Spurgeon and Hyper-Calvinism Special Guest Phil Johnson
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2021
- By Phil Johnson, Pastor | May 23, 2021 | Special Guest | Adult Sunday School
Description: History teaches us that hyper-Calvinism is as much a threat to true Calvinism as Arminianism is. Virtually every revival of true Calvinism since the Puritan era has been hijacked, crippled, or ultimately killed by hyper-Calvinist influences. Modern Calvinists would do well to be on guard against the influence of these deadly trends.
A Primer on Hyper-Calvinism: www.romans45.org/articles/hype...
Questions Asked:
1. What were the biggest theological issues that Spurgeon had to face in
his time? Are we still fighting those battles?
If Spurgeon were alive today, what would he see as the greatest threats to
the purity of the evangelical church worldwide?
2. What is the biggest threat facing the church today?
3. What is the most pressing need of the church?
4. What is a hyper-Calvinist?
What is the duty-faith controversy, and how was it resolved?
How do we, as committed Calvinists, avoid the hyper-Calvinist ditch?
5. Would you describe an Arminian pastor as a false teacher? Where do
you draw the line between orthodoxy and heresy
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This was a great presentation! Thank you for sharing this! A great message!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you Kootenai Church for another great video! Thank you Phil Johnson!
You are most welcome, it was awesome having him as a special guest for this conference.
You can find more from this faithful brother at: www.gracechurch.org/leader/johnson/phil
Hyper-Calvinists are simply Calvinists who take Calvinist principles to their logical conclusion. Which doesn't mean they're right (I don't think they are), but that they are at least intellectually consistent.
When you are standing on the Word of God, it's easy to be intellectually consistent.
False. Hyper-Calvinists are NOT consistent at all.
It's the result of not understanding how 'responsibility' is established.
It's also a failure to understand that the Gospel Proper is NEVER, EVER imperative (command).
Rather, it is indicative.
The command to 'repent and believe the Gospel' is not the Gospel itself.
Yet, it's a universal command anyways, even to the reprobate...they are all commanded to believe the Gospel; but the command to believe it is not the Gospel itself.
See the problems?
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Yes...at least there honest. It's uncomfortable being a Calvinist, with the ramifications.
Im sorry, but this is ridiculous and blatant obfuscation - 5 types of hyper calvinism, alongside just standard calvinism..
This skirts around the issue and point, pointing at those hyper ones over yonder.. no, the hyper calvinist is just someone who doesn't deny the logical implications of the formula.
Election to salvation, as a belief, ordained and decreed by God, is the issue.
If you believe God sovereignly decrees who can come and who cannot come, then there it is.
Always edified by his teaching. Thank you Phil.
Boomer Sonner!
Glad you were able to attend!
Thank you for the discussion! The NRC is a hyper - Calvinist denom. Glad I'm in the OPC!
Glad you found the his teaching helpful!
Excellent. ❤
I completely agree. :)
Hyper-Calvinists are the only consistent Calvinists and have my respect as interlocutors.
Interlocutors - a person who takes part in a dialogue or conversation.
Agree hyper-Calvinist = consistent Calvinist
A calvinist can only be a hyper calvinist.. if your not, your only seeing the parts you want to see and disregarding the reverse implications.
