Making an underwater 40k table! Can a table look nice AND play nice?
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- We built an underwater board! We explore the challenges of building a table that works for the camera and gameplay!
The next episode of 40k in 40m is around the corner. Nick vs Nick is back. Tau vs space wolves!
You can watch it now on Patreon: www.patreon.com/playontabletop
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Tau Nick: "THEY'RE NOT FISH PEOPLE!"
Also Tau Nick: *Proceeds to make underwater tau base*
One of my first thoughts ……….
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He also did the beach episode
The original tau base?
Nick is the best, never really liked tau but he actually made them interesting for me. Looking forward to GW giving tau their much needed update and seeing Nick having a field day.
I loved to see this repeat battle with the new Tau Codex
For a big apocalypse game or some special event you guys should bring back the floating cloud base, the coastal map you made for the kaiju game and this underwater setup and have rules to let units transfer between the 3 boards. Would be a pain to run but would be cool if you could pull something like that off!
They'd be three different altitudes! Like anything with FLY can use all their movement to go down or up one altitude, and things without FLY must use an action to change altitude.
This would be absolutely amazing! You could create objectives to tie them all together and as Matthew said, alter how different models can traverse the boards. For example Flyers can traverse freely, but have an objective in the underwater base that the attackers must capture, BUT, the only way for ground units to go underwater is for them to capture and enter a giant lift system on the 'Land' board that would be heavily defended. I think it would make for some really thematic battles.
I think on a nother Channal they did something simular. There was a realspace-table and a warb-table and the portals to get from one table to the other changed every round or where random. It was a Tyranid ( Hiveflat Kronos) vs Demon (Chaos Undevided) battle.
@@draumrsundavar6604 yeah that was miniwargaming a few years back but it was kinda just two separate boards that had nothing to do with each other. Something like this would be more like a fight at every level across a single planet
IMO you guys absolutely have the best 40k content available on the internet, not just UA-cam. You make content that reminds me of why we all started playing in the first place... How damn fun it is. There is so much negative energy in the hobby, and people focus on the bad way too much while you guys do the opposite. You literally just try to make the games as fun and as awesome as possible. Mix that with top notch cinema style B roll, smooth animations, great audio quality, well written scripts and the list goes on and on. It's amazing here so I want to say thank you!
There is one thing that almost every channel fails on and thats getting the rules right.
The time, effort, and passion really shines through in the tables and terrain.
Nick is the best, I’ve got a friend I’m going to start playing warhammer with and he’s playing the Tau almost solely because of nick, because nick made them look fun and has a blast in every game. This my favorite wargaming channel on UA-cam, and I hope you will continue to play on.
This man placed all his skill points in charisma.
Man Nick is just so good in front of the camera explaining content and making it engaging. Amazing work gents! Heres to a million!
This honest, direct to the viewers, discussion on terrain was really great! Nick you have a great voice and really appreciated addressing the championship terrain; was really humble.
Baby on the way this October so I can't swing the Patreon but I'm continuing liking and commenting for The Algorithm!
Thank you anyways! And congrats! Exciting times.
The video production level of your guys battle reports is unreal. Even this video is on another level. I hope you guys can make this full time someday
Other Nick here (Space Wolf Nick?), and wanted to toss my thoughts in since I got to play on this awesome table!
First off, this is definitely the most cinematic table I've ever played on. The PlayOn team did an amazing job, watching their vision come to life was pretty inspiring. The big domes added both character and interesting fire lanes, the leviathan and fish were cool and impactful, and Tycho's backdrop was gorgeous!
If you wanted to re-create something like this (and I hope people do!) there are two things that I'd point out from a game-play point of view:
1. The sloped dome sides can be tough for movement. It's the age-old problem of models on sloped terrain... but I think the cinematic value, beautiful set pieces, and great fire-lanes definitely out-weighed that challenge here.
2. I have yet to play/see a game where verticality is super important and used well by both players. This may be a function of 40k rules in general, or how armies play, etc. If people have examples of verticality being both important and equally impactful for both players, please let me know! (I've got visions of those old vertical Inquisimunda-type games as the pinnacle of this...)
Overall though, another killer table and amazing game. The PlayOn team is second to none for a reason.
Other nick. Your amazing and we love you.
Thank you Nick and the rest of the team for always making such thematic battles. The beach fight, the kaijus and monsters, the flying base, all of it. You guys are always a step or 2 ahead of everyone else and your tables would always be fun to play on. Thanks for all the content you guys make, and I look forward to lots more!
Others are maybe pumping out more BatReps than you, but I will always prefer the work youput into custom battlefields and your narrative playstyle. Also your likeable personalities :)
The BTS of the studio and Tyco's building is amazing! Makes me appreciate the channel so much more!
