Motorcycle Travel - Protection or Prevention?

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  • @kurrie3280
    @kurrie3280 8 місяців тому +11

    Your elbow to the vise was a good illustration of the protective value that armor can provide.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому +1

      Good!

    • @bjb7587
      @bjb7587 8 місяців тому +1

      Perhaps for minor impacts. But F9 was talking about falls with much greater force, hard enough to break bones.
      That said, after I saw his video, I did not remove my armor. As I recall, he said he did not remove his either.

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller8980 8 місяців тому +16

    Safety is a combination of many factors, which you have described. No single features is enough on it's own, its the lot of them together.
    Perhaps the most important topic.
    Good one
    Ride safe 👍

  • @rangie944
    @rangie944 8 місяців тому +12

    Wise words as always Pavlin. Thank you for putting a word out for armour, the elbow test was a good demonstration some will already agree with.

  • @903lew
    @903lew 8 місяців тому +3

    Not wearing armour because it won’t prevent a fracture from a certain amount of joules it…well it’s something. Like a lot of the other pseudoscience F9 has put out there it leaves me scratching my head. Your example with the elbow and the vice mirrors my own while coming off at about 30kph. I’ve done it on bicycles without armour and I’ve done it on a motorbike with gear. One of these hurt a lot more than the other. Good video.
    Regarding prevention a paragliding world record holder gave me very good advice one time in regards to not crashing:
    1. Never start racing.
    2. Never film yourself flying.
    Because both of these things make people silly.

  • @elsocket
    @elsocket 8 місяців тому +5

    Six month ago I totaled my motorcycle, I was very fortunate and I walked away only with minor injuries. It was not my fault but I felt like it was, I was distracted in very busy intersection. Man, really who cares who was in fault when you are in the hospital bed with half of your bones broken. I really do not care who wares safety gear or not, but if you believe that your safety gear do not protect you than keep that to your self, just do not spread it around. I can not believe we are discussing this...
    Great video as always, thanks for your time and efforts👍

  • @GiancarloBenzina
    @GiancarloBenzina 8 місяців тому +4

    Hahaha, F9 goes wild with that video, everybody commenting on it. He has a few videos where he totally gets lost in his pseudo-science not realizing that he missed the point or doing so for his fun and clicks.
    But with such a video I would think if it goes viral which it seems doing, what damage am I creating? A lot, really, a lot. His trueths are in essence wrong, the ones that people will take from the video, even though he told people it’s more a theoretic thoughtmodel.
    Protection protects, it does not shield you from the accident 100%, make it not happened. It is a relative protection, it’s better than nothing and some are better than just better than nothing, that’s all it is, but it’s utmost relevant to have it. It does not protect from mistakes, it only reduces the impact, enough or not is a different story.
    Your points are the key. I learned that in my whole youth, sitting in our car and watching as I traveled with my parents. I saw accidents, foolish people careful people, corrupt police, thieves and kind and helpful people, I saw the death hour at 6am right into its face and know what a person in a compact car looks like after it had been rolled up the hill by a 38ton truck for 200ms.
    Always know ahead what people will do, ride to your own concrete baseline skill and attention level, never stretch out to the edge of your capabilities. Wear your Knights armor, so if the knight falls he can still fight back the evil Drake and ride home. These rules are to be followed, whatever gear, solo on a long-range. Yes we ignore them far too often, but these are when we make mistakes and get hurt quickly, not only by own fault, but by allowing other people’s faults impact us.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for taking the time and adding some additional information with this commend!

    • @robertdaley1194
      @robertdaley1194 8 місяців тому

      Your Guardian Angel protects you .

  • @vnm_8945
    @vnm_8945 8 місяців тому +3

    One of the best channels from UA-cam, always with the good stuff, greeting from Romania!

  • @SandraOrtmann1976
    @SandraOrtmann1976 8 місяців тому +5

    I saw this to me rather strange video by RyanF9 as well. As a reaction, I described exactly your story and mentioned this channel. To me (aside from my personal experience when going down due to an ice plate in winter at the very beginning of my motorcycle riding career), this is the best example why wearing AG-AT (All Gear All Time) is paramount IMO to increase your chance significantly to remain in one piece with no broken bones should things go bad on a motorcycle.

  • @vstromxt3799
    @vstromxt3799 8 місяців тому +2

    I fully agree Pavlin. One of my personal tips: Nothing to prove ! Take care and drive safe

  • @sa4555
    @sa4555 8 місяців тому +1

    Glad to be reminded by a fellow rider that practice safe riding is worth the effort especially when you have a pillion with you.

