@@BingoNamo-gb8pz..it is not forced upon you regardless…..when you are called by God and receive the imputed righteousness of Christ it is an irresistibly joyful moment,escaping from the bondage of sin.
As Whitefield once said: "Let the name Whitefield parish, so long as God is glorified". God may you fill us with your Holy Spirit and humble us in the same way in our ministries and churches today - so that you are the centre of attention and so that your name may be glorified now and forever. Amen
I do not believe that any true servant of Jesus Christ is purely "Calvinist" or "Arminian". Have any of them actually claimed allegiance to all of writing and beliefs of either system?
"a convert to calvinism" says MLJ @28:23m is the clarity of the error of this dear and Godly man. Listen to his message of 'false teachings' and one can see his contradiction in being 'a calvinist', as opposed to a follower of Christ alone; being Christ-centered and not calvinist-centered.
It’s the heart of God, the love of God, the grace of God, Him not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. God commanding all men everywhere to repent & believe the gospel, that is the command.
Never thought i would be disappointed in anything Mr. Lloyd had to say but i am with this one. He actually said that Calvinism is illogical yet he accepts it😔. God is not the author of confusion but calvinism is confusion. 🙏📖⏳♨️
Interesting because he clearly spoke God's Word as spoken through Pete and Paul by the Holy Spirit, thank God you have it right God is not the author of confusion! God only can save ...as the Bible teachers and Calvin echoed. As MLJ truly stated but only man can do himself...repent and believe in God's gospel of truth. Both God predestined, called and saved His elect...but also man must believe. Thank God for these truths even if we can not fully grasp!!
@@davidyingling4873 Beloved surely you know that you can make the bible say anything you want if you ignore the context in which a passage is written. The judgement unto condemnation by God makes no sense if he is the one preventing the sinner from doing something about his spiritual state. Do you serve a God that predetermined from eternity past that some of his creation were more and less worth than others to be saved even before they were born😔. " It's not the will of God that any should perish... ". 😔🙏📖⏳♨️
@@truth_merchant7839 ah put that's the interesting part...we are condemned because of our sin , all of us, but those that believe are saved. 1 Cor 2: 6,8 and 9,14. How do we believe then? Only 1 answer ..1 Cor 2:10,12!! The power of the Holy Spirit has revealed it and now we can believe and be saved. Only only only God saves, anything else is another God,Jesus..until the Spirit comes we are dead spiritually...God gives us what we need to believe and be saved the rest is His Deut 29:29. Don't ever think one can save himself that is a blasphemy against the God who sent His Son to die from those who believe by the Holy Spirit and are saved. Also we are condemned by our sin, no work of God..He just judges that sin. Difficult for us to grasp two truths...God's Sovereign action and our believing. But clearly both truths are Biblical.
@@davidyingling4873 Beloved, there you go again proving my point about context. When the word "dead" is used in that context it refers to separation not an inability to respond to the gospel preached. As in the book of revelation where Christ told the Church of Sardis that they were "dead". Here is Christ is talking to believers so he is not saying to them that they can't respond to him(they already have) but rather their actions do not represent Christ and thus is separating him from them. For this reason it is written " thy sins have separated you from your God". By the way, what happens to babies who die in the womb and out the womb?
There is no "free offer" of the gospel. It is to be preached to everyone, but that does not nullify the revelation of Christ unto salvation is given and revealed only to those God has chosen to reveal Him to.
When you take a philosophy that develops from man and superimpose it on God's word you can't help but come to incoherent conclusions; very similar to what atheist say about morality (that it's illusory) simply because they refuse to believe in The God that makes knowing good from evil possible. We have no scripture that says God has chosen men for hell and others for eternity in heaven, we find that the bible calls all men to repent, that God desires that all men come to the knowledge of the truth and that He is patient not desiring that any should perish. We have a responsibility to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, and yet we have this responsibility because God has given salvation as a free gift.
5:21-5:27 Which is one of many, many reasons why Billy Graham is not & was not a doctrinally sound source of good theology. He was ecumenical to the extreme, yoked with false teachers, & his “crusades”/alter calls led to scores of false professions of faith. “Saying the sinner’s prayer” does not save anyone.
I certainly don't advocate the sinners prayer Patrick as I simply don't see it in the Scriptures. Too often, people view the act of saying such a prayer as their ground of acceptance with a Holy God rather than relying wholly and solely on Christ's death, burial and resurrection on their behalf. An easy work but still works nonetheless and not Biblical salvation. However, in some cases, it can be an expression of genuine saving faith that leads to peace and assurance and I have met a good few elderly saints who got saved at Billy Graham meetings in the 50's and still going strong all these years on.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 I do believe that some people at his past crusades did become genuinely born again, and certainly at one point or another, all individuals who have been saved said a “sinners prayer”.