James White is a Calvinist who is atleast consistent, transparent and honest.. about calvinism
Thanks for posting the conference. I intended on going, but it sold out quickly. There's a lot of empty seats there, fellas. 🤔
Not sure why your posting this on a conference that happened May 23, 2021. That said, it was a great conference and glad your able to watch it online years after it happened. Hopefully you'll sign up now for the 2023 Equipping Conference with Costi Hinn kootenaichurch.org/events/2023-equipping-conference-with-costi-hinn/
Christ died for all sufficiently
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ, just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him in love, by predestining us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, which He graciously bestowed on us in the Beloved. read.lsbible.org/?q=Ephesians+1%3A3-6
I accept John's point that Calvinism leads invariably to hyper-Calvinism. Historically, he is is correct. But is this because of the fact that most Calvinists have been unwilling to follow Calvinism to it's logical conclusions? I think that is the point he is begging. I have concluded that if the Calvinists are right then the logic of the system will lead them to hyper-Calvinism, but most are unwilling to go that far. I appreciate this, but this of a testimony to the morality of these Calvinists who refuse to follow their teaching to their logical conclusions. At some point they realize that if I continue down this road I will be calling the goodness of God into question, and I cannot do this. But the principle of reductio ad absurdum is that if my logic leads to an absurd conclusion did not become absurd by following it to absurdity. It was absurd in the beginning and following the idea to its logical conclusion mere demonstrates its absurdity.
For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe. - 1 Corinthians 1:21 NASB
www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+1%3A21&version=NASB
Amen... 🎯... No matter how it is 'massaged'...if Calvinism is correct... "Hyper-Calvinism" is inevitable. It's ugly... but cannot be avoided when honestly embracing the doctrine. The real "mystery" is how so many who embrace TULIP are unwilling to accept this fact. It's like trying to get my Beagle to look me in the eye. Whenever one is forced to defend the character of the God they worship from the claims of their own doctrine... they should probably reexamine their 'doctrine'... or the God it defines. These conversations always end the same way. "You just don't understand Calvinism"... even when faced with quotes from John Calvin himself... AND... misusing "Who are you to question God"... when it's really only Calvinism in question. Calvinists are not a monolithic bunch... but they are consistent in their inability to accept that anyone ever rejects Calvinism because they "DO" understand it.😎
No honest Calvinist can look themselves in the mirror and profess with confidence they are truly .. most certainly... positively "elect" as Calvinism defines it. Nobody can ever know for certain they will receive the necessary "Gift" of Grace which Augustine described as "P"erseverance on this side of the grassy knoll. There are many respected 'former' Calvinists who thought they were 'elect' only to fall away and even deny Christ... which is only possible within the confines of TULIP... by the unchangeable decree of God. After accepting God does this to some... no one can ever know for certain he has not planned to do it to you. Consequently, they are worshiping a God who cannot be trusted to 'truly ' love anybody. ... And THAT is exactly the proposition of the Serpent to Eve in the Garden... no coincidence, IMO.
That was phenomenal thank you! I live just south of you in Boise. Any churches you guys would recommend here in the valley? Any that have guests of this caliber that visit?
I asked our elders for recommendations for you and here is their response:
The Master's Seminary Church Finder. Select 83701 Zip Code and within 50 miles. 10 Churches show up.
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@@KootenaiChurch Thank you
Wait a minute... in the beginning of his presentation, Johnson said that hypercalvinism is recognized in those who say that "the gospel is a command," and then at 14:12, he himself says that "they are commanded to believe..." So is Johnson a hypercalvinist by his own definition?
Now after John was taken into custody, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” (Mark 1:14-15 NASB)
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%201:14-15&version=NASB
That's a command.
@@KootenaiChurch
Yes, I know that, but Johnson said that hypercalvinists say that the gospel is a command.
But that's not all he said. Listen to the presentation, all of it.
@@palmettohorn
I did listen to his whole presentation, and he flubbed this one.
@@lawrencestanley8989 Swing and a miss. Lol.
Would beheading opposition be an extreme Hyper Calvinist? John Calvin in Geneva had many burned at the stake, drowned, or beheaded.
A single witness shall not rise up against a man on account of any iniquity or any sin which he has committed; at the mouth of two or three witnesses a matter shall be established. - Deuteronomy 19:15 read.lsbible.org/?q=Deuteronomy+19%3A15
I think he explained the Gospel without using the words Good News or Born Again. Kind of strange to me. I am put off by intellectuals. High I.Q. problem I think.
Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel."
Revelation 3:19
Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline.
