Source Audio Ventris Dual Reverb Demo (Ambient Guitar Gear Review)
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- Опубліковано 26 гру 2017
- Discussion and demo of the Source Audio Ventris Dual Reverb. With 12 out of the box reverb types and 12 more available through software, the Ventris is a powerful, great sounding reverb pedal. Lush reverb soundscapes are super easy to create by cascading 2 reverb types at the same time! Also, this pedal is a PERFECT companion for the Source Audio Nemesis Delay!
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Yeah - sorry for all the "cools" in the video. Anyway - the Ventris is really nice. If you are in the market for a reverb, it's definitely worth trying out!!
Chords Of Orion I understand the ventris is far more advanced, but how would you compare the lushness of the neunaber immerse with this guy?
@Chords of Orion: I've really enjoyed your channel and I'm a proud owner of all your albums on Bandcamp. I love what you do with the instrument and how you shape your soundscapes. I have a question about this unit. I have been pining for a Strymon Big Sky for years. I have an Eventide H9 and a few of the older Lexicon units (LXP-1, LXP-15, and the MPX-1) as well as a Zoom MS-70CDR the Boss RV-6 and my old Alesis Quadraverb and Boss SE70. I use these in combination and with other delays and effects. What I would like to ask you, as someone who understands the sensation of space created by these different units, does the Ventris Dual Reverb seem to capture the same depth and warmth that the Strymon does? I love the Eventide Space algorithms in the H9, but they seem a bit cold and less organic than the Strymon. I would appreciate any insight that you could offer.
Thank you for your time and insight.
Peace.
I would be curious to know the same thing...
Have been debating between one high-end reverb, between Strymon BigSky, Eventide Space, Neunaber Immerse, and now this Ventris
I kind of want some versatility, and each one seems to have strengths and limitations which make it very, very hard to choose:
Space: I like the customization options and digital readouts of the pot values (for precise dialing up later), and it has some nice tones... but it feels slightly more compressed or constrained or dark than the BigSky (and used by one of my favorite post-prog bands, Explosions in the Sky)
BigSky: I like the open airiness of the tones, and the customizability like the Space; seems like it has better out-of-box presets than Space. Most of all, its Cloud mode is the most lush, expansive, airy sound I've heard in any of the reverb pedals, and it is a real siren's song for me (also a sound I recognize in some of my favorite artists, like Tycho and Hammock, who both use BigSky in their pedal lineups)
Immerse: Seemed like a lot of bang for the buck; the standards (plate and hall) seem decent, and I like the Shimmer on this one more than any of the others (plus there are a few bonuses like detune)... but sometimes I want to get some surf rock or rockabilly sounds, and it is not as good for those... its Spring model is pretty weak. Can't go as lush/expansive as the BigSky Cloud mode, either...
Ventris: I'm really liking the tonal quality -- it seems to have a good balance of constrained/contained, as well as ability to do more open/bright lush/airy sounds. The Spring model on this is also better than any of the above, from what I have heard. And, of course, you can combine two reverb effect DSPs, which also sets it apart! I'm just wondering if it can go as "wide open" expansive/lush as the BigSky (somebody said it could copy Cloud, but I have not yet seen this anywhere in a video; if so, then Ventris is my winner) or even Immerse. [This one is also $100 cheaper than BigSky and Space, but $100 more than Immerse, which makes the decision even tougher]
So, in short... I'd love to have some more opinions or "priorities" by some of these ambient artists I trust on UA-cam, as well! (They do good demos, but I wish they would sort of "rank" them somewhere, rather than saying "This sounds nice... so does this... and so does this")
Did you end up deciding on one? If so, what did you get, and are you happy with it?
Chords Of Orion what and amazing pedal. I love your demo of the different effects. Such a powerful tool! The stereo out with certain effects sounds like this reverb pedal is kind of... a reverb/rotary/delay/tremolo all in one. I could listen to you all day in meditation, mellowing my heart rate out.
Totally cool with me.
You're the man, Bill! Brilliant video as always - every clip sounds beautiful. Thanks for plugging into our reverb.
Hey - thanks for making a great reverb!! :-)
Your reverb is unbelievable. I love it already!!!