Love the tables you guys make but yeah placement is 100% a balancing factor. Another thing that always brings me into the games is the music, you guys have a great music selection.
hey this can be a continued version of that beach battle, the tau were retreating underwater, when an ultramarine force showed up, beat those chaos daemons and pursued the remaining tau to the depths
I appreciate how much time is gone into production. The experience and professionalism shows, and I don’t think that there’s anyone who could do it better. Maybe there’s a niche for miniature filming in advertising that you could also branch into?
Your design process looks seriously on par with Hollywood production companies with 10x the budget I think.
Oh hell yes, Nick terrain video! Glad I stayed up to paint.
almost got 10x the amount of views on the tyranids vs space marine battle report! truly impressive.
The maps that you use is sooo cool
Nick, just give in and finally embrace the fact that the T'au are most definitely fish people. It'll make it all so much easier!
There's nothing wrong with Tau being fish people. Fish people are cool!
(TBH, someone should send Nick a few boxes of Idoneth Deepkin models. Just so if the channel runs Age of Sigmar games, he's thoroughly on-brand.)
Just wanted to say I also love your none battlereport videos because it gives you something to learn from or relate to and really shows you are immersed in the hobby.
Nick you're a natural in front of the camera. You make a very intimidating hobby appeal to a very wide audience.
You are speaking from my heart. I hate the all ruins tournaments. Awesone job!
Who's Nicolas? You are Tau Nick!
Amazing looking map.
You can't say they are not Fish People and than build a giant underwater base for them.
Jokes aside: I love your content and your battle reports, armies and players are without any doubt the best ones I have ever seen on YT (and honestly everywhere else too)
My girst army was and still is Blood Angels. My second army was a failed Tau experiment. Now I have chaos marines, but still miss the Tau idea I had. Nick is just so excited, and personable, I wish I hadn't sold my Tau. Oh well, cheers Nick, and keep that possitive attitude!
Finally made terrain for your fish tau I see.
I would love to either see or play on a battlefield set up like a space ship fight. One side boarding onto the other, having to fight through the hangar, and chokepoint hallways, seems like it would be a lot of fun
We actually did one of those for our narrative series on deployment zone tv. It was really cool!
impressive terrain for sure ! :)
A thought : for the underwater terrain/setup you could actually have living fish in a small bowl.. like the classic goldfish in a bowl style ? but maybe with a freakish looking fish in it :)
It would be epic to add a layer or 2 of clear acrylic sheets and make special rules to "swim" between them and give some kind of advantage for attacking from the different angles created by swimming above the enemy or below
Where your channel shines in addition to you guys being really entertaining is the format, I appreciate the edited format since I always don't have the time to watch 3 hour battle-reports
Truly outdone yourselves this time! Cannot wait to see the battle
I LOVE the terrain you guys make and its so flippin' awesome to see you guys put the PASSION and the LOVE into these videos. It's so nmice to see these behind the scenes stuff. I cannot miss a single episode. You guys ROCK!
The amazing terrain work is definitely the first thing that drew me to your channel, and then the rest of you guys kept me here! Great work guys!
Absolutely gorgeous, can't wait for the game. Your sky battle was one of my favorite boards but what TRULY sets you all apart from pretty much everyone else is the dedication to crafting such wonderful pieces and LEARNING from your mistakes. I am still legit happy that you guys responded to and worked to improve the issues with earlier videos and your content has been PHENOMENAL ever since!
You all are my favorite Wargaming channel, easily, due to the fun crew and the gorgeous love for the hobby. Play on, guys, play on!
WOW! Seeing behind-the-scenes pictures of your studio and you guys working on the boards...
I have a newfound respect. You guys are freaking amazing!
Thanks Nick, love seeing the thought process behind such wonderful boards. :)
I -Really- appreciate the behind the scenes for things like this!
This looks amazing, You guys really go above and Beyond to make the game more immersive and exciting, The shooting Lazer effects helps alot.
Thank you for sharing Nick! You are an inspiration.
Absolutely loved this Nick, you guys should do a table breakdown video after every match, the behind the scenes part of it is great for us to understand what goes into making a fun and interesting table to play on, nevermind how you guys tackle as you mentioned, blocking the line of sight for cameras etc. You guys should be very proud!
Play_On is such a great inspiration for my own terrain builds! I am still keeping up the atmosphere of every batlle of 40k played at my table as it is such a essential part of my way enjoying the hobby.
Also I remember the part of the space wolf codex fighting the underwater battle. This is a key part of 40k for me as there are no limits for terrain and planets
we are always making a short narrative for our terrain, even just in few words and we are in.. like literally the world. I love it.