  • @1bikerdude
    @1bikerdude 8 місяців тому +10

    One of your best and to the point videos this one - and what I personally practice! Ryan F9 gets lost in his pseudo science and that “I don’t use armour” video is probably the most dangerous one he’s ever produced. I even shy away from group rides because they often end up being an arena for more or less skilled show-offs.

  • @docholliday2364
    @docholliday2364 8 місяців тому +5

    Without any doubt Pavlin , that is the best advice in this video thank you brother and stay safe 👍👍.

  • @ilkuterkisi
    @ilkuterkisi 8 місяців тому +5

    Great video as always! Proper speed is the speed that you can stop safely!

  • @JamesBond-gv8yd
    @JamesBond-gv8yd 8 місяців тому +1

    You are one of the best motorcycle youtubers: long list of diverse and valuable videos with great advice. Thanks! Keep up the great work.

  • @newbee1976
    @newbee1976 8 місяців тому +1

    It's amazing how after so many videos you still find good topics to discuss about and share good advices. Keep that way !

  • @tileproplus
    @tileproplus 8 місяців тому +1

    Accident avoidance instead of accident protection very well said. In a head on colision with a tree it will always come off best what ever the armour you have unless you are driving a trank.

  • @ichbinmartin
    @ichbinmartin 8 місяців тому +4

    Again every word absolutely truth! But the early start... ;)
    Regarding Ryan, I also watched the video. And also not agree with him. Riding without full gear is not only dangerous, but also unhealthy. Wind, draught, sun, pebbles, insects, dust, water, mud...

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      It is fine when you go to local coffee, but traveling, no way!

    • @ichbinmartin
      @ichbinmartin 8 місяців тому

      @@motorcycleadventures So next time without breakfast, hehehe!

    • @networker-wildrats
      @networker-wildrats 8 місяців тому

      I got Ryan point diferrent:He says that there COULD be working protection - but the manufacturers have to modify the existing protectors.
      So let´s talk about this with the manufactures.

  • @steverussell9340
    @steverussell9340 8 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic advice there pavlin …. No nonsense just the facts.
    Would like to see a video of you working on your bike…maintenance etc.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      Nothing to work on the bike at the moment, all the maintenance was done when I came back from Magadan.

  • @marcheighton6436
    @marcheighton6436 8 місяців тому +1

    Well said Pavlin. At the end of the day every little thing you do contributes to your safety. The idea being to get to the end of the day in one peice and enjoy this amazing passion of motorcycling.
    Ride safe 👍👍👍

  • @rontheretiredone
    @rontheretiredone 8 місяців тому

    I've been riding for over 50 years, still alive and in one piece. This is top advice and should be hardwired into us all! Thank you, love from Leeds, UK

  • @sinaalex7577
    @sinaalex7577 Місяць тому

    Excellent video. Great summary of the most important safety factors.
    Ride at a speed, that you CAN control, not at a speed, that you THINK you can control.
    Predicting a mistake of others is essential for all drivers and riders.
    Riding with riding gear. That should be no topic, but unfortunately there are still too many idiots riding with shorts, T-shirt and sandals, and they think it`s cool.
    Average speed should also be normal, especially when doing a long journey. Racing is not intended for public roads. Unfortunately quite many riders don`t understand the concept of "public roads", and they use them as a race track. At the end these bikers cause a bad reputation for all the normal bikers out there.
    Music, cruise control and higway pegs I have used only with my R1100RT and ONLY on some long highway trips. NEVER on county roads or in the city.
    Early start? Only when I ride with a friend or two, and they want to get up early. When I do my trip alone, I get up at about 8-9 am, have a nice breakfast with about 3-4 cups of coffee, and then I start at about 10 - 10.30 am. In the afternoon, about 1-2 hours before it`s getting dark, I find a place to sleep. Sure, I don`t make as many km as others, but these trips I am out for holidays, not on a mission.
    I am always happy to watch your videos. You EXPLAIN everything from YOUR perspective. You don`t try to preach the "one and only truth" about riding a bike. Your experiences are quite valueable for all bikers. Enjoy all your future trips.

  • @maneckkatrak1379
    @maneckkatrak1379 8 місяців тому

    Thank you, Pavlin - we also call this defensive driving or defensive riding.

  • @OgnianBorisov
    @OgnianBorisov 8 місяців тому

    Ценни съвети отново!
    Повечето бели и сакатлъци стават от надценяване на възможностите на моториста, както казваш.
    Всеки ден наблюдавам, уж нормални хора, а на пътя се държат абсолютно безразсъдно. Може би компенсират "липсата на сантиметри с километри":)))
    Не на последно място, поздравления за видеата.
    Поздрави от София

  • @contentofcharacter
    @contentofcharacter 8 місяців тому

    I really appreciate the reminders of what we should all be doing to stay safe on the road regardless of the vehicle we are in or on. These rules will certainly never fail to keep anyone riding for a long, long time. Also, I want to say I appreciate the fact that you make these videos in English.I’ve been watching your channel for a while now and as a native English speaker I wanted to tell you I appreciate the extra effort you put in to your content.

