GPRs are perfect for those who have just enough of a budget for ONE very good rifle. Besides, the Bruce Lee quote, "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times" applies with firearms too. I'd rather master one rifle than be just ok with five.
No BS or drama. Too much logic and common sense. You will never get 100K subscribers. You will only get serious non-larper bro's. Nicely done sir, thank you.
I’ve cleared numerous rooms with a SAW and an M16a4. A 16 in barrel isn’t hard to maneuver in a structure at all my man. People always make a big deal about having a super short rifle for CQB while we cleared with Machine Guns and 20 in barrels. I believe 16 in barrel is ideal
I get what your saying but I think 16in overall is the most ideal but when you run standard-long suppressors your 16in barrel becomes 22+ inches very quickly mean while my 10.3 inch super duty with a surfire rc2 comes in right at 16in so I think it’s mostly METTC dependent really if I’m picking up something to be a multi too with no suppressor I’ll take a 16in all day but other features might take priority or precedence depending on the mission especially considering 80% of Americans live in urban areas
I can tell you this much.. there is a significant difference between an 11.5 build and a 16 inch build. Especially talking about maneuverability inside and the speed at which you do it. Doing flat range drills most of the day and then going into cqc work is night and day difference between the two builds
Any weapon you're proficient with is relevant, the whole flavor of the week meta thing has always made me roll my eyes. You can see through out multiple conflicts going on in the middle east and Europe that weapons from wwII are still being actively used today. A man with a 50 year old 30-06 in walmart camo can still be a big problem for someone.
Honestly since a huge majority of us will probably never have to use our rifles outside of our military service, a GPR is the way to go. Great video, I’m subscribing
@@angelavila8722 anything 10” to 20”, between 5lb and 15lb, a 3x magnifier or better magnification, and a competent shooter. Is capable of engaging a man size target from 0-500 yards. Everything else is user preference. Understand what a night fight looks like for you and have your rifle ready for that. Might be white light, might be IR, might be both, might be just the moonlight, depending on terrain, enemy, and budget. And yes sir we clapped cheeks with 20” fixed stock muskets, belt feds, and under mounted 203. Optimize what gear you can but never forget, gear will never replace skill and mindset.
In many ways this is all stuff I think I knew and most people coming to a video like this knows. It’s what’s incredible is having all this information in a small 6-7 min package. Short but quality content like this is incredible useful when getting new people into the hobby, I would have just rambled for 30 minutes and barely got all this info out.
The way I look at it is I like to have a simple red dot rifle with a light for my "cqb" or home defense rifle at 14.5, and then a 14.5 URGI as my GPR. I think everyone should have about two rifles. One set up for close range or night stuff, and one set up that they wouldn't feel too bad pushing into any role but doesn't excel in any dedicated option.
I agree. I lean towards having three rifles. One like you said for CQB and night stuff. One for hunting game specifically, and one for general use. I’m still waiting on you to drop more vids man! You’ve got great stuff and I’ve been watching you for a hot minute
actually working on my GPR now, funny enough as you mentioned its an AR-10 308 @13.5". Ballistics with 150gr federal fusion are 2560 muzzle velocity. packing 5.56 muzzle energy levels out to 325yrds with short LOP, coming in at 30.5" OAL running a vortex red dot/3x mag combo to keep the weight down pretty heavy cookie cutter muzzle brake but short so trade off on OAL will be going with a DNT hydra or infitac fmp 13 with a qd mount. swap off mag for thermal when needed So far im right at 8lbs 9oz weight as sits. with just brake and dot on both, its coming in at just 14oz heavier then my 16" 5.56 wich for the added performance and shorter OAL....id say is a worthy trade off for just 14oz's extra id say its about the best GPR you can trade off for. id say GPR are more then relevant. how often would you really take a shot past 350yrds?? anything out that far is probably not a direct threat, unless its a marksman, but by 350yrds they would have had you down 100+yrds ago before you noticed them and then its a moot point anyways. With something as small as 30" OAL, doing room clearing is easier then a 16" barrel, but you can clear a building and still have serious knock down power for shots a block away when you come out of it.
I used to be a gun collector when I first got into firearms. I’d grab almost any gun I could get my hands on. Once I got more serious I condensed the amount of guns I owned and focused on my GPR build and keeping a few other guns as well. Best decision I ever made.
Dude, all rifles will do the same thing, no matter what you put on it. Don't fall for hype. Its not like it runs out of batteries and you need a new one , no updates needed. Get me . Simply self defense bud.
Hahaha my man, this Christmas I plan to finally complete mine. My wife is sick of hearing about it and always says “you will never complete this it’s always going to be almost done”. Well I’m poor and it takes a long time to do these for me. Just need a folding front iron, adm bipod QD mount, and a bubble level for my badger mount. 6.5k thus far and 7 years. Takes time
It looks like almost everyone is on the same page for the GPR. Specialized builds are fun, but 90% of us can’t build more than one or two good rifles with our current budgets. I’ve got my 11.5” “shorty” GPR with a 1-8 LPVO, 12 o’clock mini red dot, and suppressor. Then I have a 16” SPR with a 3-18 optic, 12 o’clock mini red dot, and suppressor. All the controls are identical to keep muscle memory the same. And that is all I can legitimately justify for myself.
Great topic!!! I truly wish I had done things somewhat differently when I started. I have tried to educate people not to follow my path because it gets very expensive without you realizing how much you have in each setup. I do believe a GPR is still relevant because in many cases one rifle can achieve most of the things many people are going to do with it. I have gone through the process of defining a role to each of my rifles, but I could never get down to one. I believe I need to have a rifle available for all members in my household (but again that will require them to be trained and proficient). I could get by with one 16”, one suppressed 11.5”, and a backpack style carry option for local travel (rifle caliber PDW). Unfortunately, I want to get into precision rifle and I have chosen to go the bolt gun route. I have taken training and competed with both my 16” and 11.5” and each had their positives and negatives, but in the end I was glad to have the option… Look forward to your precision journey
Another great video. If everything goes sideways, I have my goto lower and 3 uppers and I am out the door.....for about a mile before I have to stop because ammo weighs a ton!
