Yes I agree with this guy thats why I use bits of helping side ...or compensate by hitting slightly thinner - pace also has an effect because of what he said but this is only corrected by repeating the shots and table time in practice and a lot of the top players have locked in the memory of potting balls repeatedly without knowing why or how to describe this as they use there muscle memory after replicating the shots and angles over and over. He is correct. This is why the GB method is flawed in most of the coaching explanations out there because the players that think they use it are actually compensating while they use the method. Also he is correct about club balls and the pro game because of the table conditions and balls which are different from the pro game and the effect is lesser because of cleaner balls and thinner nap on tables - this is also something snooker coaches online forget to mention because they normally play on better conditions and its not as much of a factor and they forget most club players play on ordinary tables where this use of helping side is more of a factor. This is why it can be more difficult going from club conditions onto a pro table. The balls are better heavier and cleaner the cloth is thinner faster with heated bed and more reactive the cushions are steel blocked more reactive and its a totally different game and you dont need to hit as hard. Bad or slow playing tables can actually destroy your game unless you can adapt well because players get subconciously used to playing conditions this is why the top players need to re cloth tables a lot and try and replicate tournament conditions which is very hard and expensive to do. You can learn to adapt but the pros actually play a totally different game to most everyone else because of these conditions. Interesting to see more of this guys explanations of how he overcomes these things.
Hi Brando, great video,,,,i use to miss shots because of this all the time,,,,but i cant explain how i adjusted to compensate for it,,,somehow i just do it when the shot needs it.... i obviously am aiming thinner than perfect angle,,,but not on all shots, its like i have just automatically (sub-conciously) corrected the shot without thinking about it....maybe just from experience,,, it feels more instinctive than an actual thought process......look forward to the next video about the black,,,,they are not going to be easy to make,,,,,i think it will be difficult to explain without it becoming confusing....keep up the good work buddy....thank you.
i sussed this out myself and only been playing a few years !! i also learned you have to adjust for top spin and screw shots slightly or you will miss the same angle thick or thin depending on where you strike the cue ball i’m still getting used to it and it gets confusing
What about draw shot, does it have the same effect of minimizing C.I.T. on the Object ball as the top spin shot? Self taught and used draw shot which I believe kept the OB straighter. Thx!!
I am the opposite. I don't use draw too much but when I do I miss pretty badly. I'm a pretty good shot but I can see something is different. Dr. Dave said somewhere that a draw/stun has no CIT but I'm not sure.
can you please tell me which hip do you sit on when you are about go to down ? i think i over turn my hip or i might be sitting on wrong hip, my cue butt is always to the left of line of aim, offline. and i am sure the hip is causing it, do you sit on your right hip or left hip ? my right leg (leading leg) from behind looks like this \ and lots of gap between grip hand and the trouser pocket. please help me thank you
Thank you for the video and confirming the throw ,squeeze whatever it is called. I myself miss the black thick just like you showed in the video. I always thought I was not aiming properly or cueing badly or that I was not lining up properly or if I think I lined up properly I didn't deliver properly, when all along it was simply not accounting for the throw/squeeze/deflection that ends the break when you least expect it . Many thanks . Appreciate your content. Cheers
So ghost method not working all the time and if it’s makes deflection or through , so how correct this ? Am assuming use a tiny left handset side or position the potting angle to the right juu of pocket , but again depend on shot speed slow medium hard or stun shots
I'm sorry but I just tried this experiment both in general aiming and the trick setup in the first video and I found that pace or top or bottom spin made no difference to the trajectory of the contact ball. I think there maybe a few issues going on here which are very important understand if you're missing shots like in these two videos. The first is in my experience most contact ball deflection happens due unwanted side spin imparted on the white ball. With the trick setup in the first video I was able to get the contact ball to miss on either side simply by adding side spin to the white ball. It's also important to note that white ball deflection due to unwanted side spin will vary depending on the pace and also the errors in your cue action can vary depending on how you stroke or time the ball which might explain why Brando potted his medium top spin shot well. Another issue is with the ghost ball method where it's very important to remember that when sighting the white ball will be hitting the contact ball on the side of the white and if you're hitting the ball thick it could be because you are aiming the centre of the white at the aiming point on the contact ball. It's hard to judge as I'm looking through a camera view but it looked like with Brando's soft shots it looked like he was aiming thick. Another issue to watch out for is not cueing through the white ball, a lot of shots I see missed (including mine) are due to jabbing at the white ball. I know I've been guilty of all these issues and hope that some of the things I've learnt from working on my own game may help others here figure out some of the reasons why they miss as well.
