With teflon/PTFE being a primary ingredient, I would make sure to use it in a well ventilated area and/or use a mask with an organic vapor cartridge. Teflon is one of those "forever chemicals" that accumulates in your body
Great point! Our workshop is very airy and there is an extraction fan. Personally, I can't work with a mask on. That shouldn't stop anyone else from using whatever PPE they deem necessary to protect themselves...
Good stuff, one thing, rag? Ok if it's really cruddy use the oily rag first But microfibre cloths are as good as that chain clean thing, the grit sticks to them and comes off the chain
Brilliant video from a man who knows! Learned a lot and great to see the tips on how to keep the environment clean while you're cleaning your drivetrain. Long live GT-85!
You are very welcome @Hertog_von_Berkshire. One can't be blamed for not knowing what they don't know, especially when the whole industry relentlessly chants over oiling and degreasing. I had to look up what Jizer was. I still eat too much good food, but it does help me hold my wheels on my lap! So sorry I haven't responded sooner. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested.
Yes, PTFE is bad for the environment. Over oiling a drivetrain with anything (GT85 included) and then using degreasers and over oiling again is worse. The grime from over oiling and wearing the drivetrain away quicker is less environmentally sound just on it's own. There really isn't much about riding a bike that is good for the environment...
Thanks Rick... glad it gave you a little reminder. Have you seen the latest video about cleaning and lubing your chain on the bike to prevent mucky build up? Still trying to get the Lurpak out of my hair...
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @luzzyrogue8617. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. You say you do the same as I do... what product do use rather than GT85? Good on you... so many people clean their bikes like a bull in a China shop.
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @erhan6095. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. You are very welcome and thanks for letting me know.
Why do you cut off the gear cable? Most of the time, the cable end cap is easily removable if you just push on it from the sides with flat nose pliers. And then install a new cap afterwards. Also, I found that an easy way of cleaning the insides of the chain is using air from a compressor. I do it while holding a rag under and running the blow gun over the chain. Muck flies right off. P.S. Lurpak, go Denmark ;)
As I said before it's best to talk to someone who actually works on the equipment like yourself. Many thanks. Got myself a Pedro's chain checker and some of your GT85 which is hard to get in Australia. Ready to clean and check chain periodically. Just put a new 10 speed Cassette and chain on my Giant Dirt 2 2018 ebike. How often should you clean ?. Graeme in Australia
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @graemer66. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. One of my life rules is to always ask an expert. You are very welcome and glad you got benefit from the video. This is where I bought GT85 from the last couple of times I was back home in Australia... au.rs-online.com/web/p/lubricants/8952306 It has become quite apparent that GT85 global availability has been massively reduced since WD40 acquired the company. In answer to your question, little and often. I have recently put a video up showing how I do this on my own bikes reducing the frequency of having to do a full on deep clean.
I am yet to get deeper into this, but will at some point. A tester of all things oily to clean chains with globally or something like that. When WD40 bought GT85 circa 10 years ago they massively reduced where it could be bought internationally. Last coupla times I was home in Oz, I bought from a company called RS Components. They are a UK company and it was shipped there through their network. One of the things I want to try cause it is what I used when I was racing at home is Tri-Flow which I think is readily available in the US, Try it and let me know how you get on if GT85 is unavailable...
With teflon/PTFE being a primary ingredient, I would make sure to use it in a well ventilated area and/or use a mask with an organic vapor cartridge. Teflon is one of those "forever chemicals" that accumulates in your body
Great point! Our workshop is very airy and there is an extraction fan. Personally, I can't work with a mask on. That shouldn't stop anyone else from using whatever PPE they deem necessary to protect themselves...
I was gonna make the same comment, but it's probably too late! :)
But it's chemically inert
There's lots of confusion in this, PTFE isn't the problem, it's the PFOA used in its manufacture
Im so glad Ive found this channel, I trust big belly bike mechanics
You're not the 1st to say and I see the logic...
Just subbed. Quality videos 👌 first thing I did was go out and buy gt85 😄
I don't think we can get GT-85 in the states, but I know a lot of bike shops us tri-flow and it sounds similar because I know that too has ptfe.
You didn't talk about waxing the chain, shock horror. This is excellent no bs!!
Hahaha... waxing is for legs and surfboards! Glad you like it...
Good stuff, one thing, rag?
Ok if it's really cruddy use the oily rag first
But microfibre cloths are as good as that chain clean thing, the grit sticks to them and comes off the chain
Have you watched my other video about cleaning and lubricating your chain at the same time?