I’d say watch what the SF community does. Given the fact they have evolved from the 20” to the 10.3” back to the 14.5” rifle setup says the GPR is relevant. It is the perfect, do it all rifle. That said, most will never “need” a 14.5” barrel rifle, and the standard 16” carbine will do everything anyone needs it to do. I have three! My main rifle is the LMT R20 RAHE Estonia Reference Rifle. It is equipped with a 14.3” barrel with a muzzle device that extends the length to 16”. It is extremely compact, but still 16”. That rifle is perfectly suited for everything. I also have two 16” rifles made by Radical Firearms. Over all length is just past 16”, but still very light, compact rifles that will do what most need a rifle to do out to 500+ yards.
Your channel and vids continue to grow and blossom. Keep your approach! Don't sell out like some of the others on this platform. Your lines of discussion or opinion are always valued and appreciated as you continue your journey. BTW....the journey never ends.
Something to check out as well would be the 6mm Arc it out performs the 308 at distance and having the power of a 108 grain vs a 62 grain is substantially noticeable seeing the impact at distance as well great video
I was kinda thinking about this, I shot a QP match a few weekends ago, which has the GPR, Practical Precision (PP) and Open classes... I saw a lot more people competing in the PP class vs the GPR class this time. There was one guy on our squad running a 6.5 CM, when you're shooting on time it's a lot of rifle to bring to work. I also have an LR308, and while it's a fantastic long range option, it's never going to compete with 556. Also, since you said you were thinking of going that way, an 18" is going to have a lot less blast than a 16, 16" 308s are just outrageously blasty and would not recommend them. As far as a gun where you might run a suppressor, a 16" SPR is fine there are a lot of good barrel options out there that will still deliver accuracy in the GPR/SPR role. I should probably just go to bed instead of making this comment longer. Good vid, I like what you've been doing.
It's nice and all to have hyper-specialized builds, but the thing to note is that mission dictates gear. ... That's a quote that doesn't really apply to civilians because let's face it, we have zero clue what awaits us and what the "mission" actually is. We're not getting commands from some supreme overlord that can tell us everything we will do at what specific time where and when. As a result, I went with a 16" GPR with a Vortex Razor HD Gen II-E for my optic of choice. It's a rifle for whatever comes up. I'm not looking to be some CQB God who can own any and every house in a 50 mile radius during some apocalyptic situation who only EVER engages in rooms and inside buildings (which is fantasy), and I'm not looking to engage out to 1,000 yards (which is largely a waste of ammo that could be allocated to targets near by). I was just looking for a rifle that could do any realistic situation good enough, and the GPR fills that role perfectly.
I’m running a 16” B.kings barrel with a pinned mid length gas block. With an aero upper and lower. Aero lpk radian safety selector and charging handle. Expo arms rail. Emissary handbrake. Rearden single port brake. Dead air wolfman. Bcm pistol grip and sopmod stock. H2 buffer. A PA 1-6x acss nova in a larue 30mm qd mount With a piggyback hs507c on a Trijicon mount. And a modlite okw head with an arisaka 18650 body ds00 tail switch and a modlite modbutton. Right now just have a no name bcg. But have a bootleg bcg on order
Nice. Great timing again. A 20” precision rifle has such a narrow potential applications for civilians that I can’t recommend it in good faith. Most people should focus on being great with one great and generalized rifle.
Another great video my man. I love your content because you make videos for the average guy that can’t afford all the latest and greatest stuff. You use your 1 rifle and 1 pistol and get to work with them just like most of us here. Thanks again for your content and keep it up dude
Thanks! Yeah, people are surprised when I say I only have one rifle. They think it’s even crazier when I say I choose to spend my money on other hobbies. Guns aren’t a huge percentage of my life.
It’s a strange choice to a lot of people, but my GPR rifle is an 11.5 Rosco barreled CAR-15/Commando build with a Primary Arms 3x micro prism and fixed carry handle fiber optic sights, a light and sling. I usually run it with a can. I can hit at 400 no problem all day with it, and a bit further if I do my part.
For your 16 inch 308 I personally have a Ruger SFAR. Still havent gotten enough time behind it but from what I can tell so far is the rifle is smooth for it's lightweight. The only thing that may prove to be an issue is the gas depending on if you got a SERNO before Rugers QA on that specific function got better.
Recoil control looks like an airsoft gun. Funny to watch this video after seeing a bunch of dudes shoot 5.56 looking like theyre trying to wrangle a semi auto 50cal 😂 fantastic vid 🫡 got a new sub 🤝
Nice vid !! What muzzle you running ? Seen a few of your vids and looks like it makes it shoot real flat which I like I have the same rifle and really like your current build
Only thing I have that's "general purpose" is the lower receiver. I have different uppers set up for different things. Multiple uppers costs more than just 1 rig, but most of us go down the AR rabbit hole and spend more $$ anyway. In addition, it's highly doubtful that us civilians will be in a situation where we wouldn't have time to swap uppers for the task at hand...if so, a task specific AR will be the least concern. That's been my take on it anyway.
All depends on the scenario. An opposing force coming towards your town calls for different actions than you trying to survive for 8 months in a SHTF scenario. In the latter example, you might be able to link up with family, friends, and other like minded individuals. And each day’s “mission” might call for a different upper. It’s a huge what if game that will never have the right answer haha. But what’s most important is that you’re equipped
I have a 13.9" 5.56 gun, and an 18" AR-10 chambered in .308. Go with 6.5 Creedmoor instead of .308 my man. I wish I would have. Once you start getting into Match grade ammunitions, which you will want for ultimate precision, the price difference between the two is negligible. 6mm ARC has definitely caught my eye though, the performance is pretty crazy and being compatible with small-frame platforms is a big plus.
You should give 6.5 Grendel or 6mm ARC a strong look. You can use the same ar15 platform, but have much better long range performance. 90% of the parts will transfer as well, which results in great redundancy.
GPR is best area to start, when funds come in and you feel "i need something better at this job" than build something more specialized making it another tool for your toolshed
hey - just curious, im running a near identical optic setup as you. On your Trex 35 degree offset mount with the extended height spacer plate on the holosun, what screws are you using to attach the holosun to the mount with the riser plate? are you using Just the longer screws that the trex mount came with? Since trex arms specs that mount for an rmr, and because holosun uses a 90 degree countersunk head, the 82 degree "longer" screws that the mount came with dont really fit my holosun and i cant find the screws anywhere to match the mount up.