I am angry too! For all the time I've wasted on the ghost ball method, it should be ignored, it is total rubbish. I started 4 years ago, and thought that the GBM was the most logical way to approach aiming. Most coaches (not Brando) tell us, + players like Steven Hendry, to aim at that point in line with the pocket, and talk about the ghost ball, but it doesn't work, which Brando demonstrates perfectly. My coach kept telling me to aim at the ghost ball and trust my aim. Both of these things were totally wrong. The GB is obviously wrong, but also my aim was faulty (I know that now since I started accounting for throw), and I saw shots thinner than they are in reality. Since I discovered Brandos videos I understand what should happen with throw, and when I accounted for my dodgy aiming on top, I started to pot more consistently. I put 30+ on my breaks thanks to Brando over the last 3 months. This is seriously good stuff.
I speechless! ALMOST EVERY TRAINING VIDEO TEACHER THE GHOST METHOD! I'm new at this. Being taught the truth is important. Thank you! I'm so mad at all the people teaching this wrong!
how to find vision center is this method correct Put your cue in front of you vertically Find an object far away, like a piece of chalk Stare at the object. Your cue should blur out Keep the object in the center of that blur, and move your face towards your cue Where the cue makes contact with your face is your vision center does it work?
@@SnookerCoachBrando This is a very interesting video for me. So aiming could be where im going wrong instead of technique. This coyld explain why I miss to the right and when I play the spots with the cueball the cueball comes back to the right.
I do like your video where you try to explain the throw effect on the object bal. But, you are using the wrong expressions. What you are talkiung about is the trow effect. to be even more precisely the C.I.T. (Cut Induced Throw) There is also S.I.T. (Spin Induced Throw, where the objectballs path is thrown off its line bij the friction caused by spin effect on the ceu ball. Deflection, on the other hand, is something completely different. It is the deflection of the cue balls path when hit with sidespin. For more information about this search for DrDaveBilliards on youtube and his topics about throw and deflection. Hope this helps. Greetings, John
Yes I agree with this guy thats why I use bits of helping side ...or compensate by hitting slightly thinner - pace also has an effect because of what he said but this is only corrected by repeating the shots and table time in practice and a lot of the top players have locked in the memory of potting balls repeatedly without knowing why or how to describe this as they use there muscle memory after replicating the shots and angles over and over. He is correct. This is why the GB method is flawed in most of the coaching explanations out there because the players that think they use it are actually compensating while they use the method. Also he is correct about club balls and the pro game because of the table conditions and balls which are different from the pro game and the effect is lesser because of cleaner balls and thinner nap on tables - this is also something snooker coaches online forget to mention because they normally play on better conditions and its not as much of a factor and they forget most club players play on ordinary tables where this use of helping side is more of a factor. This is why it can be more difficult going from club conditions onto a pro table. The balls are better heavier and cleaner the cloth is thinner faster with heated bed and more reactive the cushions are steel blocked more reactive and its a totally different game and you dont need to hit as hard. Bad or slow playing tables can actually destroy your game unless you can adapt well because players get subconciously used to playing conditions this is why the top players need to re cloth tables a lot and try and replicate tournament conditions which is very hard and expensive to do. You can learn to adapt but the pros actually play a totally different game to most everyone else because of these conditions. Interesting to see more of this guys explanations of how he overcomes these things.