I bought the ventris on the strength of this brilliant video. I absolutely love it! I do have two questions.... maybe Bill/Source Audio or someone can help... I like to use an expression pedal with my effects wherever possible - and on the Ventris I would want to assign an expression pedal globally (for every preset and engine) to control the mix knob wet/dry mix.... I cant see this as an option in the desktop editor.. it would seem a lot of hassle/duplication to set it up individually for every single preset I save. Does anyone know if this is an option in the hardware global settings? Same applies to the press/hold function on the option switch... I would like the hold function to be latched on a global setting .... Any way to do this?
A new video of Sir Davos Seaworth....press play, give a like.
Haha...I was so busy listening to tones and watching Bill play the guitar that i completely forgot what I was watching the demo for . So soothing to the soul. Bill has the best demos ...and most interesting music! Brilliant, Bill ! And all the "cools" didn't bother me. You SOUNDED like me. Cool!
Man, you are just the best at chill moods. Love this pedal demo!
Great demo! And beautiful creative melodies too!! Thanks Bill
Best demo I’ve watched on the Ventris! I just ordered one...one day delivery too! This is the “coolest” reverb I have ever heard! You know just what to play to show it off too. At first I thought you were running effects in before the Ventris, until I realized this is all Ventris! I am considering buying the Nemesis also in the future, but this actually has delay and modulation which is very nice! This just sounds right to me. Thanks Bill.
Excellent review. Instead of doing what most reviewers do: playing all sorts of no sense notes all over the place. You left proper space between the notes to actually hear the REVERBS!! Thanks! 👌
Thanks for the demo!! Sounds amazing. That's a gorgeous guitar btw
Great demo 🙌🙏
The new Big Sky MX made me buy one of these under-the-radar-pedals, and I am very happy with this dual engine dream reverb.💞
Love the pedal, love the playing, love the video. Really nice review and demo !
Enjoy your ambient demos as always
Well I’ve been waiting for this review since I first saw the announcement for the Ventris last year and wow, Great to hear all the sounds this thing can generate. Now I can’t wait to get one of my own.
Definitely a reverb worth checking out!
That first mode is extremely trippy, love it!
Just ordered mine today! Can’t wait!
I got the impression you can let shine about every pedal
Great stuff man
Super cool !!!
Thanks very much!!!
Uncle Orion in the house! Excellent demo.
great demo! Thanks for sharing
Wow! That room setting sounded great with those low notes.
this is one COOL reverb pedal!
Excellent review as always always,it's beautiful sound you made🕉
Thanks!!!
Great demo, thank you so much!
Sounds amazing!!
Great video bro, nice reverb!!!
Great sounding pedal - and great playing!!!
Thanks!!!
This thing sounds sooooo good.
Love to hear you play so you can say cool all you like.
I just bought this unit, based on this demo. It is working out really great....but has a learning curve to fully use the Neuro software, and figuring out the 'dual purpose use of the switches'.
Just make sure you’re listening to this demo with a nice set of headphones. Sounds great!!!
Minds been set on the big sky but you may have inspired me to try a different route!
You have such cool gear. So jealous.
That first little lead line during the “Plate” section, well I think that was in Lydian? But.... that was VERY Simpson’s-esque. Cool stuff. Love the channel!
Hi Bill, me again. You remember I sold my BigSky, and now I have the Ventris. I LOVE IT! The controls and user interface are, in my opinion, extremely friendly and easy to quickly grab a great sound. No "deep diving" for parameters. What kills me is the "dual reverb", particularly in parallel. Not easy to get parallel reverbs in the pedal world and I think those sounds on the Ventris are unique and very musical. This pedal is 100% useful; no extraneous, weird, bizarre sounds. Plus the two DSP engines produce crystal, wonderful tone. Haven't dived into the software; may never need to. Thanks for demo-ing this!
Glad you are liking the Ventris. It's a great reverb for sure!
Yes, I like it more than the BigSky: not because it is "better", because the BigSky has fantastic, wonderful sounds. But I really like the user interface a lot more; no searching for parameters deep down. What you see on the dials is what you get. Plus the dual reverb (parallel) is really a wonderful tool. And I find all the engines are really great sounding. I do miss the "Bloom" and "Choral" engines from the BigSky. I find the sounds of the Ventris are every bit as gorgeous as the BigSky, but that is for my ears only; I'm not saying this sound is better than that sound. Plus the Ventris has the software that can be used to dial in different sounds, and makes it "upgrade-able" for future. Works similarly as the SA Nemesis, which also has 12 factory engines on the pedal, but through the software you can access 14 additional engines, and replace them onto the Nemesis if you want. That provides down-the-road new sounds. So, yeah, I am much happier with it than the BigSky.