GPR is best for solo's or people on a budget. If SHTF, im not grabbing more than 2 rifles and 2 pistols. My 16" AR is a GPR. 1-6x lpvo, 16" barrel, foregrip, bipod, light, warcomp muzzle device if i happen to find some nice suppressor loot after SHTF
So Just throwing the question out there coming from no combat experience. No weapon experience, just a curious question. Would a 20inch barrel bullpup help overcome those major drawbacks?
a few yes, shorter package and longer barrel, but trade offs. Generaly speaking no bullpups have the same acuracy levels, most are 1.5-2 MOA at best ive seen. so longer 3-400yrd shots would be less acurate. plus ergonomics are diffrent and not for everyone. personally, im waiting for a good 16" 308 bullpup to come out and id defiantly scope it up and build it as a GPR.
When I see videos like this it makes me want to sell some of my AR’s. All I’ve built for one reason or another but narrowing it down to 2 maybe 3 is not a bad idea…
My only argument with the whole video is saying it cant compete accuracy wise with a 20" precision gun. The accuracy can be there, just not the velocity. Theres alot of mid length barrels out there that compete extremely well. My rosco 16" purebred competes with my $900 proof barrel in my RD15 in baseline accuracy, but when you look at heat soak and barricate/rest deflection the proof shines
I think it's the only rifle that is relevant, good enough at everything like you said. I run 16 inch rifles and swap a 3x between them. I do want to get a 1-8 , getting harder to see.
Depending on what type of shooting is required in your area I’d suggest emphasizing the reticle over the magnification power. Just my 2 cents if you’re going to drop some coin on an optic
I also cut down my number of rifles. I now only have 2, both Sig Sauer Spear LT's. One is a 5.56 11.5, with a lpvo and a dot and the other is a 9-inch 300 blackout red dot/laser. I have a 16-inch barrel with a handguard for my 5.56 if I decide to go with a longer barrel. My area has a lot of elevation change so 11.5 is good enough for my location. I agree with focusing on the ability to use your equipment effectively through training.
When I read comments like this, it shows me the commenter is well educated. You’ve taken your personal situation, evaluated your conditions, and built your tools to perform optimally in those environments. Good stuff!
Important part is "effectively" but with a GPR 13.7-16 you can.... Red dot/magnifier 0-400yd LPVO 0-500 MPVO 25-600/700 And ridgeline has proven you can do a mile with a 16" setup right. No it isnt the perfect rifle, but itll work if setup correctly with the right ammo
Granted I haven't watched all of this yet, but I feel for the vast majority a GPR is enough for majority. However, my GPR which in a sense is my "EDC" rifle, does not fill out the role for a purposed rifle, and for me that is the belt fed to fill a machine gunner role. I dont feel that most really fit the Recce build gun or a few other specialized slots
Of course if thats all that one person has, then they would be rather proficient and accurate with that rifle and be very knowledgable about the accessories and capablities it can produce.
A "general purpose" rifle will NEVER be irrelevant. You're not losing much ballistically dropping to a 14.5 but you're also not gaining much by dropping 1.5" either; especially if you're adding a 5" or 6" suppressor
Well we all know you make great videos, so once again great video ma brutha! Bringing the knowledge! I still rock my 16inch GPR, exact same setup. Its my go to as well, but i do have a 10.5 as well. Only two ar's i own.
It’s not so much the rifle or the tool. It’s the caliber and the ranges you can expect to get it from it. For a GPR my go to is a red dot magnifier combo. 18” 5.56 is solid. 16” is as short as I personally would like to see. I’m looking for a maximum terminal ballistics out to 500 yards max. 300 yards is that sweet spot. M193 is what I like to shoot. So of course my choice is tailored around that. It’s all a factor including weight when it comes to GPR. Do as much as you can because you’re carrying the limitations of those around you.
of course GPR's are relevant, its cool to have a safe full of dedicated rifle builds, but when it comes down to it, you can only use/ carry one at a time, so you need one that can do pretty much anything, at least within reason
@@ConcreteCowboyx lately ive been playing around with a "paired combo" concept. essentially a single lower with 2 uppers, one for close/ medium, and then a 16" spr upper with heaver barrel and larger glass. one can carry the shorter lighter upper and attach the spr upper to a pack, its alot easier to pack an upper than an entire rifle. then once you get to a specific overlook type of location, you can swap the uppers .
Yes, it's the best rifle for if you have to leave your location/refugee-like life. Long enough to be effective at reasonable distance, short enough to be maneuverable. Jack of all trades, master of none. All the specialized rifles like SPR, DMR, Precision are good for when you have intelligence on your engagements or your environment, or can plan ahead of time, but the GPR will be the best fallback if you have to relocate or have no idea what you're up against.
By definition "general purpose" means you can do most things good enough. A "Gordon" rifle is still really good set up 30+ years later. For a modern build a 16, mid length with A5 buffer and a red dot/3x prism is about as much of a "Goldie locks" gun as you can get. Most people aren't pushing past 300m so an lpvo is not that big of an advantage over a fixed power.
True! But I do shoot at distance quit a bit so I know having those extended powers is beneficial for me. Will never do it in a self preservation scenario? Probably not. But I’m confident with my abilities out to 500 yards, so I need my gear to complement that skill set
@@ConcreteCowboyx any set up needs to be based on your environment. If you have somewhere that you can routinely make 400+ shots then an lpvo makes sense. If you live in thick woods where 100m is pushing it a red dot or 3x does the job.
While I agree with the premise of the video I do not agree with the statement that ballistics from a 14.5” and 16” barrel are similar. A 14.5” is a 300 yard gun while a 16” barrel is a 500 yard gun, 600 yards if you’re using 77 grain from Black Hills. It’s my opinion a GP rifle in 5.56 should have 16” barrel. Short enough to be maneuverable but long enough to reach out when needed.
All comes down to your testing. With my 77 grain I get minimal velocity differences and I get very similar outputs on my ballistic calculator out to 500. Ammo plays a big role so you’ll need to experiment with your specific setup. But for me and a few of the guys I shoot with, we don’t lose an astronomical amount of performance going down from a 16” to a 14.5” pin and welded.
Gpr is the most relevant rifle there will ever be. Most people aren't like us where we have different guns for every use we can think of. Most people have 1 rifle that can do everything decently well.
More things change the more they stay the same. GPR, do-it-all, Recce rifle all the same. Name changes but it’s all about doing as much as possible with what you got.
