Foundations of Metropolis Review - Forget a day... This is built in an hour!
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2024
- Tom Vasel, Joey Evans, and Chris Yi take a look at Foundations of Metropolis.
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For comparison purposes, Chris rated Foundations of Rome a 6.5 (wasn't a fan of its over-production), and Tom rated it a 9.
As someone who owns Foundations of Rome, I can appreciate the fact it was expensive and is a pain to travel with. The 2 point difference is rough but its a fair opinion. I think the game play is incredible and the table presence is so epic ... that personally I justified it. If game play wasn't as good as it is, this would have hurt my soul. Metropolis is far more approachable for everyone from a financial point and I really like that they came out with this.
Chris is wrong. Foundations of Rome production is stellar and I'd change nothing
Thanks for Chris Yi for staying grounded.
I wish they had just made a regular edition of "Foundations of Rome". The re-theme as "Metropolis" makes it feel more generic to me.
This version I'd actually buy - one that doesn't take an absurd amount of shelf space
Finally a "foundations" game that is the right size for me. instant buy for me
Buy it yet?
Got in on the early preorder price at GN.
I liked the concept of Foundations of Rome, but could not justify the cost for the gameplay (though I was almost suckered by the architectural minis). Definitely looking forward to this; I feel like it might replace Quadropolis in my collection.
I like Quadropolis, but I love Foundations of Rome. The gameplay is so incredibly interesting for such simple rules.
Did I miss what it looks like with buildings out on the board?
Great overview, Joey! I have the big boy Foundations of Rome and it's one of my favorite games of all time. I like the fact that this game is a more financially sound purchase and will get into more people's hands.
This is going to be added to my collection for sure.
Does the rulebook for this version also have the variants that foundations of Rome has?
The first player token for the deluxe edition should be a Superman figurine.
Great review guys
Love Foundations of Rome, top 5 game all time for me. Glad the gameplay experience will get into more homes now. Big question though, how easy or difficult is it to pick up the cardboard building tiles from the main board when it is partially full?
Good review, but what does the metropolis look like?
Buying this immediately
I'm actually a little surprised there wasn't a comparison to Rebuilding Seattle. Obviously a very different game but population as a commodity is an integral feature of both games. I passed on both Foundations of Rome and Rebuilding Seattle but I might pick up this one. Or at least add it to my neverending list of games I would buy if I ever got a second job and had no time to play all the games I already have.
I’m predicting there will at least be a few expansions coming soon, to match what is in FoR’s base game. It would be interesting if they added “city traffic” or something related to modern metropolis. Kaiju? Maybe
100% - if the game is as good as fans say, there’s no reason it won’t.
This game is more accessible fiscally and storage wise.
Looks good but why is the board upside down?
Love the Metroplex Transformer in the background! ❤
What about all the expansions included in Foundations of Rome? I feel like those modules really made the game shine long term.
Yeah I agree, was wondering about this too.
I bet we'll see an expansion pack for it. I doubt we'll see all of the expansions because some are not really played by anyone, but I think we'll see most of them.
Definitely Monuments and the new roads ones.
Maybe Hidden objectives, Player roles, Trading/stealing.
I don't think we'll see Will of the consul (coop), Garden of Ceres (solo) or the 5th player.
So do you move those buildings to the board or just the cubes?
You place the buildings and replace the wooden claim markers back to your board as he shows. The more claim markers you have together, the larger building you can place out.
@@thedicetower Ahhh great, thank you for the reply.
Never played either but could this be described as sorta like Chinatown without negotiating?
I'd be curious to know how this compares to Big City (the '90s version by Franz-Benno Delonge), a game that's been in our collection since its release.
There are some similarities, but this is smoother, easier, and better in my opinion. Big City feels a bit dated.
@@thedicetower Thanks, that's helpful to hear!
I just bought FoR Friday. I refuse to regret it lol
I’m glad this version is coming, but I do not regret being all in on foundations of Rome. FoR Has all the modules to increase the variability. This game deserved to have a easier to access version though so I’m very happy it exist.
You shouldn't! It's such a good game!
Did you notice they didn't show what the board looks like at the end game? It's going to look very underwhelming. FoR is awesome. That kind of game is one of a kind. You can pass that along to your grandkids. It will always be awesome.
@@grog3514 it looks like buildings too colorful and hard to read on the board.
why would you regret it? This version is hideous...
What's it like with 2 players? That's how I predominantly play
You use a smaller grid on the back side of the board and therefore a smaller deck. It works very well. You have to balance not letting your opponent get every lot they want while also trying to get the lots you want. Very interactive.
@@thedicetower Thanks for the info! I did think it looked a huge board for 2 players. This looks really good, I think I'll put it in my list😊
I would buy Rome if could buy it in a day.
I would do anything for Rome…but I won’t do that!
Too bad, Rome wasn’t bought in a day.
Are there any changes to the rules from foundations of Rome to this?
Nope.
Looks to be none.
Love the discussions but how do the building tiles Actually look in this version? Would be great if you could show it in the review. As much as Rome is way overproduced, I hope this version's buildings will still look decent at least.
Did you want a zoom in or just miss 1:25
I had planned on selling FoR for a profit and getting this game since it's the same. I could get hundreds of dollars and a free game yet i don't think i want to do that anymore. I also don't think the minis add hundreds of dollars in value. Im not sure why i changed my mind.
