wasn't there for the impromptu wedding, it didn't look like she have any plans of travelling - like attending the wedding the next day.
I was really mad about Rory's storyline. Is this the best the writers could do? Jess wrote a book and it got him nowhere, so now they want Rory to do the same? Rory went to some of the best schools, so she should at least be as successful as Paris. If Richard were alive he would be so disappointed. Speaking of Pairs, it seems that she is the only person that matured. Everyone else is stuck doing the same thing they were doing where season 7 left off. I was also mad that the death of Richard didn't bring Lorelia and her mother closer. If that can't then nothing will 😪WE NEED MORE EPISODES TO FIX THIS MESS. Don't get me started on Rory's love life... I'm team Logan, but the affair made no sense since she rejected his proposal. I hope there are more episodes to come.
Well, I agree but about Paris... actually she , a grown up woman, a mature woman that hids in the bathroom of her former school because she saw the boy she had a crush on in the high school. And she is almost 30. I mean... really? Plus, she treats her children like her mother has done with her and she has suffered a lot in the pat for that. Paris would never have done it.
conce I didn't mean it that way. I meant when season 7 ended we saw Paris graduate, ready to begin her life. On the revival we saw that she had kids, jobs and even looks mature. Although she divorced we saw that life went on for her. That can't be said for most of the other characters.I expected and wanted the revival to be like season 5 of One Tree Hill. Season 4 they all graduated and when season five returned it was a time jump, but the characters matured. Their lifes wasn't on pause. They had flashback scenes to fill us in on what we missed. Like why Peyton & Lucas wasn't together when the show returned and why Nathan was in such a dark place. The revival should've showed a flashback of Rory and Logan getting together after she turned down his proposal. They talked about them getting together but never got into detail about what was said. I would've loved to see what Rory said to Logan and how he took it. The writers of this revival should've took notes from the writers of One Tree Hill. Although OTH had a time jump from season 4 to 5 it still flowed so nicely together. Everything made sense.
the affair, while disappointing, is one of the few things that makes sense. history (aka past flames) tends to repeat itself, and rory and logan were always in love. she just wasn't ready to get married at 22. i honestly think that if logan had waited another year or 2 to propose she would have said yes. or, if she had gotten knocked up at the end of season 7, that there would be room for her to say yes at any point during the ten year interval and revival
The Gilmore Girls revival is so depressing - it’s the opposite of the funny/witty/inspirational stories in the original series. Too bad I can’t unsee it; it even ruins my mood to rewatch the original series.
i read about the theory that "gilmore girls" the show was actually the book that Rory eventually went on to write! which could be why the show was more idealized and why Rory was so different in the revival. Cause Rory wouldn't see herself as much of an immature, entitled, disrespectful, self absorbed person she was in the reboot.
it's so weird, like, Rory was such a role model in the earlier episodes, yeah she had her flaws but as a whole she was great. but in the revival i couldn't stand most of the scenes she was in. it's almost like Alexis changed too much to play the same character. also the character turned into such a hypocritical, whiny and immature person, she didn't take responsibility when she screwed up, and all she did in the revival was screw up. also, too many unanswered questions
You do realize that Rory and Jess are cousins right? People need to let go of the idea of them. The only reason Amy even wrote him in was to extend how long Lorelai and Luke would go w/o getting together.
Exactly! like...so they didn't grow up and change for the better in 10 years? although, that'd make Paris' storyline way too impossible (it's already pretty iffy)
It struck me within the first five minutes that Rory was 32, the same age as her mother in the first episode in the first season. Her mother, who at age 32, had single handedly raised a 16 year old child accepted to a prestigious private academy, owned her own home, ran an entire business and planning to start her own inn, was in college at night also, was heavily involved and respected in her community, and even had a far more respectable love life complete with commitment and decent men who committed to her too. I found how they wrote adult Rory so disappointing, especially compared to her still striving and acheiving mother...and how well that mother raised her.
Her mother had to achieve what she did, there isn't the same kind of pressure on Rory
Exactly.
they should have made rory the way she was supposed to be.. in the end of the original show she was going on a tour with the president and had just graduated yale.
And the fact Rory kept forgetting about that boyfriend of hers....it was just sad.
I never liked the way that Lorelai rode Logan's ass for being fed with a silver spoon, when, in truth, Rory was just as spoiled and entitled -and it shows in the way they portrayed her as an adult. I always felt like Rory just expected things to work out in her favor (even when she disregards someone's feelings) and when they didn't, she just whined the entire time.
the only thing I loved was Emily. she has really blossomed and become more colorful and very dynamic
Really? I now that i've rewatched everything is very racist. She's not colorful and dynamic she's the actor I hate in the show. Rude, callous, racist, and selfish
@@isabellalockwood5858 Oh she was always portrayed as racist. That was the whole point. But in the revival although she clearly still has problems she is one of the few characters that finally starts to grow. Meanwhile we get the hard reality of what small towns do to many people in the rest the characters. The whole point the revival was too show the other side of the fantasy of small towns and more generally the destruction of the 90s fantasy world.
@@isabellalockwood5858 but she treats her new maid and her family as family. They even move with her to Nantucket. The entire family. Kids and all. She is incredibly patient with them despite not knowing what she's saying or cooking or doing 90% of the time.
@@lindsayspates8907 i totally thought the same thing! id call her ignorant (and condescending in the original GG to all of her maids and anyone she deemed was below her aka who worked for her) more than anything. and instead of pressing for where berta was from she chose to stay in her ignorance but still managed to take care of them at the same time? it was really interesting to watch emily on the reboot
@@chloex2835 my favorite Emily moment was when she cried, "BULLSHIT" at the DAR interview and then quit. It was a beautiful moment. And I loved watching that trophy wife get burned. "And that dress didn't help!"
can we just talk abt the fact emily kept a maid for the WHOLE year...
yes!! it was so wonderful. and seeing how she took care of berta and showed such compassion to her children was so beautiful. it was amazing for emily’s growth
yeah that was kinda the point... to show her change
YAYYY
Insane, it has never happened before!
And let her keep her KIDS
Honestly I feel like they destroyed Rory’s character, Lorelai and Luke’s relationship was so lackluster, where the heck was Jackson?? I was quite unhappy with the reboot.
Then you weren't paying attention... He was there
If a character is written off in a remake it probably means that the actor died or didn't want to do it. I imagine Suki is only in one scene too because she'd be much more expensive to hire than what she was when they made the show as her career has taken off since then.
Jackson was in an episode, probably the summer one and Lorelai asked him where Sookie was.
@@Ritsukaberry Yes, but still, he and Sookie weren't "really" there.
Ehhhh, I felt like it was pretty reflective of Rory’s character all along. She was always pretty self absorbed and entitled.
Paris called it on senior picture day back at Chilton, when she said she reseached the history of valedictorians and found them to not be doing so well in life.
Yes. I always thought that was a telling sign.
@@anachitimus1292 Mitchum Huntzberger called it when he told her she didn't "have it." No one wanted that to be true but apparently, it was.
shit your abs right
Omg I was thinking the same thing. Perhaps they portrayed Rory like this to show the reality of what happens to most valedictorians.
@@mementomolly2944 but that doesn’t happen to most valedictorian yale attendees. This revival just didn’t make sense
How about the general lack of happinesss... The original show is cheerful and puts you in a good mood. The revival is bleak. Also, teenage Rory would be disgusted by adult Rory. Not even the same person.
I didn't mind Emily's transformation as much because it looked as though she were able to find some peace outside of just being Richards wife. She found her own path and I feel like we got a little closure to her story. Rory was extremely pathetic all four episodes. She was less mature than she was when the series ended.
Jessie Sings people change
Jessie Jackson Ummmmm, it's called growing up.
totally agree
Tammy I feel like that was done on purpose though... Rory was always praised on how grown up and mature she was as a teenager, it serves that she would have taken that to heart a lot and stayed at that "mature" mindset, making it easy for her peers to outgrow her in return. It also adds in a little bit of the "child prodigy" phenomenon, where extremely smart children and teenagers tend to grow up to become mediocre adults.
It fits that the adult Rory is lost and mixed up and didn't live up to her full potential; she was so smart as a teenager that she never really picked a direction and stuck to it. She was told she could do anything and kind of cracked under the pressure of that. Now she's scrambling to fix her life and decide what she really wants to do, one mistake after another.
Rory- "I'm so desperate. I can't find a job."
Dean at Chilton offers her a job
Rory- "Thanks. But no thanks."
Monte Amelia a career that requires a masters degree...
Let’s be honest that entire Netflix revival was shit. But sometimes things don’t work out and to be quite frank Rory has always been a bit selfish in her thought process especially with da boooyyyyyyzzz
@@shawnvagnier5107 her friendship with Lane pissed me off the most. There were even those filler episodes where Lane is like "you're not paying attention to me" to try and make up for it. I didn't bother finishing the revival; I couldn't handle it.
Well let’s just say the four words Amy wanted for the shows last line happened, and it was unfortunate
She needed to go back to school for her masters to teach @ Childon
You’re telling me Rory, a Yale graduate and valedictorian from her HS prep Chilton, was too stupid to remember her boyfriend’s name and to break up with him for two whole years? And I expected her to hit some speed bumps along the way, but get back on track like she always did and make things happen. I watched once and cannot ever watch again it was so bad.