Who cares ? Do you like it ? Can you run it? Does it do what you need? Remeber if something isn’t cool, just gotta give it time eventually it’ll be cool again! “Time is a flat circle”
General purpose rifle? I've been using a 7.62x39 Saiga for years. I am faster than most, can do CQB with it, and long range. Have hunted with it. A rifle is a rifle and it is designed to do what you need it to do. Sure there are better cartridge, this is true. However, I am faster and have more precise than most because I know my rifle inside in out. I never understood having a more than one rifle for multiple situations, you just need one to do it's job. Yes, I have a shotgun an a pistol, but that rifle is what I will always grab. By narrowing all this down you have more money and room for ammo, mags, and parts for your rifle.
@ Exactly. Training is the most important thing. It alone will give you better understanding than using multiple rifles. I’ve learned from veterans who went to war and that alone showed me a significant difference compared to people who speak so much about what you need on a rifle. Mine has a hand stop, optic and flashlight. Perfectly fine.
The only thing that is relevant is the skill of the shooter. The gun doesn't matter too much. Like yeah, you want a quality rifle. But all this craze over the latest trends is stupid. GPR, SPR, CQBR--it doesn't matter. Run your gun. How fast can you put the bullets where bullets need to go? Can you do it on demand? That's what is relevant. IMO Guntube should shift from constant gear reviews to skill development but that doesn't bring in the views apparently. People just wanna talk about guns not shooting.
In the videos defense, that was my initial thoughts before I watched it. I live in rural area, spend a lot of time here. Occasionally I have to go into the city for work. I need to be able to shoot out to 400+ yards as well as 10 yards. I’m not a huge fan of LPVO’s, but they’re the best tool for my needs.
@@ConcreteCowboyx I can tell you, the bubba’s around me who can only afford one rifle and not spend copious amounts of money on a rifle for every individual task, are choosing training over gadgets.
There's a strong argument that longer barrels and the added velocity they offer will be necessary in the next American conflict. The argument goes (over simplified of course) that for now we have military and law enforcement protection. So any length AR works. As soon as that changes you find yourself where the people hunting you will likely be wearing armor and badges. With that in mind, armor starts to fail at somewhere between 2900 and 3250 feet per second; depending on the quality of the armor. A 14.5 will be pushing somewhere around 2750. Add approximately 50fps per inch thereafter. Add to this the evolving threat of drones. No, not the bird like drones that are perfect for shotguns...think robot dogs or robot people. It's already here. For these threats you will need to puncture the light armor protecting the battery or processor. Choose accordingly, Phil
I have a 16” with a red dot and 3x magnifier. Still poor so thought this was the best set up for the money. However, in terms of GPR, seems like most are running LPVOs. Would appreciate a vid on whether it’s worth it to upgrade optic set ups or prioritize something else.
GPRs are perfect for those who have just enough of a budget for ONE very good rifle. Besides, the Bruce Lee quote, "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times" applies with firearms too. I'd rather master one rifle than be just ok with five.
Very well said
This is why we stick with one system, like Armalite AR, many flavors. Easier with others as there is little caliber or operation variation.
No BS or drama. Too much logic and common sense. You will never get 100K subscribers. You will only get serious non-larper bro's. Nicely done sir, thank you.
I appreciate that!
But i’m a serious larper, bro. :(
Very true.
@@David-mz8mo we'll overlook your character defects!
All training is larping
I’ve cleared numerous rooms with a SAW and an M16a4. A 16 in barrel isn’t hard to maneuver in a structure at all my man. People always make a big deal about having a super short rifle for CQB while we cleared with Machine Guns and 20 in barrels. I believe 16 in barrel is ideal
I agree. 16” really isn’t that long, but social media states otherwise
Agreed! It's all about training with what you got at the end of the day
Long enough to reach out and touch something. Not overly massive. Short enough to easily maneuver
I carry my 16” in the truck daily.
I get what your saying but I think 16in overall is the most ideal but when you run standard-long suppressors your 16in barrel becomes 22+ inches very quickly mean while my 10.3 inch super duty with a surfire rc2 comes in right at 16in so I think it’s mostly METTC dependent really if I’m picking up something to be a multi too with no suppressor I’ll take a 16in all day but other features might take priority or precedence depending on the mission especially considering 80% of Americans live in urban areas
I can tell you this much.. there is a significant difference between an 11.5 build and a 16 inch build. Especially talking about maneuverability inside and the speed at which you do it. Doing flat range drills most of the day and then going into cqc work is night and day difference between the two builds
Any weapon you're proficient with is relevant, the whole flavor of the week meta thing has always made me roll my eyes.
You can see through out multiple conflicts going on in the middle east and Europe that weapons from wwII are still being actively used today. A man with a 50 year old 30-06 in walmart camo can still be a big problem for someone.
He can be a MAJOR problem for most
Not for me, I watch A LOT of UA-cam....
Honestly since a huge majority of us will probably never have to use our rifles outside of our military service, a GPR is the way to go.
Great video, I’m subscribing
Any realistically built fighting rifle is a GPR
Agreed
People do forget our military was kicking butt mostly with 20” rifles with maybe an ACOG on them lol If you train well enough, everything is a GPR.
@@angelavila8722 anything 10” to 20”, between 5lb and 15lb, a 3x magnifier or better magnification, and a competent shooter. Is capable of engaging a man size target from 0-500 yards. Everything else is user preference. Understand what a night fight looks like for you and have your rifle ready for that. Might be white light, might be IR, might be both, might be just the moonlight, depending on terrain, enemy, and budget.
And yes sir we clapped cheeks with 20” fixed stock muskets, belt feds, and under mounted 203. Optimize what gear you can but never forget, gear will never replace skill and mindset.
@@GWOTalchemwell said. Welcome home
@ been back a hot minute but thx big dawg. 🫡
In many ways this is all stuff I think I knew and most people coming to a video like this knows. It’s what’s incredible is having all this information in a small 6-7 min package. Short but quality content like this is incredible useful when getting new people into the hobby, I would have just rambled for 30 minutes and barely got all this info out.
The way I look at it is I like to have a simple red dot rifle with a light for my "cqb" or home defense rifle at 14.5, and then a 14.5 URGI as my GPR. I think everyone should have about two rifles. One set up for close range or night stuff, and one set up that they wouldn't feel too bad pushing into any role but doesn't excel in any dedicated option.
I agree. I lean towards having three rifles. One like you said for CQB and night stuff. One for hunting game specifically, and one for general use. I’m still waiting on you to drop more vids man! You’ve got great stuff and I’ve been watching you for a hot minute
I agree 100%
Great video man and GPRs definitely are still relevant if not mandatory. My 13.7 is my go to and mainly went that length for my chungus can.