You've mentioned «Bloom» and «Choral», but where's the cloud? Does Ventris can produce cloud-ish sound? Lashing and long-decayed. Thanks.
WOW!! love it 4:48 SHIMMER!
Analog synth guys use this reverb a lot. I do for sure. They can take in hot and complex signals better than most pedal reverbs
Thanks for showing us this new product (haven't seen it!).... first off, at your first play-through (Modverb at 3:44), the ping-pong, stereo effect is unreal. Very cool. All these reverbs are really nice, useful. I'm impressed with Source Audio; I have the Nemesis and love it. P.S. always love your playing, regardless of pedal..... P.P.S. I returned my Line 6 Helix. That's a whole other story. P.P.S. I don't have a "reverse reverb" on my BigSky or Immerse; that sounded really cool (useful too).
Yeah, Bill's Modverb clip is sweet. The Modverb engine actually has two modes. When you move the CONTROL 1 knob (which controls modulation depth) to the right of 12 o'clock the tremolo effect is applied to the dry and the wet signal simultaneously. When the CONTROL 1 knob is set to the left of 12 o'clock the tremolo is applied to the dry signal only which then feeds into the reverb, just as you would find in vintage Fender amps.
Very nice indeed! Is it a harmonic tremolo?
Such a great pedal I got mine about 2 weeks ago. Will say though for potential buyers your amp makes a massive difference. I have a boss katana for practice while I’m at college and a tone master twin reverb back home, and it sounds night and day better on the twin. Almost sounds bad on the katana to be honest. Would sell if I didn’t know how spectacular it really was on the twin, yes even a digital twin. Thankfully I am graduating in May and will sell my katana then! The pedal was worth the extra money. Can’t wait to pair it with a nemesis here within the next year! Thanks for your great demos
Glad you are enjoying the Ventris. I think your point is an excellent one - the amp you use also plays into what pedals you use!
Chords Of Orion absolutely, the longer you play the more you realize that all your gear, while separate parts, add together to make one whole unit. Each component will summate into the whole. Therefore each matters a lot! Thanks again Bill!
Really like your ambient demos Bill and this pedal sounds awesome. But considering spending money on the Boss Ms-3. Is it possible for you to make a demo for it?
Great demo, thanks! How would you compare this one to Neunaber's Immerse? Cheers, Carlos.
Wow , sounds amazing , Thanks for going through the settings , if you dont mind me asking whats your tuning ?, sounds fantastic
Cool!
Do you like the Source Audio or Bigsky reverse better? They sound similar based on this clip. Great sound you dialed in here!
can this do, maybe using echoverb with a second reverb (?) the cascading effect that the Hungry Robot The Wash pedal does?
Love mine!!!!!
Cool!
wat song is the first you play? i like it so much 0:06
Effects loop or front end?
Thom York does pedal demos??
Holy crap that shimmer is nice.
It is very nice indeed.
We spent an enormous amount of time on the Shimmer effect. That is a very challenging sound. It's way too easy to create an algorithm that is harsh and out of tune - Bob and Jesse (the Source Audio engineers) put weeks and weeks into creating a Shimmer sound that was warm and musical with a robust blooming effect. We're super proud of how the Shimmer effect turned out on the Ventris. And Bill's clip really showcases the effect beautifully.
I had to decide save my money and get the vintris or go ahead and by the specular Gfi..so I got the specular now and will get the ventris tax return. Please do a demo on the specular. Thanks
Great Video! To my great astonishment, after I tested the Ventris, I found out that the "Ext.Midi Clock Sync" function described in the manual is not provided by Source Audio. I think that's a major shortcoming and would like to ask you to write also to Source Audio in order to achieve a speedy firmware update that implements the Midi Sync feature!
The Nemensis Delay has this feature! So both devices would complement each other completely.
Thanks a lot and greetings!
I will make some inquiries!
Great, thanks a lot!!
Has this been sorted?