  • @paulprosser4108
    @paulprosser4108 8 місяців тому

    Hello Pavlin, I agree with you that riders should wear as much protection as financially possible for them. But the point Ryan was making is that the standard of body armour for motorcycles is actually not that high. In fact Ryan's point was that horse riding armour/protection is manufactured to a far higher standard than motorcycle armour. In fact I am meeting a horse riding friend later this week to see if we can fit her body armour in my jacket, just to see how it fits and feels. Although as you say there really is no substitute for safe sensible riding techniques. keep up the great videos.

  • @nkwd007
    @nkwd007 8 місяців тому

    I like Pavlin's pragmatic approach for everything. 95% of the advice is in my opinion accurate (I think I only disagree with cruise control - I find it very useful, although only on necessary motorway crossing from point to point). In regards speed - I met a motorcyclist on my crossing to Europe and he was heading to the same town as me on the 1st day of the trip. His bike was much more powerful than mine and he left off fast as he likes fast riding he said. that day we were both doing approximately 750km on motorways. believe it or not, we met on the way 3 times on petrol stations. And finally we both got to the town in almost the same time. He had to stop more often to fill up the tank and take breaks as his bike was not very comfortable for long journeys. I was cruising very comfortably, with no risks (okay, not too much risk) of getting speed tickets or accident and got to the place in the same time. Finally - body armour - elbow example is spot on. Thanks for another good video.

  • @alexsoma3720
    @alexsoma3720 8 місяців тому +1

    Pavlin you reminded me of the "Swiss cheese model" in aviation: there are many layers to provide safety, but if one starts to ignore a layer there will be a "hole" in your model. Skip many and you'll eventually cross the cheese through all the holes lined up... Then accidents happen. Thank you for saying what needs to be said! I know too many people in cemeteries that won't come back because "the holes lined up" 😢

  • @martincollins-er5bt
    @martincollins-er5bt 6 місяців тому

    I like those tips. It's all spot on..Athother thing I like about early starts is less traffic.

  • @trailrunnermike
    @trailrunnermike 6 місяців тому

    I think you should seriously consider calling your channel “Motocycle Adventures- The Voice of Moto Reason”
    Excellent content sir.

  • @jethrohill6102
    @jethrohill6102 4 місяці тому

    Great advice . Thanks Pavlin

  • @carloscarvalho1961
    @carloscarvalho1961 8 місяців тому

    I saw that Ryan's video too and I agree 100% with you Pavlin. Very good.

  • @KPW2137
    @KPW2137 8 місяців тому

    If I may - my impression from Ryan's video was simply that the protective armor does not offer that much protection so we can't assume that when we have it we're good to go whatever happens.
    However, I fully agree that having all this protective gear mitigates the damage - and that's already something.
    Also, I always ride with an airbag vest - and this device seems in general to be able to make a huge difference. And, surprise surprise I totally agree with Pavlin: you should ALWAYS wear your full gear.
    This sort of leads to the next point: speed. To each its own, but going fast when conditions are problematic ( heavy, fast traffic, people riding in a way that is hard to predict, possible hazards on the road, sharp turns we might not be aware of et c ) means always less time to react, and possibly higher forces acting during the crash. So yeah, Pavlin is right here.
    Also, from my limited experience: be a little - just a little - paranoid. Guys may not see you, they might be looking at their phones, they might get distracted. Try to be as aware of your surroundings as possible, and do not assume that everyone sees you and is going to ride in a simple, easy to predict way.

  • @woschtwas9101
    @woschtwas9101 8 місяців тому

    I agree on a lot of things, but cruise control is a must have for me, particularly if i have to ride a lot of highway.

  • @doatdove6061
    @doatdove6061 8 місяців тому

    Great clip Pavlin ,, useful as usual .. I have grown to like the cruise control on tar and only when conditions allow .. ❤

  • @robertkupper1327
    @robertkupper1327 8 місяців тому

    Sound advice as usual father Pavlin, I could not agree more with the steps you highlighted. Especially the one about don't ride outside of your ability level. Relax and enjoy the ride, look for mistakes from other drivers. After a while you will be able to anticipate others mistakes and direction changes long before they themselves make them just by observing the signs of how they react to the surrounding traffic. Keen observation coupled with patience equals defensive driving skills and this is what will keep us motorcyclists alive whilst others will not be so lucky. I've seen it happen time and time again. On the road we make our own luck. Keep up the good work father Pavlin. 👍

  • @xazakotr
    @xazakotr 8 місяців тому

    pure and correct, like always! thank you pawlin! i totally agree! most of them i'm following subconsciously after I reached 30+. before, like mostly everyone else, to much crazy hormones dictated the way of riding. fortunately i was lucky all the years. hope young and new riders will listen to your advices instead of their adrenaline, testosterone & co.!