Those whom I love, I rebuke and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent. (Revelation 3:19 NASB)
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%203:19&version=NASB
@@KootenaiChurch I’m pretty sure you guys believe in sovereign election too. That repentance would be God given and that seal comes from the Holy Spirit empowering us. The Lord calls those who will be saved and distinguishes those whom He loves from the rest.
Hebrews 12:5-6
5And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons:
“My son, do not despise the [c]chastening of the Lord,
Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;
6For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”
Hyper Calvinism is the logical end of Calvinism. If Phil was consistent with his beliefs he would have to be a Hyper Calvinist.
Dr. Phil Johnson is consistent with the Word of God.
Phil Johnson accused Gordon H. Clark of 'teetering on Hyper-Calvinism'....that's just a fallacious statement!
Gordon H. Clark held to the Westminster standards, and was faithful to them his whole life.
It's borderline slander to call him a 'Hyper-Calvinist'.
FALLA'CIOUS, adjective 1. Deceptive; deceiving; deceitful; wearing a false appearance; misleading; producing error or mistake; sophistical; applied to things only; as a fallacious argument or proposition; a fallacious appearance.
To accuse Phil Johnson of such is not slander because it's just your opinion.
But I tell you that every careless word that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. read.lsbible.org/?q=Matthew+12%3A36
There's a lot of confusion, here.
Definitions of terms are not given (eg. 'responsibility' and its proper prerequisite).
Another example, the PRC, because they deny the "3 Points of Common Grace" as outlined by the Synod of Kalamazoo (1924) does NOT make them "Hyper-Calvinists"!
There may be other issues that make them Hyper-Calvinists, but that ain't one of 'em.
Speaking of PRC and Kalamazoo doesn't add any clarity either. But here is something that is sure to bring clarity. Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." Even further clarity available at: read.lsbible.org/?q=John+1
I didn't just speak of the Synod of Kalamazoo, either!
I SPECIFICALLY spoke of their DENIAL of the "3 Points of Common Grace," as they were written by the Synod and the verbiage they used.
And, the fact that that SPECIFICALLY doesn't make them "hyper Calvinists".
Get what I'm sayin'?
*Soli Deo Gloria* @@KootenaiChurch
Sorry, wasn't clear to me what you were meaning. Thankful the Gospel is very clear.
solus Christus @ryangallmeier6647
I have noticed that high/hyper Calvinists and hypo-Calvinists (3-4 point where I would fall in) too tend to be sounder and more consistent in their affirmation of justification by faith alone than what has become mainline systematic Calvinism. This cuts into the Lordship/Free Grace debate with those who are Calvinist on the Free Grace side mostly being hypos or high/hypers.Seems to centre around preferring preservation to perseverance of the saints.Not many these days would follow the more mainline 5 point Calvinism of the Marrow Men that comes close to what hypos hold. The hypos are largely dispensational and the high/hypers covenantal.
I have noticed that we all need to be focused more on the Gospel Message. Gospel means good news! The bad news is we have all sinned and deserve the wrath to come. But Jesus the Messiah died for our sins, was buried, and then raised on the third day, according to the scriptures. He ascended into heaven and right now is seated at the Father's right hand. Jesus said, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel." If you would like to know more about the Gospel, the Book of John is a great place to start: read.lsbible.org/?q=John+1
@KootenaiChurch
I wholly agree with all that you have said and am one who is actively involved in spreading the Gospel, preaching in the open air and directing people to read the Gospel of John, of which I'm offering and distributing many copies of and glad to say I've been constlantly having to order more in. I've been born again through believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and what He accomplished on the Cross for me and take the Great Commission seriously. Much blessing to you.
It amazes me the amount of cognitive dissidents it takes to explain the logical conclusions of believing the heresy of TULIP. The god of Calvinism in a controlling, angry monster, designing most to hell. Thank you God I'm out of this cult.
Total Depravity - Ephesians 2:1-3 "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience-among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind."