Pam Darone What I found problematic wasn't that she forgot to break up with Paul but that she regarded him with such disdain. The way she treated the poor man was bordering on sociopathic.
It really did suck
100%
It's also just super weird that she spends a good solid portion of the series taking advantage of her privilege but then she like throws it all away just to fail hard post college. She was insanely in love with Logan and clearly still is?? But wouldn't accept his proposal nor his connections to getting a good job. Newsflash, that is how high profile jobs work. She had LITERALLY EVERYTHING handed to her from day one and she still threw it all away and wants sympathy? Seriously?
Book smarts don't give you common sense. It's one thing to study and memorize. Social skills don't always come with that deal.
Can we talk about the fact that Mitchum Huntzberger was right about Rory!
oh shit youre right
True, altough I always thought that the main reason he said that was because she spent most time of her internship kissing his behind, which was really cringeworthy to watch.
I thought about that as well. When her Grandfather was defending her like she made a boo boo
Omg. Your right
Yes, I thought the same
How about the fact that Jess was in the revival for all of five minutes and he made EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE better, but got absolutely no credit whatsoever. We didn't get to find out about anything that he's been doing these past years and you know the whole looking longingly through the window at Rory... yeah we needed more of Jess!!
Melody A. THIS!!!
Amen sister
I wasn't a fan of Jess in the original show but the little we did see I liked until he was seen looking at her through the window in what I guess was supposed to be a pining way. By that point, I thought he deserved better than her.
I'm not sure what I think of him fawning over her...she definitely doesn't deserve him, and yet, I immediately began crying when he looked through the window like that. I don't know.
I was so upset because she has always been a little brat but he loves her and she should have grown up and realized it because he certainly did. He talked her into going back to college and got no credit or appreciation for it and he also came up with the idea to write the book and instead of getting credit, he got hate from Lorelai. Jess deserves better than her but if he wants her then he should have her because he brings out the beet in her.
When Logan "cheated" on Rory with the bridesmaids she was inconsolable and wouldn't even speak to him, but when she slept with Dean when he was married that was okay. And sleeping with Logan while he is engaged to someone else is ok. I think our perfect princess Rory has always been on the selfish side. We were just blinded by the town's devotion to her. BTW I love the show. I think Rory got tossed into the real world where everything she did wasn't automatically perfect.
Nail on the head
Plus people put their favorite characters on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong and no one wants to watch a show where the main character is selfish and has a terrible personality so they block it out.
IVE SAID IT BEFORE AND ILL SAY IT AGAIN. JESS AND RORY DESERVED BETTER. did u see the way he looked at Rory out of the window???? HE STILL LOVES HER.
WHY IS EVERYONE HATING ON RORY SO MUCH AND NOT LOGAN FFS??
@@whutdafeq1715 because Logan is not the reason she is the way she is lmao. She was a cheater b4 she got with him, was selfish, couldn’t take criticism , and didn’t want to admit that she had it easy. Logan is not at fault. He was a good boyfriend
@@whutdafeq1715 Exactly that's why their comments are idiotic and I don't even pay attention to them
her grandparents are rich, her mom is literally the best, the whole town constantly praises her- she had every opportunity in the world. she was so loved by everybody but she truly only looked out for herself. throughout the whole show, people would make so many sacrifices for HER and what'd she do with it? absolutely nothing
I can't tell if that's profound or just really really depressing
I doubt the cast was thrilled with the script. It was such a letdown.
Are you kidding? She got the best GPA at the best high school in the country, she worked her ass off at Yale, she participated in her community throughout her entire life, she took care of her friends and family when they needed her, she helped Obama with his campaign run and presumably had a short career as a freelance journalist and then returned to Stars Hollow and wrote an entire book about her life. How is that nothing? The people who are upset with the revival have the same ridiculously unrealistic standards for her that she grew up with, when she had every right to pursue her own life path.
@@ania5038aeree.nand she took care also her mother
Did anyone noticed that Everyone aged except Christopher?
Olivia Dodge Taylor looks the same too
I don’t like his character but the man sure looks good!
There were more people that didn't age.. How about Logan's dad?! looks exactly the same!
exactly the comment I was looking for!
uh, aaaand michele!!!!
Rory dumped Dean for Jess who was awful (at that time anyway), had an affair with Dean, was friends w Benefits with Logan, ran to Jess and kissed him while she was with Logan... why are we surprised the girl is a mess? Not to mention her entitlement and whining while she was a teenager. People change, but not much. She was always going to be this way.
true that.
Right?? I didn’t understand why so many people thought so highly of her character (earlier in the show).. She was so annoying and selfish. Every decision she made was based on her own selfish instincts.
Yes you are right but I still love the show
@@teti9087 season 1 Rory, shy and nice was good. Her character went to hell the minute she cheated on Dean with Jess
Seville Jabeen Yeah, that’s when I started to really dislike Rory. I was so confused though, so many people loved the idea of her and Jess and didn’t really mind that she CHEATED on Dean. I was soooo upset when her and Jess were starting to become a thing.
The whole thing felt like an acid trip in an alternative Gilmore universe.
This is the best comment in the thread. Because it couldn't be more true. When the life and death brigade came to "save" Rory, I thought it was a dream for like 15 minutes, I was waiting for her to wake up. Very odd.
Exactly
Well I've never done acid so I wouldn't know about that
Neither have I, but I’ve seen Alice in Wonderland.
exactly lmaoo
Can we talk about how Richard never get to walk Lorelai down the aisle 💔
Not sure if you are aware but the actor who played Richard passed away in 2014 before these episodes were made. I'm glad they didn't try sticking another actor in his role.
😭😭😭😭
@@phishlady79 They could have had them marry off screen. It makes no sense that they hadn't been married yet.
my friend proposed the theory that the main show, gilmore girls is rory's book in tv show format and that she glorifies some of the events of her life and that the revival is their real life, which is why the characters in the revival are kind of different
So interesting i love this
Coll theory but definitely not what the show ACTUALLY is. Ha ha! You're better at writing then THEY are.
that explains why lane got like 3minutes for her in the show. in s2 lane joines the school Cheerleaders bc Rory spent all her time with dean and she was feeling alone
Makes sense since Rory is such a Mary Sue and if she wrote a book about her life I'd see her petty herself just too much sometimes
that is really depperessing. i think they should have left the show as it was and not made a year in life. it just ruined things.
I'll never understand why they spent so much time in that musical 🤦 it was awful
I ended up skipping through it after like 3 minutes. It was like they ran out of material and needed to fill the space.
Probably just an excuse to have sutton Foster on the show.
I feel like Amy felt like she owed something to the cast of bun heads
Same. Musical was really boring
acuyuta I thought the same thing but it felt similar as when they opened the Stars Hollow History Museum on the original Show and the Audiovisual show started, I felt like it made reference to that.
Literally the worst ending I could have EVER imagined. Even the last damned scene was of the girls being shocked, not smiling. We don't even get to see an actual wedding or who Rory ends up with. So beyond disappointing.
I think she would end up with Jess eventually because Jess is her Luke and Logan is her Chris
Agreed!
Maybe she end single. She is not able to have a healthy relation.
@@ddb777 which is soooo annoying and dumb! 😭
They didn’t even give us any clues that she was pregnant, we found out like it was out of the blue, and it was so random like an afterthought.
I think the problem with the revival was that it wasn't really a revival. It was the final season Amy Palladino originally wanted. Why else would these characters still be stuck where they were? Rory turned down Logan's proposal yet 10 years later she's helping him cheat on his fiance? It was nice to see the characters again but the whole thing was very badly done.
I don’t think Rory is acting out of character. She was always a bit entitled and spoiled and pretty much did what she wanted. She hasn’t changed.
She didn't start acting like an entitled bitch til season 5
Britney Blaird that’s true, I remembered her character so differently but have been watching the series with my daughter and at least once every episode I feel the need to point out that she is not a good person, she could be, she wants to be (I think?) but her selfishness always pops up in the end. It’s super evident with how she handles the Tristen thing and especially when it comes to Jess..that’s as far as we are at the moment.
I agree
That’s because Ms.Mojo is up Rory’s butt. In another list she made a guy one of the worst guys just because he rejected Rory. 🤦🏼♀️
Yeah, I was always annoyed that the show acted like they didn't see it in the original series.
Ugh, the Stars Hallow musical was a huge waste of precious screen minutes...
I KNOW IT WAS SO LONG
I watched A Year in the Life after premier and because of that shitty scene I didn´t finish watching till last week. ... agree huge waste of time
omg! yes. i literally fast forwarded. wtf?
I just skipped it 1 it was so long and 2 I got so much second hand embarrassment
I fast forwarded
The musical was only ten minutes, it felt like thirty
Omg this is so true. It really just dragged on and on and on!! I kept thinking "wtf is going on....why are we still watching this???" And it went absolutely nowhere. There was no point to it at all.
Raven Golston it was so painful, Christ.
I don't mind the musical but I think they should've just showed the first act and thats it.
