The cost to get this one part designed and made for a build, is more than I will ever be able to put into an entire build…so I am living vicariously thru this man.
I built a 2011 a few years back. I spent an hour admiring the machine work on the titanium grip. It cost more than most highend pistols by itself. So happy to see this video and the process. Love it.
@@jayaneyon9316 Another one to look at is the Sig P226 or 228. When I built my 80%, refurbished slids and parts kits were cheep. Of all my pistols, it's the one that fits like a glove.... The 2011 is more of a novelty becuase it's fun, but it's a range gun.
I really enjoyed this video! The insights on reverse engineering were enlightening and offered a fresh perspective. I appreciate the effort taken to explain complex concepts so clearly. I look forward to part 2! 🤙
Super interesting how the reverse engineering is carried out, thanks for showing every detail. Nice work Jessie and thanks to the guys at Dynamic 3D, such an awesome group of people!
For the grip texture you could reach out to a company that does chemical milling. Would handle those really tiny logos on the grip and even add further texture to the grip if so desired.
The reverse engineering software used is clearly Geomagic Design X, so it is misleading to say that DezignWorks or Polyworks were used for the modelling. The mesh is displayed in DesignX's default colors, the rotation center icon is identical to DX, and even the feature names during the LiveTransfer are identical to DX's naming convention. Be honest about the tools used to create this project.
Cool project Jessie! It was cool finally meeting you at the Mastercam booth at IMTS this year. Hope that Texas heat is tapering off! 😂 If not, might as well make “how to vids” in the air conditioning! 🤜🤛
1:01 Using a smaller scanner may have been a better choice. The spacing between the cameras will make it harder to get accurate small convex features (ex: the hollow inside of the grip), and usually they have a hard time with assembling the multiple scans of a small object together. I am curious as to how well a 3d scanner made for smaller parts (ex: 3dmakerpro mouse scanner) would do in terms of accuracy and time to finished scan
I create such grips in my garage on my VMC, its def not easy but not impossible. I do it cut in half so two parts that I screw together with a dovel pin. Running my own grip since 2022 without any issues.
Gorgeous part. There seems to be a bottleneck designing from mesh to solid. Looks like the mesh is just being used as a reference? For us CAD illiterate, probably be easier to just 3D print. Long as the mesh is watertight. Love learning from you guys, keep em coming!!
Yea didn't that guy come on on the 1st episode. Sick grip. I miss coming over there and just watching chips fly. To bad your not by bear river any more
Can someone please explain to me how ‘accurate down to nine tenths’ is a good resolution. Did he just misspeak or am I not understanding imperial correctly.
9 tenths in machinist world is 9 ten-thousandths of an inch or .0009" (23 micron in metric world) not 0.9" like the wording would suggest. .0009" is pretty impressive for a scanner like that
Great question! The accuracy is 0.0009" or 25 microns for the HandySCAN Black+ Elite. Accuracy is the difference between a measured value (from the scan) compared to a known standard such as a NIST-traceable ring gauge or ball bar. Resolution is the distance between data points and has no impact on the accuracy of the scan. I hope that helps answer your question!
Current production of these grips from the few manufacturers that are capable of machining them can’t keep up with demand. Let’s get a few different textures and get this on the market. At $750 each unit, I’m wondering what the total machine time for one?
I'm sorry but you really need to fix that weird corner where the grip meets the frame right under the safeties. If you have that area under the safety cut out you need to do the same on the grip. Or not do it on both. Look at Atlas Gunworks as an example.
If a project on this channel is a „multi part series“ it is a dead giveaway you are never going to see or hear anything else about it ever again. Love the channel and the academy but your multi parters are almost always a massive letdown.
Will never underatand why some machinist will just say "tenths" when refering to a number in the ten thousandths point. It's like they just assume everyone knows they mean "tenths of a thousandths" but when i hear "5 tenths" my first thought is 0.5, because that's what it is. Also makes no sense why anyone would ever say "5 tenths of a thousandths" anyways. You would never refer to 0.5 as "5 tenths of and inch." You would say half an inch, because everyone (should) know you always reduce the fraction lol.
