I feel like it would be a great idea to add “Madi Makes” to the channel because it feels like Clever is ready to move on to bigger builds that take more time. So, she’ll get more crafting time and he’ll feel less pressure to rush his makes. They could alternate weeks or have Madi to a takeover once a month- whichever best suits their schedules
It’s really fun seeing Madi get more comfortable with being in front of the camera. Just in the last few episodes, you can see a lot of growth. Keep up the great work!
Mister Cl3ver, we love you, and we fully acknowledge the already immense amount of work that Miss Maddy does behind the scenes, but we’re also totally here for Miss Maddy “taking the wheel” on a semi-regular basis!
05:49 - 05:59 Makes me wanna say that maybe Madi shouldn't be left unsupervised around the cutting tools, but also not want to say that within earshot of Madi and the cutting tools. All joking aside, I am really digging the different perspectives y'all are doing now. It's super cool to have different skill levels, tastes, and styles represented. Also, three cheers for book mutants.
I've been working on my own book binding, thanks to you, Maddie. I sawed two pieces of spare particle board to the same size. I'm using 8.5 x 14 I accidentally bought. I have a couple of clamps that I used to press the pages. A pocketknife to make the holes for the stitches. I wasn't sure what I was going to use for the thread, until I found my embroidery floss. I just finished the stitches and have an unbound book. I just have to figure out how to put a cover on it. I'm thinking Shoe Goo I have. Maybe an empty cereal box and some leather I have for the cover. I'm also planning on making the shoes too.
Madi, try using the book cloth strips to cover the gaps between front/back covers and spine. Then apply your end papers. This will reinforce the end papers at the hinge points between spine and covers.
So awesome!!! Bookbinding is definitely something I intend to try more of. It really is “simple” materials-wise, and one of those crafts that can just become a regular activity!
Love seeing Madi on the channel again, and this was a great topic. I’m quite interested in bookbinding and for some reason, never thought of just…. Making book blanks over and over until I’m comfortable with them. 😂 Time to get stitching I guess!
yay, another Madi episode. sorry Kit. kind of😂 as for the spine of your books, there are 2 ways you can go. firstly, the thicker the material, the more narrow you should cut it. I don't mean take loads off, but it should only just cover the spine, otherwise your hinge gaps are pretty useless. this also give you the added benefit of books that lay flat and not curved when you open them. second option is to not use a base board there at all, but instead you put a strip of leather/ faux leather on the inside as reinforcement. this gives the spine a much softer ability to move and also give you the lay flat ability. I have successfully used both methods for over 30 years of book binding. on another note, you should make sure that the hinge cloth (the cloth that goes over the spine and attaches to the first and last page before your end pages -you really should be doing this and not just putting it on the spine) is an undyed natural fibre, such as linen or cotton, otherwise it can stain the papers, and some poly materials can even wear through the pages.
Clever is great but it is wonderful to have Madi from time to time. Maybe we could use more Madi, you go girl. (You go girl? What kind of “person” says that?) Look. Over there ! (I run away)
As someone who book binds as a hobby. I would highly recommend making a book press, it just makes everything easier. Secondly, you need to round the spine and trime the overhange. This is done easily with a rubber mallet. Thirdly yeah the contact cement was a no go, you need the longer cure time to make last minute adjustments, and if you lock it in your book press it will be more uniform. Cheers.
I've been trying to collect tools and materials for book binding for a little bit now. A channel I'll recommend is "four keys book arts" he does a good job explaining things. And Madi, the reason your book spines are stiff is cause you didn't break them.
Not bad for early bookbinding. Take note though of materials. You used neutral-pH PVA, but then used Barge and random chipboard that probably isn't acid-free, defeating the purpose. For anyone wanting to learn a LOT look at NerdForge and Four Keys Book Arts. Both are amazing book binding channels!
This is a skill I was learning for a LARP a few years back and I didn't even get that advanced. My sage at a post apocalyptic LARP didn't need to be fancy though so I skipped a lot of steps and it came out genre appropriate. I'm going to be stepping up my game for the one I do now and making stuff around the same quality as your finished product for a different game and this is an excellent tutorial on everything start to finish, especially calling out mistakes you can easily make (and some you did make) which is always helpful. Great job!
Book binding has always been something that i've wanted to get into for a long time. Thank yo for showing a easy way to do booking binding in an entertaining and straight forward way. Also, i love books that are rough and with uneven edges, usually with that woven hard cover.