I just skipped everything after the first 30 seconds... and it seems i did very good, since everybody is complaining about it!! LOL
I hit fast forward less than a minute in and it seemed like it was on fast forward for 10 minutes. The scene had to have lasted at least 30 minutes.
I think that Lorelai's OBNOXIOUSNESS at Richard's funeral totally deserved a mention. Like, WHAT WAS SHE THINKING?????
Tbh that is the only time i hated lorelai. She knew her turn was coming and couldnt even think one memory about her father. Emily was rightfully pissed at her.
@@poppygloria4835 I hated her when she married Chris also. She just did it just to finally get married! As if it didn't matter who she marries as long ss she marries someone.
Yes yes yes!!! I'm rewatching the show for the 4th time and even tho she is "traumatized" because apparently her parents were so bad, years had past, their relationship improved somehow and she insists on being disrespectful. I hate how she continously treats them as the enemy, not giving them a chance.
I agree. Even in the last episode of season 7, they have a beautiful moment where he told her she must be an amazing human being. They were both in tears.
@@1masivac did you see what her parents told chris season 5 and ruined luke and her relationship? lorelai can rightfully act that way.
Rory bombing her interviews really bothered me. She's a college educated woman and couldn't come up with any answer better than, "because I want it," when asked why she should be hired for the job. Wtf, Rory. Hardworking rory who wouldn't take no for an answer when she wanted her newspaper job back while she was at yale, couldn't get hired by people who actually wanted her.
it doesn't make sense to me either.
Because Rory is entitled. She has a degree from Yale and she wrote a few pieces that got exposure; and she let it get to her head because everyone has told her in her life that she is "special". Not surprised about how she turned out
Honestly, she didn't want those jobs. Remember, Jess reminding Rory about passion and trying to find it and she mocks, but is actually serious when she says, "What is that foreign concept you speak of, passion, is that really a thing?" She didn't realize it yet, but she had lost her love for reporting. She isn't someone who can lie easily on spot, so of course. And also she was probably subconsciously forgetting to be prepared if she's truly lost her love for reporting...that's just her, if she's not passionate about her work it is hard for her to jump back up.
I think she had her best times while being at Chilton and Yale. She had all the support of glorious and super witty Lorelei, she had everything she wanted. No one is going to appreciate her more than Lorelei and her character is unable to develop a really deep relationship with anyone other than her mom. I am not surprised she wants to write a book about those times. At this point I think having such strong connection with Lorelei actually blocked her social skills with other people.
in the end, the revival proved that Logan's father WAS right. she doesnt have what it takes to be a good reporter... [the scene where she interviews the people in line, cmon. I am younger than her, am also a journalist, and would never, ever, ever, do shitty questions like that..]
The acting was just forced, it wasn’t as naturally witty as even the 7th season, let alone the other 6.
something about Lauren Graham's acting felt really off, forced is a good word. whatever made Lorelai...Lorelai....was missing.
@@jennrocchi6385 the rhythm was off. I always said GG was very musical in a way. The dialog always seemed chaotic but there was a beat and rhythm to it. A Year in the life seemed like a bunch of people doing impressions of characters.
i think the writers knew they were a hit too much and gave up. It didn't match the other seasons not one ep even. It was relying on the props too much and was too iconic border line felt like production was mocking it but the lines weren't great either so felt like writers too not taking it serious it shouldn't have been done. Perhaps just a catch up on Emily's life.
also the camera was different and done differently the movements were what you see in reality tv confused the viewer on what they were watching a reality tv show or gilmore girls because all the characters are the same it just feels different.
@@jennrocchi6385 i agree :(
It all just felt like random crap with no purpose. A disservice to the original. Emily’s ending was the only decent one.
I HATED what they did to EMILY....She might have mellowed a bit but NEVER EVER to that extent.... The producers just copied her character in the series BUN HEADS....!!!
I actually thought Lorelai’s reaction to Rory wanting to write a memoir about them was in character. She’s always been touchy about her upbringing and I can’t imagine her wanting that in black and white. Rory had the nerve to throw a tantrum when she didn’t even bother to consider Lorelai’s feelings. There were a few times in the original show where Rory ignored her Mother’s wishes when it came to her parents. This isn’t surprising because Rory has always been a bit spoiled and her Mother rarely says no or objects to what she wants. The book was advice she took from Jess who has a history of being careless with people’s feelings, including Rory’s. She’s been having a hard time finding work and she found no issue using her Mother’s story to make a buck. She can’t write a memoir without including Lorelai because there would be no story. Rory’s life is not really memorable; she hasn’t had a life yet.
Same
Although I disagree that we should be oppressed from telling a story about our own lives just because it includes other people. She should've focused on her own side of it as Lorelai said but then again I actually thought Lorelai would be flattered and so happy that her daughter praises her so much that she'd want to write her story of triumph! I found it shockingly arrogant that she was offended and like... Way narcissistic in the fear of exposure. She needs to stop hiding and being worried what her parents think and just live.
@@DivinityinLove or she just values privacy
I agree with this take.
That's exactly it, Rory felt entitled to tell Lorelai's story as her own. Plus with so many other people that'd be referenced Lorelai was completely right to be upset and not want that in an actual book form. Even the way she's structured the story to start with Lorelai leaving her parents says it all.
Throughout the show, the writers have hinted at Rory kinda wanting to be Lorelai or even thinking she is Lorelai. So Lorelai's experiences are hers. Rory isn't a complete person on her own, and she's regressed completely. It may not be a happy ending but I like that the writer didn't shy away from showing that actually Rory is a bit weak, book smart but not the smartest, and very indecisive.
If you think about it, Rory was never even that great in the original series either. Couldnt handle five classes at Yale even though she never really needed a job, dropped out of Yale after one piece of criticism (something journalists get a lot of)... She was always pretty thin skinned for someone who wanted to a journalist.
Bri Yee-Sandoval exactly
everything you just said makes me angry on so many levels,
They played Logan's dad as the bad guy even though he was 100% in the right.
she was a really awful person all along and wasn't that special and the fact that everyone praised her for doing the bare minimum was so annoying to me. and what happened in the revival is really what she had coming after all those years of having everything handed to her and being a mediocre and average person who just happened to have wealthy relatives.
Yeah Rory was kind of annoying in the original series too. So IDK why everyone is suprised shes annoying here
Watching the revival just made me realize how much I couldn't stand Rory after she went off to college.
ie, Rory changed so much and actually became worse.. I hate her character's development. I loved the Rory x Jess couple but seriously he deserves someone better.
true she became a total brat once she left for college
Actually, laura, she had the affair with the married man BEFORE she met Logan and her attitude started then. It was when she left for college -- a full year before she met Logan.
No, I think she became a spoiled brat after Jess got into the picture. Not saying that she is a total brat when Jess and her dated, but she did cheat on Dean, and I still think Dean never figured out about that. I mean she skipped her mother's graduation!! Rory! And worst part, I don't think Lorelei ever punished her for anything she did. She never took punishment. I also hate the fact that Rory never owned up to any of her mistakes! None of them. I just felt like her character went backwards instead of forwards
laura marrero fabian that makes sense! All these amazing boys were falling for her and it was so easy for her to pull on strings for them to bow to her! I've never understood why! Dean was the perfect first boyfriend. He was loyal. Jess was a great bad boy and shared interests with her! Logan is the perfect rich guy I think we all once had crushes about. He was a good guy and Rory brought out the best in him, but was the bad guy, because he challenged her
I wanted tristan to have a real scene where they say “Hello” or at least something!
Possibly, because it was not the same actor.
They could have called Chad Michael Murray! He’s not expensive, plus he’s hawwwtt! I wish PROPER he had a scene
He probably made farther in life than she did. That would’ve been interesting to see.
NO ONE CAN REPLACE CHAD MICHAEL MURRAY THAT’S WHY
why did they even add that scene tristan didn't graduate from chilton there's no reason for him to be there. esp when chad michael murray isn't playing him.
I didn't understood at all why Luke and Lorelei never talked in 9-10 years about children or marriage again as these were huge topics in general in the whole series. It makes no sense that this was never a topic between them in all this time. I expected a child/children and/or a wedding anniversary maybe and Rorys Marriage for example, with a complete new but handsome guy. I think I need to reed fanfictions :-)
I agree! Luke and Lorelai told each other even before they were together that they both wanted children if they found the right person. Also when Luke and Lorelai were finally together and Luke told her about buying the Twikham house, they talk about kids, He tells her he thought it would be a great house for their kids if thats what she wanted and she told him kids would be great. They really slacked in some aspects of the writing of this revival.
Marriage? 😂
These two are baby mamas and can't live with men. Seriously, though, any man who would marry either one of them is a simp. Luke is King Simp who Lorelai treats like a passing interest.
The whole musical scene from start to finish was actually 18 minutes long, I timed it because I was shocked at how long it went on for. I included the whole amount of time they spent in miss Patti's talking about it as well as watching it. 18 minutes devoted to something that really has no bearing on the show seems like such a waste.
I thought the same thing!
I'm a massive fan of musicals and I love Christian Borle and Sutton Foster... but man was that whole musical shtick a drag (it genuinely felt like it would never end)
I KNOW I couldn't believe it. Would of been good to see her and Luke actually have a wedding,not the terrible musical.