They do absolutely assume that people understand standard industry terminology because they aren't making this for the layman sitting on the couch or someone who has never seen or knows about the machining world. Its meant for people in the machining industry or those who have a strong interest with basic understanding of terms. Everything in machining is in terms of thousandths of an inch because one thousandth, or .001" is the most generally used base for tolerance and measurement precision. So "within a thou/.001" or "two thou/.002" is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than saying "its within two hundred thousandths of an inch." like you want it to be. Its fully understood in the entire industry that "a thou" means .001 of an inch and everything from there is in terms of that base thousandth reference point, so tenths, hundreds or thousandths is in terms of one thousandth/.001 of an inch. ie. its much easier and quicker to say "its a tenth off" than say "Its one ten thousandths of an inch off." Its unique to machinists and the industry and isn't going to change because you are crying about it not making sense. It's parlance that is specific for an industry and nearly every industry has their own specific terminology and concatenations of longer words, so learn and adapt if you want to understand the world rather than complain about why you don't think it makes any sense, because the second you start trying to machine something, it makes COMPLETE SENSE.
*Look, I get it that people view you as gods... but you really did the stupid with this one.* *I mean... you know that is built on specifications right? Specs that are EASILY found?* *The only thing you needed to do, was model EVERYTHING THAT FITS INSIDE THE GRIP...* *And then offset by 3mm. Create your planes, smooth into a solid, and then boolean remove the parts inside.* That's how I did mine. In a couple hours. I didn't have to make a YT video on it either. Because it wasn't anything special.
@@littyduck828 Looks like you'll never sub and nobody will EVER give a single shit that you don't, so GTFO. Its an American manufacturing channel so they will use imperial. They dont have to do shit for anyone here. The Hello Kitty channel is a few more clicks that way ----------->
If only they would teach the full process from reverse engineering to machining; allowing people to take that knowledge to do the same on their own parts... That would be great. oh wait...
Who knew you snowflakes could be so easily….triggered. Seriously tho Bro, I’m sure the first 8 year old that sees your gun will think it’s sick….initially.
Who knew you snowflakes could be so easily…..triggered. Seriously tho Bro, I’m sure the first 8 year old that sees the finished product will think it’s SICK…..initially.
@@Salmanchishtioffical You want to apply to a company but can't figure out how to use the internet to get their contact information? I wouldn't hire someone that lacked such skills.
Its amazing how titans of cnc continues to add new tech! Absolutely incredible! Lets go!!!!
Hey another series we will never see the end of
true
😂😂😂
You are absolutely not wrong. I've never seen a single series finished.
Guess you were right :)
No, our first thought was " how much?"😊
Very expensive, extremely even.
My first thought was how much money did you get payed to make this video
"Please fill out this form, get on our spam list, and talk to our sales team, before we disclose the stratospheric $#"
$71k 🤢
@@owievisie "Paid".
The cost to get this one part designed and made for a build, is more than I will ever be able to put into an entire build…so I am living vicariously thru this man.
yeah, titan is currently making bank. a lot of shops cant afford what he has of course he's put in the effort and deserves it.
*The only reason it is expensive, is because it was done in the most re. tard.e d way possible.*
@@dominic6634 a lot of his stuff is free since hes sponsoring them. doosan, kennametal, haimer, etc.
I built a 2011 a few years back. I spent an hour admiring the machine work on the titanium grip. It cost more than most highend pistols by itself. So happy to see this video and the process. Love it.
I hope to get to build one
@@jayaneyon9316 Another one to look at is the Sig P226 or 228. When I built my 80%, refurbished slids and parts kits were cheep. Of all my pistols, it's the one that fits like a glove.... The 2011 is more of a novelty becuase it's fun, but it's a range gun.
@@derekturner3272 thanks for the advice
You have that Phoenix Trinity Evo grip in titanium also!?
@@ALL_comped_EVERYTHING in extra grippy texture. It's a work of art.... These 2011 options keep getting better and better...
Very nice work brother!!
Good work Jessie👏 Those scanners are awesome. Looking forward to seeing the complete part!
I really enjoyed this video! The insights on reverse engineering were enlightening and offered a fresh perspective. I appreciate the effort taken to explain complex concepts so clearly. I look forward to part 2! 🤙
Super interesting how the reverse engineering is carried out, thanks for showing every detail. Nice work Jessie and thanks to the guys at Dynamic 3D, such an awesome group of people!
But it is the EXACT WRONG WAY TO REVERSE ENGINEER THIS PART.
So don't even remember the way they did it, it is wrong.
Thats gonna be a beautiful part!
