@@David_Best take the KV8900 for example. This is a lock in/out slide that pulls into Fusion as 6 components. You have the cab, mid, drawer, latch arm, latch, and latch bumper. It's a bit more complicated to automate than a 3 part drawer slide.
Thanks for your generosity. You have the unusual ability to make it sound easy, logical, and understable. The step-by-step demonstration not only helped me achieve what I needed to do, but it also uncovered a lot of features I did not know. Thanks again.
Thank you very much for the video, it was exactly what I was looking for. I just designed a bench top drill press cabinet in fusion and wanted to insert drawer slides. Appreciate the comment about the "joints" interface. I thought it was me. I've been retired 5 years and thought it was my age. thanks again for the tutorial. Great pace.
I found, when doing the slide joints on the rails, that leaving them in the closed position and doing a sliding `as-is` joint will keep them where they are and allow the minimum to be 0 and the offset to be whatever number was measured. Seemed a bit more intuitive.
Agree. This type of joint facility where you can add motion to any type of joint (including “as built”) is relatively new in Fusion and how I would present it if I remade the video today. The new joint facility is a response to specific feedback from users such as myself. It is a huge improvement.
I just am starting to learn Fusion and this video is over my head but I still learned a lot. I do woodworking and metalwork. Hope to see more videos soon. Consider one with a design in Fusion and send to Send Cut Send for laser cutting. That is what I’m hoping to get to.
Well, as part of this Woodworking with Fusion 360, I'm unlikely to be pushing out designs to an outside metal fabrication facility like Xometry or SendCutSend. However, I do make custom metal related products for the Felder woodworking equipment, and I have such a large queue of demand that as part of that process, I will be sending out a design ( tinyurl.com/yc7z7nzj ) for rough fabrication to Xometry or another CNC manufacturing service. I hadn't considered putting that up on UA-cam, but based on your suggestion I may in fact do that.
@@chrismartinez7037 The Woodgrafter does have some good content if you like his approach to teaching Fusion (which I don't). There are lots of ways to go at woodworking project design, and The Woodgrafter expresses just one approach. I will be doing additional videos soon.
Great video!! I do have one question and it may be a setting on my version of 360. Has the grounding changed? I had the hardest time with that. If you grounded it always reverted back to original import directions and then I couldn't figure out how to move it. I worked through it, but it was a pain in my but. The video was fantastic. I have been designing a vanity for my daughter and wanted to get the slides incorporated to make sure it was all going to fit and work. Got it all done and LOVE it! THANKS!!
Yes, grounding has changed to "Pin" with the introduction of Ground to Parent. Fusion now automatically generates a "ground to parent" attachment unless you disable that feature in the settings - which I have done. I find the need "ground to parent" very obscure and difficult to know when to use it. Since I have never needed that feature before, I turned it off. More detail here - including my comment about how obscure this feature is: ua-cam.com/video/nIf112c7HFQ/v-deo.htmlsi=zS4Lp7_AnzpOgjzW
Great video. love K&V. can you do the Blum zero protrusion hinge, frameless dynamic model. That one is tough, but nobody has touched it that I have seen. They give you the cad model, but nothing else.
That looks like fun. I've only used this hinge a few times, and don't actually have one on hand. But I downloaded the Blum CAD model, and it looks like a fun project - quite the contraption. So before I tackle this and buy one of these to see the interactions, let me know if this is the specific hinge you mean: tinyurl.com/apjhmtb3
Hi, I just figure out recently how to do this. Just move the drawer face away and join it to the slide1 using "joint" command in rigid connection but before you click ok you just tweak the offset data to move the drawer face in place. And then join the slide2 and the drawer face using "as built joint" in rigid connection. Welcome. In addition. During the process of mirroring the slider to the other side. I encounter a problem that makes the rail slide on the opposite direction. Just tweak the data or just re-do the jointing
@@jeffreytomas6743 Using the "Offset" is one way to do this. How you have your model developed to the point of needing to install the slides has a lot to do with which method is best. You can always sketch some construction lines on the inside of the cabinet side, put down a "Point" and use that point as the reference for a "Joint" command that positions the slide properly. Or if you're trying to install the slide relative to the face of the drawer, you can put a "Point" or "Joint Origin" on the drawer face and use that as the reference to do the drawer slide "Joint". I generally design from the inside face of the cabinet, and do all the layout there in a sketch, that way I have reference points for drawer positions, drawer front locations, slides, face frames, inset back, and everything else. etc.