I skipped that part tbh
Yes. I totally agree. I ended up fast forwarding it. So many other things could have happened and it just never did.
Yes, yes and yes. I was disgusted with Rory. The Wild storyline was dumb, and I hated the musical! It didn’t belong.
I didn't like the musical either, but I think it is typical Stars Hollow. Taylor Dosse was always trying to have new events in the town to bring in tourists and tourism dollars, like the Twickenham Museum, changi6the street names, the Festival of Art(?), the maze, etc.
I don't know, but when i watch the "old" series, i feel good and powerful, when i watched the first episodes of this revival, i just felt old and depressed...sorry, the thought was good, but some things just need to come to an end, period...
Oh my goodness, that's how I was feeling! I couldn't describe it at the time, but this is it.
Yes you've put what I felt into words!!!!!
There is no warmth, no nice music in the backgroung, no upbeat moments. It's just sad
Same
Very well put. That´s EXACTLY how I felt
some people say the last four words were a “full circle” but i think its just lazy writing
Right? And why should people live the same stories again and again?
it really is full circle. that jess rory logan storyline is exactly as lorelai chris and luke. in the series finale i thought rory broke it by following her dreams but the revival ruined it.
@@esrblgn exactly my thought. In the original series Lorelai wants Rory to become more. She should of become her own person.
@@msmarsi009 the revival ruined her chance to be Rory but it also ruined her chance to be lorelai too. i mean she's 32 and has done nothing with her life unlike lorelai. i think her character could only be saved if she decides that she's not going to be a single mother.
The only way it would be “full circle” is if Rory was still really young. But 32 isn’t exactly “OMG what am I going to do? I’m gonna be a mother! My life is over” age.
The general vibe of a year in the life was so disappointing. Gilmore girls always felt happy and almost warm, if that makes sense, but The new series felt cold and distant. They should've given more 90's/00's nostalgia because realistically that's what a year in the life was made for. Poeple wanted to see them again and go back, but it wasn't the same.
Jasmine Quin-Conroy you do realize Gilmore Girls wasn't in the 90's right
The four episode hour and a half format was a large part of it. Game of Thrones had the same problem when episode numbers got reduced. It brought out the weaknesses that were always there in both series. They just became more noticeable in the different way the writing works. Its why movies aren't as good as TV. Think about the fact that both shows had movie length episodes in comparison to their earlier shows and seasons.
Cold and distant, perfectly said, ( kind of like running into someone you haven't seen in a while but wanted to avoid.) the vibe was sooooo bad, soooo cold, in a show that has always been warm and cozy and a safe place. 🐻
I got that vibe too. I feel like a lot of it had to do with the color tones in the show and also the camera movements/angles. The cinematography just wasn't the same, it was modernized in a way. I wish they wouldn't have done that
@@o.dey_ And the big thing is that Sookie's voice changed, Lorelai became sad, and not very/so comedish, everything changed.
They say the best revenge is living a good life, and I'm glad Dean got to tell Rori about his good life. Nice work Dean. She broke your heart twice but you still came out the winner. 👏🏼
Dean broke up with her both times
Sarah Jean he broke up with her because she was being a horrible person. first he said he loved her and she didn’t say it back so obviously he would be upset and not want to be with her. the second time she didn’t like him anymore and was just stringing him along. she flirted with jess every time she saw him and it was obvious that she had a crush on him and was done with dean. so yes, dean broke up with her, but for very good reasons.
He was not a good person either, he was good in the first season but then he became toxic af and cheated on his wife and treat her life shit
Chiara Sanetti yeah i’m not denying that he wasn’t a good person but he was too good for rory in my opinion.
he broke up with her both times bc she was treating him like shit and stringing him along, and she was too weak and unbothered to do the right thing and end the relationship.
Am I the only one who pretends these episodes don’t exist, and leave the show as it ended in season 7?
IDK, but personally I didn't like season 7. Specifically, Lane's story line.
Season 7 doesnt even exist in my world, thank you very much
nope! it doesn't exist! what revival?
I stop partway through s. 6.
Nope. Sometimes I also pretend that this is a nightmare Rory is having.
Rory's pregnancy in the end is a homage to what Gilmore girls was. It means that history will repeat itself
It doesn't matter that Rory is pregnant. Almost poignant. But what we don't LIKE is HOW and that it quickly ended after the final four words were spoken.
Not likely. Rory is pro choice. She will abort
the only thing that i liked about the revival was emily's storyline
Abena Adu-Offeh Agreed! She was like the only character that actually had any development.
Abena Adu-Offeh yes I really liked her a lot more!
That was the most satisfying aspect, and the main reason I kept watching.
Abena Adu-Offeh AGREED!!!! Although Paris getting divorced made sense, I wish they'd flush that out.
Emily became the most magnificent BAMF, it was a pleasure to watch. And there were some really great Lorali / Emily moments too (short lived, but nice!)
can we talk ab the fact that it’s 2020 and we still don’t have answers to these questions
:(
We will soon!
Who is the father
We need closure!
@@jordanlayne_14 its definitely Logan
I also hated how Paris and Doyle were divorcing
Same, I also hated how she was just letting a nanny raise her kids, when she clearly resented her parents in the original series for doing that to her.
history repeats!
hope lafrance true
Yeah! That was like the awful theme that ASP seemed to want for the revival for some reason-that everything is full circa and every girl ends up like her mum: Rory gets pregnant at a bad time in her life, lane is still living in SH working for Kim's Antiques and Paris lets her nanny raise her children while she puts her children through hell over her messy divorce. Why was she so hell bent on having such a depressing ending for the show!
You know I never really thought about it but that is even more frustrating. She isn't promoting learning from your parents mistakes but instead turning out just like your mother. There are a lot of kids who don't end up just like their parents.
I totally would love if they made a show about Emily. I'd LOVE to watch about her younger years, such as college-life, leading up to having Lorelai. She stole Richard away from his then-fiancée, Pennilyn Lott, and Richard's mother HATES her with a passion. Emily is such a perfectionist, and always gets her way. My favorite thing about watching Emily is when she starts opening up and showing vulnerability, but she realizes it, and snaps back into boss-bitch-mode. She's manipulative, demanding, controlling, and doesn't let anyone phase her. I'd say she's the best part of the revival who TRULY received a perfect closed chapter.
Loved Emily's character development but was disgusted with Rory.
Linda Orwoll me too.. now she's pregnant and essentially it could be one of 3 guys I didn't think she was that girl.. I really wanted get to get back together with Jason.. I'm guessing Jason is supposed to be like Luke and Logan is supposed to be like Christopher..
All seasons lead to us thinking Rory was going to be a success, but it seems to me script writers got lazy and just scrambled together four episodes because of the demand of the fans. I know Stars Hollow is fantasy, but still you’d think the writers would have had more consideration for the fans. Very disappointing!!!
She's meant to have growth. If she's prefect then they're can be no development. But she might be pregnant with another couples baby, using Paris' company. It might even be Luke and Lorali's, there might be a surprise they chose not to show the audience.
Hayley Boo Yes She has to grow and be her own woman but with every episode up until this last season showing us That Rory’s life was going to be different from her moms, they could have had different difficult story lines to show her growing into a young woman and not ending up yet another single mother ( or ending up in a marriage she maybe didn’t want!) but everyone seemed to have completely different personalities & opinions this time around I suppose anything was possible, all I can say is I was VERY DISAPPOINTED, Kelly Bishop was the only one I enjoyed watching this time around!
I think you mean Jess lol...Rory never dated anyone named Jason. That was Lorelai and I didn't care for their whole fling.
One of the things I liked *most* about the revival was how consistent Rory's character was with the original and the natural progression of consequences that followed. I don't get why this video insists that her character changed somehow. She's always been entitled. She's always cheated on her boyfriends. She's always been able to adjust her moral compass to whatever suits her. She's a brat.
examples? explain? show your work? im honestly just curious
She kissed Tristan and jess while being in a relationship whith Dean, she cheated with Dean on his wife, she cheated on Logan with Jess
Or the way she reacted on what logan's father told her. The old rory would prove him wrong, and work even harder but she just become so offended, because she thought that everybody in her life will praise her or be nice to her because she is 'gilmore' and everybody should love her like they did so far, don't get me wrong i do not hate her but she did become entitled
I think what people dislike about it the most is that she's so talented and bright and privileged- and yet she ends up adrift. It doesn't fit the narrative we are taught in childhood and it scares people that they could be Rory. Plus cheating doesn't sit well with most people, even if it is part of her character
@@MsJubjubbird I wouldn't say writing a book and being a well respected journalist is adrift.
I do have to say, I think Richard's death took a huge toll on Rory. She was successful, writing for the New Yorker and traveling overseas for work before he died, then after his death she just wasn't the same. I think his death impacted her and she's flailing without her guidepost. As much as her mom means to her, her grandfather was always the beacon she followed. He always supported her. Rory is lost without him. Emily grew and was able to learn to live without him, but never forgetting him. That's why Rory chooses to write in her grandfathers study. she needs him. I think they will get Rory back on track with the book she's writing and the baby. Which I believe will be a boy named Richard.