Unconditional Election - Romans 9:15-16 "For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.' So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy."
Limited Atonement - John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep."
Irresistible Grace - John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day."
Perseverance of the Saints - Philippians 1:6 "And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ."
How can a lecturer not know when "Hyper-Calvinism" became a term (33:10)? So, this lecturer is a non-expert, since the development of that terms is key to the development of Hyper-Calvinism. The answer to that is in a whole chapter later in Toon's book (The Emergence of Hyper-Calvinism, 2011, Wipf and Stock publishers). It's easy to reject Hyper-Calvinism if you focus on theologians (men), not Scripture (GOD), as this lecture does. But not if you read Scripture. Lectures like this only can be given if one ignores significant parts of Scripture (see my other comment).
Suggest you go direct with Dr. Phil Johnson - twitter.com/Phil_Johnson_
@@KootenaiChurch Thank you
So much contradiction! the "well ment offer" what is that?? If Jesus onley died for the sheep then the gospel is not for everyone so the well ment offer is not true. Im very disapointed at Phil i this man contradicts his own position. Hyper calvinism negletcs evangelism , thats all it means . Evangelism is onley to call the sheep not the goats , the goats dont belong Jesus did not die for them so forget the well ment offer thats a lie
By Phil Johnson, Pastor - History teaches us that hyper-Calvinism is as much a threat to true Calvinism as Arminianism is. Virtually every revival of true Calvinism since the Puritan era has been hijacked, crippled, or ultimately killed by hyper-Calvinist influences. Modern Calvinists would do well to be on guard against the influence of these deadly trends.
A Primer on Hyper-Calvinism: www.romans45.org/articles/hypercal.htm
John 6:44 NASB - No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%206:44&version=NASB
@@KootenaiChurch Where is the word responsibility in the Bible? What is the Greek word for responsibility?
@@aletheia8054 choose, obey, return, believe, repent...
@@huntsman528 Those are English words
@@aletheia8054 they translate from greek,, lol
Phil wrong on number 3
Phil is the executive director of Grace to You. He has been closely associated with John MacArthur since 1981 and edits most of Pastor MacArthur’s major books. Phil also founded several popular websites, including The Spurgeon Archive, The Hall of Church History, and the Pyromaniacs blog. He is an ordained elder and pastor at Grace Community Church. Phil and his wife, Darlene, have three adult children and seven grandchildren. More information available at: www.gracechurch.org/leader/johnson/phil
Really disappointed. Phil Johnson hasn’t changed at all since he wrote his original article on what he considers to be “hyper Calvinism”. His arguments have been responded to many times (especially in the British Reformed Journal) and it seems that he hasn’t considered those responses to his views.
Johnson is way off here.
Yes, we are well aware that Phil Johnson has been very consistent in his biblically solid stances on multiple issues, and we are Really thankful.
@@KootenaiChurch
Denial of common grace or of a desire of God to save all men isn’t hyper-Calvinism.
We have quotes from well-established and well-respected men in church history who didn’t hold to those views but were never challenged on them.
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What is your opinion on the particular quotes above? Hyper-Calvinism?
What is the point of discussing this from the pulpit?
There are so many fallible definitions of Christian belief groups, this just perpetuates the confusion. Factually we are unified in the identify of Christ alone, but further labeling only promotes division. Stop with the wrangling of words. Focus. Preach the Word and sound doctrine.
Realize and lead others that the Bible is written from man's point of view but is only understood from God's.
The Bible is written under the inspiration of God to be understood by man.
All Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be equipped, having been thoroughly equipped for every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
read.lsbible.org/?q=2+Timothy+3%3A16-17
Know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes by one’s own interpretation. For no prophecy was ever made by the will of man, but men being moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. (2 Peter 1:20-21)
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Why don't you cite any verses to back up the anti-Hyper-Calvinist claims? Where are the verses that command sinners to believe? Mark 4.12 contradicts that, and is a pure Hyper-Calvinist verse. I was surprised how in your lecture, you talk a lot about theologians, but verses are not being quoted. The words of men are lies (Ps 116.11, Rom 3.4), so we need to rely on Scripture, not men, and Scripture is Hyper-Calvinist. Your lecture is Arminian, you place responsibility on humans (25:10), wherein GOD would not be all-powerful. Very simple. Only Hyper-Calvinism respects GOD's fully sovereignty. Free will is heresy and works-based Arminianism.
And He was saying to them, “To you has been given the mystery of the kingdom of God, but to those who are outside, everything comes in parables, so that while seeing, they may see and not perceive, and while hearing, they may hear and not understand, lest they return and be forgiven.” read.lsbible.org/?q=mark+4%3A11-12
Yes the Calvinist god is merciful by punishing by torture those he forced to commit the very sins he came up with! Good job Baucham Sproul, Calvin, MacArthur, Washer, Piper. No wonder millions flock to the merciful Calvin god!
The real God of Creation said this of His love for all man and the Created Universe.
Psalms 145:9 The Lord is good to ALL; he has compassion on ALL he has made.
Little different from the evil cruel god of calvinism isn't it?
The real Jesus said in John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
1 Timothy 2 : 3-6 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
Calvinist god followers say that their god blinds the eyes of the Non-elect so they cannot see or understand the gospel. Yet it is they who have been blinded by Satan. Satan has blinded the eyes of those who are perishing. Satan leads the whole World astray.
Nothing makes people hate God faster than Calvinism.
Nothing turns people into Atheists faster than Calvinism!
Nothing kills hope and love faster than Calvinism!
Yet they are wise in their own eyes and lost in their souls and hearts.They gather around themselves those who speak the same lie!
Wake up and turn to God who loves you . "Repent and be Baptized before your life is spent and there is no more hope for you!
This can be the day of your salvation.
In Love!
Truth, you don’t understand. Man is blind by his own condition and rebellion. Be careful what you are attacking. The straw man tactics of your presentation, cause a false fight and argumentation over things that calvinists don’t actually believe.
To link calvinists with Satan is a wee bit extreme to say the least, I think it’s you sir that should repent and research the scriptures better.
I would suggest you read carefully through John’s Gospel. Lay aside your pre-conceived biases, and heed what Jesus is saying.
@@brianroads3694 Hi Brian Hello.
Almost everything that I know was told or taught to me by Calvinists and John Calvins writings. So I don't know were the problems is.
John Calvin is the first source and after all he is the one Calvism is based on and elevated to the founder of it. So here is one of his published statements.
“thieves and murderers, and other evildoers, are instruments of divine providence, being employed by the Lord himself to execute judgments which he has resolved to inflict.” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 5)
“The devil, and the whole train of the ungodly, are in all directions, held in by the hand of God as with a bridle, so that they can neither conceive any mischief, nor plan what they have conceived, nor how muchsoever they may have planned, move a single finger to perpetrate, unless in so far as he permits, nay unless in so far as he commands, that they are not only bound by his fetters but are even forced to do him service” (John Calvin, Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 1, Chapter 17, Paragraph 11)
Looks pretty clear that god thinks up evil and forces humans to carry it out!
Eternal torment is derived from the word torture. Augustine whom John Calvin repackaged as Calvinism was the one who started the Roman Catholic Church and brought in infant baptism and the idea that god tortures people in hell day and night.
John Piper is one of the greatest Calvinistic Reformed teachers today. I don't think you would deny that, its pretty well known. Listen to his statement on his website, quote:
"God . . . brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes-as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem-God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child . . .
Once again a its pretty clear. god gassed the Jews and sends people to rape children! Its all above I didn't make it up!
god then condemns them to the hell for eternal torment for something god forced them to do.
Sorry to bring this to you if you didn't know, but it is in the public record.
Calvinsim is a bad news gospel, a doctrine of demons that the Bible says were coming in the world in the end times. I am just try to help people understand how dangerous John Calvins god is.
