Story 1: with the level of insecurity Laura is demonstrating, i'd bet money SHE'S the cheat. Especially since her bff revealed she doesn't have any real cheating trauma in her past.
I've actually seen a reddit story from the cheaters perspective. It was written in a reflective way, lamenting what a horrible person they had become. They claimed that they only cheated once, but that was really the least awful thing they did to their partner. It made them start thinking that, "if it was so easy for me to cheat, they could be cheating too," and started becoming toxic and controlling, demanding access to their phone messages, requiring proof that they were at work, critiquing how they presented themselves and interacted with others, eventually leading to their break up.
I know what you mean, people who are cheaters are always super insecure about cheating. It's like they see it everywhere they look and just assume everyone is as crappy as they are. BUT- I don't think that's the case here. At least not YET. There is a specific subset of crazy, controling girls like Laura. I've known MANY. See a good chunk of my childhood friend group are straight guys. I'm one of the few girls, so I've seen alot of girlfriends come and go. And I've known many Laura's... These girls would be super controling and assume that EVERYONE is out to bang 'their man'. I especially hated them because they often singled me out to be particularly awful to since I was one of the only women in the group. When I was single it was especially bad, but even when I had a partner they were still horrible to me. Which was super annoying, I've known most of these guys since 2nd or 3rd grade, highschool at the latest. If I had wanted 'her man' then it would've happened years ago!! But these Laura's were NUTS. I remember one wouldn't let my buddy watch Game of Thrones because of the nudity. We were in our late 20's/early 30's and we all had smartphones- did she really think she could cut him off from nudity by forbidding HBO? They would never let their partner hangout, except the rare special event. Not even on Xbox live or discord. If dude did manage to sneak out the Laura would blow up his phone until he left. If she came with him then she'd just stand there with her arms crossed making cat-butt-face the whole time. If I or any other girls came she'd make snatky comments about our clothes or appearance. It was like she was trying to make him so miserable that he'd give up and go home. And it always ended in 1 of 2 ways. One was as you guessed CHEATING. But then at least he'd get out. The other was much worse.... PREGNANCY. Laura's were always baby-trappers if they weren't cheaters. It's like she knew that even if he'd eventually leave HER he wouldn't leave his child. The anti-GOT-b00bies one I mentioned above had FOUR kids- all with different dad's. But my buddy was smart and got the snip, so she eventually cheated lol. We used to call her Rat Face because her CBF or Resting B Face was EPIC. I NEVER saw her smile, not once!!! I always hated the Laura's because I desperately want more girl friends. Out of my 4 best girlfriends one passed away, one moved away and the other 2 have too much going on with their mental health/life to hangout regularly. So I'd get all excited- 'YES!!! Finally a new girl to talk to!!!' Only to see crossed arms and CBF. Sigh.... But ya OP lucked out. Either Laura would've cheated or baby trapped him. Judging by her desperate pregnancy claim I think the later- which is a worse fate by far. OP is so much better off without this Laura in his life.
OP should have added some salt on the wound when the bitch tried that "I'm pregnant" card, by smirking at her and saying snidely "Nice try." Ooh, or how about this one? "Oh, put that back in the deck!"
Ya I wouldn't be surprise if the trip was a planned manipulation tool because she has to know what vegas is and is gonna use it towards controlling op here.
Sarah needs to bitch-slap her with a cast-iron skillet and throw her on a therapist's couch before that can happen. Part of me wonders if Laura even WANTS a relationship, because she feels like she intentionally torpedoed it by acting so irrational, especially with no cheating trauma in her past. Why Sarah tried to hard to get them on a second outing, that's what I want to know. Did she have a long talk with Laura about her stupid insecurities first, or just wing it and hope for the best? Maybe Sarah wanted them broken up and knew the 2nd outing would clinch it when OP hesitated b/c she knew it was better to rip the band-aid off instead of let Laura take her time tying this guy into knots. It's a helluva mystery.
People like Laura kill their own relationships. And the messed up thing is, in her next relationship, she's probably going to act like OP was the crazy one.
Story 1 (After update): Yyyyeahhhh, OP dodged a bullet there. Laura’s bestie was probably dreading OP leaving … because she’ll probably have to endure Laura’s b*tching and her general sunny demeanor.
Sarah doesn't have to put up with her either, she could drop her too & be rid of the psycho bish. I'm sure their whole friend group would love to be free from the drama. Laura needs truck load of help from a team of professionals.
@@bhart3321 Sarah doesn't really seem to be tired of the psycho. If Sarah was tired of Laura, then Sarah wouldn't have even told OP to give Laura a second chance in the first place. Sarah was just playing games like Laura was.
@@LSHEVV Actually I'd like to clarify that she wasn't getting upset because he was talking to the children she was getting upset because he was talking to the mother the single mother who had no husband with her so she was getting possessive and jealous because in her brain she saw him flirting with a single mother
Story 1: And this is why I advocate on taking a long vacation with your SO before getting engaged: being forced out of one's comfort zone shows you more sides of someone's personality. Although I'm stumped as to why Sarah thought that another trip was a good idea "I look at her and just roll my eyes and leave. I haven't had sex with her since her last period (purposely)" Smart move!
I absolutely agree. One way I tested my now wife was a 3 day drive around our state. Absolutely no issues with her. We have been married over 30 years now.
Sarah was saving OP without looking like the bad guy, IMO. I think she knew exactly how Laura was going to behave, so gave OP the proof he needed to break up with Laura without actually saying anything bad about her friend. She can honestly tell her friend group that she didn't bad-mouth Laura, but gave OP the evidence he needed to know that Laura was a bad match.
I was thinking the exact same thing. It's all about her being obsessed with staying in that little bubble where she has control. The moment they stepped outside of it, her behavior completely changed.
"You don't know them, you should have just let them fall" local woman expects boyfriend to lose every sense of common decency and humanity once in a relationship with her. More at 6. Now to Steve with the weather.
That told me they should be toast. I mean, Laura is a terrible person, and probably has no empathy. She's the center of her own world, her own soap-opera. Any inconvenience needs to be brushed aside for her wants. Despicable.
And she got mad when he saved those two struggling kids at the beach! "Isn't that what lifeguards are for?" So, she wanted him to just let them drown! 😱🤬
Story 2: Girl, you in danger! Run! Your roommate is a complete wack job! The boyfriend was never the problem. Pack up the rest of your belongings and find somewhere safe to stay. I have a feeling that the breakup isn’t going to end the roommate’s shenanigans. 😬 Update: Oh, thank goodness, OP left! And only costed you a little over $300 to get rid of this nutcase. 😁
Wow, OP’s ex-girlfriend was the personification of a red flag. I’ve heard of faking a pregnancy after breaking up, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen it happen so quickly. However, something tells me she wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed since she and OP hadn’t been intimate since her last period. Saying OP dodged a bullet in this case would be an understatement.
With OP being a college athlete I imagine scary stories about baby trapping are abound. Hot, Buff guys with huge warning potential? It attracts the kind of girls you need to be careful around.