Fascinating! I'll take two please
For the grip texture you could reach out to a company that does chemical milling. Would handle those really tiny logos on the grip and even add further texture to the grip if so desired.
No. Lol, wtf? No!
Cant wait to see how this turns out!
We never will though will we
The reverse engineering software used is clearly Geomagic Design X, so it is misleading to say that DezignWorks or Polyworks were used for the modelling. The mesh is displayed in DesignX's default colors, the rotation center icon is identical to DX, and even the feature names during the LiveTransfer are identical to DX's naming convention. Be honest about the tools used to create this project.
Correct. Maybe honest mistake.
i cant wait to see next..... good job
Did you use a 3inch flute endmill to rough out for the dovetail?😅
Super sik by the way. Love you guys
Looks a lot like an Atlas Gunworks grip module with some tweaks. Pretty awesome.
it's definitely a Cheely grip...Atlas used to use them and now make their own...Atlas doesn't sell their grips as parts..awesome video
It is a E2 AL Standard texture Cheely grip I wander when I made that grip
Cool project Jessie! It was cool finally meeting you at the Mastercam booth at IMTS this year. Hope that Texas heat is tapering off! 😂 If not, might as well make “how to vids” in the air conditioning! 🤜🤛
Pretty cool!
1:01
Using a smaller scanner may have been a better choice. The spacing between the cameras will make it harder to get accurate small convex features (ex: the hollow inside of the grip), and usually they have a hard time with assembling the multiple scans of a small object together.
I am curious as to how well a 3d scanner made for smaller parts (ex: 3dmakerpro mouse scanner) would do in terms of accuracy and time to finished scan
I create such grips in my garage on my VMC, its def not easy but not impossible. I do it cut in half so two parts that I screw together with a dovel pin. Running my own grip since 2022 without any issues.
Gorgeous part. There seems to be a bottleneck designing from mesh to solid. Looks like the mesh is just being used as a reference? For us CAD illiterate, probably be easier to just 3D print. Long as the mesh is watertight. Love learning from you guys, keep em coming!!
Correct about the mesh
UA-cam loves him and his programming
One of those showed up to be put on a our CMMs
Gripping series
Yea didn't that guy come on on the 1st episode. Sick grip. I miss coming over there and just watching chips fly. To bad your not by bear river any more
Your dad was an awesome machinists.
How much?
3:58 😂 that’s what she said
Why so short?
Ah a Cheely grip being scanned. Cant wait to see the EDM portion like the original.
Can someone please explain to me how ‘accurate down to nine tenths’ is a good resolution. Did he just misspeak or am I not understanding imperial correctly.
9 tenths in machinist world is 9 ten-thousandths of an inch or .0009" (23 micron in metric world) not 0.9" like the wording would suggest. .0009" is pretty impressive for a scanner like that
@@beyondthebitstream5153 cheers
Great question! The accuracy is 0.0009" or 25 microns for the HandySCAN Black+ Elite. Accuracy is the difference between a measured value (from the scan) compared to a known standard such as a NIST-traceable ring gauge or ball bar. Resolution is the distance between data points and has no impact on the accuracy of the scan. I hope that helps answer your question!
I absolutely love our black elite. I have nothing but positive things to say about Dynamic3D.
Now, make an AR grip along the same design
9/10 of what, how much is it in metric?
Current production of these grips from the few manufacturers that are capable of machining them can’t keep up with demand. Let’s get a few different textures and get this on the market. At $750 each unit, I’m wondering what the total machine time for one?
Hey, want to share the base model? Please???? I could absolutely use a 2011 grip source model.
Since Titan has a felony record, is there any legal issue with working with firearm components?
That subscribe segway was some nasty work 😅
I want an AR grip stock that isn't a pisto gripl but actually looks more like a rifle AKs don't have that damn problem
@Titans you are showing Geomagic Design X Live transfer. Not design works
От алюминия руки пачкаются. Без финишного покрытия не обойтись. Но это лишние затраты времени и средств.
This is 80% of my job’s task
I'm sorry but you really need to fix that weird corner where the grip meets the frame right under the safeties. If you have that area under the safety cut out you need to do the same on the grip. Or not do it on both. Look at Atlas Gunworks as an example.