@@patrickc3419 It is the believing on the Lord Jesus Christ that justifies and all believers will certainly call upon the name of the Lord after the point of justification. A prayer thanking the Lord for already having been saved by Christ's redemptive work would be a much more Biblical use of the sinners prayer. Unfortunately, within swathes of modern evangelicalism, it is viewed as virtually meritorious unto salvation. Much blessing Brother and these messages by The Doctor are just great.
@Rileyed It wasn't a formulaic 'repeat after me' one. It came from the heart and was an expression of faith that God could and would save him. It was his faith that justified him not the prayer and that example simply can't be used to justify the practice in evangelism. The publican was alone with God and not led in the prayer by a human intermediary. Salvation is a simple matter of believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and with those we witness to after making the way of salvation plain and clear, the Holy Spirit should be left to do His work in His time. Sometimes that will lead to saving faith being expressed in a prayer and in other cases, it won't and just an acceptance that Jesus died in the sinners place that is enough to justify.
Much as I like and respect MLJ.. this talk is just denominational politics filled with gross generalisations about so-called 'Armenians' .. echoes of John MacArthur..and his blinkered generalisations about all so called 'Charismatics'..
So very very sad to hear a great preacher and Christian tie himself up with his calvanist harness I thought he might have taken his own deduction of Calvin that he went to far. His evaluation of Arminianism as to being all show was unjustly wrong and disgraceful. Sad so sad. Why has God lift us ? he says! to me it is quite obvious.
@@Mike12349 So God is not love? He doesn’t love the world? He’s willing that some perish? Jesus is not the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world? God does not command all men everywhere to repent? God is a respecter of persons? God does not love his enemies but commands us to? God did not confine all men under sin that he might have mercy on them all? You mean those scriptures?
Wonderfully edifying and profitable preaching!
People who have experienced the IRRESISTIBLE GRACE and were BORN AGAIN cannot help but preach it incessantly!
Why does grace need be irresistible if it is forced upon you regardless? Why does the gospel need to be good news if not to persuade you?
@@BingoNamo-gb8pz..it is not forced upon you regardless…..when you are called by God and receive the imputed righteousness of Christ it is an irresistibly joyful moment,escaping from the bondage of sin.
As Whitefield once said: "Let the name Whitefield parish, so long as God is glorified". God may you fill us with your Holy Spirit and humble us in the same way in our ministries and churches today - so that you are the centre of attention and so that your name may be glorified now and forever. Amen
Amen
Amen..these are the teaching we need today..
Best preacher I ever heard...
Hey Super. I'm right there with ya'. We still might say that if we had heard 'em all! The Reverend Dr... Truly one of God's boys. Amen!
Beautiful intelligent preaching. Yes surely God wants us to have intelligence about doctrine and faith and salvation.
Refreshing teaching in these days x
His preaching is the best
Hey John. Agreed for sure. Along with A.W. Pink, those boys gettin' it done!
He is a great preacher endeed
He was a great preacher indeed:)
Amen, he truly was
Just wonderful.
Stirring preaching which speaks to heart & mind.
Amen
What a great sermon, full of timeless observations.
Truly eye opening
Felt
Delivery excellent
I do not believe that any true servant of Jesus Christ is purely "Calvinist" or "Arminian". Have any of them actually claimed allegiance to all of writing and beliefs of either system?
I also doubt they would stoop to turn to man's thoughts and preferences.
It's all in the scriptures, full stop.
"a convert to calvinism" says MLJ @28:23m is the clarity of the error of this dear and Godly man. Listen to his message of 'false teachings' and one can see his contradiction in being 'a calvinist', as opposed to a follower of Christ alone; being Christ-centered and not calvinist-centered.
It's a command, not an offer.
It’s the heart of God, the love of God, the grace of God, Him not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. God commanding all men everywhere to repent & believe the gospel, that is the command.
Good stuff!
Phenomenal…
Never thought i would be disappointed in anything Mr. Lloyd had to say but i am with this one. He actually said that Calvinism is illogical yet he accepts it😔. God is not the author of confusion but calvinism is confusion. 🙏📖⏳♨️
Interesting because he clearly spoke God's Word as spoken through Pete and Paul by the Holy Spirit, thank God you have it right God is not the author of confusion! God only can save ...as the Bible teachers and Calvin echoed. As MLJ truly stated but only man can do himself...repent and believe in God's gospel of truth. Both God predestined, called and saved His elect...but also man must believe. Thank God for these truths even if we can not fully grasp!!
Only man can damn himself...sorry
@@davidyingling4873 Beloved surely you know that you can make the bible say anything you want if you ignore the context in which a passage is written. The judgement unto condemnation by God makes no sense if he is the one preventing the sinner from doing something about his spiritual state. Do you serve a God that predetermined from eternity past that some of his creation were more and less worth than others to be saved even before they were born😔. " It's not the will of God that any should perish... ". 😔🙏📖⏳♨️
@@truth_merchant7839 ah put that's the interesting part...we are condemned because of our sin , all of us, but those that believe are saved. 1 Cor 2: 6,8 and 9,14. How do we believe then? Only 1 answer ..1 Cor 2:10,12!! The power of the Holy Spirit has revealed it and now we can believe and be saved. Only only only God saves, anything else is another God,Jesus..until the Spirit comes we are dead spiritually...God gives us what we need to believe and be saved the rest is His Deut 29:29. Don't ever think one can save himself that is a blasphemy against the God who sent His Son to die from those who believe by the Holy Spirit and are saved. Also we are condemned by our sin, no work of God..He just judges that sin. Difficult for us to grasp two truths...God's Sovereign action and our believing. But clearly both truths are Biblical.