Elmer's glue (or any pva glue) will totally work for gluing the cover together. It is what i used for my attempts at book binding. I used goat leather and bass wood, and it had no problem holding the wood, leather, and paper together. I glued the end pages to the text block first (instead of the covers) and then attached the cover to it all at once.
So what I do is I glue my board directly to each side of the block and then cover the whole thing with leather. Also, to emboss the front, I draw what I want on the board with pencil then I take string and glue and go over my pencil lines with the string. Then, when you lay your leather down on top of it, it causes an indent where the string is. I’m no expert but I do enjoy it. Oh! One more thing. I don’t cut the corners before wrapping. I wrap and fold the corners then do a paper cut. That insures that your corners meat up perfectly. I hope that helps
Book binding is a lot of fun 😊 I am a big fan of Coptic Stitch books but I don't do any glue so my books look very different to these I also like seeing you in more videos, but I miss the bouncy yoga ball lol
Great video! 3:53 "Learn from my mistakes", if I ever have a youtube channel, that will probably be my catchphrase. Although, 22:29, "this is weirdly addicting and I just want to make more" could probably be the catchphrase for my life.
Just to share, I started with a cost saving trick because I didn't have a patience to wait to get the "right" stuff. Instead of the waxed thread, I started using dental floss, it is waxed, very strong (try breaking some) and much cheaper than any other thread I could find. At $.97 for 50 yards it kinda hard to beat plus it is nearly invisible in the final book. Great vid Madi!
There used to be/might still be a pretty decent cutting board that was wood with silicone corners, it used to be a thing of grabbing two of those along with bolts and wing nuts to make a $10 book press...might need some washers as well. The silicone corners just get popped off and there's a notch there for those that you can feed the bolts through
Amazing work! Also if you want your pages to look kinda rustic/old looking, if you get some coffee and mix it in some hot water, pour that into a pan you can soak or dip your pages in there to give it a cool rusitc look
The number of times you said "cover" and the fact you're wearing a t-shirt that says "rock & roll" is just hilarious to me. Part of my brain kept expecting you to suddenly have a guitar and start playing "through the fire and the flames".
Good job Miss M. Thoughts on the cover assembly: A thin cordage or leather lacing between the spine and the sides will take up spacing and be flexible for opening. Second, you have the flex tape (the cheese cloth like ) material from gluing text blocks together, try using another set to cover between the hard board spine and each side. I am looking forward to more projects.
You can also make your own bookbinding glue with basic ingredients then store it for a few months, you just warm it up a little when you need to use it.
You can decorate the leather and mybe gold leaf some of them, Add some with the skill tree logo and some with the larp logo you can even combine them ie Skill Tree @ Reconing
I love bookbinding just as something to chill with 😂 I am super proud though cause I channeled my inner Cl3ver today and just did my first ever soldering job and I now have a 100% working Xbox controller for 10 bucks (cost of the solder iron and solder) 😄 I think I leveled up
My only thought on the spine would be to measure the thickness of the block and add the thickness of your cover material for the spine width. That should give the spine solid width but enough extra space to be flexible while remaining tight when open. I'll give it a try and report back my findings.
My favourite way to be lazy about bookbinding it the time I stitched up four signatures of watercolour paper and then simply glued the front and back pages to a thick bit of leather to form a cover. It hides the stitching and is slightly larger than the text block, so it kinda protects it. This of course only works with sufficiently thick paper like that, though... unless you stitch on endpapers...
what about the metal tooly thing that you used to set the spacing of the boards and to cut the leather corners..............i have a deep need for one of those
I recommend NOT folding the signatures individually and then combining. The reason why is your signatures will develop a fine point vs a round back and that'll lead to more tearing when you're trying to see it together. Been doing this for a couple years and I learned that in my readings.
The next step: printing press a book. Or just having a book/story you want in a custom bound version. Like a fanfic or maybe just a bunch of your digital art or whatever.
You dont need any bookbinding glue.. you can make it yourself with water and starch or wheat flour.. it's called paste and that's what they traditionally use for making and restaurating books. It even works dramatically well with leather. And it's even reversible with water in case you make a mistake. Also, please don't glue the spine to the textblock. That was hard to watch to be honest. Liked it for the punk though. Or maybe I should relax and get more of that punk into my bookbinding process.