So does Cheely know you guys are using his grip?
if they're "reverse engineering" then probably not
He does because my coworker noticed the short on Facebook and we showed him
I literally own this grip lol
make it in the 3D printer
If a project on this channel is a „multi part series“ it is a dead giveaway you are never going to see or hear anything else about it ever again. Love the channel and the academy but your multi parters are almost always a massive letdown.
Will never underatand why some machinist will just say "tenths" when refering to a number in the ten thousandths point.
It's like they just assume everyone knows they mean "tenths of a thousandths" but when i hear "5 tenths" my first thought is 0.5, because that's what it is.
Also makes no sense why anyone would ever say "5 tenths of a thousandths" anyways. You would never refer to 0.5 as "5 tenths of and inch." You would say half an inch, because everyone (should) know you always reduce the fraction lol.
They do absolutely assume that people understand standard industry terminology because they aren't making this for the layman sitting on the couch or someone who has never seen or knows about the machining world. Its meant for people in the machining industry or those who have a strong interest with basic understanding of terms.
Everything in machining is in terms of thousandths of an inch because one thousandth, or .001" is the most generally used base for tolerance and measurement precision. So "within a thou/.001" or "two thou/.002" is SIGNIFICANTLY easier than saying "its within two hundred thousandths of an inch." like you want it to be. Its fully understood in the entire industry that "a thou" means .001 of an inch and everything from there is in terms of that base thousandth reference point, so tenths, hundreds or thousandths is in terms of one thousandth/.001 of an inch. ie. its much easier and quicker to say "its a tenth off" than say "Its one ten thousandths of an inch off."
Its unique to machinists and the industry and isn't going to change because you are crying about it not making sense. It's parlance that is specific for an industry and nearly every industry has their own specific terminology and concatenations of longer words, so learn and adapt if you want to understand the world rather than complain about why you don't think it makes any sense, because the second you start trying to machine something, it makes COMPLETE SENSE.
👌👌👌👌👌🤔🤔
BAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAA $70,000 for that scanner.
*Look, I get it that people view you as gods... but you really did the stupid with this one.*
*I mean... you know that is built on specifications right? Specs that are EASILY found?*
*The only thing you needed to do, was model EVERYTHING THAT FITS INSIDE THE GRIP...*
*And then offset by 3mm. Create your planes, smooth into a solid, and then boolean remove the parts inside.*
That's how I did mine. In a couple hours.
I didn't have to make a YT video on it either. Because it wasn't anything special.
AVP 👽
I'm s gun 🔫 guy/ yeah / if you were doing paint 🎨 ball/ but it's nice / what's it made of ,/
PUT SOM FUCKING MM ON THE SIDE FOR REFERENCE, DUNNO WTF UR ON ABOUT WITH THEM INCHES
I'LL SUBCRIBE WHEN U PUT MM's ON
nobody owes u nuttin homes
keep scrollin
@@littyduck828 Looks like you'll never sub and nobody will EVER give a single shit that you don't, so GTFO. Its an American manufacturing channel so they will use imperial. They dont have to do shit for anyone here.
The Hello Kitty channel is a few more clicks that way ----------->
This episode has really too much "MERICAAAA" in it for me.
Ghost gun 101?
No. Its a grip for a 2011 frame. Its not the frame itself.
All this effort for something so stupid. Imagine what we could do if people were putting their energy toward something that would make life better
All the effort to make such a point less comment when you could've complimented their work instead of hating.
If only they would teach the full process from reverse engineering to machining; allowing people to take that knowledge to do the same on their own parts... That would be great. oh wait...
Who knew you snowflakes could be so easily….triggered. Seriously tho Bro, I’m sure the first 8 year old that sees your gun will think it’s sick….initially.
What's stupid is you failing to see this as an example of a process, that you can take and re-purpose to your own needs
Who knew you snowflakes could be so easily…..triggered. Seriously tho Bro, I’m sure the first 8 year old that sees the finished product will think it’s SICK…..initially.
I am master of cnc milling and lathe programmer designer operater how to apply this company
You're obviously not a master of search engines. You'd think that would be a basic requirement of being a blah-blah-blah, too.
@@NegativeROG not blah blah actually collect blah blah blah life is over 😅
@@Salmanchishtioffical You want to apply to a company but can't figure out how to use the internet to get their contact information? I wouldn't hire someone that lacked such skills.
CAD is so much more sexy than FEA when it comes to designing things. Great video...🇺🇸📏🔧📐🇺🇸