Cans are a must. I need to get one
@ I’d def get a different can all over again and there’s a lot of new stuff on the market. Just go figure out what u want and research
GPRs are ALWAYS relevant. Every rifle i have, i prefer to be well balanced and versatile in many areas... Just like my grindr profile.
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For research purposes, how would I find you on grindr? Lol
@shaynelhta "FragMyAss" or "DoorKickinTOP" depending of the OPSEC/SOP/ROE
actually working on my GPR now, funny enough as you mentioned its an AR-10 308 @13.5".
Ballistics with 150gr federal fusion are 2560 muzzle velocity. packing 5.56 muzzle energy levels out to 325yrds
with short LOP, coming in at 30.5" OAL
running a vortex red dot/3x mag combo to keep the weight down
pretty heavy cookie cutter muzzle brake but short so trade off on OAL
will be going with a DNT hydra or infitac fmp 13 with a qd mount.
swap off mag for thermal when needed
So far im right at 8lbs 9oz weight as sits.
with just brake and dot on both, its coming in at just 14oz heavier then my 16" 5.56 wich for the added performance and shorter OAL....id say is a worthy trade off for just 14oz's extra
id say its about the best GPR you can trade off for. id say GPR are more then relevant. how often would you really take a shot past 350yrds?? anything out that far is probably not a direct threat, unless its a marksman, but by 350yrds they would have had you down 100+yrds ago before you noticed them and then its a moot point anyways. With something as small as 30" OAL, doing room clearing is easier then a 16" barrel, but you can clear a building and still have serious knock down power for shots a block away when you come out of it.
that intro music with shots ringing out in the background is what I go to sleep too
I used to be a gun collector when I first got into firearms. I’d grab almost any gun I could get my hands on. Once I got more serious I condensed the amount of guns I owned and focused on my GPR build and keeping a few other guns as well. Best decision I ever made.
You made a smart decision
I did that before I even bought any lmao
Don't want anything that doesn't have a purpose tbh better for the pockets too 😂
I hope it is still relevant, I'm almost done building mine out.
Haha it will forever be relevant
More relevant than any other rifle/carbine format.
Dude, all rifles will do the same thing, no matter what you put on it. Don't fall for hype. Its not like it runs out of batteries and you need a new one , no updates needed. Get me . Simply self defense bud.
and i just finished!
Hahaha my man, this Christmas I plan to finally complete mine. My wife is sick of hearing about it and always says “you will never complete this it’s always going to be almost done”. Well I’m poor and it takes a long time to do these for me. Just need a folding front iron, adm bipod QD mount, and a bubble level for my badger mount. 6.5k thus far and 7 years. Takes time
Just stumbled across your channel. Solid advice with a detailed explanation of your reasoning. Thanks for the content.
It looks like almost everyone is on the same page for the GPR. Specialized builds are fun, but 90% of us can’t build more than one or two good rifles with our current budgets. I’ve got my 11.5” “shorty” GPR with a 1-8 LPVO, 12 o’clock mini red dot, and suppressor. Then I have a 16” SPR with a 3-18 optic, 12 o’clock mini red dot, and suppressor. All the controls are identical to keep muscle memory the same. And that is all I can legitimately justify for myself.
Yep, GPR’s are more practical. But specialized builds are also very important for specific missions and tasks
Great topic!!! I truly wish I had done things somewhat differently when I started. I have tried to educate people not to follow my path because it gets very expensive without you realizing how much you have in each setup. I do believe a GPR is still relevant because in many cases one rifle can achieve most of the things many people are going to do with it. I have gone through the process of defining a role to each of my rifles, but I could never get down to one. I believe I need to have a rifle available for all members in my household (but again that will require them to be trained and proficient). I could get by with one 16”, one suppressed 11.5”, and a backpack style carry option for local travel (rifle caliber PDW). Unfortunately, I want to get into precision rifle and I have chosen to go the bolt gun route. I have taken training and competed with both my 16” and 11.5” and each had their positives and negatives, but in the end I was glad to have the option… Look forward to your precision journey
Man I feel this in so many ways. It’s the want for many setups that can get us caught up haha. So I get it
Another great video. If everything goes sideways, I have my goto lower and 3 uppers and I am out the door.....for about a mile before I have to stop because ammo weighs a ton!
Haha I’d prioritize ammo over uppers
@ agree, I would grab my shorty and 6.5 grendel upper and all the ammo I could carry.
Awesome video! Really appreciate the content.
Appreciate it!
Just using the 16” heavy do all, creates a solid shoulder / arm workout at the range. 😂
Gotta hit those weights lol
I’d say watch what the SF community does. Given the fact they have evolved from the 20” to the 10.3” back to the 14.5” rifle setup says the GPR is relevant. It is the perfect, do it all rifle. That said, most will never “need” a 14.5” barrel rifle, and the standard 16” carbine will do everything anyone needs it to do. I have three!
My main rifle is the LMT R20 RAHE Estonia Reference Rifle. It is equipped with a 14.3” barrel with a muzzle device that extends the length to 16”. It is extremely compact, but still 16”. That rifle is perfectly suited for everything. I also have two 16” rifles made by Radical Firearms. Over all length is just past 16”, but still very light, compact rifles that will do what most need a rifle to do out to 500+ yards.
I would’ve gotten a 14.5” over my 16” if I was more educated when I started my firearm journey. But great advice about keeping an eye on SF guys
@ Great content! Enjoy your channel.
That Estonia rifle and the NZ rifle are a stroke of genius. I really dug the idea of
@ Both great rifles made to end user requests. Beasts!
@oleboy7615 the Army could use a bit of that logic instead of the monstrosity that the M7 is shaping up to be.
Signing up for my first uspsa match coming up next weekend cause of your videos.
That’s freaking awesome! Hope you have fun!
@ it ended up being mad fun, got 30th out of 37. And now have a better idea of what I need to work on
Your channel and vids continue to grow and blossom. Keep your approach! Don't sell out like some of the others on this platform. Your lines of discussion or opinion are always valued and appreciated as you continue your journey. BTW....the journey never ends.
Yo I really appreciate those kind words. I hope to stay as honest as possible throughout my journey
I’m fortunate enough to have both 16” and 11.5” builds but starting with a 16 or 14.5 and getting separate uppers is definitely also a good option.
Something to check out as well would be the 6mm Arc it out performs the 308 at distance and having the power of a 108 grain vs a 62 grain is substantially noticeable seeing the impact at distance as well great video
Outstanding video on this topic. You covered so much information and did it under 10 minutes.
