Technics SL1210 sounding better.. Funk Firm Upgrades, Houdini, Cobra Head Shell and APM.

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  • Опубліковано 29 жов 2024

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  • @MichaelYates
    @MichaelYates 2 роки тому +9

    A great day experimenting,. £300 is a lot of money to tie up in a little gadget who's name escapes me at the moment but sounds like it could be worth it.

    • @Jaysbee1
      @Jaysbee1 2 роки тому

      🤣👋👋

    • @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox
      @jimsregaturntableshifijukebox 2 роки тому

      Hi Michael, a guy on eBay UK is selling the Funk Firm Houdinis for £199 at the moment. 😉
      Jim 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙂

    • @r423sdex
      @r423sdex 9 місяців тому

      😂

  • @markwilkinson5614
    @markwilkinson5614 Рік тому +1

    Great entry, mate. This is really an eye opener.

  • @tg6373
    @tg6373 Рік тому +3

    I can confrim that the 2m Blue coupled to the Houdini is outstanding. It really is that good.

  • @DougMen1
    @DougMen1 2 роки тому +5

    This is why I gave up vinyl for CDs decades ago, so I didn't have to worry anymore about all this stuff (including the costs involved), as well as constantly cleaning the records and stylus, not to mention the enormous amount of extra space required to store vinyl. Vinyl MAY have slightly better sound quality over CDs, but not enough to me to deal with all those extra hassles.

    • @davidcarr2216
      @davidcarr2216 2 роки тому +1

      Hi DM , fancy seeing you here !! The problem with vinyl is that you can never get truely accurate replay from it. It can sound great and you can really enjoy both the listening and the tinkering and tweaking but it's never going to be accurate. You can spend a gazillion on a TT setup but you'll never get there, not doable, not possible, This is why hard core analoguists like R2R for their analogue fix, but even R2R has its issues. The difference in mastering between the different formats also muddies the water considerably.BTW, I'm absolutely not suggesting that people shouldn't love their vinyl replay, as I once did, when I had the space.

    • @djsubculture2111
      @djsubculture2111 2 роки тому +5

      My 1210Grs will outlast any CD player.

    • @jediknightdiscomike22
      @jediknightdiscomike22 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@djsubculture2111yup. Bought my current tts back in 1986. Heavy mods done to it. Still kicking. Bought my first cd Player Sony x55 es cd Player in 1991. Lasted till 2009 because the laser went out. Purchased a used Sony 777 es cd Player. Could not match the sound coming from my heavy modded technics 1200 tts. I sold the cd Player and still have the 1200s.

    • @ralex3697
      @ralex3697 3 місяці тому

      So why are you here ?

  • @davidwatson1460
    @davidwatson1460 Рік тому +2

    According to Ortofon. The 2m black stylus is interchangeable with the 2m Bronze but Not the 2m Blue ??

  • @markkilmister4119
    @markkilmister4119 Рік тому +1

    Very interesting video, loved it.

  • @manosmul6827
    @manosmul6827 2 роки тому +3

    Frickins head's gone.. heads gone.. :) great stuff. I think I will not now get a record player..:)

  • @haycrossaudio5474
    @haycrossaudio5474 2 роки тому +1

    Great video mate. Very well explained and detailed

  • @Ferdikap
    @Ferdikap 2 місяці тому +2

    The apm was an very good upgrade to me. But the Houdini is to expensive. Because i have 4 different cardridges and there is not 1 good sound option for overall the music category's. That means every cardridge that i have needs 1 cobra and 1 houdini. I don't like it for the price

    • @fawnboy2002
      @fawnboy2002 23 дні тому

      Why cant you use the same houdini and cobra on for all 4 cartridges?

  • @JumbleTasteSpinning
    @JumbleTasteSpinning 2 роки тому +2

    just purchased a full funk firm set for my Technics SL-1210GR / Nagaoka MP-200 setup:
    the achromat for 1200, the cobra headshell and the houdini.
    also purchased the mnptech isolation feet and the audio technica AT6108 leads as well.
    i just can't wait for hear the results on my precious japanese technics.
    great video! keep on the good work my friend.
    best regards from israel.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому +2

      @JumbleTasteSpinning 👍👍
      Let me know how it all sounds 👌

    • @JumbleTasteSpinning
      @JumbleTasteSpinning Рік тому +1

      ​​​​​​@@dittonworks well, after a couple of months of use:
      The houdini is amazing, allthough the plastic screws and the install are very annoying, so i purchase long brass screws and now it's great and looks great as well.
      The cobra headshell is good, but too high and feels a bit cheap: the arm is very low and close to the record. Did'nt like it, allthough it looks great.
      The achromat is really that upgrade of them all that makes a big difference - you can hear it right away! just one big problem: it's wobble. not flat at all.
      I can't stand it to see the record wobble like that, so i return the rubber mat and consider to buy the AMP one with the glass. That should be total flat.
      My conclution: begin with the AMP mat first or the achromat (if it's flat).