@@davidyingling4873 Beloved, there you go again proving my point about context. When the word "dead" is used in that context it refers to separation not an inability to respond to the gospel preached. As in the book of revelation where Christ told the Church of Sardis that they were "dead". Here is Christ is talking to believers so he is not saying to them that they can't respond to him(they already have) but rather their actions do not represent Christ and thus is separating him from them. For this reason it is written " thy sins have separated you from your God". By the way, what happens to babies who die in the womb and out the womb?
There is no "free offer" of the gospel. It is to be preached to everyone, but that does not nullify the revelation of Christ unto salvation is given and revealed only to those God has chosen to reveal Him to.
@@braybilly is it Gods will that the Antichrist be saved? He is a MAN!
@@braybilly is it fair for God wanting all to be saved? Does that make it fair and equal for everyone?
When you take a philosophy that develops from man and superimpose it on God's word you can't help but come to incoherent conclusions; very similar to what atheist say about morality (that it's illusory) simply because they refuse to believe in The God that makes knowing good from evil possible. We have no scripture that says God has chosen men for hell and others for eternity in heaven, we find that the bible calls all men to repent, that God desires that all men come to the knowledge of the truth and that He is patient not desiring that any should perish. We have a responsibility to work out our salvation with fear and trembling, and yet we have this responsibility because God has given salvation as a free gift.
I’ve listened to 100s of MLJ sermons & never once thought he was a Calvinist. Does this only come up when he discusses evangelism?
5:21-5:27 Which is one of many, many reasons why Billy Graham is not & was not a doctrinally sound source of good theology.
He was ecumenical to the extreme, yoked with false teachers, & his “crusades”/alter calls led to scores of false professions of faith. “Saying the sinner’s prayer” does not save anyone.
I certainly don't advocate the sinners prayer Patrick as I simply don't see it in the Scriptures. Too often, people view the act of saying such a prayer as their ground of acceptance with a Holy God rather than relying wholly and solely on Christ's death, burial and resurrection on their behalf. An easy work but still works nonetheless and not Biblical salvation. However, in some cases, it can be an expression of genuine saving faith that leads to peace and assurance and I have met a good few elderly saints who got saved at Billy Graham meetings in the 50's and still going strong all these years on.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 I do believe that some people at his past crusades did become genuinely born again, and certainly at one point or another, all individuals who have been saved said a “sinners prayer”.
@@patrickc3419
It is the believing on the Lord Jesus Christ that justifies and all believers will certainly call upon the name of the Lord after the point of justification. A prayer thanking the Lord for already having been saved by Christ's redemptive work would be a much more Biblical use of the sinners prayer. Unfortunately, within swathes of modern evangelicalism, it is viewed as virtually meritorious unto salvation. Much blessing Brother and these messages by The Doctor are just great.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266read the prayer of the publican who was justified before God.
@Rileyed
It wasn't a formulaic 'repeat after me' one. It came from the heart and was an expression of faith that God could and would save him. It was his faith that justified him not the prayer and that example simply can't be used to justify the practice in evangelism. The publican was alone with God and not led in the prayer by a human intermediary. Salvation is a simple matter of believing on the Lord Jesus Christ and with those we witness to after making the way of salvation plain and clear, the Holy Spirit should be left to do His work in His time. Sometimes that will lead to saving faith being expressed in a prayer and in other cases, it won't and just an acceptance that Jesus died in the sinners place that is enough to justify.
Tears.
0412 Ebert Divide
Much as I like and respect MLJ.. this talk is just denominational politics filled with gross generalisations about so-called 'Armenians' .. echoes of John MacArthur..and his blinkered generalisations about all so called 'Charismatics'..
So very very sad to hear a great preacher and Christian tie himself up with his calvanist harness I thought he might have taken his own deduction of Calvin that he went to far. His evaluation of Arminianism as to being all show was unjustly wrong and disgraceful. Sad so sad. Why has God lift us ? he says! to me it is quite obvious.
FOG? REPENT!
Had no idea he was Calvinist . I’m out
To turn your back on calvinsm is to turn your back on biblical scripture!
@@Mike12349 So God is not love? He doesn’t love the world? He’s willing that some perish? Jesus is not the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world? God does not command all men everywhere to repent? God is a respecter of persons? God does not love his enemies but commands us to? God did not confine all men under sin that he might have mercy on them all?
You mean those scriptures?