Petition to give Madi her own series on the channel ❤
I think she should have her own channel. Id watch that all the time
I second both of these suggestions.
I feel like it would be a great idea to add “Madi Makes” to the channel because it feels like Clever is ready to move on to bigger builds that take more time. So, she’ll get more crafting time and he’ll feel less pressure to rush his makes. They could alternate weeks or have Madi to a takeover once a month- whichever best suits their schedules
Seconded and thirded
Plus her own chair!
It’s really fun seeing Madi get more comfortable with being in front of the camera. Just in the last few episodes, you can see a lot of growth. Keep up the great work!
Queen of Crows, once more ascends to the skill tree throne! Hail Queen Madi🎉
Mister Cl3ver, we love you, and we fully acknowledge the already immense amount of work that Miss Maddy does behind the scenes, but we’re also totally here for Miss Maddy “taking the wheel” on a semi-regular basis!
05:49 - 05:59 Makes me wanna say that maybe Madi shouldn't be left unsupervised around the cutting tools, but also not want to say that within earshot of Madi and the cutting tools.
All joking aside, I am really digging the different perspectives y'all are doing now. It's super cool to have different skill levels, tastes, and styles represented.
Also, three cheers for book mutants.
I've been working on my own book binding, thanks to you, Maddie. I sawed two pieces of spare particle board to the same size. I'm using 8.5 x 14 I accidentally bought. I have a couple of clamps that I used to press the pages. A pocketknife to make the holes for the stitches.
I wasn't sure what I was going to use for the thread, until I found my embroidery floss. I just finished the stitches and have an unbound book. I just have to figure out how to put a cover on it. I'm thinking Shoe Goo I have. Maybe an empty cereal box and some leather I have for the cover.
I'm also planning on making the shoes too.
Ok, now I want to bookbind, thanks :D
Madi, try using the book cloth strips to cover the gaps between front/back covers and spine. Then apply your end papers. This will reinforce the end papers at the hinge points between spine and covers.
So awesome!!! Bookbinding is definitely something I intend to try more of. It really is “simple” materials-wise, and one of those crafts that can just become a regular activity!
Love seeing Madi on the channel again, and this was a great topic. I’m quite interested in bookbinding and for some reason, never thought of just…. Making book blanks over and over until I’m comfortable with them. 😂
Time to get stitching I guess!
yay, another Madi episode. sorry Kit. kind of😂
as for the spine of your books, there are 2 ways you can go. firstly, the thicker the material, the more narrow you should cut it. I don't mean take loads off, but it should only just cover the spine, otherwise your hinge gaps are pretty useless. this also give you the added benefit of books that lay flat and not curved when you open them. second option is to not use a base board there at all, but instead you put a strip of leather/ faux leather on the inside as reinforcement. this gives the spine a much softer ability to move and also give you the lay flat ability. I have successfully used both methods for over 30 years of book binding. on another note, you should make sure that the hinge cloth (the cloth that goes over the spine and attaches to the first and last page before your end pages -you really should be doing this and not just putting it on the spine) is an undyed natural fibre, such as linen or cotton, otherwise it can stain the papers, and some poly materials can even wear through the pages.
More Madi videos please! We demand more Madi crafting!
Ok. Now I REALLY want to try making my own Myst Linking Books with these techniques. Thanks!
Clever is great but it is wonderful to have Madi from time to time. Maybe we could use more Madi, you go girl. (You go girl? What kind of “person” says that?)
Look. Over there ! (I run away)
As someone who book binds as a hobby. I would highly recommend making a book press, it just makes everything easier. Secondly, you need to round the spine and trime the overhange. This is done easily with a rubber mallet. Thirdly yeah the contact cement was a no go, you need the longer cure time to make last minute adjustments, and if you lock it in your book press it will be more uniform. Cheers.
We love seeing you Maddie! With or without a chair... Lol. Good job on your crafting.
More Madi! I love your enthusiasm.
Yay another Maddie vid still loving the resident crow! I’m working on making my character sheet journal for larping!
I've been trying to collect tools and materials for book binding for a little bit now. A channel I'll recommend is "four keys book arts" he does a good job explaining things. And Madi, the reason your book spines are stiff is cause you didn't break them.
well, now i what im gonna d as my next project... and also my gf, who loves books and work at the local library, will be pleased with those
Lol finally a project I think I can do!!!!! Also love more Madi content! I think we should have more of both Clever and Madi!