  • @mtx_by_ovimoto
    @mtx_by_ovimoto 8 місяців тому

    Although I'm a big fan of Ryan's F9 channel, I skipped that episode the moment I saw the title, because I share the same opinion about motorcycle protective gear. Cheers mate!

  • @49Roadmaster
    @49Roadmaster 8 місяців тому

    Great advice. I saw Ryan's video and thought the exact same thing as you about hitting something hard. Yours was a perfect example why I will keep my pads in my jacket.
    I found while riding at least in Canada and the US to start early like you said and, if you haven't made reservations, be OFF the road BEFORE 4pm as the hotels, motels, and camp-sites are starting to fill up quickly after that.

  • @mohammednaseer374
    @mohammednaseer374 8 місяців тому

    100% agreed, very professional and experienced advices ! from Pakistan, keep it up !

  • @Twinstarrider
    @Twinstarrider 8 місяців тому

    Great info. We have same mount of years in saddle and all the points you made I follow, well like anything else I could do better in certain points! As always a great watch. Thanks!

  • @BlackThor15
    @BlackThor15 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for one of your best videos Pavlin, in my opinion Ryan should watch this one too! 👍👍

  • @KentStipp
    @KentStipp 8 місяців тому

    Great Video! I already practice some of those so the others are good food for thought. On protection when I was a kid starting out My mother who was an ER Nurse at the time told me “ Never ride without jacket gloves pants and a helmet. If yo crash I’ll have the doctor pull out the gravel 1 piece at a time “
    That has stuck with me ever since and I always ride with proper protection head to toe.
    I like yo watch Ryan. His videos are well thought out and informative. He was telling the science behind why companies do what they do With armor. Personally I always replace the armor with a much better set ( stems from my racing days).
    Anyways thanks great video. And if you ever head to Japan let me know.

  • @brianrodwell5163
    @brianrodwell5163 8 місяців тому

    Excellent advice, I find cruise control on a motorcycle the most disconcerting and dangerous thing ever.
    Very distracting trying!!!!

  • @mariiivanov3290
    @mariiivanov3290 8 місяців тому

    Very good advices Pavlin! All on point :) They are not for everyone, but ideal for the people who love to travel by bike...

  • @Mike.4639
    @Mike.4639 8 місяців тому +1

    Agree, excessive speed is perhaps the main factor. You forgot One very important, No Alchool or Drugs while driving. But its useless to tell this to many riders.

  • @robizaksson7760
    @robizaksson7760 8 місяців тому

    very clear video, like your tips a lot learned trough experience and common sense! tnx and lots of safe kilometers.!

  • @daverodgers9416
    @daverodgers9416 8 місяців тому

    Pavlin, you are a wise man and also make great videos! Thank you as always for sharing your knowledge and experience. Totally concur with your tips for safety. Also like the depart early; a stress reducer for sure.
    I watch Dan Dan the Fireman. He provides great commentary and videos and has taught me a thing or too, might be worth checking out if you haven't already.
    Take care brother and ride safe!

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      I appreciate that! I know DanDan, but it is not the type of content that I would like to watch.

  • @barryobrien1890
    @barryobrien1890 8 місяців тому +1

    I ride in South Asia, and I can honestly say that getting on a bike is dangerous..while you can control yourself, you cannot control the other idiots out there. My experience is to ride defensively in Asia. Let others do what they want and move out of the way. If you look for trouble you will find it. I see so many people ride without even a helmet, so safety equipment is very much optional but don't ignore it in my opinion. I am thinking of an airbag backpack for the neck brace as that's my greatest worry. So far no accidents but a few close calls with idiots not looking. I agree with Ryan that the pads make the riding gear uncomfortable so there is a chance to skip it on short trips. I think comfortable protective gear is the way to go as these pads are really for high speeds which I don't do, where an abrasion jacket works all the time. I use my bike for very short trips and it's a hassle to put on poor fitting protection gear

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @bjb7587
      @bjb7587 8 місяців тому

      I ride with a Hitair inflatable vest, which has a bunch of pockets on it, including one for the neck and one for the base of the spine. Bonus point that I removed the uncomfortable back pad, because the vest fully protects my back.