Anyone else expecting an update with OPs house being vandalized, tire slashed, and other psycho stalker related mayhem? Pretty sure every time he goes out for lunch, or for groceries, Laura will show up and scream "He's mine" to the waitress or cashier. Yes, I see a restraining order in OPs future.
Story 1: Laura even was jealous of children!! She preferred that her boyfriend cried than play with a 3 year old or that he allowed 12 year olds to drown than to help them get to the beach. That’s beyond nuts.
That 2nd story - OP definitely needs to take the roomie to small claims court. That might be the only wake-up call this person gets. Also, who opens a joint bank account with a room mate? All I can think of is that it would make life easier for the landlord to get paid somehow?
Just the staring at his eyes bit was enough of a clue to how much of a psycho she was. OP didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged hald of the world's nuclear arsenal.
story 2: i think it should be a social rule that people work on themselves before they rush into relationships cos yeesh, glad OP and her roommates ex got away from the roommate.
@@tallyp.7643for me it was the censoring what OP wore, its one thing if the roomate wears skimpy clothing like that post where the OP was asking the roomate to put clothes on she would wear only underwear or negligees when the OP's boyfriend visited and in the update of that story the roomate tried to steal the op's boyfriend later on, but in this case the OP actually was a normal roomate and the nutcase shot herself on the foot by nuking the relationship all by herself since we dont know what kind of crazy antics she pulled on the boyfriend when they were alone to get him to cut her loose🚩🚩 Moral of the story, "DON'T LIVE WITH CRAZY, AND IF YOU DO MOVE OUT ASAP!"
Jealousy can be a self-fulfilling prophecy; if you you show a partner that you don’t trust them, then they have no reason to stick around in a hostile relationship
Story 1: I've been through that. OP handled it better than I did. I kept giving her chances, she kept failing. 18 months of hell, I finally broke things off and felt nothing but relief. Jealous partners are toxic. Leave them behind as soon as you can, trust me.
Story 1- I had a friend in college like this, and if it wasn't for her bf's 'hero' mindset, which created a very codependent relationship I don't think they would have been together for so long. Found out they recently broke up. Her bf was a good friend to me as well, and it was hard to see so many of his friends drift away from him because of her, and his genuine confusion as to why (rose colored glasses) He was and is an active, social person, and she preferred everyone flock to her in her room and just hangout. No effort whatsoever on her part, would throw a huge fit if he tried to leave. Suffice to say, I left her friend group, amd was better for it and it seems he's in a better relationship now (though, she is very adamant to add in FB that they are still VERY close friends *sigh*)
My family and I went to Vegas last year. It is awesome! If somebody tries to keep me in the hotel room for an entire day, I tell them stay if you want but I'm going out to have some fun.
2nd story: OMG, the cokehead turned out to be crazy?!? Who could have guessed?!? Yes, I am abusing sarcasm now. But seriously, Good for you getting out, OP, and good luck in the future!
For story #2, the first time the roommate did coke in the apartment, I would have kicked her out. That by itself explains why the roommate is such a jerk.
Story 1: Laura likely needs professional help and her “friends” are doing her any favors by never holding her accountable for her behavior and coddling her. The best friend upheld her lies until it wasn’t pertinent anymore (lying about being in a previously abusive relationship).
For the first story. When a person who you think is completely normal changes out of the blue. Because of XYRZ that’s when you have a problem because that means they’re hiding at least a portion of themselves when they’re near you when a person is shitty throughout the whole relationship and just because of the fact that you have rose colored glasses on you don’t notice it that’s a different issue, but if someone drastically changes that you are questioning things, that’s a problem.
Even though Laura did end up just being stupidly possessive, I'm glad OP did give her that second chance of a trip to make sure he wasn't just running away at the first sign of an issue.
Story 1: It's not OP's job to solve her jealousy problem. She's not ready to be in a relationship. She's going to get worse, not better. I'm sure she showed red flags before, but OP just skipped them. His sister is wrong. He's not in a relationship to "change" or "fix" a person. His gf needs to change by and for herself. He might support her, but if she doesn't acknowledge her flaw, what can he do? I had a friend who spewed the same rubbish to me and it turns out that my bf was turning abusive.
Exactly. This whole bs of people wanting to date a "project" in hopes they'll be so grateful & loyal. Or people looking for others to fix them. That's not how life works & we need to stop normalizing it. We need to normalize people fixing themselves through working on themselves either with therapy or intensive self study but ultimately it's every individual's responsibility to handle their own baggage & stop forcing others to carry it.
@@bhart3321 you would be going against most people in this society where everyone has an issue and they expect you to be the one dealing with it and change as much as they want so you don't trigger their feelings. Plus sadly there are a lot of people that are obsessed with fixing/saving others thanks to their loneliness but mostly their ego. We have the men with hero complexes that live to save every damaged damsel in distress no matter how much those women step on them or how much money they drain from their accounts. Then the women with rom-com complex meet this 6ft sexy f-boy that clearly doesn't give a crap about them yet they think that with enough love, marriage, and them turning into their groupies will make them realize how they are the table, how amazing and different they are and love/show the same loyalty toward them. And most importantly, the people who advocate any way they can, to whoever they can, on how people need to stay in the relationship and fix it no matter what, are those damaged damsels. Because they know if people stop trying to fix others and decided to have healthy relationships instead of mini-trauma bonds, then they'll be screwd. For no man would accept their past, since now most women are sex workers, have kids with multiple men, their obsession with attention/validation, cheating, bs, manipulation, abuse, drama, etc. Tho F-boys wouldn't care if obsessive needy women would stop being needy 😂
Story 1 This is why I agree with people who say "You don't know someone until you move in together, but you find out who they REALLY are when you go on holiday together."
I definitely think that being away from their home environment for a couple days made Laura lose control of things she usually kept inside. The fact that she felt threatened by him literally not being able to sit next to her on the plane was just unfathomable.
S1- This chick got mad on the plane, at the mall, on the strip, and at dinner. I bet she faked being sick to keep him in the room. It’s not OPs responsibility to make herself secure. He has eyes, that means automatically means guilty. This was fate how the plane seats didn’t have them together. OP dodge a torpedo
Story 1. If it were me, I would leave her. I don't want to walk on eggshells every time I am out with someone like that. She really needs therapy to work out her jealousy issues in therapy and she may never get over this. Story 2. It's too bad, but it's time for you to find a new roommate. This was confirmed in the update, I hope she kept the BF's number.
S1: If girlfriend acts this way dump her ASAP. If you marry her she will even be much worse. She needs serious therapy, and YOU can’t fix her. Also, you are way too young for a fiancée, or marriage. So don’t upgrade her to a higher level relationship unless she does serious work on herself.
1st story. NTA. Had a boyfriend like that. Couldn't look at anyone without him saying "who was that, do you know that guy, why are you looking at him", etc. Relationship ended with him trying to convince me to be a puppet & take direction from him. The last time we spoke was him telling me if I left him he would kill himself. That worked for longer than it should have. When I finally had enough I asked him how he wanted to do it. I volunteered to get a knife, gun, rope to hang himself, etc. "Do you want to step in front of a car, how about i dump your a@% in the ocean. The look on his face was priceless. When someone tells you they'll kill themselves if you don't do what they say tell them go ahead. 99.9% of the time it's just a control freak trying to make you do what you're told.