I have the citadel 6 tile modular desk (the plain one, not the city one), painted it like sandy wasteland with deep red buildings and theme is bombed out manufactorum world.
Sounds awesome. I like to do that with my games too :)
@@PlayOnTabletop love your games and your style, it feels casual yet profesional at the same time and I love to paint along. Thank you!!
The ruined city for the Eldar vs Shpeysh Maweens video was one of my favorites ever. I loved the big mossy buildings, but I think this underwater one will probably be my new favorite. I can't wait to see all the custom turbines and stuff.
Honestly, you guys deserve so many more subscribers. Your battle reports are definitely a tier above anything out there right now. I think it is truly a testament to the quality of your battle reports that they are also leaps and bounds better than the actual official battle reports that Games Workshop have created for the new platform.
Your channel honestly makes this hobby so much more accessible mad props
All I can think is "Make a de_dust2 tabletop". Love the channel guys!!
I watch every one of these videos. They are so engaging
6:29 Petition for GW to release an FAQ confirming that Tau are not fish.
This terrain is really incredible ! Congrats for your efforts to make your bat rep really epic !
Cant wait for the battle. Wonderful table.
The under the sea table is amazing but I think the base in the clouds when Nick played his Tau against Taks Ad Mech is still my favorite.
Out of topic, but this will be great for s5 warhammer underworlds
For me the Rule of Cool applies to everything! if I was to play a game and someone wanted to play with paper printed stuff custom designed or not that is more than cool with me :-) I am picking up a some old 3rd edition codexs have several and making Armies designed around them. I will be playing mostly OnePageRules Grimdark setting myself but I like the old flavour of stuff back then. WIll be making Chaos inspired stuff. All or mostly 3D printed all from Paterons or CGTrader, losts of modular stuff. It will take a long time to paint but it will be epic. Have some guard type stuff in mind, working on backstories for them within OPR :-)
If you did a Polis Massa build that’d be sick
Yooo I can't wait to see this batrep! I love all your videos and I think my absolute favorite set so far is your Tau/AdMech fight in the sky, but this is gonna be an awesome set. So proud of you guys!
Okay now play 40k underwater
The terrain is always amazing. It's something I've really struggled with. I just don't know where to start when making terrain. It'd be great if Tyco did a series on creating terrain step by step. He'd be like the Duncan Rhodes of terrain: two thin coats of gravel
This looks amazing, really great work!
You guys are the best. You have set the standard for online battle reports.
Thanks!
Tau 1: So, you interrogated the prisoner, Did he say how he breathed underwater?
Tau 2: He just said the...
In chorus: Emperor protects
Tau 1: Honestly, these people are just as bad as Orks
This needs to be its own series. maybe Nick Builds?
wait! was that a wolf underwater??
That’s what I call a deep dive into table making
For a while, I've had this idea for a D&D campaign set entirely underwater. The PCs would all be from amphibious races (Triton, Merfolk, Simic Hybrids, Sea Elves, and custom races and subraces). It would be them adventuring in a section of the sea ravaged by ancient disaster, its undersea kingdoms left in ruin, its waters and seabed and deep caverns infested by monsters. A classic D&D set up of a post-apocalyptic wilderness, just underwater.
Every time I see something like this, it makes me want to run that campaign all the more.
I mean, looking at this terrain also kind of makes me want to build an Imperial Guard army of soldiers wearing helmets and airtanks. Both for undersea games, and for deep space fighting. Wargames Atlantic have come out with their "Cannon Fodder" box set, which has helmets as one of their head options. I've been thinking of using the Cannon Fodder to make a Guard army. Maybe a few squads equipped to deal with hazardous environments wouldn't go amiss. Or their own detachment. Could be fun.
Awesome content as always, and the sheer Big Nick Energy keeps things hyped. Looking forward to the next batrep, hoping for Kill Team Challenger in the new rule set, and maybe some AoS on the horizon…?
To be fair, I would have been dissapointed if the Space Wolves couldn´t take out what amounts to a hidden base that was supposed to never be discovered in the first place and I will assume that they didnt have heavy weaponry and such things.
Its like Navy Seals storming a small Druglab, sure they would have bouncers, but nothin to challenge some of the most Elite Soldiers out there
The table looks really cool. I'm looking forward to the battle report!
If the pieces are modular, you could also use that underwater terrain for an Idoneth themed game for Age of Sigmar. :)
You bet it is :)
"If you're new here, my name is Nicholas."