    • @barryobrien1890
      @barryobrien1890 8 місяців тому

      Yes I am hoping to get one. They don't sell them in India so I will have to wait for my next trip

  • @Boeckinger74080
    @Boeckinger74080 8 місяців тому

    Fully agree with your advice. It might sounds strange, I force my self to read the Police Reports in the newspaper about motorcycle accidents to understand what went wrong ,and to avoid to make the same wrong dessisions.

  • @adaptableadventurerider
    @adaptableadventurerider 8 місяців тому

    Another absolutely superb video Pavlin 110% agree with all the points you made. I will always wear the propper riding gear even just to take a bike round the block.
    I think Ryan's video sends a bad message any armour is better than none an as you say always buy the best you can.
    My dad's brother that raced Nortons always said to me 5 quid head 5 quid helmet buy the best you can.
    I remember being at a race shop over here on a 125 when I was first learning and the mechanic said full leathers arai bit over the top isn't it, dad replied what's the difference between 60mph on my gsxr or Tjs 125 an the guy didn't have an answer. Always dress for the slide I think you don't know until you need the saftey gear then you are glad of it.
    Always something new to learn :) an I wholeheartedly agree with all your points. 👍

  • @michealfanning3697
    @michealfanning3697 8 місяців тому

    Love your videos like yourself I use common sense in most areas of my life and it has served me well ,keep up the good work .

  • @mattkaymoto
    @mattkaymoto 8 місяців тому

    A few months ago I was exploring a trail on foot and tripped over a root and landed on my knees. I was wearing my motorcycle pants so I just got back up and kept going.
    A few days later I bumped my knee on my door frame chasing the dog and it hurt for a few days.
    I know if I go flying off the bike at 100 KPH that the knee pads will do very little, but helmets are only tested to something like 30 KPH and are mandatory in most places (in North America). I thought maybe Ryan's video was about increasing standards for armor, but he used some pretty flaky studies to make his point.

  • @danmercer214
    @danmercer214 8 місяців тому

    Great video. I practice almost every one of your tips. I live where winter is I only get half of year to practice and I take advantage of the summer.

  • @visionquest7870
    @visionquest7870 8 місяців тому

    Excellent advice.

  • @bradmorgan5722
    @bradmorgan5722 8 місяців тому

    Great advice - agree 100%.

  • @garysouthwell5762
    @garysouthwell5762 8 місяців тому

    Absolutely Brilliant Advice!

  • @LeytonC
    @LeytonC 8 місяців тому

    Great video! Even my very limited experience traveling on my bike plays out with everything you say! My riding gear cost about the same as the bike - and i have to say, i have Revit Gloves and jacket and they are great.

  • @outty77
    @outty77 8 місяців тому

    excellent lesson, thank you!

  • @cathyandgreg4239
    @cathyandgreg4239 8 місяців тому

    Body armour always, like wearing a helmet...100%. I am glad to learn the HORN technique of Asia. Here in Canada and USA it seems to be used more often as tool of rudeness and not courteous communication, now I understand. And third take away, always drive well rested, motorcycle or car...most folks have mishaps when tired! Anoither good informative video, cheers.

  • @MatsModén
    @MatsModén 8 місяців тому

    You tell the truth !good job !😊

  • @chrisbrown4396
    @chrisbrown4396 8 місяців тому

    Great vid mate. Yes indeed, always wear full riding gear, even on those two days of British summer. If it'd really hot you can always pour water on your t-shirt etc first. I believe this channel has a video on just that..

  • @TheUnsungVil
    @TheUnsungVil 8 місяців тому

    To me it boils down to „make it YOUR ride“… influence things you CAN (bike maintenance, gear, visibility to others, riding style, fitness, fatigue…) and simply adapt to the things you CANNOT influence (weather, road, traffic and local ‚customs‘ thereof…).

  • @COOLCABMAN
    @COOLCABMAN 8 місяців тому

    Amazin video.. I can't agree more.. With my personal experience as well

  • @boradatravel4503
    @boradatravel4503 8 місяців тому

    It’s called Road Craft. I practice it every time and you are right it will help keep you alive

  • @Szlejer
    @Szlejer 8 місяців тому

    Logic says both. Defensive riding is super important, but you can still crash if you do everything right. I got rammed by a car before and crashed, but I was unhurt because I wore full gear.