Exactly. People on Reddit love to preach that you can talk it out with communication, but, nobody should be expected to put up with crap that they don't want to. The fact that Laura changed her behavior so out of nowhere once they left their home environment is indicative of a bigger problem.
Story 1: soooo bump sarah for absolutely lying to ole dude 🙃 a good friend would be actively letting their buddy know when they're in the wrong. Finding out there wasnt even a reason for the behavior other than pure insecurity only makes the both of them look even more terrible. Glad that man got out of there. When people tell/show you who they are, believe em🤙🏿
Jealous, and insecure people in relationships truly nauseate me. I've rarely heard an instance in which these kinds of people ever try to improve, so I have no sympathy for them.
The fact that Laura was jealous of two children almost being carried out to sea is disgusting, thank god OP saved them and got the hell out of that relationship.
Vegas girl. When she was feeling unwell and kept OP in doors was a major red flag. It was her way of copying the stay-cations she had with him over the previous summers isolating him from the rest of the world.
My last girlfriend, I told her pointedly, “I don’t want to be your source of entertainment. You need to be your own person as well as we need to be a couple.” We’ve subsequently been happily married since 2017, and married since 2010.
With the roommate I would have gone malicious compliance and been increasingly ridiculous levels of covered when the bf came over. Worn a parka or pull a Joey and wear every single item of clothing. Make her look ridiculous.
Exactly what I was thinking lol I'd wear all my winter gear when he came over, and I'm Norwegian so it's a LOT of winter gear, and when he asked, I'd be honest and tell him "your girlfriend said I cant wear clothes anymore because it's too revealing so I have to cover up" unfortunately crazy bitches like this will STILL find an issue with what you're wearing. "Your snow boots were untied and you weren't wearing socks and he could see your ankles! How dare you!" 😂
i mean in this situation, i have a friend who married a woman who would make comments like this girl when normal things happened like with waitresses, and it got so bad they couldn't even go to the beach, bc she would constantly be looking to see if he was checking out women.... It did not get better with time...
Funny how is some stories even a slight hint of mistrust, linked to a very specific circumstance, is met with "you should be dumped, you don't deserve to be in a relationship", and in some others you have straight up insane behaviour motivated by mistrust and people are like "oh if this is a one time thing you should leave it there"
Sounds to me like the girlfriend in Story #1 had some kind of social anxiety and was a control freak - Good for OP for getting away from her. And her friend Sarah wasn't much better - Best to hit the eject button on them all and leave their toxic mess behind.
You can't change someone who doesn't want to change. Also going into a relationship with the intention of changing your partner pretty much will never work. You get into a relationship with a person you grow to love or already love, not to mold them into the person you want. Her being that insecure is not his problem to solve nor is it something that he should be required to. Nor could he. She needs to solve that on her own. Especially because it's already on a creepy level. She's staring deep into his eyes to check if he is looking at someone else to the point she is actively avoiding the sights around her, demanding to stay in the room all day and not even let him get food because he HAS to be there only for her and he isn't even allowed to look at other people or have them look at him. I've seen reddit say people should duck a relationship for less but they see this nuttiness and have people seriously suggesting that the gf should be given another chance. It's just really annoying to see all these chances given to a genuinely toxic relationship on reddit but knowing in the same circumstances others will have people telling them to run. The friend telling OP to give her another chance is dumb too, especially knowing that there was no cheating in the last relationship. Bloody hell it went exactly the same if not worse because her insecurities are extending to literal children at that point. Then she tried to pull the pregnancy card to force him to stay while demanding he stay to fix her. No, just no. A person shouldn't have to walk on eggshells around an infinitely insecure partner who refuses to help themselves get better. That is just toxic. Second story basically confirms this video as the insecurity episode. People just being super insecure over nothing to the point of creepiness of vandalizing other's property because how dare they try to fix their own issues.
S1 Judgement: NTA Reason: Laura sounds exhausting. If I were in OP's shoes: I would go on a trip with Sarah and her boyfriend one more time to see if this is really just a one-off thing, or if Laura has some legit issues that are a deal breaker. Realistically, he's better off cutting his losses and going his own way. The fact that she accused him of being happy not sitting next to her, the (frankly creepy) staring, the blame shifting and lack of holding herself accountable for her own actions and explaining it as either hormones or "I got cheated on twice", is unacceptable, and leaves OP likely feeling disoriented. Update: "Are you ready to put your clothes back on? No? Then there is your answer." The fact that OP helped the kids, and Laura had an issue with it tells me everything I need to know. OP dodged a bullet.
Story 1: OP dodged a nuke! What did she want OP to do, gouge the girl's' eyes out!?! Story 2: Do we even know if the boyfriend truly had feelings for OP? Or uf it was the girlfriend's insecure projections!?!
If i was OP, and i knew i was gonna break up with her after the beach trip, i wouldve trolled her by being nice to the girls and then told Laura that she can either deal with it or she can go cry in a corner. I wouldnt take her BS.
first story: o.p did the right thing. i was a friend to someone like op's now ex, who was probably 10 percent more worse and let me tell you. it was more toxic being a friend of someone who was a control freak when it came to a relationship and twice as controlling when they would " if you're my friend you will cut so so off too" after she broke up with the guy after he asked a female cashier girl a question. a simple question that had no form of flirtation just a question about an item. it was 3 months of toxic retaliation after but she stopped when a warning of legal action would be taken to her and any of her other friends who took part in the retaliation.
Story 1: That level of Jealousy got me in a tight knot of how she Even get jealous over kids and thought "I told that betch is crazy" Sarah dear, I know You love your friends but My god why does you Even support her crappy jealousy
story 2 I would have moved out once I saw the roommate snorting cocaine in the kitchen. an addict in addition to being paranoid and delusional op did right in running
I'm sorry, but I'd have dumped Laura too. I dated people like that and even have a friend who acted more like a jealous gf than a friend. I dumped them all. I'm old enough to know I won't put up with this kind of controlling, insecure jealousy from anyone.
Right? When it comes to this level of controlling behavior and paranoia, women are expected to cut and run, but men are supposed to have more patience and understanding. People like Laura need therapy, not to be in relationships.
That kind of insecurity is a real red flag. Had an ex who the last straw was when she called on the house phone and then later asked who was the voice in the background. I told her "One, it was the landlord's daughter, two she's 15 years old and three, don't even go there."
When he talks about how she reacted to him calling her out, the going blank and just sitting there... that's the actual reason to leave. She shuts down when faced with a consequence for her own actions and dodges any commitment to change. Run, don't walk OP.
Story 1: Getting jealous over a 5 year old is a deal breaker. OP never says Laura is the love of his life. She is just a gf. That's all. Time to leave!!
"our server was a showgirl or call-girl (I don't know the proper term)" Um yeah, that's not one you want to get mixed up. Do *not* call a showgirl a call-girl unless you really want to get slapped and kicked out of whatever establishment you're in... Pretty sure they don't like being called prostitutes.