Love the VENTRIS just getting into it 1 st night and it has my fav reverb sounds so far from any pedal. I own HOF V.1 which will always be on my live board and I enjoyed the EQD Avalanche run through pedal genie earlier this month. This VENTRIS reverb is def on its own level. Really cool to blend 2 different reverb types together with the dual engine. I see the hot hand option on back not sure how that would work for reverb ? Have you tried hot hand on it ? Might be ambient
i have not tried the Hot Hand. As a matter of fact, I was not aware of it. Looks interesting!
I finally put it on my board.It really cuts through a mix in studio.It has some kind of a mystical sound.
I gotta keep tweaking this thing. I know it’s a killer pedal, but so far I haven’t quite gotten it right. It’s killer, but I’m missing my Eventide Space.
Any chance of a review of the Polymoon delay or Mercury 7 reverb by Meris?
Never heard of them until this comment. I checked out the Polymoon, and it seems like it has some great sounds!
Love this pedal
@Chords Of Orion or anybody who can help--
I own the Ventris and Nemesis. I would love to find out if I can load sounds from other source audio pedals into the presets on the ventris or nemesis. For example, can I load sounds from the gemini chorus or the vertigo tremolo pedals into the nemesis or ventris?
Hmmm. You should write to SA support for confirmation, but i do not believe you can.
Hi, Where and how can you access the "extra" reverb engines from the editor? I dont see them. It stinks thats there arent really people sharing presets for this monster pedal. Love your ambient sounds. Thanks so much for your videos and performances.
Hey Javier: Just download the Neuro desktop app, or load the mobile version of the app to your phone. You can then connect your Ventris up and get to all the "deep" editing parameters.
Thanks a lot. Im in between this pedal and the eventide H9 for the space algorithms, for ambient stuff. Take care.
How do you find Ventris in comparison to Big Sky , out of the box, ( sound usability and sound quality wise ) ? Thanks Bill.
tweed guitar crushes it
I'm looking for an amazing reverb pedal. Would you still recommend this? I can't decide between the empress, strymon big sky, ventris or immerse.
Yes, however, I also recommend the Empress, BigSky and Immerse, as they are all amazing reverb pedals. A suggestion to determine which one to get is to write down a list of requirements (features, reverb types, etc.) that you need and compare to the features of the pedals.
"Cools of Orion"
Ha!
He is one cool dude that knows how to chill ❄️❄️❄️
Seems to have delay too. Eggsellent.
Wanna hear your lead tone
it sounds amazing!! BUT what is happening at 5:04? it i assume the pitch shifter is having trouble deciphering multiple notes. Do you think that is a Source Audio issue or overall pitch shift issue?
also the reverb reverse sounded slightly grainy, which could be cool, but I wonder if you notices it cleaned up with a setting adjustment? Thanks so much for the demo, your playing really allows me to imagine the possibilities for this.
I am not hearing an issue, but my ears are old.
The reverse is pretty much that tone. It tends to swell the reverse in "slices" if that makes sense.
Precio
Thanks for the video. So, this or Collide?!
Depends on what you are looking for. Do you want a dedicated reverb with more or a combination delay/reverb that each has simpler features?
Great demo, I particularly like the larger reverbs that the Ventris does. Chords of Orion, how does the Ventris compare to the Boss RV-500? I was looking to upgrade my reverb (I currently am using the line 6 verbzilla) and I haven't seen any videos comparing the RV-500 to the ventris.
I recently did a comparison of the Hall reverb engine using several reverbs, and the Ventris and RV-500 were 2 of the units: ua-cam.com/video/nD_77bytxC8/v-deo.html. Let me know what you think! I do like the RV-500 quite a bit. Tons of features, and it included the ability to run multiple reverb types together ALONG with delay!, Like all BOSS pedals, it has a BOSS round. The Ventris has a Source Audio sound. Strymon Big Sky has a Strymon sound. They are all good - the question is which do you prefer?
Chords Of Orion ok cool, thanks. I'm going to try out the Ventris soon (I'm trying out the pedal Genie rental service).
I'm kind of torn between the two though. But that's part of the fun of deciding which pedal you want to buy.........watching a million pedal demos lol
I have a wonderful old fuzz pedal that would love to feed that pedal some juice.
Yes!!
+Chords Of Orion Interestng station on google radio. Travelers Radio. Ambient Metal music. Very interesting playing going on. Check it out sometime.