  • @jackkendahal254
    @jackkendahal254 8 місяців тому

    That reminds me of my small trip through Kerala that these royal enfields himalayan can't be trusted to say the least.
    Regarding Ryanf9 video : it seems to me it was more a call at the industry criticising the standards that are not that high in terms of crash protection, of course "low standards" is always better than nothing at all but I can tell you that I'd never ever try to do what I did on half pipe (rollerblades) with the protection I have in my motorcycle standard garment (except for the back protector and the helmet although a bit heavy).
    And of course as motorcycle afficionados expecting the industry to do better in terms of protection is something we should all contribute to :)

  • @CoinTradingBoy
    @CoinTradingBoy 5 місяців тому

    Listing Cruise Control as a distraction will trigger quite a few on here. IMHO, I totally agree; in a life-threatening situation, those couple of seconds for the Cruise Control to cancel, on top of the rider's reaction time, can be a live-or-die difference.

  • @TheWizardOfSanity
    @TheWizardOfSanity 8 місяців тому

    Very nice video, btw you should try to do some testrides before you go away on your next trip if there is machines available in your area (i think it would increase traffic to the channel just in time for the start of the season)

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      I do it when I have the chance, but never been my priority. Thanks, anyway!

  • @RichardBergeronmotorcycle
    @RichardBergeronmotorcycle 8 місяців тому

    Hi Pavel, I also did a lot of adventure travel. This summer I will have my US bike shipped to Marseilles to start the Silk Road. I will do it in steps since I can't leave for 6 months. My first leg will take me from Marseilles so Sofia in early September. If you are around let me know always like to meet fellow travelers.

  • @azizlenox
    @azizlenox 8 місяців тому

    I like the egg plates behind. Thank you for the video 👍🏼

  • @visovanioan2509
    @visovanioan2509 8 місяців тому +1

    O my first and only(thanks God) slide on asphalt in a tight turn with 30 km/h , i have slided on my right knee and elbow, i got up like i felt on pillows due to protection on my suit and continued my ride like nothing happened. It wouldn't be the same without pads....ofcourse in a 120km/h collision they won't make any difference..but i would never dare to ride without it.

  • @pal9878
    @pal9878 8 місяців тому

    Thanks, Pavlin 👍 Many good words.

  • @costasbolis3521
    @costasbolis3521 8 місяців тому

    Dear Pavlin
    I would like to ask your opinion about motorcycle airbags. I mainly talk not for the fancy insanely expensive hi-tech airbags but about mechanically activated ones that user can change co2 cartridge after deployment and use it again like hitair or helite.

  • @leiflindqvist9095
    @leiflindqvist9095 8 місяців тому

    I just want to agree 0n the protection, this is my comment on FortNine’s video. “Interesting statistics, but the reality may be different for the individual. I crashed pretty hard for the first time in decades last Friday. I was on my new Aprilia tuareg wearing a vest with all the protection, gloves with pads, good boots and so on. It is not often that I am so well protected…. When I look at the clothes after the crash, I don't need to be a scientist to understand the good they did. I will be more careful with protection in the future. After many years of working with technology and many bump tests, I also know that small amounts of damping material can make quite a difference to the g-forces.”

  • @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
    @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 8 місяців тому

    Cruise control and highway pegs actually help with fatigue and helps with concentration ( I’m not saying use all the time ) just to change your body position and giving you wrist and break.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      I can perfectly ride for many hours, days, and months without them! When I am tired, I just stop for a break.

    • @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
      @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 8 місяців тому

      @@motorcycleadventures , I have injuries, anything that keeps me riding longer all the better .

  • @jimwood1068
    @jimwood1068 8 місяців тому

    Good advice Pavlin. 👍🏼

  • @lausion74
    @lausion74 8 місяців тому

    Great content as always

  • @bunadrini
    @bunadrini 8 місяців тому

    As always, very informative, simple and straight to the point… Ping-ping: I’m next to you; Ping: I saw you 😂😂
    Only those who rode in central Asia, will get this.
    Cheers from Kosovo 🇽🇰

  • @johnDukemaster
    @johnDukemaster 8 місяців тому

    The Ryan film was released the 1/4. So I thought it was a joke.
    This film of yours however, is logical and well explained. Thank you!

  • @RandomGRK
    @RandomGRK 8 місяців тому

    What do you think about the airbag jackets like the new Alpinestars Tech air off-road?