@6:03 "I usually trust my sister's judgment, but I think that she's off the mark this time." Oh, boy, is she off the mark! Typical. His sister thinks his job as a BF/SO/Husband is ti "fix" the woman, but it is NOT. Only Jesus can "fix" someone, and then only if they WANT to be "fixed." It is most certainly NOT his job to "fix" his SO.
Exactly. For some reason, this mindset has become more popular when it comes to relationships. It is not up to person A to fix the emotional or psychological problems of person B just because they are in a relationship. That is the kind of thing that everyone needs to take hold of for themselves, especially if they want other people to be able to stand being around them.
Story 1: You learn a lot about a partner when on holiday with them; little habits they have, things they can't live without and what they're really like when away from work and even sometimes their own culture. I'm sure that the girlfriend didn't want the OP sitting next to the volleyball girls due to her jealousy and thought he'd be less chatty with a mum and a five-year-old. The room situation, so the girlfriend agreed to something and then was mad about it. Prior signs of jealousy around other girls? Who goes to Vegas, a sin city when they can't cope with some healthy rivalry. I'd leave this relationship, what happens on the next holiday, their Honeymoon, and the OP's hot future female work colleague he's working with on a project? "I'll try to change but I don't know if I can." is a classic sign of not really wanting to change, she should be looking into therapy, online research for self-help, or something. It's as if the holiday kickstarted the end of the relationship, in the girlfriend's mind. Even her bestie is about done with her. The girlfriend obviously is no fun. Update: So she can strip down to a bikini, but the OP can't walk around shirtless at a beach. So what if that one volleyball girl had a crush on the OP, it doesn't mean he'll act on it. The girlfriend has issues with being a good samaritan Oh, that break-up, all classic manipulation tactics. An impossible pregnancy. So that's what really happened with Laura's ex, just more paranoia. I have to wonder why Sarah stays by Laura. Story 2: That's an insecure roommate. If the boyfriend doesn't know that the OP isn't allowed to talk to him or dress a certain way around him, tell him. By not telling him the OP is delaying the inevitable, the break-up. Why is he coming over when she's insecure, she should be going to wherever he lives to be with him and keep the OP separate if she feels so threatened. I seems like the roommate is testing the OP and maybe her boyfriend. Does the boyfriend have a thing for the OP or is he just being polite? The roommate's doing coke, call the police, the boyfriend ended it, good. It can only go up from here.
S1:If you want to fix something you buy a car,bike,house but do not stay with a person to try to fix them. They have to fix them themselfs,you can only offer support So many bad shit crazy gals these days....jeezzus. Both were an utter nightmare.
S1: G/f's behaviour on the vacation was bad enough, but trying to rug-sweep and deny accountability? Nope. Glad he broke things off, and blocked the bestie. He should also take his sister's advice with a grain of salt going forward.
Story #1 Get assertive OP and revoke the interloping BF'S "all acces pass" to OP'S apartment. If OP'S roommate's BF doesn't need to go home, but her cannot stay in OP'S apartment any longer. Too much drama is resulting from a situation the roomate created, that is allowing the BF'S roomate level access to OP in her own apartment. It is not on OP to behave like a stranger in her own apartment.
1- I don’t get why she would go to SIN CITY If she was that insecure! On the airplane OP did the right thing by making lemonade out of the lemons he get!
When he mentioned in an update that Laura would have been just fine and not going on vacation and just hanging around their dorm, that made everything make sense. She doesn't want herself or him going outside of their little bubble. And hitting Vegas of all places? It's no wonder why insecure person like her felt threatened by everything. Also, I guarantee that when she was suddenly feeling sick, she was just faking it to keep OP in her sight.
Story 1, once you have the discussion about insecurity and they acknowledge that you don't like it. That's the last chance. If they don't knock that shit off don't invest any more time
I would have broke up with her in front of everyone, so she couldn't tell lies about it. Her friends should have also called her out on it, in public. She is an embarrassment with her mental abuse of (seems to me) whomever she dates.
When my wife and I go to places together, we try to have a great time. She takes photos, I take photos of her with her phone. I am usually in my own world, I rarely take a photo. We understand each other. We love each other. Maybe she’s afraid you will notice a different girl and leave her? I think she fears losing you
Story 1: with the level of insecurity Laura is demonstrating, i'd bet money SHE'S the cheat. Especially since her bff revealed she doesn't have any real cheating trauma in her past.
I've actually seen a reddit story from the cheaters perspective. It was written in a reflective way, lamenting what a horrible person they had become. They claimed that they only cheated once, but that was really the least awful thing they did to their partner. It made them start thinking that, "if it was so easy for me to cheat, they could be cheating too," and started becoming toxic and controlling, demanding access to their phone messages, requiring proof that they were at work, critiquing how they presented themselves and interacted with others, eventually leading to their break up.
I know what you mean, people who are cheaters are always super insecure about cheating. It's like they see it everywhere they look and just assume everyone is as crappy as they are.
BUT- I don't think that's the case here. At least not YET. There is a specific subset of crazy, controling girls like Laura. I've known MANY. See a good chunk of my childhood friend group are straight guys. I'm one of the few girls, so I've seen alot of girlfriends come and go. And I've known many Laura's...
These girls would be super controling and assume that EVERYONE is out to bang 'their man'. I especially hated them because they often singled me out to be particularly awful to since I was one of the only women in the group. When I was single it was especially bad, but even when I had a partner they were still horrible to me. Which was super annoying, I've known most of these guys since 2nd or 3rd grade, highschool at the latest. If I had wanted 'her man' then it would've happened years ago!!
But these Laura's were NUTS. I remember one wouldn't let my buddy watch Game of Thrones because of the nudity. We were in our late 20's/early 30's and we all had smartphones- did she really think she could cut him off from nudity by forbidding HBO?
They would never let their partner hangout, except the rare special event. Not even on Xbox live or discord. If dude did manage to sneak out the Laura would blow up his phone until he left. If she came with him then she'd just stand there with her arms crossed making cat-butt-face the whole time. If I or any other girls came she'd make snatky comments about our clothes or appearance. It was like she was trying to make him so miserable that he'd give up and go home.
And it always ended in 1 of 2 ways. One was as you guessed CHEATING. But then at least he'd get out. The other was much worse.... PREGNANCY. Laura's were always baby-trappers if they weren't cheaters. It's like she knew that even if he'd eventually leave HER he wouldn't leave his child.
The anti-GOT-b00bies one I mentioned above had FOUR kids- all with different dad's. But my buddy was smart and got the snip, so she eventually cheated lol. We used to call her Rat Face because her CBF or Resting B Face was EPIC. I NEVER saw her smile, not once!!!
I always hated the Laura's because I desperately want more girl friends. Out of my 4 best girlfriends one passed away, one moved away and the other 2 have too much going on with their mental health/life to hangout regularly. So I'd get all excited- 'YES!!! Finally a new girl to talk to!!!' Only to see crossed arms and CBF. Sigh....
But ya OP lucked out. Either Laura would've cheated or baby trapped him. Judging by her desperate pregnancy claim I think the later- which is a worse fate by far. OP is so much better off without this Laura in his life.