You kept it real with pros and cons. Great job sir! 🫡
Haha not every video needs to be super long. But most people do that because UA-cam pays more for longer videos. I just want to educate
@ you nailed it for sure.
I was kinda thinking about this, I shot a QP match a few weekends ago, which has the GPR, Practical Precision (PP) and Open classes... I saw a lot more people competing in the PP class vs the GPR class this time. There was one guy on our squad running a 6.5 CM, when you're shooting on time it's a lot of rifle to bring to work. I also have an LR308, and while it's a fantastic long range option, it's never going to compete with 556. Also, since you said you were thinking of going that way, an 18" is going to have a lot less blast than a 16, 16" 308s are just outrageously blasty and would not recommend them. As far as a gun where you might run a suppressor, a 16" SPR is fine there are a lot of good barrel options out there that will still deliver accuracy in the GPR/SPR role.
I should probably just go to bed instead of making this comment longer. Good vid, I like what you've been doing.
It's nice and all to have hyper-specialized builds, but the thing to note is that mission dictates gear.
... That's a quote that doesn't really apply to civilians because let's face it, we have zero clue what awaits us and what the "mission" actually is. We're not getting commands from some supreme overlord that can tell us everything we will do at what specific time where and when.
As a result, I went with a 16" GPR with a Vortex Razor HD Gen II-E for my optic of choice. It's a rifle for whatever comes up. I'm not looking to be some CQB God who can own any and every house in a 50 mile radius during some apocalyptic situation who only EVER engages in rooms and inside buildings (which is fantasy), and I'm not looking to engage out to 1,000 yards (which is largely a waste of ammo that could be allocated to targets near by). I was just looking for a rifle that could do any realistic situation good enough, and the GPR fills that role perfectly.
I’m running a 16” B.kings barrel with a pinned mid length gas block. With an aero upper and lower. Aero lpk radian safety selector and charging handle. Expo arms rail. Emissary handbrake. Rearden single port brake. Dead air wolfman. Bcm pistol grip and sopmod stock. H2 buffer. A PA 1-6x acss nova in a larue 30mm qd mount With a piggyback hs507c on a Trijicon mount. And a modlite okw head with an arisaka 18650 body ds00 tail switch and a modlite modbutton. Right now just have a no name bcg. But have a bootleg bcg on order
Solid build dude!
Nice. Great timing again. A 20” precision rifle has such a narrow potential applications for civilians that I can’t recommend it in good faith. Most people should focus on being great with one great and generalized rifle.
Yes sir. Training should be top priority
Another great video my man. I love your content because you make videos for the average guy that can’t afford all the latest and greatest stuff. You use your 1 rifle and 1 pistol and get to work with them just like most of us here. Thanks again for your content and keep it up dude
Thanks! Yeah, people are surprised when I say I only have one rifle. They think it’s even crazier when I say I choose to spend my money on other hobbies. Guns aren’t a huge percentage of my life.
It’s a strange choice to a lot of people, but my GPR rifle is an 11.5 Rosco barreled CAR-15/Commando build with a Primary Arms 3x micro prism and fixed carry handle fiber optic sights, a light and sling. I usually run it with a can. I can hit at 400 no problem all day with it, and a bit further if I do my part.
Current "gpr" is a 14.5 prism/dot combo that's 90% done. Current main is 12.5 dot/mag combo w/ can and light.
Edit: subscribed
For your 16 inch 308 I personally have a Ruger SFAR. Still havent gotten enough time behind it but from what I can tell so far is the rifle is smooth for it's lightweight. The only thing that may prove to be an issue is the gas depending on if you got a SERNO before Rugers QA on that specific function got better.
Good to know!
@ConcreteCowboyx get a Riflespeed gas block like Hop did for his SFAR
Found this video and watched some of your videos. Great stuff.
Awesome, thank you!
Recoil control looks like an airsoft gun. Funny to watch this video after seeing a bunch of dudes shoot 5.56 looking like theyre trying to wrangle a semi auto 50cal 😂 fantastic vid 🫡 got a new sub 🤝
The SOPMOD is cleeeeean, can you access the storage tubes without removing the stock? I wanna get the B5 SOPMOD, currently have the Bravo.
Yes you can! No disassembly required
Nice vid !! What muzzle you running ? Seen a few of your vids and looks like it makes it shoot real flat which I like I have the same rifle and really like your current build
Good assessment, myself I prefer multiple rifles for the several purposes I use them for especially for competition use.
Only thing I have that's "general purpose" is the lower receiver. I have different uppers set up for different things. Multiple uppers costs more than just 1 rig, but most of us go down the AR rabbit hole and spend more $$ anyway. In addition, it's highly doubtful that us civilians will be in a situation where we wouldn't have time to swap uppers for the task at hand...if so, a task specific AR will be the least concern. That's been my take on it anyway.
All depends on the scenario. An opposing force coming towards your town calls for different actions than you trying to survive for 8 months in a SHTF scenario. In the latter example, you might be able to link up with family, friends, and other like minded individuals. And each day’s “mission” might call for a different upper. It’s a huge what if game that will never have the right answer haha. But what’s most important is that you’re equipped
I have a 13.9" 5.56 gun, and an 18" AR-10 chambered in .308. Go with 6.5 Creedmoor instead of .308 my man. I wish I would have. Once you start getting into Match grade ammunitions, which you will want for ultimate precision, the price difference between the two is negligible. 6mm ARC has definitely caught my eye though, the performance is pretty crazy and being compatible with small-frame platforms is a big plus.
Great video brother, been working on a GPR this was good information
What kind of flashlight are you using on your GPR?
You should give 6.5 Grendel or 6mm ARC a strong look. You can use the same ar15 platform, but have much better long range performance. 90% of the parts will transfer as well, which results in great redundancy.
GPR is best area to start, when funds come in and you feel "i need something better at this job" than build something more specialized making it another tool for your toolshed
Can’t complain with this game plan
My gf says “SHOW YOURSELF”
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hey - just curious, im running a near identical optic setup as you. On your Trex 35 degree offset mount with the extended height spacer plate on the holosun, what screws are you using to attach the holosun to the mount with the riser plate? are you using Just the longer screws that the trex mount came with? Since trex arms specs that mount for an rmr, and because holosun uses a 90 degree countersunk head, the 82 degree "longer" screws that the mount came with dont really fit my holosun and i cant find the screws anywhere to match the mount up.