  • @TheOriginalProfG
    @TheOriginalProfG 8 місяців тому

    My philosophy and 4 points I try to instill on my associates:
    1) Motorcycling is extremely safe as long as you remember it is extremely dangerous
    2) Ride as though you are invisible and that everyone is out to get you
    3) Always ride within your limitations. Do not assume you are invincible - you are not.
    4) It always happens to others. To others you are the others. (to someone else, you are the someone else)

  • @panayiotisgiannikos6337
    @panayiotisgiannikos6337 8 місяців тому

    Since my very early age, I had understood the importance of protection when riding a bike. I stole my first helmet from my uncle, who had left it on a wardrobe, because he bought it only for a trip and he never used it again. That was back in 1985, and since then, I never rode a bike without a helmet.
    Back then, unfortunately, riding gear like jackets and pants and gloves with protection were very hard to find, so all my accidents meant scratches and bruises and lots of pain, but I was lucky enough to never break a bone (until very later in my life) and my helmet protected my head whenever it touched the asphalt, also because the speeds were much less then than now; I was riding small bikes with very modest capabilities, although I managed to do 200,000km on my first Honda C50 (well, 72cc, actually).
    The first and only time I broke something was only 7 years ago, and that happened because I stepped very very hard on the tarmac, going with 80km/h, to prevent toppling, because I had to brake and swerve hard to avoid an idiot, and I lost control of my rear wheel. I ended up crashing to the asphalt, but my riding geat protected me from the burns and the scratches and probably broken elbows as my arms were flailing around while I was rolling on the road, but my leg was already broken from my effort to stay up, long before I even youched the ground.
    I don't know what came over Ryan and said what he said, but since then, most of the channels I follow have disagreed with him, one way or another. I think what he was trying to convey was the point that most cheap protections are shit and they won't do you any good when you need them, so you might as well get rid of them altogether. I believe that he should have followed what he said with the suggestion to replace useless cheap protections with some aftermarket proper ones.
    Regarding your points with the preventive kind of riding/driving/walking, I will absolutely agree, hands down. When I get off the bike, I am high on adrenaline, not because I was riding fast or doing any sort of actobatics on the road, but because I was playing chess with the other vehicles I share the roads with. I am always trying to predict many moves ahead what everyone around me will do, where they will put me in danger, where they will do something stupid that will cascade to the drivers/riders around them and what those might do as a reaction, and how al; these moves will affect me, how will I respond, and what I will need to be aware and take care of while responding. That gives me an adrenaline high and a headache, if I ride for more than half an hour, and usually in Athens I most probably will indeed have to ride for such amounts of time, so it's very usual for me to need a few meinutes to calm down each time I get off the bike. But it has saved me countless times. I have seen so many times what heppened and said "wow, here is where/when I might have had an accident, just now!".
    I do not have much experience with very long trips that take more than 3-4 days, and I ride with my wife in the back for most of the times, but we have done our share of medium-range trips, varying from 100 to 400 km in a day, for a few days, in mixed styles (highways, small roads, mountain roads, off-road, no-roads, etc.) and in various conditions (extreme heat, rain, snow, high winds). But what you say it's true. A general plan with a goal always helps. Of course, some times you will need to deviate, either because it's impossible to continue with the road you planned, or because you found an idyllic place for a pic nick or a beautiful beach to take a dive (that's why we travel) or because you met some interesting fellow travellers or locals and you want to spend some time with them and drink some rakias and exchange stories, or because one of us or both got tired and we need to change the destination and cut the day short. It can happen. But the general plan with its goal stays the same, and, if you have allowed some deviations or down-time in your general plan, it will not seriously affect neither the average time you have given to your trip, nor its final destination, nor the general pleasure you get from the whole trip. So yes to planning, no to overplanning.
    Once again, thanks for this video and I really do hope that some people - even one, as you say - hears your advice.

  • @advdmatic
    @advdmatic 8 місяців тому

    Bravo Pavlin. U svemu se slažem. 👍

  • @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449
    @itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 8 місяців тому

    I personally don’t think he was saying it was useless ( when you look at in prospective overall ) I just think he was saying it’s not as good as what is advertised or our perception . My brother in law recently had a high side bike crash off road and damaged his shoulder - he was wearing Level 2 D30 armour . I agree ☝️ he said it’s probably good in an off we’re you slide , that’s why he rates the airbag vest “ that’s why you cannot do Rallies like Daker without them because they know they work and save lives .

  • @kieranfitzpatrick3161
    @kieranfitzpatrick3161 8 місяців тому

    Three days riding recently and my GoreTex jacket covered in dead bugs … how best to travel ? Ride three days then stop for a day wash and treatment and continue ?

  • @dolbydarma
    @dolbydarma 8 місяців тому

    Great content as always. I’d just add some Hi-Vis gear to this list 👍

  • @radovicdragan
    @radovicdragan 8 місяців тому

    Was F9 video published on April 1st?

  • @alanbeamer9513
    @alanbeamer9513 8 місяців тому

    I like your comment to ride at a speed YOU can control, and not to copy others. I also like to ride at a speed so I can stop WITHIN the distance that is clear in front of me, AND on MY side of the road!!