OP should have added some salt on the wound when the bitch tried that "I'm pregnant" card, by smirking at her and saying snidely "Nice try." Ooh, or how about this one? "Oh, put that back in the deck!"
@@ivorynk752I always wonderes why cheater frequently get jealous and controling, I never would have guessed it.
Really interesting thank you
Ya I wouldn't be surprise if the trip was a planned manipulation tool because she has to know what vegas is and is gonna use it towards controlling op here.
Story 1: Guarantee in her next relationship she’ll be complaining about her horrible ex who would constantly flirt with girls right in front of her
Sarah needs to bitch-slap her with a cast-iron skillet and throw her on a therapist's couch before that can happen. Part of me wonders if Laura even WANTS a relationship, because she feels like she intentionally torpedoed it by acting so irrational, especially with no cheating trauma in her past. Why Sarah tried to hard to get them on a second outing, that's what I want to know. Did she have a long talk with Laura about her stupid insecurities first, or just wing it and hope for the best? Maybe Sarah wanted them broken up and knew the 2nd outing would clinch it when OP hesitated b/c she knew it was better to rip the band-aid off instead of let Laura take her time tying this guy into knots. It's a helluva mystery.
Yeah, people like her lie and are toxic. They don't realize how they ruin the relationship with their own actions.
People like Laura kill their own relationships. And the messed up thing is, in her next relationship, she's probably going to act like OP was the crazy one.
Story 1 (After update): Yyyyeahhhh, OP dodged a bullet there. Laura’s bestie was probably dreading OP leaving … because she’ll probably have to endure Laura’s b*tching and her general sunny demeanor.
That is when you can tell that laura is a pathetic door mat.
Sarah doesn't have to put up with her either, she could drop her too & be rid of the psycho bish. I'm sure their whole friend group would love to be free from the drama. Laura needs truck load of help from a team of professionals.
@@bhart3321 Sarah doesn't really seem to be tired of the psycho. If Sarah was tired of Laura, then Sarah wouldn't have even told OP to give Laura a second chance in the first place. Sarah was just playing games like Laura was.
Story 1: Laura is beyond territorial. ANY woman is going to set her off. Story 2: Is this Laura six months later? 🤦♀️🤦🤦♂️
It's not just women, she was getting upset when he interacted with kids too. Anyone getting attention from him was too much for her.
For real!!
@@LSHEVV Actually I'd like to clarify that she wasn't getting upset because he was talking to the children she was getting upset because he was talking to the mother the single mother who had no husband with her so she was getting possessive and jealous because in her brain she saw him flirting with a single mother
@@corvuselizabeth9747she literally got jealous that he helped saved some kids at the beach.
@@elisejackson2854 Ah my bad, I thought you were talking about the moment on the plane.
Hot Take: If you had to pick between leaving too soon or too late, ALWAYS pick too soon.
Story 1: And this is why I advocate on taking a long vacation with your SO before getting engaged: being forced out of one's comfort zone shows you more sides of someone's personality.
Although I'm stumped as to why Sarah thought that another trip was a good idea
"I look at her and just roll my eyes and leave. I haven't had sex with her since her last period (purposely)"
Smart move!
I absolutely agree. One way I tested my now wife was a 3 day drive around our state. Absolutely no issues with her. We have been married over 30 years now.
Sarah was saving OP without looking like the bad guy, IMO. I think she knew exactly how Laura was going to behave, so gave OP the proof he needed to break up with Laura without actually saying anything bad about her friend. She can honestly tell her friend group that she didn't bad-mouth Laura, but gave OP the evidence he needed to know that Laura was a bad match.
I was thinking the exact same thing. It's all about her being obsessed with staying in that little bubble where she has control. The moment they stepped outside of it, her behavior completely changed.
@@saldiven2009I figured that was the reason Sarah picked the beach. True test of Laura's character. Which she obviously failed lol
"You don't know them, you should have just let them fall" local woman expects boyfriend to lose every sense of common decency and humanity once in a relationship with her. More at 6. Now to Steve with the weather.
That told me they should be toast. I mean, Laura is a terrible person, and probably has no empathy. She's the center of her own world, her own soap-opera. Any inconvenience needs to be brushed aside for her wants. Despicable.
And she got mad when he saved those two struggling kids at the beach! "Isn't that what lifeguards are for?" So, she wanted him to just let them drown! 😱🤬
Underrated comment 😂
Laura needs therapy, yes OP really did dodge a bullet, holy shit.
Story 2: Girl, you in danger! Run! Your roommate is a complete wack job! The boyfriend was never the problem. Pack up the rest of your belongings and find somewhere safe to stay. I have a feeling that the breakup isn’t going to end the roommate’s shenanigans. 😬
Update: Oh, thank goodness, OP left! And only costed you a little over $300 to get rid of this nutcase. 😁
Wow, OP’s ex-girlfriend was the personification of a red flag. I’ve heard of faking a pregnancy after breaking up, but I can’t say I’ve ever seen it happen so quickly. However, something tells me she wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed since she and OP hadn’t been intimate since her last period. Saying OP dodged a bullet in this case would be an understatement.
Reminded me of Mindy Kaling’s character (Kelly) in The Office 😂
@@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypse her character always drove me up a wall. God, I couldn’t stand her.
@@QueenOfTheZombieApocalypseI imagine Mindy has a ton of experience playing a dumpster fire. Easy to play yourself and what not
With OP being a college athlete I imagine scary stories about baby trapping are abound. Hot, Buff guys with huge warning potential? It attracts the kind of girls you need to be careful around.
Anyone else expecting an update with OPs house being vandalized, tire slashed, and other psycho stalker related mayhem? Pretty sure every time he goes out for lunch, or for groceries, Laura will show up and scream "He's mine" to the waitress or cashier. Yes, I see a restraining order in OPs future.
Story 1: Laura even was jealous of children!! She preferred that her boyfriend cried than play with a 3 year old or that he allowed 12 year olds to drown than to help them get to the beach. That’s beyond nuts.
I know, that is bizarre she wouldn't be attracted to him helping children, that typically makes a guy really attractive to most women.
That 2nd story - OP definitely needs to take the roomie to small claims court. That might be the only wake-up call this person gets. Also, who opens a joint bank account with a room mate? All I can think of is that it would make life easier for the landlord to get paid somehow?
Seriously, who thinks sharing a bank account with a roommate is a good idea?? Even if I was living with my best friend… ain’t no way.
Just the staring at his eyes bit was enough of a clue to how much of a psycho she was. OP didn't dodge a bullet, he dodged hald of the world's nuclear arsenal.
story 2: i think it should be a social rule that people work on themselves before they rush into relationships cos yeesh, glad OP and her roommates ex got away from the roommate.
As soon as she mentioned the drugs in the kitchen with friends, I knew it was gonna go downhill fast.