One more thing from John Calvin
God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction.( John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6)
Pretty warped and twisted this Calvinst stuff! Run while you still have eyes to see.
Genesis 50:19-20 NASB
But Joseph said to them, “Do not be afraid, for am I in God’s place? As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good in order to bring about this present result, to keep many people alive.
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2050:19-20&version=NASB
Micah 2:3 NASB
Therefore this is what the Lord says: “Behold, I am planning against this family a catastrophe From which you cannot remove your necks; And you will not walk haughtily, For it will be an evil time.
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah%202:3&version=NASB
Mark 9:47-48 NASB
And if your eye is causing you to sin, throw it away; it is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, than, having two eyes, to be thrown into hell, where their worm does not die, and the fire is not extinguished.
URL: www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark%209:47-48&version=NASB
@@pinarellosq2868 Your Calvinist training has prepared you to refute any and all Truth that comes at the Reformed CULT.
Irenaeus of Lyons, 120-202 AD
The Apostle John had a disciple named Polycarp, and Polycarp had a disciple named Irenaeus.
Below from (Irenaeus, Against Heresies, book 4, chapter 37, paragraphs 1 - 7)
1. This expression [of our Lord], ‘How often would I have gathered thy children together, and thou wouldest not,’ set forth the ancient law of human liberty, because God made man a free [agent] from the beginning, possessing his own power, even as he does his own soul, to obey the behests (ad utendum sententia) of God voluntarily, and not by compulsion of God. For there is no coercion with God, but a good will [towards us] is present with Him continually. And therefore does He give good counsel to all. And in man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice (for angels are rational beings), so that those who had yielded obedience might justly possess what is good, given indeed by God, but preserved by themselves. On the other hand, they who have not obeyed shall, with justice, be not found in possession of the good, and shall receive condign punishment: for God did kindly bestow on them what was good; but they themselves did not diligently keep it, nor deem it something precious, but poured contempt upon His super-eminent goodness. Rejecting therefore the good, and as it were spewing it out, they shall all deservedly incur the just judgment of God, which also the Apostle Paul testifies in his Epistle to the Romans, where he says, ‘But dost thou despise the riches of His goodness, and patience, and long-suffering, being ignorant that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? But according to thy hardness and impenitent heart, thou treasurest to thyself wrath against the day of wrath, and the revelation of the righteous judgment of God.’ ‘But glory and honour,’ he says, ‘to every one that doeth good.’ God therefore has given that which is good, as the apostle tells us in this Epistle, and they who work it shall receive glory and honour, because they have done that which is good when they had it in their power not to do it; but those who do it not shall receive the just judgment of God, because they did not work good when they had it in their power so to do.
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@Heart & Soul You are speaking from mans intellectual skills. I speak from the leading of the Holy Spirit against the evil system you are defending.
God loves mankind, Satan hates mankind. Calvinism and its Reformed Theology is designed to pervert God's love for mankind and HINDER those who are coming to Jesus!
True I have a BURNING HATRED for any religious system that comes between God and the object of His love, Mankind!
Many people as little children are coming to God and the Calvinists are right there to hinder them from coming.
Calvinists are puffed up in pride and condescending in their preaching of their lies ! You are a advanced example of that!
I have no hope of convincing you, but many will read my words and be warned of the dangers and that is my purpose.
Matthew 23: 15-16 15Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You traverse land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 16Woe to you, blind guides!
Don't you notice that they are not attacks but a warning to your victims. You describe satan's character and apply that to God! You are kicking at the Holyness of God in the name of a man! John Calvin and his poison TULIP
People can read and have common sense. They can see what Calvinism is and what Christianity is.
Christianity = This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. 1 Timothy 2 : 3-6
Fake Christianity ( Reformed Calvinism) = God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction. John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6
No active cult member knows he is in a Cult! Wake up!
TRUTH IN LOVE