I saw that too, everyone lost their way after Richard's death. But maternity and a new career as a writter as the new grown up Rory. And Jess as Rory's Luke.
yeah.. it will be exciting id rory has a baby boy.. after all the gilmore girls... emily lorlei and rory.. it would nice to shift the focus on a boy raised by these women...
Chills, darling, CHILLS!! I LOVE this concept
@@AnjaliKumari-np7sv Ooof, what could have been! I love this!
I LOVED Richard. I wish I had a grandfather like Richard.
I honestly think the whole show is just how Lorelai and Rory see the world... Do whatever they want, leave a trail of fire behind them, take no one else’s feelings into consideration and always find a way to justify down bad behavior. This revival solidified that...
Thats true. I love Luke and Lorelei together and always wanted them be a couple, but I also saw that Luke's wishes were never important. Always Lorelei got what she wanted... the house, the bed, his company at the town meetings/events (she never joined a camping trip), the marriage date..
also the whole scene with the life and death brigade picking up rory was completely unrealistic and didn't feel like it belonged in the series, it was just weird (and not in a gilmore girls way)
MrBOYcore I loved the life and death brigade. I cried actually through it cause it brought back so many things...including Logan who I love with Rori
MrBOYcore I'm so torn about this part. I think the life and death brigade deserved a place in the revival but agree that it was totally unreal. I kinda thought it was a dream for a while there.
Yeah I agree with LadyG Nails. It needed it but at the same time the way they did it was just...weird and unrealistic. I thought it was a dream too! :/
MrBOYcore and that's the best part of it. That's what the life and death Brigade is and I love every bit of it. And I think it was the best part of the Revival and brought back so many memories
I actually loved that scene. Life and Death Brigade was always part of another world. And it also was her Goodbye to Logan. So it needed to be something to remember, something remarkable.
Is it just me or did anyone else hate Rory for most of the revival episodes and some of the time in Gilmore Girls? Around the time she when to college she acted like everything should fall in place for her and she would talk behind the backs of anyone who was prettier. Rory acted like she was just a nice innocent girl when she would write horrible pieces about other people, she also cheated multiple times either with someone she was with or she would be the other girl. Anyone else miss the Chilton Rory?
I miss the Chilton Rory!
Amrit Sandhu I like to picture how her ending would've turned out had she not become such a jerk after going to college.
I've never really thought about why but my favourite seasons are when Rory is still in high school and maybe a little bit of her first year or two of college. Maybe it just got to dramatic and contrived. I think it was at the point when Rory dropped out of Yale and was living with her Grandparents that I hated it the most but then again I think we were supposed to.
I hated revival rory.
I assume Revival Rory was supposed to represent all the self-involved, narcissistic and entitled millennial brats we read of repeatedly. Otherwise, I don't see the point of her character.
And I would have thought that Lorelei & Luke had already got married. And had a baby already w/i the last 10 yrs.
my main issue was the change in pace and cinematography, clearly the characters were also missing their original charm but the fact that they didn't attempt to follow in the footsteps of the original is such a shame
At least Dean finally had a happy ending
3 kids another on the way yes he and a wife did better then anyone on the show for the 3 Mins he was on. I am happy about what they did it was short but sweet at the same time and anyway Jared had too get back too his other job he has been doing for 12 seasons now so there is that.
tbh every time I read Dean I just picture Jensen Ackles, but then I have to remember the Video is about Gilmore Girls and not Supernatural and that Jared is Dean instead of Sam.
I still wish Rory chose Dean because he did everything right for her, he is more "husband material" than Logan or Jess. Although, Jess is the character that has evolved & changed the most. He is more mature & wiser now. I love that he respects Luke more & he cares more about what Rory wants. In the earlier seasons, he was bratty, disrespectful, impulsive & only cared about his own needs. He wanted Rory to drop out of Yale & run away with him, not caring that she would be leaving behind her own dreams & her mom. I was so happy that Rory stood her ground with him.I always knew Dean would be married regardless of whether he ended up with Rory or not. He really was a good guy (minus the Lindsay infidelity debacle.)
Nikka Rose I was thinking they was perfect together too but the way it ending kind of sucks. So how they did it with Dean moving on with his life was great he has a family that he wanted and poor Rory her life is going to be messed up and I think Logan is the father of her baby but I do not think he is going too marry her because he was with another woman so Rory is going to be a single parent and that is sad.
I agree with you, but I didn't want Dean and Rory to be togheter... as you said Dean did everything for her, just like in Rory's whole life she got everything without doing a thing for them - I guess that's why she became what she is now. She was spoiled!
I didn't think Rory's entitlement was out of character. Starting from her 2nd year of college (basically when she started dating Logan), she started getting very entitled. This was totally a natural progression actually. Still disappointing to see her that way though.
Christina Gmiterko totally agree. I saw her start to change as early as the third season. She just started to become a spoiled brat but started to get so much worse once she went to Yale.
I love Logan but I totally agree as soon as they started dating she started changing and being rude to her mother!! they were so close and she was so mean to her it didn't make any sense to me
I don't even think it's her fault totally because everybody keeps praising her. All that praise has gone to her head.
I agree but I also am disappointed that they didn’t keep it as a phase or show some moment of realization of how entitled she had actually become.
I hated seeing her being Logan's mistress and having his baby- did she learn NOTHING from her mother???? Lorelei would have never wanted Rory to have to be a single mother- it's just how life ended up for her....even though they made it alright. But Rory is not her mother and is definitely the more co-dependant type which is fine if she would admit it. I don't like Logan and her together personally but I do think if this is where she was going to end up it would have been way better for everyone if she had just married him.
And Sookie why wasn't there at Lorelai's wedding?
They eloped one day before.. their wedding is on the next day but Lorelai wants to elope the night before thats why Rory was on her pajamas..
they didn't have that much money to pay another scene of melissa mccarthy
@@alondra5288 Actually it was because of her agenda... She had only one day to shoot all her scenes. We must be glad that she at least was there! :)
ikr?? Sookie would have been there no matter what.
plus she was doing a lot of movies.
I hope that if there is sequel, it starts with Lorelai or Rory waking up to find the whole "year in a life" series was just a terrible dream.
😂
The biggest thing I did not like about the revival was Logan's story. He was completely in love with Rory and in Season 7 you really saw him grow up from an entitled boy to a more responsible man. He broke away from his father and the business and set out on his own. He never would have been engaged to someone he didn't love and have Rory on the side. He would not have worked for his father's company. ASP just made him into an asshole to make Jess look better, and that's not fair. I know she didn't write Season 7, but she should have paid more attention to what happened.
Kadian Gordon Yes it made me so angry! He did a lot of growing up in the last season and it doesn't make sense he would back slide so much
Kadian Gordon totall y agree
ASP, didn't write season 7..She had no part in it. So, his development in that season never was where she wanted that character to go. That isn't what she invisioned. Ergo it's almost like season 7 doesn't count.
I totally agree! It made me angry that she never watched season seven because there was character développement and storylines totally ignored ! And I am always team Logan! So it was hard to watch :(
Kadian Gordon but we need to remember that Rory refuse to marry Logan... he tried the best he could to build a life for both of them outside his family, but she rejected his proposal so it makes sense for him to align with his family as the years passed by. She had her chance to make a life with him, but as with anything else, she chose to go the unhappy way
4:07 shes speaking spanish and Rory should know it. She was speaking to one of the maids in Spanish while she lived with her grandparents and started helping the maid a little as they spoke right before her grandmother walked in and asked Rory if the maid asked her to help.
It seems like an oddly harder to understand form of Spanish for some reason? But you're right, the scene where Rory speaks Spanish with the maid in the original series is one of my favorites. It seems like they sort of lost that cool, unpretentious vibe in the revival.
Native Spanish speaker here. That's a Spanish-like language, but not proper Spanish. It has a lot of Mexican slang elements though. But it's not an actual language and that's the whole joke.
@@ElCharolin It may not have been the writers' intent (I doubt that it was) but in the revival it just feels like Rory is being slightly snobbish. Which I feel that the Rory of the original series would never do. However, Emily seemed to be more accepting and less judgmental in the revival which was kind of a nice change. I think what felt weird about it for me, was the way it was executed the second time around. It felt ambiguous as to whether Rory / the Girlmore Girls were "looking down" on the housekeeper for her way of speaking. For me it was better when Rory jumped in and spoke her best Spanish in the original and demonstrated that Emily's snobbery and xenophobic attitude was not cool.
@@TruHolisticPathways It's like this coworker of mine when he speaks French. I know French and half the time I have no idea what he's saying lol
It was nice in the original because she treated the help as real people. Also the actress is Latina of Argentinian descent. Emily was much better, I believe she was in Richard's shadow.
Finally someone who agrees that the musical was awful! !!!
I know right. The musical was extremely awful. I wanted more of the Revival. That's what sucks.