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  Рік тому +2

      @@JumbleTasteSpinning APM 👌

    • @jediknightdiscomike22
      @jediknightdiscomike22 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@JumbleTasteSpinningdo you still have the hodini & cobra? How do you like it?
      I had a herbies record mat which sounded good on my 1200mk2 after replacing the stock mat. I then tried the achromat which was a step up from the herbies record mat. You may want to try the soundeck record mat which is a step up from the achromat and it is totally flat.

    • @jediknightdiscomike22
      @jediknightdiscomike22 7 місяців тому +1

      ​​@@JumbleTasteSpinningalso did you get the apm? How does it sound over the achromat? And where did you get the brass screws for the hodini? I may get it.

  • @coltuppal
    @coltuppal Рік тому +2

    i think the apm mat only worked better than the others because the others could never sit correctly due to the sl1210 platter ridge. another mat that works brilliantly with these turntables is the hexmat eclipse

  • @garth56
    @garth56 2 роки тому +3

    This almost brought a little tear to my eye and reminded me of my past. Way back when there was another English guy, forgotten his name at the mo I'll post it if I remember, who made a similar device as the Houdini it wasn't as nice looking but did the same thing. He also had his own cartridge based on MI (Grado) (moving iron) technology called the Music Maker which is similar to mm. Anyway these cartridges were similar in price to mid-expensive mc's and sounded every bit as good if not better. Anyway I know what the Houdini can do but as you've said it returns less as you go up the price in arm and cartridges. My current TT is the amazing Dohmann Helix 1 v2 SAT arm for for almost £90K I doubt it would make any difference or might even mess with the setup although for just £300 it would be worth ago.. I am looking at Arthur's new arm which is around the same price as the SAT £30k it looks incredible. I spoke to Arthur many years ago for a long evening over many many drinks, incredible guy but totally out there. Arthur (Funk) makes incredible isolation feet have you tried them on your turntable???

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому +2

      The Funk feet are my next purchase 👍
      Thanks for watching.

    • @garth56
      @garth56 2 роки тому +1

      @@dittonworks Oh I forgot to mention my speakers as you mentioned at the end of the video that you like speakers. They are the Tannoy Westminster Royals and very good they are to. Massive yes but incredible from a whisper to a scream ;-)

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому +2

      @@garth56 omg 😳 that’s a mega set of Tannoy’s.. wow I’d love to hear your set up 👍👍

    • @garth56
      @garth56 2 роки тому +1

      @@dittonworks You're welcome 🙂

    • @LadStones
      @LadStones Рік тому

      Len Gregory, The Cartridge Man Ltd. I don't see why the Houdini wouldn't make a difference to any arm. If it works, it works. You may not prefer the sound but I'm sure it would change it.

  • @silverstreak2006
    @silverstreak2006 2 роки тому +1

    And why not, good video as always.

  • @mertonnephake
    @mertonnephake 2 роки тому +1

    Wondering if the Houdini cartridge decoupler would bring any benefits to a Nasotec swing headshell, which kind of decouples the cartridge from the tonearm in horizontal movements, though it’s not its main purpose but self-alignment during playback (zero tracking error). I haven’t heard of anyone using them both, but already come across a shop that sells turntables and offers the both options to be added. Does the Funk Houdini decoupler add some play in vertical movements (up and down) to increase trackability of warps, for example, in contrast to the Nasotec swing headshell?

  • @jackdanielsamarreto
    @jackdanielsamarreto 11 місяців тому +1

    Good afternoon I have purchased a technics 1210 Gr turntable and I am thinking of purchasing the Vincent pho 701, just to confirm these turntables HAVE NOT GOT BUILT IN AMPS ?

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  11 місяців тому +1

      No built in phono stage with SL1200/1210

  • @hoobsgroove
    @hoobsgroove 2 роки тому +2

    be careful using a record weight I know on the Mkll you can't use it because it's a nylon shim it's probably the same on that, if you're going to want something like that use a michell engineering delrin clamp.
    how much does a Houdini weigh? I use balsa wood and that does work very well .
    another thing try couple of tight o-rings over the nut, there's issues with the nut and headshell assembly. there is a fixed but you needs to dismantle the socket in the arm and headshell. worth putting some copper tape on the plinth below the platter cut down magnetic failed and wrap a piece around the the arm in the middle.
    get some moongel put them under your feet and 2 pieces on the plinth between the platter and arm.
    ideally need to take the transformer out and have a switch mode power supply separately to the unit, that'll make a real big difference.
    yeah you wanna use 30 gauge solid silver wire with teflon tubing not expensive.

  • @steventromans9005
    @steventromans9005 2 роки тому +3

    Ha ha kev you've caught the bug 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Hypofx
    @Hypofx 2 роки тому

    great review, FunkFirm all the way, Im a proud owner of a Vector MkII Arthur is a genius

  • @iareburgman
    @iareburgman Рік тому +1

    I've really been looking into adding this to my setup which is pretty simple as far as my deck goes. So it's quite easy to install even with an existing headshell? Or would you recommend a brand new headshell to make this Houdini sound even better?
    Thanks for the video

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  Рік тому +1

      Hi 👋
      Cobra headshell is required if you’ve run out if VTA, the APM is thicker than the usual acromat so I needed the cobra 🐍

  • @richardherbert3519
    @richardherbert3519 Рік тому +1

    Very very interesting video

  • @mariokrizan1400
    @mariokrizan1400 2 роки тому +2

    Greetings from Argentina 🙋‍♂️ Very good channel and these accessories are very interesting. I wanted to ask you if you have tried the Audio Téchnica AT VM540 ML and AT VM 740ML micro linear capsules and if so, your opinion, comparing them with the Ortofon 2M Blue. Thank you very much.