Some lovely pre set but i think i will stick with my strymon big sky
I totally understand that. The Big Sky is great!
This is the best Reverb engine of all human history ...im just waiting that the prices will drop down coz its damn expensive right now =/6 Do you think it could be used hooked after a multiFX (Boss GT100) N running thru active monitoring speakers
Still waiting? Hahah
Hahaa!
Update
Now it's 500€.
Worth. Mine will arrive tomorrow!
😃😃😃
No way could I afford this pedal outright. I had to exploit my relationships at my local music store to make it more affordable. Definitely worth the depletion of that capital. Now I just need to go back and purchase the SourceAudio whip and chair to try and tame the beast.
Glad you were able to get it. There are so many deep editing possibilities, it's crazy!
@@chordsoforion - Thanks for the encouragement and the awesome and comprehensive review. Source Audio owes you a commission, likely many, for helping in my decision.
I really appreciate the knowledge I gain from you.
Best than the bigsky ???
No, it is not better. It's different.
It has a mystical sound for me.Cuts great through tracks.
Chords Of Orion thanks for your kindness of answering my qs
The intro song is very good but this sound is ASTRAL "pin ponnn" 0:08
I don't know anything about the ASTRAL. Who makes it and what is it?
@@chordsoforion
No, I mean that sound is very mystical :)
While it sounds somehow awesome, the heavy ping pong stereo effect makes me feel sick with my headphones.
You should hear it thru my stereo amp setup😝
Nice sounds but I'd have liked to hear it with a "normal" guitar and into a mono amp, the usual setup of a guitarist.
As someone who loves stereo effects, I come here specifically to hear the stereo demonstration of pedals before I buy them. There are lots of pedal demos on youtube, but Bill's channel is one of the few places to consistently hear stereo pedals demonstrated to their full potential. In that way, I feel that Bill provides demonstrations for an underserved niche and he would be remiss to switch to mono. You can always go watch another demo to hear the pedal in mono (if it's a popular enough pedal) but those of us who love stereo come to Bill to hear stereo. Furthermore, if you aren't interested in stereo, there are probably more cost-effective mono pedals worth considering than stereo pedals like this one. So while I can't disagree with your point of view and I understand that many people don't use stereo rigs for a variety of reasons, I have to voice my protestation to your comment because I hope that Bill doesn't heed your advice and keeps making the content that I love.
And in terms of him using a baritone guitar instead of a "normal" guitar, recall that a baritone guitar only extends the range of a guitar down 5 half steps - so most of Bill's playing in this video could have been demonstrated identically on a traditional guitar by sliding down a few frets. Only a handful of notes here and there actually take advantage of the extended low range. The baritone guitar has tonal differences from a traditional guitar, but all guitars have tonal differences between each other. So there's no perfectly representative demo guitar. And for some of us, like myself, who own baritone guitars or even the 277, this is the representative guitar.
Lastly - I didn't always own a stereo rig or a 277. But I stumbled upon Bill's channel about a year ago and he inspired me to pursue it. It has really invigorated my guitar playing and given me another musical avenue to explore. Having someone who's willing to challenge your assumptions about how guitar is supposed to be played or can be played is be very valuable to some of us, even if it isn't something that everyone wants to put the energy or dosh into pursuing.
So while Bill could have done this demo in mono on a strat or a Les Paul and perhaps have been able to provide a representative example to a broader audience, he would be both neglecting his existing audience (self-selected lovers of stereo and baritone guitar) and losing aspects that make his content unique compared to the slew of pedal demos from other youtubers. I don't think that's a tradeoff worth making.
Bill - if you're reading this, please keep up the good work :)
Maybe it's the most common setup but that's just a massive shame! Reverb and delay should ALWAYS be stereo for full effect.
Poul Winther Knudsen massive shame? Stop ballooning comments.
@@robertmailloux3720 Yes, Mr. Wordpolice. I shall immediately conform to your high standards of ultra-boredom!
Kew-el
:-)
Shit you can even make the room reverb does ambient. Respeck.
Source Audio pedals are expensive. Yet they are Made in China! 😂😂😂
and your iPhone? 😂😂😂
I just got one of these grey underdogs and it sounds fantastic. 🤩 No need for even more expensive Big Sky MX or MercuryX.