GPR is best for solo's or people on a budget. If SHTF, im not grabbing more than 2 rifles and 2 pistols. My 16" AR is a GPR. 1-6x lpvo, 16" barrel, foregrip, bipod, light, warcomp muzzle device if i happen to find some nice suppressor loot after SHTF
So Just throwing the question out there coming from no combat experience. No weapon experience, just a curious question.
Would a 20inch barrel bullpup help overcome those major drawbacks?
The bullpup will give you a more compact package, but will probably still have similar drawbacks as the AR
a few yes, shorter package and longer barrel, but trade offs. Generaly speaking no bullpups have the same acuracy levels, most are 1.5-2 MOA at best ive seen. so longer 3-400yrd shots would be less acurate. plus ergonomics are diffrent and not for everyone. personally, im waiting for a good 16" 308 bullpup to come out and id defiantly scope it up and build it as a GPR.
When I see videos like this it makes me want to sell some of my AR’s. All I’ve built for one reason or another but narrowing it down to 2 maybe 3 is not a bad idea…
My only argument with the whole video is saying it cant compete accuracy wise with a 20" precision gun. The accuracy can be there, just not the velocity. Theres alot of mid length barrels out there that compete extremely well. My rosco 16" purebred competes with my $900 proof barrel in my RD15 in baseline accuracy, but when you look at heat soak and barricate/rest deflection the proof shines
I think it's the only rifle that is relevant, good enough at everything like you said. I run 16 inch rifles and swap a 3x between them. I do want to get a 1-8 , getting harder to see.
Depending on what type of shooting is required in your area I’d suggest emphasizing the reticle over the magnification power. Just my 2 cents if you’re going to drop some coin on an optic
@CiviTac man i have no idea what to get, what is gonna be good for 400 yards and In
I also cut down my number of rifles. I now only have 2, both Sig Sauer Spear LT's. One is a 5.56 11.5, with a lpvo and a dot and the other is a 9-inch 300 blackout red dot/laser. I have a 16-inch barrel with a handguard for my 5.56 if I decide to go with a longer barrel. My area has a lot of elevation change so 11.5 is good enough for my location. I agree with focusing on the ability to use your equipment effectively through training.
When I read comments like this, it shows me the commenter is well educated. You’ve taken your personal situation, evaluated your conditions, and built your tools to perform optimally in those environments. Good stuff!
Important part is "effectively" but with a GPR 13.7-16 you can....
Red dot/magnifier 0-400yd
LPVO 0-500
MPVO 25-600/700
And ridgeline has proven you can do a mile with a 16" setup right. No it isnt the perfect rifle, but itll work if setup correctly with the right ammo
Nice video. What muzzle device is that?
Precision Armament EFAB
I’d like to build something similar but 14.5 pinned and welded and put a K suppressor on it 😈
I kind of want it do that too
10.5", red dot, detachable light. I would never engage a Target at more than a couple hundred yards...
Your page has become my favorite
I’m honored
Where is your chest rig from?
TREX ARMS
Granted I haven't watched all of this yet, but I feel for the vast majority a GPR is enough for majority. However, my GPR which in a sense is my "EDC" rifle, does not fill out the role for a purposed rifle, and for me that is the belt fed to fill a machine gunner role. I dont feel that most really fit the Recce build gun or a few other specialized slots
I need to start making some Monday matches
Definitely do
Hi, thanks for the video.
How is that EFAB treating you on that 16 incher?
The EFAB is AMAZING. I can definitely recommend it for hard use
@@ConcreteCowboyx Thanks! alright I'll give it a spin :)
I have a feeling that this guy might be a redbull fan.
Hey bro what trigger is that?
Triggertech duty trigger
Of course if thats all that one person has, then they would be rather proficient and accurate with that rifle and be very knowledgable about the accessories and capablities it can produce.
if you want to jump into the bigger cartridges get a longer barrel 22 inches and above. Better SDs
I’ll consider it! I have to do more research
Great video and shooting shots
Thanks!
A "general purpose" rifle will NEVER be irrelevant.
You're not losing much ballistically dropping to a 14.5 but you're also not gaining much by dropping 1.5" either; especially if you're adding a 5" or 6" suppressor
People forget about the suppressor adding dwell time. It’s very minimal, but it does add FPS
Well we all know you make great videos, so once again great video ma brutha! Bringing the knowledge! I still rock my 16inch GPR, exact same setup. Its my go to as well, but i do have a 10.5 as well. Only two ar's i own.
Hey I say own as many as you want! This is America! Thanks for the support!
So long as the laws of physics remain the same and the ar15 isn’t rendered obsolete it will always be relevant
I like this a lot lol
If u can only have 1 rifle for a SHTF situation id say a 14.5 with a LVPO or red dots/magnifier, light and suppressor is the best do all set up.
Not wrong here
M16A4 with bomb proof acog, bomb proof M5 RAS rail, back up rear iron sight and fixed front sight. If I could only keep one
It’s not so much the rifle or the tool. It’s the caliber and the ranges you can expect to get it from it. For a GPR my go to is a red dot magnifier combo. 18” 5.56 is solid. 16” is as short as I personally would like to see. I’m looking for a maximum terminal ballistics out to 500 yards max. 300 yards is that sweet spot. M193 is what I like to shoot. So of course my choice is tailored around that. It’s all a factor including weight when it comes to GPR. Do as much as you can because you’re carrying the limitations of those around you.
Good points here
of course GPR's are relevant, its cool to have a safe full of dedicated rifle builds, but when it comes down to it, you can only use/ carry one at a time, so you need one that can do pretty much anything, at least within reason
Yep! My point exactly. You can’t shoot 10 rifles at once (theoretically) but having one general use setup will take you pretty far.
@@ConcreteCowboyx lately ive been playing around with a "paired combo" concept. essentially a single lower with 2 uppers, one for close/ medium, and then a 16" spr upper with heaver barrel and larger glass. one can carry the shorter lighter upper and attach the spr upper to a pack, its alot easier to pack an upper than an entire rifle. then once you get to a specific overlook type of location, you can swap the uppers .
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Definitely skip 308 and go to 6.5cm. With a 16” 6.5cm and hand loads I’m able to reach out to 1160 yards so far.
Great vid! Wana get a 13.9 for my first rifle.
Get that thing pin and welded and you will be set!
Yes, it's the best rifle for if you have to leave your location/refugee-like life.