I tought pretty much everyone agreed that that whole musical storyline was terrible. Sutton Foster and Christian Borle are ALWAYS a welcome addition to anything, but the writers should have given them something better to work with (and less screen time tbh, we wanted to spend as much time as possible wit our beloved characters)
Alissa Gail it was so long my friend invited me over to watch with her and it became awkward cause we just sat their wondering if we should laugh or skip it
i invited my friend over after like 2 min we skipped it
Alissa Gail thank god, I wasn't the only one who hated and skipped it
In less than ten years Paris went through four years of medical school, four years of OB-GYN residency, plus three more to become a reproductive subspecialist, then began practicing as a gynecologist, became a leading fertility doctor and also founded, owns and runs a surrogacy business that immediately grew into an international empire. How is this possible or am I the one who understood the wrong way?
my thoughts exactly. then I just decided to go with the ole suspension of belief/maybe I'm stupid, and just was happy one of them was doing something good for themselves even a little
I felt this was pretty on-brand for Paris, though. She was always a mover and shaker, going overboard to achieve her goals no matter what it took. She could've been exceptional and it took less time for her to get to where she was. She could've started on her breakthroughs/plans while studying and/or somehow the residency/subspecialist time was shortened cos she was just that good. idk but yeah I don't expect shows to stick to realistic timelines to the T especially for a side character. Plus didn't she say she also had an LLB and other stuff? I imagine she did a million things at the same time to achieve as much as possible. Very Paris.
Because it's Paris Geller!!!
Unlike Rory, Paris works her butt off and goes above and beyond to overachieve at everything she does. Not at all surprised by her success, or her divorce!
@@21crepes37 I agreed with Paris with this, but she also had two children while, I just thought it was all too much for Paris too, but I wrote this because I think the whole Revival was really undead on details.
I wanted to see Madeline and Louise, why weren't they at the reunion??? Their characters deserved it more than fake Tristan
princesseaem and I want to see Babette she's funny but Taylor if he wasn't a jackass I would love to see him
Let me just say, the story of adult Rory, left me immensely DEPRESSED about myself. Yes myself! Becuz as a teenage girl i grew up looking upto Rorys character. And what did they do with her ? Left her without a career ! And no stable love life ! Rory was smart and sweet, her future shudnt have turned out this way !!!
S.Sarah same here. I looked up to her and Lane as strong women and to see them live just short of unspectacular lives was just sad. If there was no hope for them, the what hope should I hold on to.
She blew it!
this!!! i’m 16 and i’ve always looked up to rory. seeing her fail really messed me up
I live in a little town like them and i see many girls just like them , with a great future ahead ended up doing things pr working is something i never expected :(
Shit happens in life and Rory is HUMAN she's not meant to be perfect so you could feel good about youself
I agree with this but I think the worst one was we’re Lorelai couldn’t say anything nice about her father. I mean he paid for Rorys school and he brought her the doll house that her mom was gonna give away. She loved her dad and had a good connection with him. I just think that was truly dumb
Exactly. It wasn't her dad she had the major issues with. In fact, many times through the years, we watched him be in cahoots with her on things.
And robbed us of remembering him well too
I also thought it was so weird that in the series logan would literally drop everything for Rory and pretty much wouldn’t even let them break up because he loved her so much but then he wouldn’t break up with his fiancé to be with her? it made no sense
I agree but then again why would he? He proposed and she rejected him, why would he trust her again?
@@ddb777 I know what you mean but i think if he really loved her he would. Idk i just think it just doesn't really fit w logans character
@@ava2442 maybe he was waiting for her, he never rlly pushed Rory to make a choice until the proposal
What everyone said , plus, I hated some of the lighting and make up.
In some scenes Lauren Graham looks great, in others Lorelai looks older than Emily!
oMG I SO AGREE! i love lorelai sooo much but i cant really enjoy this show coz she looks SOOO Different! she was soo pretty in the old gilmore girls
@@blueisgr8380 You have to wonder how this was not caught.
If they did it on purpose then someone should have put their foot down. It completely ruined some of the scenes
@@rosencain YES!!
there is one scene where it looks like she has next to no make up on and she looked great, the mua did a bad job
Yes I agree!! Something is different about her face, I think her eyes look different. I can’t put my finger on it. She’s still very beautiful.
My main problem with the revival was since it was written for the original series 10 years ago most of the plot didn't make sense for what it probably should have been. For example Logan and Rory still sleeping together? I feel that they wouldn't still be seeing each other 10 years after their breakup. The revival just seemed off and I think the characters would have developed differently in 10 years.
darcy phillips Yes! I thought the same thing! this would have kind of made sense back then. It's like the writer finally got to do the episode she originally intended but it's lost us
darcy phillips my taughts exactly.. they really mislead us.. we should think of this like a year later.. not ten! at least rory's (without the Paul thing), logan's, Dean's, jess's, lorelai and Luke's storyline would make sense.. not so for lane's, paris's, sookie's, April's.. Emily's I loved.. Michel's was so so.. the musical I keep forwarding every time I have seen the revival.. it's just a mess!
I never realized this storyline was written to follow directly after the original show 10 years ago... that makes SO much more sense. That makes Rory's pregnancy SO much more meaningful, too. There's a huge difference between 30 year old Rory making a mess and getting pregnant... and Rory getting pregnant in college. That would change the entire context of the situation, given Lorelei got pregnant in highschool and Rory would've been practically a kid still like she was when she had her... 30s Rory getting pregnant was not that impactful?!
Top 10 things I hated about the revival :
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Oh and I forgot THE REVIVAL
tru tho
The only good parts of the show was when jess comessss like yes jess we missed you. And when Luke and lorelie have their pre marriage thing. The rest was depressing
Hilarious and so true! It was trash
Hated it. After rematching the entire series again, I tried to follow up with the GG revival (watched once) and couldn't even make it through the 2nd episode again.
It would of been better if they had just leave it as it was and never wasted money and time on a disappointing revival.
Even if there isn’t more episodes, we know what will happen with Rory. Jess will help and be their for her like Luke was and Logan will keep getting in the way like Chris
That is really interesting coz another parallel would be Logan shoving it in rory's face how she rejected his marriage proposal and an excuse for being a crappy dad like Christopher does
That's an interesting theory that I hadn't thought about. It does seem like we build up to a loop similar to Lorelai's trajectory. There are some slight differences, i.e. Logan actually knows how to be successful and actually does have money, and Jess--well, we don't know much about Jess at this point, but he is more inline with Rory compared to Luke and Lorelai's relationship...and Rory will have the priviledge of a mom who she has a good relationship with compared to Emily and Lorelai's relationship...but I supposed it is possible for history to repeat, regardless.
Yes, so foreseeable. I already hate it :D
To be honest Rory has always had questionable judgement and morality, especially since she had an affair with Dean. I found her exceptionably terrible after she dropped out of university. I was not surprised by her crappy behaviour in the revival. The early seasons were the best.
I agree
There's an amazing UA-camr who breaks down where Rory became unsympathetic and I totally agree with their take. Think it's silver screen something or other
I think the question of Rory's lack of professionalism was actually answered very very well in the show. More than once Rory was told by her mother that she was used to everything falling in her lap. While Rory didn't let this go to her head as a teenager and college student, if things continued to work out this way for the next 9 years-especially with things like her New Yorker article-then it kinda makes sense that Rory might start to think a little more highly of herself. Furthermore, it was already well established from the beginning that she only wanted one job and wasn't taking anyone else very seriously, and this ties into her general arrogance in the revival. In general, I think it was well set up. You can hate it, but it still certainly makes sense.
Yeah, it actually happens to a lot of academically perfect kids. When they grow up, they can't handle the fact that hyper-idealism is a flaw and not a virtue as they grew up believing.
I get what you're saying but to me it still doesn't make sense. Rory might have been unfamiliar with academic failure which makes it difficult to handle when it happens but she had always been incredibly overprepared for everything, down to the last random school test. She even started to get less idealistic in the 7th season of the original series after Logan's dad told her she didn't have it. She stopped catastrophising one person's negative opinion and coped well as a journalist and editor at Yale. The fact that after spending 9 years in an admittedly competitive profession where she has even had some success she would be totally unprepared for that Condé Nast interview is incomprehensible. I get they tried to write Rory as less than perfect but she was just fundamentally inconsistent with the person we saw grow up in the original series. Not to mention the way she acted in her private life.
I think the writers had no idea what to do with her, even though there was so much to work with. They could have made her react totally differently to the same situations and it would've been interesting to follow her development. This way when she says "I suck" at the end, I couldn't but agree with her.
The one thing that I actually liked about the revival was Emily moving on and ditching that club she was in
I distinctly remember when Rory was feeling badly about the fallout with Lucy and was telling Richard about it. Richard encouraged Rory telling her something to the effect of that she was a person of "great character and heart." Seeing Rory in the revival made me think how disappointed he would have been with how she turned out with neither characteristic.
Facts !
Why is there no mention of Jess?? Jess needed more screen time!
nabz 18 Jess moved on and had triplets:P
nabz 18 not only jess
Dean lane paris rorys yale friends city members and many more were in need of a longer screentime
yeah, yes!!!
Agree. At least they could have put him in the wedding ceremony scene...
yes completely agree!!
well, i think that the fact that Rory wasn't portrayed as a successful journalist gave some reality to her character. She was almost unreal in series as a teenager.
SAME!!!
Isabel Kiener that’s actually the one part I was very upset with too.