If one of you would tell me the type of cabinet you typically are designing, that would guide me on a Part 2 most appropriate to your needs. For instance, are the drawers full overlay, or inset, and if inset do you employ a face frame?
This is a great tutorial! Thank you for the thorough explanations. For some reason I can't click a rail and make it move (it will move in the "Edit motion limits" dialog). Is there a setting that needs to be tweaked?
David, when you "import into current design" and attach to a "wall", your drawer slide still animates. When I do it, I have to add the ground on the cabinet rail again other wise all 3 rails move as a group. Is re-grounding the cabinet rail once it is imported something you did, but didn't show? Or am I hitting a limit on the free version? Or doing some other newbie thing wrong!
@@janodi1155How did you "attach" the slide to the "wall" of your cabinet? In my example, I used a RIGID joint command to anchor the cabinet rail to the wall of the cabinet. I used a point on the face of the cab rail component (middle front position of the face that will become flat against the cabinet wall) as the "from" and used the point I created in the sketch as the "to" position for the joint. Assuming the cabinet side (wall) is grounded in space, the cab rail should be anchored to the cabinet wall, and you shouldn't have to ground it again. My guess is a) either your cabinet side (wall) is not grounded, or b) you specified the wrong "from" point (called "joint origin") on the cab rail for the joint. I recommend you watch Tyler's video here: ua-cam.com/video/WRhM0815g4M/v-deo.html
Thank you very much for the awesome video. I enjoyed the slow talking! Can I ask how you then add the drawers? I understand placing the slides on the cabinet, but how do I attach the drawers so that they are attached to the slide and move with the slide?
I'll be doing a new series of videos that address your question. But the simple answer is to position the drawer boxes accurately using the move/align command, then establish an as-built joint between the drawer side and the slide element that attaches to the drawer.
Was hoping you had started the new series after finding this video. I was unsuccessful attaching the drawer to to slides after alignment using the "as built joint" but I got it to work just but creating a ridgid group with just the drawer rail and the drawer itself. Not sure if they're any cons to doing it that way but works for me.
Hi David, thanks for this excellent video! Really hope you will do more of these in the future. Just one general question: what do you use to orbit around your object? Is that some kind of a 3D controller? Sorry, I am still kind of new to these CAD tools, even though I did a lot of projects in fusion already
My next video goes into this in some detail, but the short answer is that I use a 3DConnexion SpaceMouse. 3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/
@@VincentSchmidts Sorry that wasn't the response you'd hoped for. Why the disappointment? It's the best $150 I've spent the past 5 years on a piece of gear for my computer.
thank you for the great videos. i have a couple questions you might be able to answer. can you mirror the slides in their file and apply a parameter for sizing to an opening? and can you associate the system holes needed for mounting the slides into that model? bringing them into the cabinet model as a pair, apply them to cabinet openings instead of applying to the cab side, while also locating the system holes for boring in the sides? i run a production cabinet shop and do mostly 2d cad, sketchup. currently i just layout the system hole pattern and dont bother modeling the hardware. however, if we can get the slides and system holes dropped into a model at the same time that would be useful for us, allowing us to see possible conflicts with plumbing/lighting. we are looking to go to cnc fabrication, and are thinking about new software to accomplish our designs. we use a lot of cabinet package software but frankly, it becomes too much of a coding exercise for non-standard custom cabinets. fusion seems ideal for our design needs, but i am just beginning to learn how to organize everything. your videos are excellent. clear, concise, and thorough. no worries if you arent interested in answering questions, i get it.
can you mirror the slides in their file and apply a parameter for sizing to an opening? Yes, if you set it up properly. I assume you are using some standard hole spacing - something like the Eurobox 32mm standard? And all the slides are positioned to a 32mm spacing standard. If that's so, I will do another video on exactly how to do this. But basically, for each drawer slide master model, you would include with the model the drilling template as a component, and once that's imported and positioned, you use the drilling template component to "cut out" the holes in the cabinet sides using the Fusion "Combine" command. That "drilling template" could be nothing more than a collection of cylinders that represent the holes to be drilled, and you could have as many rows as you'd like spaced however you'd like. The Fusion "Combine" command is badly named - it's basically a boolean function where you can use one component as a "tool" and perform an add or subtract operation with a second component, and you can either eliminate the tool in the process, or retain the tool. Let me know if you'd like to see a video on this.