Story 1 she gets mad because op potentially saves two kids from drowning. What a horrible person
@@tallyp.7643for me it was the censoring what OP wore, its one thing if the roomate wears skimpy clothing like that post where the OP was asking the roomate to put clothes on she would wear only underwear or negligees when the OP's boyfriend visited and in the update of that story the roomate tried to steal the op's boyfriend later on, but in this case the OP actually was a normal roomate and the nutcase shot herself on the foot by nuking the relationship all by herself since we dont know what kind of crazy antics she pulled on the boyfriend when they were alone to get him to cut her loose🚩🚩
Moral of the story,
"DON'T LIVE WITH CRAZY, AND IF YOU DO MOVE OUT ASAP!"
Jealousy can be a self-fulfilling prophecy; if you you show a partner that you don’t trust them, then they have no reason to stick around in a hostile relationship
Story 1: I've been through that. OP handled it better than I did. I kept giving her chances, she kept failing. 18 months of hell, I finally broke things off and felt nothing but relief. Jealous partners are toxic. Leave them behind as soon as you can, trust me.
Laura sounds absolutely exhausting and Sarah has enabled it. Glad OP got out of there
Intensional or not Sarah gave him an opportunity to see who she really was.
Story 1- I had a friend in college like this, and if it wasn't for her bf's 'hero' mindset, which created a very codependent relationship I don't think they would have been together for so long. Found out they recently broke up. Her bf was a good friend to me as well, and it was hard to see so many of his friends drift away from him because of her, and his genuine confusion as to why (rose colored glasses) He was and is an active, social person, and she preferred everyone flock to her in her room and just hangout. No effort whatsoever on her part, would throw a huge fit if he tried to leave. Suffice to say, I left her friend group, amd was better for it and it seems he's in a better relationship now (though, she is very adamant to add in FB that they are still VERY close friends *sigh*)
My family and I went to Vegas last year. It is awesome! If somebody tries to keep me in the hotel room for an entire day, I tell them stay if you want but I'm going out to have some fun.
Laura has issues. No one can be happy with someone like her.
2nd story: OMG, the cokehead turned out to be crazy?!? Who could have guessed?!?
Yes, I am abusing sarcasm now. But seriously, Good for you getting out, OP, and good luck in the future!
Yeah, a coke habit essentially causes you to act like someone with bipolar disorder. The symptoms are basically the same, only the cause is different.
For story #2, the first time the roommate did coke in the apartment, I would have kicked her out. That by itself explains why the roommate is such a jerk.
Story 1: Laura likely needs professional help and her “friends” are doing her any favors by never holding her accountable for her behavior and coddling her. The best friend upheld her lies until it wasn’t pertinent anymore (lying about being in a previously abusive relationship).
For the first story. When a person who you think is completely normal changes out of the blue. Because of XYRZ that’s when you have a problem because that means they’re hiding at least a portion of themselves when they’re near you when a person is shitty throughout the whole relationship and just because of the fact that you have rose colored glasses on you don’t notice it that’s a different issue, but if someone drastically changes that you are questioning things, that’s a problem.
Even though Laura did end up just being stupidly possessive, I'm glad OP did give her that second chance of a trip to make sure he wasn't just running away at the first sign of an issue.
Story 1: It's not OP's job to solve her jealousy problem. She's not ready to be in a relationship. She's going to get worse, not better. I'm sure she showed red flags before, but OP just skipped them. His sister is wrong. He's not in a relationship to "change" or "fix" a person. His gf needs to change by and for herself. He might support her, but if she doesn't acknowledge her flaw, what can he do? I had a friend who spewed the same rubbish to me and it turns out that my bf was turning abusive.
Sounds like he was hot and she couldn't handle it
Exactly. This whole bs of people wanting to date a "project" in hopes they'll be so grateful & loyal. Or people looking for others to fix them. That's not how life works & we need to stop normalizing it. We need to normalize people fixing themselves through working on themselves either with therapy or intensive self study but ultimately it's every individual's responsibility to handle their own baggage & stop forcing others to carry it.
@@bhart3321 you would be going against most people in this society where everyone has an issue and they expect you to be the one dealing with it and change as much as they want so you don't trigger their feelings.
Plus sadly there are a lot of people that are obsessed with fixing/saving others thanks to their loneliness but mostly their ego. We have the men with hero complexes that live to save every damaged damsel in distress no matter how much those women step on them or how much money they drain from their accounts.
Then the women with rom-com complex meet this 6ft sexy f-boy that clearly doesn't give a crap about them yet they think that with enough love, marriage, and them turning into their groupies will make them realize how they are the table, how amazing and different they are and love/show the same loyalty toward them.
And most importantly, the people who advocate any way they can, to whoever they can, on how people need to stay in the relationship and fix it no matter what, are those damaged damsels. Because they know if people stop trying to fix others and decided to have healthy relationships instead of mini-trauma bonds, then they'll be screwd. For no man would accept their past, since now most women are sex workers, have kids with multiple men, their obsession with attention/validation, cheating, bs, manipulation, abuse, drama, etc.
Tho F-boys wouldn't care if obsessive needy women would stop being needy 😂
Story 1 This is why I agree with people who say "You don't know someone until you move in together, but you find out who they REALLY are when you go on holiday together."
I definitely think that being away from their home environment for a couple days made Laura lose control of things she usually kept inside. The fact that she felt threatened by him literally not being able to sit next to her on the plane was just unfathomable.
Story 2: This story is wild! Who in the F told them to get a joint bank account???!! That's INSANE!! 😱😱😱😱
S1- This chick got mad on the plane, at the mall, on the strip, and at dinner. I bet she faked being sick to keep him in the room. It’s not OPs responsibility to make herself secure. He has eyes, that means automatically means guilty. This was fate how the plane seats didn’t have them together. OP dodge a torpedo
I hope she gets the help she needs. He was lucky to free himself , but I think is really a sad story, many people suffer that kind of insecurity.
I have always taught my daughter her happiness is her responsibility. She didn't need a man to define her.
Story 1. If it were me, I would leave her. I don't want to walk on eggshells every time I am out with someone like that. She really needs therapy to work out her jealousy issues in therapy and she may never get over this.
Story 2. It's too bad, but it's time for you to find a new roommate. This was confirmed in the update, I hope she kept the BF's number.
Story 1 : good on op for ending the relationship but in order to show the world who Laura is op should've dumbed her in public...
S1: If girlfriend acts this way dump her ASAP. If you marry her she will even be much worse. She needs serious therapy, and YOU can’t fix her.
Also, you are way too young for a fiancée, or marriage. So don’t upgrade her to a higher level relationship unless she does serious work on herself.
Too young for marriage, but not sex? Insane
1st story. NTA. Had a boyfriend like that. Couldn't look at anyone without him saying "who was that, do you know that guy, why are you looking at him", etc. Relationship ended with him trying to convince me to be a puppet & take direction from him. The last time we spoke was him telling me if I left him he would kill himself. That worked for longer than it should have. When I finally had enough I asked him how he wanted to do it. I volunteered to get a knife, gun, rope to hang himself, etc. "Do you want to step in front of a car, how about i dump your a@% in the ocean. The look on his face was priceless. When someone tells you they'll kill themselves if you don't do what they say tell them go ahead. 99.9% of the time it's just a control freak trying to make you do what you're told.