Huh, I thought his name was Mr. Explosion, Mr. Tau, or Mr. Exploding Tau. Or Tau Nick if you want to be less formal
"Tau underwater base vs Space Wolves" - can't forget those Sea Assault Wolves. Should have gone with the snorkels for the wolves, would have been hysterical. Or even better-snorkels and floaties
Yeah....I remember that last championship where poor Steve got absolutely shot off the table by all those dakkabots. Good that you guys have learned from it
I am jealous of anyone who has the sheer dedication for terrain. I find painting models cumbersome and honestly not worth it most times. So terrain is just so daunting that I can't even imagine
Tycho here. Use a bigger brush! The secret to doing terrain is to plan your process to match your desired outcome. I think structure, form, and surface as the major problems I need to solve. With the right tools even the biggest sets we have made were not crazy time consuming to make. Weellll most of the time. Sometimes experiments fail and processes take longer than anticipated. In general I recommend hot glue, natural grit, and rattle cans of contrasting neutral colours. Mix those up with some non biodegradable garbage,
sprinkle on some inspiration and elbow grease and great results will follow.
Oh wow, I would love to see the Emperor's Spears or Tide Haunters on this board.
Have you considered putting GoPro's into large terrain elements? That could give you more freedom for placement of large line of sight blocking terrain elements as you have a camera angles that than "see" out the other side. The cameras are small enough that they can easily be hidden. Plus they ludicrous some other overusing options like fire from the troops eye level. Or a civilian's view from their hiding spot.
interesting idea. . .
If it wasn't for my friend/roomie & a trip to a pet store then all I'd have is a ruin Mechanicus factory set (He made a few things, including a small plateau made from pure cardboard & hot glue)... thou I gota one day coat those ruins it in Null Oil, it looks to clean
Some times you just gota use what's on hand, even if its a toaster, especially with the price tag on GW's stuff.
It inspires me to try and make my own.
i love it!!!! ive recently finished my 40k terrain mars factorium, im gonna make a vid of it this week
easy to make terrain tutorial with Nick and the fish people when?
(no, really, I´m not joking, I´d watch it in a heartbeat)
Your channel is amazing. It made me actually come back to the hobby after a 10+ year hiatus.
You guys are absolutely 💯 killing it with it with the terrain, I love it. My question is:
How do you decide how big the terrain should be with so many details? I know there are rules for that, but as you said, you guys want to tell a story. Are your terrains bigger than the average gaming tables?
Planning things out is important, vision boards and sketches keep the build on track. Our tables are standard (often minimum) size, not everything we build is meant to interact with the game. Backdrop and set dressing pieces are great for immersion. Warhammer in general is more interesting with lots of terrain especially a line of sight blocking big something in the middle.
@@PlayOnTabletop Thank you so much for your reply, really appreciate the tips with vision boards and sketches - this did not occur to me at all when planning my terrain layout.
You guys in my opinion are certainly amazing to watch. When games workshop asked for our thoughts on what can they do different for warhammer plus. I said they need to take a few tips from you guys on there battle reports. Yeah that’s right I said it. I love you guys! Hope to battle you one day!
Killing tau's line of sight is very competitive. )
Yes! L ruins are good for gameplay but I've been trying to make a point of collecting useful LOS blocking terrain that is NOT that (right now that's in the form of some 3d printed tyranid spires I have to paint).
Also you're in canada! I didn't know, but it's exciting to know that you guys are "nearby" (I'm east coast, so not nearby at all).
You guys are awesome.
Great studio shot.
Geesh cray cray dollar amount of equipment there
It takes a lot of stuff to do this right!
@@PlayOnTabletop Setting the standard is what you are doing there :)
I have been having a Nick moment recently. Similar to him and Tau and his switch to GSC, I love me my Imperial Guard, but up against my friends Thousand Sons, Grey Knights, Necron, and Death Guard, I have had to step back into a more competitive army. I have been building up my Space Marines instead, waiting for the time when my Guardsmen are viable again.
Those look like Space Wolves I can't wait
Nick could explain math to me and I would still find it engaging
Love these thought bubble videos
Cool idea. Love the school of fish
Now bring out the fish tank and dunk the models underwater for realsies.
Damn, you guys HAVE to play AoS on this: Idoneth Deepkin vs anyone
"being attacked by the evil space wolves"
*Thousand Sons fans:* "Yes. Good."
Love the map, but laugh at the idea of wet dogs being a part of it.
after seeing this board the music of the vampiric coast plays ahem
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY LIVING UNDERNETH THE SEA
I love these BTS videos. Great stuff.
cue the space wolves deploying in the water like in that one bionicles commercial
Love your batreps guys! Are you doing this full time? Inspiring.
Manatees, that’s perfect for the Tau, at least for the underwater fight. But no, they aren’t fish people, they are blue communist space cows.
this is sick!!
A board like this makes me want to convert underwater tyranids.