I'm fully aware. Lots has changed in Fusion since I did this video 2 years ago. Based on feedback from insiders like me and others, lots has improved - especially the joint command and setting joint limits.
@@TROYOSTRANDER Ah, glad it was useful to you. More coming. But Fusion has generalized the joint command so that travel method and limits can now all be set in a single operation. The technique is the same but no longer requires so many steps if you want to put it all into one joint operation.
As a self taught Fusion 360 user. This video was all I need to automate drawer slides in a project I'm doing.
I'm glad. I'm working on Part 2 that will cover undermount drawer slides like Blum, Grass, Hafle, etc.
@@David_Best would be nice to see something with a lock in/out, and putting a drawer in motion.
@@mikestudt7551 I don't know what you mean.
@@David_Best take the KV8900 for example. This is a lock in/out slide that pulls into Fusion as 6 components. You have the cab, mid, drawer, latch arm, latch, and latch bumper. It's a bit more complicated to automate than a 3 part drawer slide.
@@mikestudt7551 Got it. Piece of cake. I'm off to Australia on holiday for the remainder of August, but have this on my to-do list for when I return.
Thanks for your generosity. You have the unusual ability to make it sound easy, logical, and understable. The step-by-step demonstration not only helped me achieve what I needed to do, but it also uncovered a lot of features I did not know. Thanks again.
David, fantastic demonstration, thank you!
Thank you very much for the video, it was exactly what I was looking for. I just designed a bench top drill press cabinet in fusion and wanted to insert drawer slides. Appreciate the comment about the "joints" interface. I thought it was me. I've been retired 5 years and thought it was my age. thanks again for the tutorial. Great pace.
Fantastic tutorial, thanks for keeping it slow, really helps us “new to Fusion”.
Thank you for this video. Exactly what I was looking for. Instruction was at the correct pace.
Thank you for your detailed video. It helped me alot unlike others. Thanks
Glad it helped. Stay tuned - I continue to work on others.
Excellent job. Need to have a lot of experience to be where you are. I hope to be there some day.
Excelente David!😇
Awesome!!!
I found, when doing the slide joints on the rails, that leaving them in the closed position and doing a sliding `as-is` joint will keep them where they are and allow the minimum to be 0 and the offset to be whatever number was measured. Seemed a bit more intuitive.
Agree. This type of joint facility where you can add motion to any type of joint (including “as built”) is relatively new in Fusion and how I would present it if I remade the video today. The new joint facility is a response to specific feedback from users such as myself. It is a huge improvement.
I just am starting to learn Fusion and this video is over my head but I still learned a lot. I do woodworking and metalwork. Hope to see more videos soon. Consider one with a design in Fusion and send to Send Cut Send for laser cutting. That is what I’m hoping to get to.
Well, as part of this Woodworking with Fusion 360, I'm unlikely to be pushing out designs to an outside metal fabrication facility like Xometry or SendCutSend. However, I do make custom metal related products for the Felder woodworking equipment, and I have such a large queue of demand that as part of that process, I will be sending out a design ( tinyurl.com/yc7z7nzj ) for rough fabrication to Xometry or another CNC manufacturing service. I hadn't considered putting that up on UA-cam, but based on your suggestion I may in fact do that.
You should check out The Woodgrafter he does a whole 15 part lesson on fusion it's how I learned the program
@@chrismartinez7037 The Woodgrafter does have some good content if you like his approach to teaching Fusion (which I don't). There are lots of ways to go at woodworking project design, and The Woodgrafter expresses just one approach. I will be doing additional videos soon.
Great video!! I do have one question and it may be a setting on my version of 360. Has the grounding changed? I had the hardest time with that. If you grounded it always reverted back to original import directions and then I couldn't figure out how to move it. I worked through it, but it was a pain in my but. The video was fantastic. I have been designing a vanity for my daughter and wanted to get the slides incorporated to make sure it was all going to fit and work. Got it all done and LOVE it! THANKS!!