  • @benireges
    @benireges Рік тому +1

    Is achromat really worth the money? Ive watched comparison videos on youtube with my best audio setup and it didnt sound that much different from other mats. In fact i found that the acrylic mat edged it in terms of instrument separation

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  Рік тому

      It worked on the deck very well but this was in conjunction with the other funk firm bits most importantly the Houdini

  • @Ricky-cl5bu
    @Ricky-cl5bu 8 місяців тому

    That was great advice

  • @agx502
    @agx502 Рік тому

    Great video. Analogue vs digital really depends on how the source material was mastered. Early CD's are terrible for instance. Oh a simple low cost tweak you may want to try is remove the platter on the sl1200. Tap the platter in various places you will see that it is the inner boss under the platter that rings more than the platter itself. By eyeballing that boss you will see that it can be unscrewed easily by a few screws. Remove the boss, and pack the voids underneath with blue tac, refit the boss and put the platter back on. Listen and you should get a calmer sound with more insight. But as always YMMV perhaps your fancy mat is filtering this out, but it is good to remedy this ringing at source.

  • @fawnboy2002
    @fawnboy2002 23 дні тому +1

    How about trying Funk's FX5 arm on your Technics?

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  23 дні тому

      Technics has gone I’m afraid.
      Rega replaced it

    • @fawnboy2002
      @fawnboy2002 22 дні тому

      @@dittonworks ah ok, how does Houdini and son perform on the Rega compared to stock form?

    • @fawnboy2002
      @fawnboy2002 22 дні тому +1

      Son? Predictive text wrong again! I meant apm

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  22 дні тому

      @@fawnboy2002 no problem 😉
      Rega has been left standard, I’m afraid I don’t know how it performs sorry

    • @fawnboy2002
      @fawnboy2002 21 день тому +1

      @@dittonworks Any plans to try them on your Rega?

  • @tukamotudo
    @tukamotudo 2 роки тому +1

    Great great video. Can you share links for the APM + headshell , thanks

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому +1

      There you go
      thefunkfirm.co.uk/

  • @shaunfaesolar
    @shaunfaesolar 2 роки тому +1

    it woul be good if you did comparrison recordings of the deck with and without the upgrades so we can hear the difference ourselves rather than going only be description.

  • @warrior9085
    @warrior9085 Рік тому +1

    Ortofons are old,change to the Audio Technica VM95 range.Other beneficial upgrades Rega rb250/300
    preferably rewired will lift the1210 to higher level.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  Рік тому

      No point using the better arm while I’ve got the Houdini.. it eliminates the arm.
      Next cart! I’ll try your recommendation 👍

    • @warrior9085
      @warrior9085 Рік тому +1

      The tone arm bearings will have a big influence even with the houdini in place and older 1210 tonearms were prone to having sloppy bearings made worse by dj misuse!
      When funds permit just change the tonearm and use with the Ortofon/Houdini,you may be surprised.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  Рік тому

      @@warrior9085 mine has never been Dj’d and the KAB fluid trough helps no end..

  • @christopherward5065
    @christopherward5065 2 роки тому +1

    The odd thing is that the Ortofon Concorde and the 2M blue are close relatives. I f you get an OM20 or OM30 or OM40 the Concorde will be incredibly good.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому

      I’m using 2M Black and Quintet Blue..
      Not sure I’d go backwards now

    • @christopherward5065
      @christopherward5065 2 роки тому +2

      The OM30 and OM40 became the 2M black. Apparently the styli fit both OM and 2M models.

  • @ET2carbon
    @ET2carbon 6 місяців тому

    When you say HF, you should say Treble. HF is a communications term where you're referring to inaudible frequencies used as carriers in electromagnetic transmission

  • @mladenbasic1
    @mladenbasic1 2 роки тому +2

    The video looks great, content is fantastic, but you could really use a lav microphone to get you to the next level.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому

      Thanks.. yes I really must get a mic 🎤 sorted

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 роки тому +1

      @@dittonworks
      use DaVinci-resolve,for your sound and video editing,
      role of the bottom and top ends at - 24 db 100Hz and 1050Hz give you that professional sound.

    • @dittonworks
      @dittonworks  2 роки тому +1

      @@hoobsgroove yep.
      It all costs money buddy.
      This channel is demonetised, so unlike some channels, I have to pay for everything.
      Let’s see if the channel grows anymore? Then I’ll invest a few quid on better equipment 👍
      Thanks for watching

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 роки тому +1

      @@dittonworks they do a free version

  • @benireges
    @benireges Рік тому +1

    Sadly houdini isnt available here in europe :(

  • @rogerthedodger940
    @rogerthedodger940 Рік тому

    Yeah Buyers BIAS...