Is this the minimal base game only? The monuments are a must, to where I would call it a core part of the game. Are there cardboard monuments in this box? And are there only 4 players in Metropolis?
No monuments and only 4 players. No solo, player roles, or trading and stealing either.
I agree. Pretty surprised this rated so high without monuments. Like they add so much to the game for Foundations of Rome....
@@MichaelAW17 Base game in the begining. Expansions later. That's business.
Joey, why is the main board positioned that way?😂 Perfect when teaching in person, not so when doing a video demo.
Because their camera is landscape not portrait. It was fine.
@@Andrew.Griffin The main board is upside down. Weird choice for a video. Perfect for when you know the game and are teaching the person across from you.
Got to play a full game of this at Dice Tower West this year. Liked it a lot. Definitely will get on the table more rhan Rome and a good price point.
Fun time 8/10
I'm going to get this, and then I'm going to buy $100 worth of GeekUp bits and deluxifications. 😅
I was going to say! Someone is going to 3D print buildings for this. 🤓
🤣🤣🤣
Wish it was 5 players.
Chris deducting 2 whole points for being "over-produced" is silly. It's the same gameplay.
I get it seems silly, but I still stand by it. Every table I see playing it has to stand up at some point to see if there are lot markers behind the massive buildings. I just saw pictures today of the Castle Panic Deluxe and had the same thought: I would never consider paying for that nor want to store it for the game it is even though it's the same gameplay as the standard Castle Panic. -Chris
It looks to me like Welcome to.. with extra steps.
And I love welcome to so this seems great
I love Welcome to also, but the 2 are nothing really alike, except I guess they both involve cities, lol
I bought Earth after a clean sweep from this panel. Ugh. I will not trust them again . . . after I buy this game.
Earth was such a disappointment to me as well!
Same, wasn't a fan of Earth either.
I thought earth was really dull. I still can't believe they rated it so high. I can accept a few people loving the game because a lot is subjective. But an entire panel of professional reviewers? I just don't believe it.
Foundations of Rome is actually a great lightweight game though. But I noticed they didn't show us what the game looked like with all the tiles laid out. Weird.
@@grog3514Earth was nominated as game of the year by many many awards. You can’t believe that 4 people love it?
Earth was initially considered the Ark Nova killer, but that certainly didn’t hold up
Would you still get this if you own Foundations of Rome?
Absolutely not. They are the same game. The only problem people had with Rome was the size and the price. It is a very easy game to setup and tear down, AND has more content than this edition.
After seeing what the tiles art looks like, no way I will get this. The most tedious part of the game is calculating civic building points. In FoR it's easy to differentiate buildings by their size, shape, color, and tags. In this version, those colors will look like a giant blob I think. I can't say for sure because no one has released a picture of a completed game for some reason.
I highly disagree that Foundations of Rome's production is a knock against its score. Rome has a great, functional, and legible production that adds to the game. I'm glad I have my copy of Rome, but I am also glad people will take the game seriously -- or they can actually afford -- this edition.
It’s not just the price but the how easy it is to buy. Foundation of Rome can only be brought through jumping through hoops like making a credit card, putting money on it, sign up to crowd funding website, do all the details. Buy the game within a certain time period and wait for many months. If you miss out wait for another few years until the next printing. I wish I can just buy it at retail. Buy Rome in 1 minute.
Except for the part where you sometimes had to get up and walk around the table to see how all the buildings are situated, because their 3-D nature sometimes made it impossible to see certain things without getting up.
@@xshadowscreamx In contrast, crowdfunding is way to quick for me. 😂
Cheers, ☕️
This is what they should have made in the first place. I agree with Chris, that Foundations of Rome was waaaaay overproduced for the relatively simple game that it is. Foundations of Rome should have been saved for some sort of limited anniversary edition.
Disagree. Foundations of Rome is the superior game and experience. This edition is fine, but I wouldn't trade the table presentation, extra modules and amazing storage for this.
So.. this is a reimagining of "Chinatown"?
Not really, apart from building on plots of land (this was originally in Acquire). But there's no negotiation and plots aren't distributed randomly to players except for during setup. I hated Chinatown but love this game.
If you want a redo of Chinatown, Waterfall Park is the game. Came out last year.
Rome is a game to play at conferences, Metropolis is a game to play at home.
GhettoRome... but it was good to see a budget version that still gets the gameplay.
I want to know how Camilla feels about this game that uses tiles instead of 3D buildings.
FoR: Supermodel
FoM: Girl next door
Each has its pros and cons but I love them both! (Attainable at different price points.)
News for you. They look there same in the dark and the next morning.
I would never choose this version over foundations of Rome. If I'm building a city I want it to look impressive and 3d flat tiles are just so boring to me in this kind of game
Yeah, why not just play New York 1901?
Cheers, ☕️
Taking in the average of the scores it’s looking like a solid 7.5. I haven’t found any dice tower essential game to be that good sadly.
This game is really good. Unfortunately it kinda needs monuments and the roads expansions. It's too samey otherwise.
Foundation Of Rome for the poors and whiners who called FOR overproduced... Too bad they don't make a cheap Ferrari so I ALSO can own ONE 🤡🤡🤡
I think that you do. It's called a "car."
@@thedicetower Guess we need a cheaper version of EVERY expensive games out there so that everyoneeeeee can enjoy them...
Looks kinda boring.