Yes, grounding has changed to "Pin" with the introduction of Ground to Parent. Fusion now automatically generates a "ground to parent" attachment unless you disable that feature in the settings - which I have done. I find the need "ground to parent" very obscure and difficult to know when to use it. Since I have never needed that feature before, I turned it off. More detail here - including my comment about how obscure this feature is: ua-cam.com/video/nIf112c7HFQ/v-deo.htmlsi=zS4Lp7_AnzpOgjzW
Great video. love K&V. can you do the Blum zero protrusion hinge, frameless dynamic model. That one is tough, but nobody has touched it that I have seen. They give you the cad model, but nothing else.
That looks like fun. I've only used this hinge a few times, and don't actually have one on hand. But I downloaded the Blum CAD model, and it looks like a fun project - quite the contraption. So before I tackle this and buy one of these to see the interactions, let me know if this is the specific hinge you mean: tinyurl.com/apjhmtb3
Fantastic. Thorough and very helpful. Where's part two? I'm having a heck of a time getting the drawer face to interact with two sliders.
I'll be doing a new complete series on cabinet building with Fusion 360 using these (and undermount) slides. Stay tuned.
Hi, I just figure out recently how to do this. Just move the drawer face away and join it to the slide1 using "joint" command in rigid connection but before you click ok you just tweak the offset data to move the drawer face in place. And then join the slide2 and the drawer face using "as built joint" in rigid connection. Welcome.
In addition. During the process of mirroring the slider to the other side. I encounter a problem that makes the rail slide on the opposite direction. Just tweak the data or just re-do the jointing
@@jeffreytomas6743 Using the "Offset" is one way to do this. How you have your model developed to the point of needing to install the slides has a lot to do with which method is best. You can always sketch some construction lines on the inside of the cabinet side, put down a "Point" and use that point as the reference for a "Joint" command that positions the slide properly. Or if you're trying to install the slide relative to the face of the drawer, you can put a "Point" or "Joint Origin" on the drawer face and use that as the reference to do the drawer slide "Joint". I generally design from the inside face of the cabinet, and do all the layout there in a sketch, that way I have reference points for drawer positions, drawer front locations, slides, face frames, inset back, and everything else. etc.
@@jeffreytomas6743 And the best way to position the opposite slide is to mirror it around the mid-plane of the cabinet.
If one of you would tell me the type of cabinet you typically are designing, that would guide me on a Part 2 most appropriate to your needs. For instance, are the drawers full overlay, or inset, and if inset do you employ a face frame?
This is a great tutorial! Thank you for the thorough explanations. For some reason I can't click a rail and make it move (it will move in the "Edit motion limits" dialog). Is there a setting that needs to be tweaked?
I figured it out. I hadn't grounded the cabinet rail. This is going to be great!
@@janodi1155I was just going to ask if you had one of the components grounded. WTG !!!
David, when you "import into current design" and attach to a "wall", your drawer slide still animates. When I do it, I have to add the ground on the cabinet rail again other wise all 3 rails move as a group. Is re-grounding the cabinet rail once it is imported something you did, but didn't show? Or am I hitting a limit on the free version? Or doing some other newbie thing wrong!
@@janodi1155How did you "attach" the slide to the "wall" of your cabinet? In my example, I used a RIGID joint command to anchor the cabinet rail to the wall of the cabinet. I used a point on the face of the cab rail component (middle front position of the face that will become flat against the cabinet wall) as the "from" and used the point I created in the sketch as the "to" position for the joint. Assuming the cabinet side (wall) is grounded in space, the cab rail should be anchored to the cabinet wall, and you shouldn't have to ground it again. My guess is a) either your cabinet side (wall) is not grounded, or b) you specified the wrong "from" point (called "joint origin") on the cab rail for the joint. I recommend you watch Tyler's video here: ua-cam.com/video/WRhM0815g4M/v-deo.html
@@David_Best David, that helped a lot. Thank you for taking the time to take me to the next level! Jim
Thank you very much for the awesome video. I enjoyed the slow talking! Can I ask how you then add the drawers? I understand placing the slides on the cabinet, but how do I attach the drawers so that they are attached to the slide and move with the slide?