Great video! Thats first time i hear explanation of this effect in a clean manner.
Hi Brando, great video,,,,i use to miss shots because of this all the time,,,,but i cant explain how i adjusted to compensate for it,,,somehow i just do it when the shot needs it.... i obviously am aiming thinner than perfect angle,,,but not on all shots, its like i have just automatically (sub-conciously) corrected the shot without thinking about it....maybe just from experience,,, it feels more instinctive than an actual thought process......look forward to the next video about the black,,,,they are not going to be easy to make,,,,,i think it will be difficult to explain without it becoming confusing....keep up the good work buddy....thank you.
Wow ty very much that explains why I miss thick or opposite side of table thin but I never miss a dead straight shot. Thought it was my technique
i sussed this out myself and only been playing a few years !! i also learned you have to adjust for top spin and screw shots slightly or you will miss the same angle thick or thin depending on where you strike the cue ball i’m still getting used to it and it gets confusing
What about draw shot, does it have the same effect of minimizing C.I.T. on the Object ball as the top spin shot?
Self taught and used draw shot which I believe kept the OB straighter. Thx!!
I am the opposite. I don't use draw too much but when I do I miss pretty badly. I'm a pretty good shot but I can see something is different. Dr. Dave said somewhere that a draw/stun has no CIT but I'm not sure.
can you please tell me which hip do you sit on when you are about go to down ?
i think i over turn my hip or i might be sitting on wrong hip, my cue butt is always to the left of line of aim, offline.
and i am sure the hip is causing it, do you sit on your right hip or left hip ? my right leg (leading leg) from behind looks like this \ and lots of gap between grip hand and the trouser pocket.
please help me
thank you
Thank you for the video and confirming the throw ,squeeze whatever it is called.
I myself miss the black thick just like you showed in the video. I always thought I was not aiming properly or cueing badly or that I was not lining up properly or if I think I lined up properly I didn't deliver properly, when all along it was simply not accounting for the throw/squeeze/deflection that ends the break when you least expect it .
Many thanks . Appreciate your content. Cheers
But how do we get over this??
Side
Thanks! - Can't wait to see the rest
Thank you again Brando for this excellent video. It's great to know your explanations, very very helpful.
So ghost method not working all the time and if it’s makes deflection or through , so how correct this ? Am assuming use a tiny left handset side or position the potting angle to the right juu of pocket , but again depend on shot speed slow medium hard or stun shots
Very,Very,Very good vídeo.Thanks
I'm sorry but I just tried this experiment both in general aiming and the trick setup in the first video and I found that pace or top or bottom spin made no difference to the trajectory of the contact ball.
I think there maybe a few issues going on here which are very important understand if you're missing shots like in these two videos.
The first is in my experience most contact ball deflection happens due unwanted side spin imparted on the white ball.
With the trick setup in the first video I was able to get the contact ball to miss on either side simply by adding side spin to the white ball.
It's also important to note that white ball deflection due to unwanted side spin will vary depending on the pace and also the errors in your cue action can vary depending on how you stroke or time the ball which might explain why Brando potted his medium top spin shot well.
Another issue is with the ghost ball method where it's very important to remember that when sighting the white ball will be hitting the contact ball on the side of the white and if you're hitting the ball thick it could be because you are aiming the centre of the white at the aiming point on the contact ball.
It's hard to judge as I'm looking through a camera view but it looked like with Brando's soft shots it looked like he was aiming thick.
Another issue to watch out for is not cueing through the white ball, a lot of shots I see missed (including mine) are due to jabbing at the white ball.
I know I've been guilty of all these issues and hope that some of the things I've learnt from working on my own game may help others here figure out some of the reasons why they miss as well.
Brilliant video Brandon. I miss these slow blacks a lot. I've always thought there must be some explanation. Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video...thank you!!
Extremely well explain
Good tips, especially long shot!