I love how Madi channels Kit at the end of the video.
Great video Madi! I very much enjoyed these last couple videos. You and Clever are a dynamite team, keep up the great content!
Not bad for early bookbinding.
Take note though of materials. You used neutral-pH PVA, but then used Barge and random chipboard that probably isn't acid-free, defeating the purpose.
For anyone wanting to learn a LOT look at NerdForge and Four Keys Book Arts. Both are amazing book binding channels!
Tip… use the release paper from vinyl to tuck between things while spreadable the glue. Makes it easier to keep clean 😊
This is a skill I was learning for a LARP a few years back and I didn't even get that advanced. My sage at a post apocalyptic LARP didn't need to be fancy though so I skipped a lot of steps and it came out genre appropriate.
I'm going to be stepping up my game for the one I do now and making stuff around the same quality as your finished product for a different game and this is an excellent tutorial on everything start to finish, especially calling out mistakes you can easily make (and some you did make) which is always helpful. Great job!
Thank you very much. I just made my first journal/sketchbook and i am so happy about it.
Book binding has always been something that i've wanted to get into for a long time. Thank yo for showing a easy way to do booking binding in an entertaining and straight forward way.
Also, i love books that are rough and with uneven edges, usually with that woven hard cover.
Madi, your solo videos rock!
Perfect timing... I just made my first watercolor tiny painting book. It's rough sure but I love it.!
thats great, she is channeling Clever in the end screen... Love it!
Yes more madi.
Elmer's glue (or any pva glue) will totally work for gluing the cover together.
It is what i used for my attempts at book binding. I used goat leather and bass wood, and it had no problem holding the wood, leather, and paper together.
I glued the end pages to the text block first (instead of the covers) and then attached the cover to it all at once.
So what I do is I glue my board directly to each side of the block and then cover the whole thing with leather. Also, to emboss the front, I draw what I want on the board with pencil then I take string and glue and go over my pencil lines with the string. Then, when you lay your leather down on top of it, it causes an indent where the string is. I’m no expert but I do enjoy it. Oh! One more thing. I don’t cut the corners before wrapping. I wrap and fold the corners then do a paper cut. That insures that your corners meat up perfectly. I hope that helps
Bookbinding is so cool! Love seeing your videos lately Madi!
Book binding is a lot of fun 😊
I am a big fan of Coptic Stitch books but I don't do any glue so my books look very different to these
I also like seeing you in more videos, but I miss the bouncy yoga ball lol
MOAR MADI!
Great video! 3:53 "Learn from my mistakes", if I ever have a youtube channel, that will probably be my catchphrase. Although, 22:29, "this is weirdly addicting and I just want to make more" could probably be the catchphrase for my life.
Just to share, I started with a cost saving trick because I didn't have a patience to wait to get the "right" stuff. Instead of the waxed thread, I started using dental floss, it is waxed, very strong (try breaking some) and much cheaper than any other thread I could find. At $.97 for 50 yards it kinda hard to beat plus it is nearly invisible in the final book.
Great vid Madi!
Oh, that is a neat trick for stealthy seams.
I used a chunky leather working thread and it was bulky enough they showed through the leather cover.
Thank Crow ! Madi Mistress of Crafting is on.
There used to be/might still be a pretty decent cutting board that was wood with silicone corners, it used to be a thing of grabbing two of those along with bolts and wing nuts to make a $10 book press...might need some washers as well.
The silicone corners just get popped off and there's a notch there for those that you can feed the bolts through
Very Interesting video. Have learned a lot about bookbinding just by watching.
Have now saved into my interesting makes folder so I can re-watch.
i genuinely love your videos! i love that you show us the wrinkles and rips. You still end up with a cool looking item!! #teammadi
Amazing work! Also if you want your pages to look kinda rustic/old looking, if you get some coffee and mix it in some hot water, pour that into a pan you can soak or dip your pages in there to give it a cool rusitc look
Yay Maddie is back! Clever who? Lol
The number of times you said "cover" and the fact you're wearing a t-shirt that says "rock & roll" is just hilarious to me. Part of my brain kept expecting you to suddenly have a guitar and start playing "through the fire and the flames".
back to back madi vids?! 😍🤩
Thanks Madi !!! loved the video :)
Good job Miss M.