  • @samsaab1225
    @samsaab1225 8 місяців тому

    …and not loose gear as the protection might move and hit your protected limbs. It happened to me in my elbow :/
    Again Nice topic and I like recently your gentle way of communicating with other youtubers ;)

  • @Desert_cat_adv
    @Desert_cat_adv 8 місяців тому

    I watched his video also.. what i understood from him was even if you wear full gear dont think you wont break bones.. so just keep that in mind. I dont think he meant dont wear anything in return..
    i had 3 accidents
    First with full safety jacket and jeans.. 100kmph into a circle slide.. my jeans got destroyed so as all my skin on my knees and butt 🥲 but my chest and back was all good..
    second accident was a wheelie at around 130kmph.. full gear.. the only think that happened was crushed fingers and my back got scratched up becase the jacket went up..
    my third accident a month ago i flew off my adventure bike in sand. It was from whoops. I have no video or any memory from that day.. but i had full boots knee protectors and padded shorts with chest and back protectors. I blew up my shoulder which had no safety on.. 10 screws later and a titanium plate.. im good now.. so yes I BELIEVE in safety gear.. even if the numbers arent good ..

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your bad experience! It might help to many.

  • @boomdawg56
    @boomdawg56 8 місяців тому

    The numbers never lie, but the statistics can be whatever you want if you ask the right questions. I started riding on dirt bikes when I was 4 years old and riding on the street when I was 16. I find myself listening to some of the videos and thinking the author is crazy, until I realize I have been doing exactly what they are saying for years. One thing I am noticing that seems to be important for safety is to pay attention to rear view mirrors. My one accident riding on the street was to get rear ended by another motorcycle. When you speed up, slow down, turn, or stop, always check what is behind you. There are more distracted drivers than ever with navigation systems, cell phones , and just a general lack of driving experience.

  • @theodorstravels
    @theodorstravels 8 місяців тому

    F9 did have some math flaws in his justifications too. So best taken with a grain of salt. / That honking in Asia is really helpful. I learned to understand the signals really quickly and intuitively and by the end of my trip there, even used my horn couple of times, when I thought I was not visible to a car driver.

  • @gbner9991
    @gbner9991 8 місяців тому

    Pavlin, since you mentioned it, it would be interesting to hear about the bikes you had through the years 😄

  • @VLAD-fr9tf
    @VLAD-fr9tf 8 місяців тому

    The protective gear is not meant to save you from an extreme situation but a high energy damage to the body can become a reasonably fast curable damage in case of using protection which is a big difference. The best protection remains your brain, for that I suppose it needs good intel so a comfortable helmet with a large field of view is mandatory, a body gear must be also comfortable since fatigue is another great enemy, in fact, fatigue and cold tend to make the rider agitated and eager to finalize the trip as soon as possible and this is a recipe for disaster, so even a small windshield, heated vest, handles and seat could save your life.... (of course just ...my 2 cents) :)

  • @arainmk
    @arainmk 8 місяців тому

    Imagine me, living in Lahore Pakistan and my bike did not have a functioning horn for over a year. so frustrating. But absense of a horn make your riding even more preventive, because you know you cannot signal your location anymore.

  • @franklee6452
    @franklee6452 8 місяців тому

    Fair enough.!

  • @tonygolding2274
    @tonygolding2274 8 місяців тому

    Great video again 👍 All the gear all the time 💪👍👏😎🙋🏻‍♂️

    • @daddystu7046
      @daddystu7046 8 місяців тому

      Well lets not take it to extremes :) Maybe as much gear as you can wear without feeling uncomfortable.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому

      Whatever works for you!

  • @macdaddy258
    @macdaddy258 8 місяців тому

    Couldn’t agree more!! That’s why I ride in a tank top, shorts and flip flops…

  • @chhiparidersahmedabad.2022
    @chhiparidersahmedabad.2022 8 місяців тому

    Yes , Sir. Safety is an illusion.
    One have to be on a Trek & not on a Track.

  • @rustyspiker3569
    @rustyspiker3569 8 місяців тому

    Great advice! You’re a great Ambassador from my point of view from America. I really learn allot about Eastern countries you visit. Especially Russia. I could easily bring my Tiger and ride over there and feel right at home with the people and motorcycle community. Too bad government leaders from all countries don’t watch your channel. The people would pass the pancakes while governments wants to pass the bullets. Makes no sense. Take care and looking forward to your next advenature.

    • @motorcycleadventures
      @motorcycleadventures  8 місяців тому +1

      It is what it is!

    • @rustyspiker3569
      @rustyspiker3569 8 місяців тому

      Yes it is. I treat people like I want to be treated so works for me. Really like your channel. Have a great summer of riding!