I appreciated that bit but the fact that she acts like being on the Gazette will be ok.....ashe would end up living at home until 60 or something lol. Her book wouldn't get her that far either in reality. Even if spectacular- it's her first book and it would take years to get as many copies out as she would need just to pay for her own place with a baby in tow. Maybe she gets financial help from her grandparents or Logan...but I guess we'll never know.
It's a show ,it's not supposed to be realistic ,She was supposed to be a role model.
Isabel Kiener tbh
One of the things I hated was Lorelai's reaction to April needing money. While Rory was privileged in the retrospect that money was not an issue because she was spoilt by her Grandparents and Mother and apart from the DAR job after dropping out of Yale, Rory was not treated like "Oh she should get a job". April was not so fortunate in regards to money and jobs and opportunities being handed on a silver platter, plus Rory has a longer bond with Luke and he would not react saying "Oh, Rory should get a job" if she needed money.
The way Lorelai reacted was as if April was lesser than Rory and that She is still not so accepting of April. Lorelai and Rory both treat April as if they merely tolerate her. Rory: Spoilt/'Golden Child'; April: Outsider/special treatment for Rory lesser treatment for April.
Luke's reaction of "I'll take care of it" to Lorelai's hypocritical blasé unfazed "She should get a job" retort made me happy though, it's like he saw through her favouritism.
Krystal Rowan THIS. YES. I feel like every mom loves their kid so much that they think that they are these great, amazing people but in reality that can be blinding and come off as kinda annoying. Lorelai always thought Rory was the best of the best and was critical when it came to any other character who MIGHT seem like competition to her precious, perfect daughter.
She did call her out when she thought she wasn’t doing the right thing, but for most of the show she acts like Rory is this gift from God and then tells Logan she wasn’t raised with a silver spoon in her mouth or something LMAO
Luke should have said something to Lorelei, considering her own 32 year old daughter was not working. Luke love his daughter as much as she loves hers, so he should have told her, her remark was uncalled for.
Also lorelai and rory always make fun of Paris or pass snide remarks abt her enthusiastic/ overwhelming nature but in truth she was the one who achieved immense success and spoiled brat rory is the only perfect and too good one in her mothers eyes rory is spoiled, cheater, a brat, whiny, irritating, and entitled bitchy girl all those praises went straight to her head!!! And lorelai looked sooo great in season 1 she was playing 32 Alexis looks 40 while playing 32
@@dr.iffatkhan5504 i'm really glad that Paris turned out to be successful because i feel like they (the producers idk) just didn't give a shit about her and kinda made her a little "crazy" just to show that Rory was better than her at the original show (don't know if you got what i mean but it really pisses me off)
That's not how I saw that. It was a continuation of Luke keeping April separate from Lorelai. That's was a large part of why they broke up. He knew about April for months before even telling Lorelai about her and then he never included Lorelai in anything he did with April. In the episode where they are discussing April and money, Lorelai offers to help financially and Luke says no....still keeping Lorelai separate from April after all those years.
I agree , a few other / or the same things I HATED about it :
- why did Luke & Lorelei go backwards in their relationship?
- sookie would have never left the INN
- Rory is a terrible person with no morals, she really had a terrible glow down as a character
- Why didn’t we get to see the wedding ?!?
- WHERE YOU LEAD … or song was taken away from us !
- I could go in for days but I have to learn for my finals ( lol )
But in general , the revival feels crazy and is so trashy like the whole color theme and I get that it’s 2016 but people simply don’t change like this esp. Babette or Ms Patty who were older
It feels like the writers didn’t even watch the original Gilmore girls series and just continued with something else
The Song "where you lead..." does not fit anymore, because Rory aint following her mum as an adult
I think the father is Paul, Rory just forgot about it...
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Unpopular opinion: I actually liked Lane's ending. She finally struck the balance between having a good relationship with her mother, her identity and her background with making her own independent choices where it mattered. Her working at Kim's antiques was just her finally becoming secure in the fact that her mother is a hard-working businesswoman and there's nothing wrong with that. It made a lot of sense from an immigrant standpoint because we all grew up irrationally hating everything associated with our parents and our heritage. You only learn to make your peace with it as an adult when you've made your independent decisions and you find that what your parents did actually made a lot of sense. I loved that her ending captured that realism.
I wanted her to do so much more
Yeah i didnt like the revival but lane's ending made sense
@@katiehelms8903 it was so anti climatic lane wanted to be free of her mother and still 10 years later in the same area she was before
i honoustly felt the same way, pivoting on something lane said either toward the end of season 7 or in the revival "i tried so hard to win your love and affection mama, but it seems like no matter how hard i try i just can't". i think that struck a cord for both of them, allowing lane to see the value of her mothers strictness and for mrs. kim to see that maybe she had been a little too strict sometimes. allowing the love that had always been there between them could blossom.
She didn’t ACTUALLY GO HIKING. Sooo, it’s actually right on character.
YES THANK YOU and she admitted the idea was weird when she came back. Her dad had just died of course she was gonna go a little nuts it's normal
@@whutdafeq1715 I agree! She even thought it was weird she was going hiking. She just needed time to think by herself. She figured out what she wanted on that hiking trip: marrying Luke. She also figured out the best memory with her dad. Rip Richard. Rip Edward Herrmann. You shall be missed. 💔
Gets inheritance from Grandma at 21. Broke bye 30.
For me, the worst part by far was the injustice they did to Lane's character. She was vivacious and ambitious and all the series gave her was a lazy, kind of dumb, boyfriend and two children. It honestly just felt like a tragedy, and all I was hoping for was for Lane to achieve her dreams despite adversity, but we did not get to see that at all. I know "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree", but this character had to struggle with a lot and the show doesn't even comment on the disappointing nature of her storyline. Also the lack of discussion about abortion in the series despite the absurd amount of unplanned pregnancies is a bit scary, I would've liked to see Lane at least consider it.
I've heard the actor for Lane wasn't well during filming so she couldn't do as big a role as they'd planned. That's no guaruntee she would have had satisfying stage time (plus, surely her absense could be way more easily explained by being on tour with her cool band) but, that's what somewhat appeased me over Lane's poor treatment
You are fucked up.
TheMoonunit96 ITA, was so disappointed the last season with Lane’s story. I would have preferred they wrote her out of the show and she went off to conquer her dreams.
Lanes story was sad, but beyond realistic. She got pregnant..with twins. As moms do, she had to take a step back, she chose to be the mom. She also got married super young, that did happen first. Her life story didnt suprise me, its sad but I hate to say it was disappointing. Lots of moms go through that.
Awww I agree. Also they seemed to do that for most of the show- Rory is the "apple doesn't fall far.." in the most depressing ways- she's alone with a baby and basically jobless (Gazette and first book aren't going to make her a sufficient income- at least not for many years...) she had so much more opportunity than her mom did when she had Rory- she loved Logan and considered marrying him but now she's copying mom-for what? Lorelei wouldn't have even wanted that for her. The whole og series is about how they made it even though it WASN'T IDeal. :( Disappointing.
Why wasn't Lorelai mocking the musical. Her horror seemed so out of character.
So true
I didn't enjoy the revival AT ALL. And the saddest thing is that I think it's because it was so realistic... All the unfulfilled expectations, people changing in the way we wouldn't expect or like them to. That's exactly what happens in life and I didn't really expect to see real life on the show. I wanted to be uplifted and feel better, just like when watching the original show. I wanted romanticism, magic, love, and the smell of snow. Feel so sad after watching it:(
I had a die hard family member fan tell me the fan theory that the memoir Rory wrote was the regular season run of the show.
And the Year in the Life was her real life.
It explains why everything goes so well for her in the regular run, but nothing does in the revival.
Now I’ll rewatch the show with that in mind for a while new take on it.
That actually makes sense 😮
what? i don’t understand, can you elaborate please
that makes more sense - thank you
To be quite honest, I didn't enjoy the Revival very much. I only enjoyed Luke and Lorelai getting married. The things I didn't like were :
1. Rory was being very cruel and selfish. She was having sex with a man that was engaged to somebody else, all the while when she was also dating somebody. She didn't even care about how Logan's fiance would feel, she only cared about herself and what she wanted, so she slept with him anyway multiple times, despite knowing that he's engaged. She just didn't care. She didn't act like Rory from the original series, and it seems like her character development went down instead of up. Plus, She didn't even care about how rude she was being to Paul! She just wanted him to go away!
2. I didn't like that Jess wasn't in the show very much!! He deserved so much more than 3 scenes. I'm disappointed because I LOVE Jess, and I really wanted Jess and Rory to get together.
3. I HATE that Rory is pregnant. She's following exactly in her mother's footsteps and being just like she was when she was young. Rory and Lorelai are similar, but they don't have to be exactly the same.
4. The musical was a waste of time that stopped being funny after the first joke. Personally I think they just made it that long to fill space.
5. I think that Rory changed Logan and made him a better person in the original series! He was beginning to be much better than when we first met him, and that was because of Rory. But then in the revival it's like he went back to being that awful guy he was when we first met him. He cheated on his fiance and acted awful. His character development vanished.
Overall, the Gilmore Girls revival was a big disappointment to me and I kind of wish it never happened because nothing good came out of it.