U r right 100 percent, that tells u how jimmy white always misses the high black which costed him world championship and other tournaments
Very good explanation and great example , thnx a lot
Just a moment to appreciate the facilities at this club. where is this? Might have to weave the location iinto our summer hols next year 😊
Yes, stunning set up there. Doesn't say on his site.
I am angry too! For all the time I've wasted on the ghost ball method, it should be ignored, it is total rubbish. I started 4 years ago, and thought that the GBM was the most logical way to approach aiming. Most coaches (not Brando) tell us, + players like Steven Hendry, to aim at that point in line with the pocket, and talk about the ghost ball, but it doesn't work, which Brando demonstrates perfectly. My coach kept telling me to aim at the ghost ball and trust my aim. Both of these things were totally wrong. The GB is obviously wrong, but also my aim was faulty (I know that now since I started accounting for throw), and I saw shots thinner than they are in reality. Since I discovered Brandos videos I understand what should happen with throw, and when I accounted for my dodgy aiming on top, I started to pot more consistently. I put 30+ on my breaks thanks to Brando over the last 3 months. This is seriously good stuff.
thanks for the video!
can't wait part3 what day do u upload the video?
you have helpd me alot.
It might take a month
excellent explanation🎉
I speechless! ALMOST EVERY TRAINING VIDEO TEACHER THE GHOST METHOD! I'm new at this. Being taught the truth is important. Thank you! I'm so mad at all the people teaching this wrong!
Do not be so mad. Many are teaching wrong because they just don’t know about the throw effect..
Great Great Brando....✌✌
Very good video. Cheers
Thanks Brando... your videos are really helpful to improve my game!
Top spin minimizes throw. How about back spin, does draw shot medium pace also minimize throw?
Not as much as top spin
Im pretty sure there isn't a player in top 100 in the world that uses the ghost ball method. Great video 👍
Why? I use it. Is that bad?
@@sj460162 it's not very reliable or accurate and there are much better methods out there.
Hendry certainly never has.
Big thanks Brando
Fantastic
how to find vision center is this method correct
Put your cue in front of you vertically
Find an object far away, like a piece of chalk
Stare at the object. Your cue should blur out
Keep the object in the center of that blur, and move your face towards your cue
Where the cue makes contact with your face is your vision center
does it work?
No. Have a look at my sighting video
On angled shot I line up then move my foot slightly more so it looks to me I’m over cutting a little it’s working 😀
This is why people use 'helping side'
Problem with helping side is you may run out of position.
Thanks for a useful video
So if we hit all balls firmer and harder there is less deflection Brando?
Well yeah, nice positive shots are better in general.
@@SnookerCoachBrando This is a very interesting video for me. So aiming could be where im going wrong instead of technique. This coyld explain why I miss to the right and when I play the spots with the cueball the cueball comes back to the right.
when we hit slow our arm is not as smooth :) I think it also depends on the cloth plus as you said the cleanliness of balls
please make more video
Part 3????
Grt
Slow stun most dangerous but most important
Yep, very useful shot
Like the game wasn't difficult enough already 😵💫
Wow
As beginner I’m always missing thick on the business end of the table… this is revelation for a regular club player, thank you Coach!!
I do like your video where you try to explain the throw effect on the object bal. But, you are using the wrong expressions. What you are talkiung about is the trow effect. to be even more precisely the C.I.T. (Cut Induced Throw) There is also S.I.T. (Spin Induced Throw, where the objectballs path is thrown off its line bij the friction caused by spin effect on the ceu ball. Deflection, on the other hand, is something completely different. It is the deflection of the cue balls path when hit with sidespin. For more information about this search for DrDaveBilliards on youtube and his topics about throw and deflection. Hope this helps. Greetings, John
no he is using the right terms the ametricans call it differently....snooker aint a american game
different terms but he explained it very well and detailed . I learned a lot from this guy
Again wait? Mannn..