OP1 doesn’t sound like he flees relationships willy-nilly, seems like he flees red flags. It’s good to have standards and boundaries
Exactly. People on Reddit love to preach that you can talk it out with communication, but, nobody should be expected to put up with crap that they don't want to. The fact that Laura changed her behavior so out of nowhere once they left their home environment is indicative of a bigger problem.
Story 1: soooo bump sarah for absolutely lying to ole dude 🙃 a good friend would be actively letting their buddy know when they're in the wrong. Finding out there wasnt even a reason for the behavior other than pure insecurity only makes the both of them look even more terrible.
Glad that man got out of there. When people tell/show you who they are, believe em🤙🏿
Jealous, and insecure people in relationships truly nauseate me. I've rarely heard an instance in which these kinds of people ever try to improve, so I have no sympathy for them.
Story 1: Should I stay? NOOOOOOOO!!! She's nuts! And nuts NEVER gets better!
The fact that Laura was jealous of two children almost being carried out to sea is disgusting, thank god OP saved them and got the hell out of that relationship.
Vegas girl. When she was feeling unwell and kept OP in doors was a major red flag. It was her way of copying the stay-cations she had with him over the previous summers isolating him from the rest of the world.
My last girlfriend, I told her pointedly, “I don’t want to be your source of entertainment. You need to be your own person as well as we need to be a couple.”
We’ve subsequently been happily married since 2017, and married since 2010.
With the roommate I would have gone malicious compliance and been increasingly ridiculous levels of covered when the bf came over. Worn a parka or pull a Joey and wear every single item of clothing. Make her look ridiculous.
Exactly what I was thinking lol I'd wear all my winter gear when he came over, and I'm Norwegian so it's a LOT of winter gear, and when he asked, I'd be honest and tell him "your girlfriend said I cant wear clothes anymore because it's too revealing so I have to cover up" unfortunately crazy bitches like this will STILL find an issue with what you're wearing. "Your snow boots were untied and you weren't wearing socks and he could see your ankles! How dare you!" 😂
i mean in this situation, i have a friend who married a woman who would make comments like this girl when normal things happened like with waitresses, and it got so bad they couldn't even go to the beach, bc she would constantly be looking to see if he was checking out women.... It did not get better with time...
Funny how is some stories even a slight hint of mistrust, linked to a very specific circumstance, is met with "you should be dumped, you don't deserve to be in a relationship", and in some others you have straight up insane behaviour motivated by mistrust and people are like "oh if this is a one time thing you should leave it there"
Story 1: oh. My. God.
Doesn’t matter the gender of the person, anyone like that is just atrocious.
Story 2. That was the best decision OP made. Living with crazy is unsafe.
2nd story: OMGosh when the commentator said, "Spare him from the crazy." I spit my drink out!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Crazy girl "I am pregnant"
Sane man "I am out of here"
The fact that she does coke is a big enough red flag. Destruction of property is a whole other story. Glad the BF saw the crazy and bailed.
Story 1: Having to apologize to a salesperson for her behavior would have been the end for me.
Indeed. It's indicative of being embarrassed to go out into public with your partner.
Sounds to me like the girlfriend in Story #1 had some kind of social anxiety and was a control freak - Good for OP for getting away from her. And her friend Sarah wasn't much better - Best to hit the eject button on them all and leave their toxic mess behind.
I'm glad both OPs got out of their situations!
Story 1 wooo what a freak. OP dodged an artillery shell, not a bullet lol.
You can't change someone who doesn't want to change. Also going into a relationship with the intention of changing your partner pretty much will never work. You get into a relationship with a person you grow to love or already love, not to mold them into the person you want.
Her being that insecure is not his problem to solve nor is it something that he should be required to. Nor could he. She needs to solve that on her own. Especially because it's already on a creepy level. She's staring deep into his eyes to check if he is looking at someone else to the point she is actively avoiding the sights around her, demanding to stay in the room all day and not even let him get food because he HAS to be there only for her and he isn't even allowed to look at other people or have them look at him.
I've seen reddit say people should duck a relationship for less but they see this nuttiness and have people seriously suggesting that the gf should be given another chance. It's just really annoying to see all these chances given to a genuinely toxic relationship on reddit but knowing in the same circumstances others will have people telling them to run.
The friend telling OP to give her another chance is dumb too, especially knowing that there was no cheating in the last relationship. Bloody hell it went exactly the same if not worse because her insecurities are extending to literal children at that point. Then she tried to pull the pregnancy card to force him to stay while demanding he stay to fix her. No, just no. A person shouldn't have to walk on eggshells around an infinitely insecure partner who refuses to help themselves get better. That is just toxic.
Second story basically confirms this video as the insecurity episode. People just being super insecure over nothing to the point of creepiness of vandalizing other's property because how dare they try to fix their own issues.
"I'll change If you stay" = "Stay and show I don't have to stay"
Storey 1: I had this for 5 months and I left quickly, well done for leaving and quickly. There is no joy to be had with that one.
S1 Judgement: NTA
Reason: Laura sounds exhausting.
If I were in OP's shoes: I would go on a trip with Sarah and her boyfriend one more time to see if this is really just a one-off thing, or if Laura has some legit issues that are a deal breaker.
Realistically, he's better off cutting his losses and going his own way. The fact that she accused him of being happy not sitting next to her, the (frankly creepy) staring, the blame shifting and lack of holding herself accountable for her own actions and explaining it as either hormones or "I got cheated on twice", is unacceptable, and leaves OP likely feeling disoriented.
Update: "Are you ready to put your clothes back on? No? Then there is your answer."
The fact that OP helped the kids, and Laura had an issue with it tells me everything I need to know. OP dodged a bullet.
Run!!! Run fast. That jealousy is over the top. Get away quickly. That girl is trouble
Story 1: OP dodged a nuke! What did she want OP to do, gouge the girl's' eyes out!?!
Story 2: Do we even know if the boyfriend truly had feelings for OP? Or uf it was the girlfriend's insecure projections!?!
Sometimes you just can't fix stupid. Usually can't. People either change and grow or stagnate like standing water. No need to drown in their swamp.
If i was OP, and i knew i was gonna break up with her after the beach trip, i wouldve trolled her by being nice to the girls and then told Laura that she can either deal with it or she can go cry in a corner. I wouldnt take her BS.
Oh god the 2nd OP's roommate went full COO COO BIRD.
first story: o.p did the right thing. i was a friend to someone like op's now ex, who was probably 10 percent more worse and let me tell you. it was more toxic being a friend of someone who was a control freak when it came to a relationship and twice as controlling when they would " if you're my friend you will cut so so off too" after she broke up with the guy after he asked a female cashier girl a question. a simple question that had no form of flirtation just a question about an item. it was 3 months of toxic retaliation after but she stopped when a warning of legal action would be taken to her and any of her other friends who took part in the retaliation.
*Laura
Story 1: That level of Jealousy got me in a tight knot of how she Even get jealous over kids and thought "I told that betch is crazy"
Sarah dear, I know You love your friends but My god why does you Even support her crappy jealousy
I'm going to need a bigger red flag for this one.