Thoughts on the cover assembly:
A thin cordage or leather lacing between the spine and the sides will take up spacing and be flexible for opening. Second, you have the flex tape (the cheese cloth like ) material from gluing text blocks together, try using another set to cover between the hard board spine and each side.
I am looking forward to more projects.
Draw a diagonal line after marking the text block sewing holes. This helps you realise you have the signatures flipped before you sew it.
Where did you get that angled ruler?
I think clever should let you do more projects on your own, gives him a break, and it adds a new face to his channel
Very nice video! I now want to make a book!
I JUST thought about making a book for my costume. Y'all are Wizards.
You can also make your own bookbinding glue with basic ingredients then store it for a few months, you just warm it up a little when you need to use it.
Nerd forge goes pretty deep into book making
Why must i always be at work when yhese upload!!!😂
I would love seeing how to do softcover
You can decorate the leather and mybe gold leaf some of them, Add some with the skill tree logo and some with the larp logo you can even combine them ie Skill Tree @ Reconing
I love bookbinding just as something to chill with 😂 I am super proud though cause I channeled my inner Cl3ver today and just did my first ever soldering job and I now have a 100% working Xbox controller for 10 bucks (cost of the solder iron and solder) 😄 I think I leveled up
Knowing which way is up is reeeeeeeally importent if the book ir already "printed"...
It is seriously addicting
You can use a small hand plane to trim your paper flush.
Love that maddie is become more and more active infront of the camara. Nothing against Clever but its nice to have a second face
She needs to go through and re-do a lot of clevers projects but simpler and easier.
My only thought on the spine would be to measure the thickness of the block and add the thickness of your cover material for the spine width. That should give the spine solid width but enough extra space to be flexible while remaining tight when open. I'll give it a try and report back my findings.
My favourite way to be lazy about bookbinding it the time I stitched up four signatures of watercolour paper and then simply glued the front and back pages to a thick bit of leather to form a cover. It hides the stitching and is slightly larger than the text block, so it kinda protects it. This of course only works with sufficiently thick paper like that, though... unless you stitch on endpapers...
what about the metal tooly thing that you used to set the spacing of the boards and to cut the leather corners..............i have a deep need for one of those
I recommend NOT folding the signatures individually and then combining. The reason why is your signatures will develop a fine point vs a round back and that'll lead to more tearing when you're trying to see it together. Been doing this for a couple years and I learned that in my readings.
Madi again!
The next step: printing press a book. Or just having a book/story you want in a custom bound version. Like a fanfic or maybe just a bunch of your digital art or whatever.
don't forget to check the grain direction of your paper/board!
Check out Four Keys!! Great intro info for books!
I got into book binding to be able to bind my favorite fanfictions.
Need to learn this, bought a storybook for my kid that started loosing pages immediately and I want to fix it
New product line "Maddie's Mutated Journels" hopefully coming soon
MADI!! MADI!! MADI!!
Looks like Cl3ver has been replaced 😅😅. Go Maddy
11:16 if draw a face on the board it would look like a little book press man
Do decorate the leather like material before or after attaching to hard board ?
You would decorate the cover after it is put on.
It's the invasion of the bodysnatchers 😂😂😂❤❤❤just kidding maddie 😂😂😂
Maddie shoes and books you need more time on your own skills Kit makes a thing and it's good you make a thing and love it keep leveling up you
I love to see a no sew method
next... leather bound hard cover book that is the skill tree representation of the necronomicon
Make the Great Book of Gummi
Woohoo.
Can we get a Madi makes a throne video?
...it should be a big fancy frame housing a yoga ball, lol!
Why do I wanna just take all my paperbacks and make hardcovers for them now lol
You dont need any bookbinding glue.. you can make it yourself with water and starch or wheat flour.. it's called paste and that's what they traditionally use for making and restaurating books. It even works dramatically well with leather. And it's even reversible with water in case you make a mistake. Also, please don't glue the spine to the textblock. That was hard to watch to be honest. Liked it for the punk though. Or maybe I should relax and get more of that punk into my bookbinding process.
Ar u guys going to pensic
This may take a couple of rewataches before I feel like I have this one down.
Hazzah ! to the crow queen my we she more of her in the future.
First minute!
Can we just change the channel name to Madi Tree?
Well, hello there.
Definitely know Madi needs better coverage...
BDSM and book binding...my bad, almost sorry.