Long enough to be effective at reasonable distance, short enough to be maneuverable. Jack of all trades, master of none.
All the specialized rifles like SPR, DMR, Precision are good for when you have intelligence on your engagements or your environment, or can plan ahead of time, but the GPR will be the best fallback if you have to relocate or have no idea what you're up against.
Do you like your Olight?
I don’t mind it. Olight gets a lot of hate but mine has been running just fine. I will eventually buy a streamlight Protac
@@ConcreteCowboyx olight odin gl on my benelli m2 never had a single problem too
By definition "general purpose" means you can do most things good enough.
A "Gordon" rifle is still really good set up 30+ years later.
For a modern build a 16, mid length with A5 buffer and a red dot/3x prism is about as much of a "Goldie locks" gun as you can get.
Most people aren't pushing past 300m so an lpvo is not that big of an advantage over a fixed power.
True! But I do shoot at distance quit a bit so I know having those extended powers is beneficial for me. Will never do it in a self preservation scenario? Probably not. But I’m confident with my abilities out to 500 yards, so I need my gear to complement that skill set
@@ConcreteCowboyx any set up needs to be based on your environment. If you have somewhere that you can routinely make 400+ shots then an lpvo makes sense. If you live in thick woods where 100m is pushing it a red dot or 3x does the job.
I posted a vid about this too and think if you can only have 1 fighting rifle it should be a GPR
Yeah, it makes the most sense for the majority of people
While I agree with the premise of the video I do not agree with the statement that ballistics from a 14.5” and 16” barrel are similar. A 14.5” is a 300 yard gun while a 16” barrel is a 500 yard gun, 600 yards if you’re using 77 grain from Black Hills. It’s my opinion a GP rifle in 5.56 should have 16” barrel. Short enough to be maneuverable but long enough to reach out when needed.
All comes down to your testing. With my 77 grain I get minimal velocity differences and I get very similar outputs on my ballistic calculator out to 500. Ammo plays a big role so you’ll need to experiment with your specific setup. But for me and a few of the guys I shoot with, we don’t lose an astronomical amount of performance going down from a 16” to a 14.5” pin and welded.
Gpr is the most relevant rifle there will ever be. Most people aren't like us where we have different guns for every use we can think of. Most people have 1 rifle that can do everything decently well.
It’s honestly the smartest build to have when just starting out
14.5-16 is hard to beat
That’s what I’m saying!
More things change the more they stay the same. GPR, do-it-all, Recce rifle all the same. Name changes but it’s all about doing as much as possible with what you got.
That’s true. The name seems to change more than the initial concept
Yeah one's rifle needs to do everything decently
And it’s definitely doable if enough thought goes into it
Absolutely
Most can't afford multiple setups
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This is very true!
I recognize those stages! Lol
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Nice rifle!
Great video and I pepped the Oracle Red Bull racing shirt. Just subscribed
Big F1 fan over here. But I also root for Mercedes
Who cares ?
Do you like it ? Can you run it? Does it do what you need? Remeber if something isn’t cool, just gotta give it time eventually it’ll be cool again!
“Time is a flat circle”
I think we all care to a certain degree
General purpose rifle? I've been using a 7.62x39 Saiga for years. I am faster than most, can do CQB with it, and long range. Have hunted with it. A rifle is a rifle and it is designed to do what you need it to do. Sure there are better cartridge, this is true. However, I am faster and have more precise than most because I know my rifle inside in out. I never understood having a more than one rifle for multiple situations, you just need one to do it's job. Yes, I have a shotgun an a pistol, but that rifle is what I will always grab. By narrowing all this down you have more money and room for ammo, mags, and parts for your rifle.
Solid info here. I like your emphasis on training. No matter the platform, the user is the main difference
@ Exactly. Training is the most important thing. It alone will give you better understanding than using multiple rifles. I’ve learned from veterans who went to war and that alone showed me a significant difference compared to people who speak so much about what you need on a rifle. Mine has a hand stop, optic and flashlight. Perfectly fine.
The only thing that is relevant is the skill of the shooter. The gun doesn't matter too much. Like yeah, you want a quality rifle. But all this craze over the latest trends is stupid. GPR, SPR, CQBR--it doesn't matter. Run your gun. How fast can you put the bullets where bullets need to go? Can you do it on demand? That's what is relevant. IMO Guntube should shift from constant gear reviews to skill development but that doesn't bring in the views apparently. People just wanna talk about guns not shooting.
Check out the rest of my videos
Weird title. What could have changed to make it irrelevant? Is there a new conflict that determined it wasn’t?
Some people think SPR’s are the only way now. So I decided to put my take out there
In the videos defense, that was my initial thoughts before I watched it.
I live in rural area, spend a lot of time here. Occasionally I have to go into the city for work. I need to be able to shoot out to 400+ yards as well as 10 yards. I’m not a huge fan of LPVO’s, but they’re the best tool for my needs.
@@ConcreteCowboyx I can tell you, the bubba’s around me who can only afford one rifle and not spend copious amounts of money on a rifle for every individual task, are choosing training over gadgets.
There's a strong argument that longer barrels and the added velocity they offer will be necessary in the next American conflict.
The argument goes (over simplified of course) that for now we have military and law enforcement protection. So any length AR works.
As soon as that changes you find yourself where the people hunting you will likely be wearing armor and badges.
With that in mind, armor starts to fail at somewhere between 2900 and 3250 feet per second; depending on the quality of the armor. A 14.5 will be pushing somewhere around 2750. Add approximately 50fps per inch thereafter.
Add to this the evolving threat of drones. No, not the bird like drones that are perfect for shotguns...think robot dogs or robot people. It's already here. For these threats you will need to puncture the light armor protecting the battery or processor.
Choose accordingly,
Phil
GPR is the new SPR
There’s an argument to be had here
I have a 16” with a red dot and 3x magnifier. Still poor so thought this was the best set up for the money. However, in terms of GPR, seems like most are running LPVOs. Would appreciate a vid on whether it’s worth it to upgrade optic set ups or prioritize something else.
I did a LPVO vs RED DOT video that might give some more insight on the matter. I’m personally a fan of LPVO’s. But it’s all personal preference
Common sense brother!
I like that you block your face out. I think all these prepper channels look stupid exposing themselves on a platform owned by Google.
I’ve got my reasons
The GPR is the only relevant rifle...
Some people might think otherwise
Long live the ACOG
It’s a pretty versatile optic
you sound like Colon Noir
I am Colion Noir