“My ex tried to control me, now let me control you!”
Imagine getting jealous over potentially drowning children
story 2 I would have moved out once I saw the roommate snorting cocaine in the kitchen. an addict in addition to being paranoid and delusional op did right in running
I'm sorry, but I'd have dumped Laura too. I dated people like that and even have a friend who acted more like a jealous gf than a friend.
I dumped them all.
I'm old enough to know I won't put up with this kind of controlling, insecure jealousy from anyone.
Story 1, and I hate to say this, reminds me of my own mother. My mom is like this to my dad and agh it’s a long story I don’t feel like getting into
Story 1: If the characters were gender bent everyone would have told OP to run.
Right? When it comes to this level of controlling behavior and paranoia, women are expected to cut and run, but men are supposed to have more patience and understanding. People like Laura need therapy, not to be in relationships.
Life's too short for people like Laura.
That kind of insecurity is a real red flag. Had an ex who the last straw was when she called on the house phone and then later asked who was the voice in the background. I told her "One, it was the landlord's daughter, two she's 15 years old and three, don't even go there."
😂😂 Tyvm LG, stay safe please, peace. I'm so glad I'm old. These kind of shenanigans would only happen once. Geeeze,
When he talks about how she reacted to him calling her out, the going blank and just sitting there... that's the actual reason to leave. She shuts down when faced with a consequence for her own actions and dodges any commitment to change. Run, don't walk OP.
Story 2
Heck, OP should report the roommate for the c@ke use!
Story 1: Getting jealous over a 5 year old is a deal breaker. OP never says Laura is the love of his life. She is just a gf. That's all. Time to leave!!
"our server was a showgirl or call-girl (I don't know the proper term)" Um yeah, that's not one you want to get mixed up. Do *not* call a showgirl a call-girl unless you really want to get slapped and kicked out of whatever establishment you're in... Pretty sure they don't like being called prostitutes.
Definitely! I doubt any partner would like their other half sitting there and flirting back, either! He should have shut that part down.
deep deep red flags - ability to ruin a trip, some poor man will have to suffer greatly
Story 1: That woman sounds exhausting.
Story 2: I'm so glad I live alone.
@6:03 "I usually trust my sister's judgment, but I think that she's off the mark this time."
Oh, boy, is she off the mark! Typical. His sister thinks his job as a BF/SO/Husband is ti "fix" the woman, but it is NOT. Only Jesus can "fix" someone, and then only if they WANT to be "fixed."
It is most certainly NOT his job to "fix" his SO.
Exactly. For some reason, this mindset has become more popular when it comes to relationships. It is not up to person A to fix the emotional or psychological problems of person B just because they are in a relationship. That is the kind of thing that everyone needs to take hold of for themselves, especially if they want other people to be able to stand being around them.
The reveal that NO ONE cheated on Laura and that Sarah knew and kept enabling her and lying to first OP was WOW. That was awful.
Hey 👋 yo Lost Genre
Story 1: You learn a lot about a partner when on holiday with them; little habits they have, things they can't live without and what they're really like when away from work and even sometimes their own culture. I'm sure that the girlfriend didn't want the OP sitting next to the volleyball girls due to her jealousy and thought he'd be less chatty with a mum and a five-year-old. The room situation, so the girlfriend agreed to something and then was mad about it. Prior signs of jealousy around other girls? Who goes to Vegas, a sin city when they can't cope with some healthy rivalry. I'd leave this relationship, what happens on the next holiday, their Honeymoon, and the OP's hot future female work colleague he's working with on a project? "I'll try to change but I don't know if I can." is a classic sign of not really wanting to change, she should be looking into therapy, online research for self-help, or something. It's as if the holiday kickstarted the end of the relationship, in the girlfriend's mind. Even her bestie is about done with her. The girlfriend obviously is no fun.
Update: So she can strip down to a bikini, but the OP can't walk around shirtless at a beach. So what if that one volleyball girl had a crush on the OP, it doesn't mean he'll act on it. The girlfriend has issues with being a good samaritan Oh, that break-up, all classic manipulation tactics. An impossible pregnancy. So that's what really happened with Laura's ex, just more paranoia. I have to wonder why Sarah stays by Laura.
Story 2: That's an insecure roommate. If the boyfriend doesn't know that the OP isn't allowed to talk to him or dress a certain way around him, tell him. By not telling him the OP is delaying the inevitable, the break-up. Why is he coming over when she's insecure, she should be going to wherever he lives to be with him and keep the OP separate if she feels so threatened. I seems like the roommate is testing the OP and maybe her boyfriend. Does the boyfriend have a thing for the OP or is he just being polite? The roommate's doing coke, call the police, the boyfriend ended it, good. It can only go up from here.
S2: Oh my god, what the hell? Roomie is insane! OP needs to move, NOW, before Roomie moves on to harming OP directly.
Lol LG you’re growing as a person. You’re talking about hope in the former video. Good job 😃👍🏾👏🏾
S1:If you want to fix something you buy a car,bike,house but do not stay with a person to try to fix them. They have to fix them themselfs,you can only offer support So many bad shit crazy gals these days....jeezzus. Both were an utter nightmare.
Story 1: Should have ended it after the Vegas. Notice with her excuses, she blamed the ex, never took responsibility.
My ex bestie is like this. It’s psychotic to watch them. They lose their minds. Anyone is a threat
S1: G/f's behaviour on the vacation was bad enough, but trying to rug-sweep and deny accountability? Nope. Glad he broke things off, and blocked the bestie. He should also take his sister's advice with a grain of salt going forward.
Story #1 Get assertive OP and revoke the interloping BF'S "all acces pass" to OP'S apartment.
If OP'S roommate's BF doesn't need to go home, but her cannot stay in OP'S apartment any longer.
Too much drama is resulting from a situation the roomate created, that is allowing the BF'S roomate level access to OP in her own apartment. It is not on OP to behave like a stranger in her own apartment.
1- I don’t get why she would go to SIN CITY If she was that insecure! On the airplane OP did the right thing by making lemonade out of the lemons he get!
When he mentioned in an update that Laura would have been just fine and not going on vacation and just hanging around their dorm, that made everything make sense. She doesn't want herself or him going outside of their little bubble. And hitting Vegas of all places? It's no wonder why insecure person like her felt threatened by everything. Also, I guarantee that when she was suddenly feeling sick, she was just faking it to keep OP in her sight.
Story 1, once you have the discussion about insecurity and they acknowledge that you don't like it. That's the last chance. If they don't knock that shit off don't invest any more time
He dodged a tactical Nuke not a bullet.
I would have broke up with her in front of everyone, so she couldn't tell lies about it. Her friends should have also called her out on it, in public. She is an embarrassment with her mental abuse of (seems to me) whomever she dates.
Las Vegas Is absolutely the worst first trip a couple can take but OP better run regardless
When my wife and I go to places together, we try to have a great time. She takes photos, I take photos of her with her phone. I am usually in my own world, I rarely take a photo. We understand each other. We love each other.
Maybe she’s afraid you will notice a different girl and leave her? I think she fears losing you
Wow. Day of crazy ladies