Rory didn’t do the same thing as Lorelei at all
Yeah she's in her late 20s and went to college when she's pregnant. Time jump--Lorelai was a teenager basically when she had Rory.
Rory lost her virginity with Dean who was married to another woman and Rory didn’t care. She slept multiple times with Logan who was engaged to another woman and didn’t care this time either. She also cheated on Dean with Jess.
I see a pattern here...Rory not giving a shit about other people’s feelings.
Rory's being pregnant is not at all the same as her mother's. Lorelai was 16 when she got pregnant. Rory is in her 30's.
Roxanne Gladu Have you watched the series? Rory felt AWFUL knowing she was "the other woman". She may have continued it but she clearly stated that she didn't like the feeling of knowing she was making someone unhappy. But here she is like "whatever".
Top three things I hated:
1) The Musical
2) Whatever that was with Christopher and Rory
3) Not having an actual wedding
Don't get me wrong with #3, I LOVED the scene of them getting married and all of that, but I always wanted to see an actual wedding. I wanted that closure of Emily being able to see her daughter get married, and the whole town FINALLY seeing Luke get Lorelai
I know right! I was so disappointed that Emily didn't get to be there. Throughout the whole series you could see how Emily has always just wanted to be a part of Lorelai and Rory's life. It always made me sad how Lorelai would act towards her and would blame her for so many things when everything Emily did was of love and wanting to have a normal mother-daughter relationship. The fact that she wasn't even at the wedding was the high point for me. Poor Emily...
I think that what Rory was trying to do when she goes to see Christopher is to decide if she should involve the father of her child in her life
Was an awkward scene
I am not sure why they felt they needed to add so many musical numbers to the revival since that is not how the original was. It didn't flow with the original series. The scene with Christopher and Rory was awkward although after finding out what was going on, at least some of the dialogue made sense. The wedding was incredibly disappointing. The dance and them running through the props were weird and I think that they should have had a true wedding so Emily and Sookie and Jess could have also attended. Sookie and Emily not being at Lorelai's wedding was awful. My fourth thing I hated was Rory's love life. She was sleeping with an engaged man, dating a man she didn't even remember his name and had a one night stand. I felt like instead of growing up and learning from her mistakes she was just doing the same thing and it made me not like her so much.
What I couldn’t figure out, is if Sookie was going to be leaving the Drogonfly permanently, why didn’t they write it in to the story that she sold her part of the business to Michel? He’s clearly discontent with his place in the business and professionally to the point that he wants to leave. Why wouldn’t he become an owner. That would feel like natural progression and a nice closure for him in the story.
JewelsinFL L VERY SMART!
I actually loved Rory's struggles with a job. Everybody several times in a life has a breakdown, where one acts completely opposite as one has in a character and is unprofessional. She was a prodigy her whole young life in a safe and controlled environment which is school. This is her major breakdown. If the series continues, I'm curious how she handles it.
This revival was extremely disappointing
i say they need to make another season to fix the loose ends
i havent seen it yet.. and i dont want to with all these.. references!" =/
Amy Sherman Paladino wanted to end the original series in a different way and wasn't allowed to, so she decided to destroy the revival! Luke and Lorelai lying to each other, Jesus. Horrible. Also no way the 2 of them would be seriously considering having a baby at 50, that was so out of character.
ASP wanted Rory to be pregnant at 22 or however old she was at the end of the show.
Right? And if they had considered it, it would have been MUCH earlier in their TEN YEAR relationship! Also, why the hell did they wait ten years to get married when they had already been engaged once anyway?
Sara Novak it really does seem like it. I was sooo beyond disappointed with this mess.
Why wasn't Emily at Lorelai's wedding? That's really out of character, especially after we find out how much it means to her like when she finds out about the wedding to Max and eloping with Chris.
sowmyas4 yesssssss agree so much!!!! i NEEDED to see Emily there!!!!!!!
They were having a full wedding ceremony the next morning, which Emily was going to attend. It's fitting for Emily to not be present at the impromptu, intimate wedding, as she wasn't always supportive of the relationship. What I really find terrible is that Sookie wasn't present.
My thoughts exactly!!! This pissed me off so much. Somehow it was okay to wake up Lane and Michel (sp??) in the middle of the night but Emily wasn't??? Sure, she probably would've initially been put off by doing it that way, but she would've realized that Lorelai never does things "how she's supposed to." I'm sure she'd have felt so happy to finally see her only child get married!!!! Emily's arc was incredible and she changed in a positive way... and basically deserved so much better.
Emily was on Nantucket Island (was it Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard?). She wouldn't have been able to make it to Stars Hollow in an instant. Lane and Michel were the only ones in Stars Hollow at that time.
sunshaped That's what gets me. even if she wasn't there for the impromptu wedding, it didn't look like she have any plans of travelling - like attending the wedding the next day.
I was really mad about Rory's storyline. Is this the best the writers could do? Jess wrote a book and it got him nowhere, so now they want Rory to do the same? Rory went to some of the best schools, so she should at least be as successful as Paris. If Richard were alive he would be so disappointed. Speaking of Pairs, it seems that she is the only person that matured. Everyone else is stuck doing the same thing they were doing where season 7 left off. I was also mad that the death of Richard didn't bring Lorelia and her mother closer. If that can't then nothing will 😪WE NEED MORE EPISODES TO FIX THIS MESS. Don't get me started on Rory's love life... I'm team Logan, but the affair made no sense since she rejected his proposal. I hope there are more episodes to come.
Well, I agree but about Paris... actually she , a grown up woman, a mature woman that hids in the bathroom of her former school because she saw the boy she had a crush on in the high school. And she is almost 30. I mean... really? Plus, she treats her children like her mother has done with her and she has suffered a lot in the pat for that. Paris would never have done it.
conce I didn't mean it that way. I meant when season 7 ended we saw Paris graduate, ready to begin her life. On the revival we saw that she had kids, jobs and even looks mature. Although she divorced we saw that life went on for her. That can't be said for most of the other characters.I expected and wanted the revival to be like season 5 of One Tree Hill. Season 4 they all graduated and when season five returned it was a time jump, but the characters matured. Their lifes wasn't on pause. They had flashback scenes to fill us in on what we missed. Like why Peyton & Lucas wasn't together when the show returned and why Nathan was in such a dark place. The revival should've showed a flashback of Rory and Logan getting together after she turned down his proposal. They talked about them getting together but never got into detail about what was said. I would've loved to see what Rory said to Logan and how he took it. The writers of this revival should've took notes from the writers of One Tree Hill. Although OTH had a time jump from season 4 to 5 it still flowed so nicely together. Everything made sense.
Ah yes I agree about this. It seems that many character are still stuck in the past while other run to fast.
Miss Shay Who said his book got him nowhere? Plus Rory is a Gilmore so it’s part of Gilmore history
the affair, while disappointing, is one of the few things that makes sense. history (aka past flames) tends to repeat itself, and rory and logan were always in love. she just wasn't ready to get married at 22. i honestly think that if logan had waited another year or 2 to propose she would have said yes. or, if she had gotten knocked up at the end of season 7, that there would be room for her to say yes at any point during the ten year interval and revival
To be honest, I had to fast forward the musical. Unwatchable.
The Gilmore Girls revival is so depressing - it’s the opposite of the funny/witty/inspirational stories in the original series. Too bad I can’t unsee it; it even ruins my mood to rewatch the original series.
This just made me remember how much I hated the revival!
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Hate scripts
i read about the theory that "gilmore girls" the show was actually the book that Rory eventually went on to write! which could be why the show was more idealized and why Rory was so different in the revival. Cause Rory wouldn't see herself as much of an immature, entitled, disrespectful, self absorbed person she was in the reboot.
She was that way in the series as well.
treating Paul like that, was so disrespectful.
it's so weird, like, Rory was such a role model in the earlier episodes, yeah she had her flaws but as a whole she was great. but in the revival i couldn't stand most of the scenes she was in. it's almost like Alexis changed too much to play the same character.
also the character turned into such a hypocritical, whiny and immature person, she didn't take responsibility when she screwed up, and all she did in the revival was screw up.
also, too many unanswered questions
nah. Alexis did a great job. its the writers fault for making the character unbearable..
I needed more Jess
Paper Dolls team Jess all day
Amen sister !!
Yes!
You do realize that Rory and Jess are cousins right? People need to let go of the idea of them. The only reason Amy even wrote him in was to extend how long Lorelai and Luke would go w/o getting together.
@@mady8667 By Luke and Lorelai's marriage, not by blood.
if it was a ”three years after” almost everything would’ve been fine, but TEN years? no way.
Exactly! like...so they didn't grow up and change for the better in 10 years? although, that'd make Paris' storyline way too impossible (it's already pretty iffy)
Not enough Jess Mariano.
Jana H YES
Jana H AGREED
Jana H I know right!! I'm over here waiting for them to get back together already
Milo got so buff. I was staring at his ass in those jeans the entire time Jess was at lorelais house
roter13 I forget the name of the movie but there’s a bedroom scene where he’s naked.
rory was just too different, sure she was always a little spoiled, but the way she was acting in the revival just sucked.