I'll be doing a new series of videos that address your question. But the simple answer is to position the drawer boxes accurately using the move/align command, then establish an as-built joint between the drawer side and the slide element that attaches to the drawer.
Was hoping you had started the new series after finding this video. I was unsuccessful attaching the drawer to to slides after alignment using the "as built joint" but I got it to work just but creating a ridgid group with just the drawer rail and the drawer itself. Not sure if they're any cons to doing it that way but works for me.
@@3s-Woodworking I will be doing a complete series in a few weeks.
Hi David, thanks for this excellent video! Really hope you will do more of these in the future. Just one general question: what do you use to orbit around your object? Is that some kind of a 3D controller? Sorry, I am still kind of new to these CAD tools, even though I did a lot of projects in fusion already
My next video goes into this in some detail, but the short answer is that I use a 3DConnexion SpaceMouse. 3dconnexion.com/us/product/spacemouse-compact/
@@David_Best was afraid you'd say that - now I want one as well 😌
@@VincentSchmidts Sorry that wasn't the response you'd hoped for. Why the disappointment? It's the best $150 I've spent the past 5 years on a piece of gear for my computer.
the Slow Talking is GREATLY APPRECIATED :)
I drink about the same pace. 😃
@@David_Best Do you have a video about the casters and how you prepared them
@@LadyBlueRR I don’t know what casters you are talking about. Lots of info here:
www.flickr.com/photos/davidpbest/albums
@@LadyBlueRR I will be doing more videos soon. What casters specifically?
@@David_Best any I just need to know how to get them on the bottom of my cart
thank you for the great videos. i have a couple questions you might be able to answer. can you mirror the slides in their file and apply a parameter for sizing to an opening? and can you associate the system holes needed for mounting the slides into that model? bringing them into the cabinet model as a pair, apply them to cabinet openings instead of applying to the cab side, while also locating the system holes for boring in the sides? i run a production cabinet shop and do mostly 2d cad, sketchup. currently i just layout the system hole pattern and dont bother modeling the hardware. however, if we can get the slides and system holes dropped into a model at the same time that would be useful for us, allowing us to see possible conflicts with plumbing/lighting. we are looking to go to cnc fabrication, and are thinking about new software to accomplish our designs. we use a lot of cabinet package software but frankly, it becomes too much of a coding exercise for non-standard custom cabinets. fusion seems ideal for our design needs, but i am just beginning to learn how to organize everything. your videos are excellent. clear, concise, and thorough. no worries if you arent interested in answering questions, i get it.
can you mirror the slides in their file and apply a parameter for sizing to an opening? Yes, if you set it up properly. I assume you are using some standard hole spacing - something like the Eurobox 32mm standard? And all the slides are positioned to a 32mm spacing standard. If that's so, I will do another video on exactly how to do this. But basically, for each drawer slide master model, you would include with the model the drilling template as a component, and once that's imported and positioned, you use the drilling template component to "cut out" the holes in the cabinet sides using the Fusion "Combine" command. That "drilling template" could be nothing more than a collection of cylinders that represent the holes to be drilled, and you could have as many rows as you'd like spaced however you'd like. The Fusion "Combine" command is badly named - it's basically a boolean function where you can use one component as a "tool" and perform an add or subtract operation with a second component, and you can either eliminate the tool in the process, or retain the tool. Let me know if you'd like to see a video on this.
Newer version of Fusion...(R-Click on Component) -> "Unground From Parent" allows MOVE/COPY display @2:43 with additional Distance and Angle features
I'm fully aware. Lots has changed in Fusion since I did this video 2 years ago. Based on feedback from insiders like me and others, lots has improved - especially the joint command and setting joint limits.
31:55 Setting Travel Limits
what about it?
@@David_Best Thank you for the great video. I Just used it for a project. I put this timestamp here just to get to bookmark this part of the video
@@TROYOSTRANDER Ah, glad it was useful to you. More coming. But Fusion has generalized the joint command so that travel method and limits can now all be set in a single operation. The technique is the same but no longer requires so many steps if you want to put it all into one joint operation.
@@David_Best I would love to see how you handled the opposite handed side?
@@TROYOSTRANDER Using a Mirror command. I use it in this video at 8:15 in the timeline. ua-cam.com/video/11vHo35MPMs/v-deo.htmlsi=zMillQVfr6mnNqpw