I was just about to blast my wheel bearings and hubs with degreaser. I watched your video and followed your approach... Close call lol.
Stick with it! A much better solution in the long run...
Brilliant video from a man who knows! Learned a lot and great to see the tips on how to keep the environment clean while you're cleaning your drivetrain. Long live GT-85!
Thanks for saying so 👍 So glad you got something from the video more than how to do the job...
Excellent, thanks Ashley. Whoops, I've been doing a few things wrong. I do like my Jizer.
You are very welcome @Hertog_von_Berkshire. One can't be blamed for not knowing what they don't know, especially when the whole industry relentlessly chants over oiling and degreasing. I had to look up what Jizer was. I still eat too much good food, but it does help me hold my wheels on my lap! So sorry I haven't responded sooner. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested.
Very interesting, but isn’t PTFE bad for the environment?
What is not bad for the environment?
Yes, PTFE is bad for the environment. Over oiling a drivetrain with anything (GT85 included) and then using degreasers and over oiling again is worse. The grime from over oiling and wearing the drivetrain away quicker is less environmentally sound just on it's own. There really isn't much about riding a bike that is good for the environment...
@@bicycleguruavoids your car, which is worse
Excellent video Ash. Reminds me of the training session and an excellent refresher for me. Good luck with the Lurpak
Thanks Rick... glad it gave you a little reminder. Have you seen the latest video about cleaning and lubing your chain on the bike to prevent mucky build up? Still trying to get the Lurpak out of my hair...
I do exactly what you have done, only missing the Gt85.
I have never splashed my bike with a jet. And it's as fast as it can get 55 on a flat.
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @luzzyrogue8617. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. You say you do the same as I do... what product do use rather than GT85? Good on you... so many people clean their bikes like a bull in a China shop.
@@bicycleguru I use something from Loctite. It's green on the outside so I believe to be Bio.
Have you tried Bunnox or Balistol, they are natural and good for the environment afaik!?
Thank you.
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @erhan6095. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. You are very welcome and thanks for letting me know.
Why do you cut off the gear cable? Most of the time, the cable end cap is easily removable if you just push on it from the sides with flat nose pliers. And then install a new cap afterwards. Also, I found that an easy way of cleaning the insides of the chain is using air from a compressor. I do it while holding a rag under and running the blow gun over the chain. Muck flies right off. P.S. Lurpak, go Denmark ;)
thx for the tips
Great video and now have a good reason for not cleaning my bike more than once a year!
Right on 👍
As I said before it's best to talk to someone who actually works on the equipment like yourself. Many thanks. Got myself a Pedro's chain checker and some of your GT85 which is hard to get in Australia. Ready to clean and check chain periodically. Just put a new 10 speed Cassette and chain on my Giant Dirt 2 2018 ebike. How often should you clean ?.
Graeme in Australia
So sorry I haven't responded sooner @graemer66. You can read why on the channel's community tab if you are interested. One of my life rules is to always ask an expert. You are very welcome and glad you got benefit from the video. This is where I bought GT85 from the last couple of times I was back home in Australia... au.rs-online.com/web/p/lubricants/8952306 It has become quite apparent that GT85 global availability has been massively reduced since WD40 acquired the company.
In answer to your question, little and often. I have recently put a video up showing how I do this on my own bikes reducing the frequency of having to do a full on deep clean.
GT 85 not available in the US. Alternatives?
I am yet to get deeper into this, but will at some point. A tester of all things oily to clean chains with globally or something like that. When WD40 bought GT85 circa 10 years ago they massively reduced where it could be bought internationally. Last coupla times I was home in Oz, I bought from a company called RS Components. They are a UK company and it was shipped there through their network.
One of the things I want to try cause it is what I used when I was racing at home is Tri-Flow which I think is readily available in the US, Try it and let me know how you get on if GT85 is unavailable...
@@bicycleguru I already use spray Triflow and it thicker than GT85. I am going to try Muc-Off MO94.
Using Muc Off MO 94 now and it appears to be a good replacement for GT85
That escalated quickly from a chain clean!
I have a couple of videos that are for quick chain cleaning to stop it escalating to a full on clean like this one...
Only wash your hair when it squeaks- great videos
Haha... very funny! Glad you like them
Your hair maybe worn out from using that Fairy & Lurpak combo. 😅
It's definitely on the list of culprits 😂
O7