The GT3 with a six manual is every car enthusiast dream. relatively low weight, rwd, manual transmission, high revving, great sound, looks, and best of all thr response of a naturally aspirated engine.
Agreed. Driving is about the whole experience. Manual and PDK/DCT just offer different experiences. Both good. Like do you want a white, red or yellow GT3?
Buy a performance car to drive on the street, but always brag about faster lap time by PDK as an excuse to not having a manual; but actually spend more time at the golf course than the track. If you really care and actually enjoy driving for real, it's the manual every time.
Sadly, 70% of customers who are getting the GT3 have ordered the PDK and only 30% have ordered theirs with a manual. But that 30% will be having allot more fun than the 70% who are busy bragging about their 0-60 times and MPG with their associates at the golf course.
That’s actually incorrect for 991.2 GT3 ordering status up until this point. It’s 53% manual vs 47% PDK. There maybe more .2 GT3 PDK out there on the roads now and that’s because Porsche only had started producing 6-speed .2 GT3 very recently. As for entire lifecycle of .2 GT3, I still think there will be more PDK than Manual, from what my local dealers are telling, it’s the most difficult to get a .2 GT3 with touring package (only available with 6-speed manual)
If I were head of Porsche I would release a GT3 5.0 with 650 horsepower and 5 frikkin liters of German boxer motoring perfection. What a beast it would be!
would be a disaster i bet. too much power. unless it was a mid engine design or had some all wheel drive. the traction control light flashes on this things dash with some simple spirited driving around town! cant imagine more power!
The only weak spot of a GT3 is low torque in low RPM range. The manual accentuates that weakness. Porsche knew this and the PDK is the perfect answer, for that. But a bunch of people who haven’t had GT3 s in the first place whined about no manual so Porsche responded. Those will be the people getting passed on the track by the PDK version. I’ve had 3 and the ONLY problem was being in the wrong gear at the wrong time at the wrong part of the corner, WITH the manual. The PDK takes care of this and with it it’s almost perfect
I'm a porsche guy and ended up buying a ferrari 360 Modena Manual 6speed because i won't pay 180K for a 2018 GT3 in manual and i definitely don't want the 2014+ PDK and i already had a 997 as my daily driver for 4 years and was sick of 997 even if this time it would be a Gt3 - Love the Ferrari, but of course it isn't a 911 which is what i really ultimately want to be back in again
Great review guys! You really connect with the car and very humorously and passionately lay it all out for all us GT3-obsessed people to consume! Keep it up!
I agree with you. 😊 “BuT aUtO hAs BeTTeR LaP TiMeS aNd 0-100 TiMeS! WhY wOuLd A SuPeRcAr UsE a mAnUaL?” said the stupid non car kids. Like shut the hell up, I want to have fun, I don’t care about lap times or 0-100.😒
I’m a manual fan but It’s funny because even though they finally offered the manual......over 85% of the new GT3’s have been ordered with PDK. Many people have ordered the manual and last second, changed to PDK.
well done video thanks for doing it. funny as heck and useful, loved it. it was one if the factors that helped motivate me to snag one of these when it became available locally, suddenly, when owner opted not to take ownership of it at the dealership. i only had a few days to quickly make a decision or it would have moved quickly... gotta say, best manual and best car for that matter i have ever driven, what a joy. thanks again !
Please be quiet .. we need to hear the engine sound. I swear god that I opened the video for the sound not for the review .. and GT3 is sick .. what ever hp or gearbox it has! Porsche FTW 😍
1:20 SMFH "They have not offered this car with a manual gearbox ever"... SIGH its the exact opposite. 996, 997 .1 & .2 GT3 all had manual ONLY. 991 was the first year it was not offered with manual.
But all GT3s had a manual, this 991.2 GT3 which also has a Manual they only did a PDK only for the 991.1 GT3, so saying its the first GT3 for years with a manual is false since its still the 991 series when the GT3 comes 1 year after the new series (991 started 2012, GT3 and Turbo came 2013), its not like Porsche went 5 gens and brought it back, they brought it back mid refresh.
It goes round and round. PDK, manual, PDK only and now manual again. You know when chief engineers are talking about weights savings around 1Kg here and there, that there is nothing better than in the past. Its just another GT3... and they will try it over and over again to make it "better". What ever this means nowadays?!?
This isn't Matt Farah. Let's keep it that way. ;) He's a great host but also writes amazingly. Enjoying him more than Jeremy in the 90s and Matt's much more real!
One of the most ultimate driving machines ever built with the manual...by modern standards anyway. Would be amazing to procure one in the short future...kind of got my eyes set on an ACR though....cheaper...meaner...shittier...but f it.
just got my 2018 gt3 poster and hung it on my wall. i am 44 still buying posters i can never afford a real one. never even been in a Porsche or in a neighborhood with them. grew up reading rag car magazines though.
Wtf are you taking about? The manual is just more engaging. You dont lose power with the pdk. The 1mph higher top speed for the manual is simply a gear decision made by Porsche to achieve certain benchmarks with the PDK.
you guys dont know shiii the only reason they didnt gave you a manual first is cause porshe are genius at biulding cars and geniuses at taking peoples money
I agree, I've driven manuals for 17 years now, still drive one, and I hate it. You can only love a manual if you don't have to deal with it all the time
True car enthusiasts won't buy a GT3, they are way to heavy and soft core True car enthusiast wants ~1200lbs, no power steering, no TC, no abs, no brake booster, no luggage space, no sound deadning, no nothing
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown If what you say is true then nobody would buy PDK's and the manufacturers wouldn't have stopped making manuals, the fact is everybody buys PDK's now.
Law19157 That’s only bragging wealthy dudes. Many people don’t buy the manual for speed omg or convenience, but to have fun. Nostalgia is not nonsense, it’s a thing that normal people feel. If you want the PDK, go for it. Just try to remember that when we buy the manuals, we just want to have fun, okay? Have a nice day.
Oh, what a surprise. Another car channel whose presenters are doing a poor impression of old Top Gear's witty English camaraderie bromance. Please STOP.
These guys have no business on camera. Zero charisma, can't take them seriously, can't even stand listening to them. Who at Road and Track with decision making clout allowed this to happen???
The GT3 with a six manual is every car enthusiast dream. relatively low weight, rwd, manual transmission, high revving, great sound, looks, and best of all thr response of a naturally aspirated engine.
Yeah !!
I agree. I've always wanted a gt3 with the 6 speed mansmission. But until I can afford it, my 6 speed 350z settles the craving
I had a 350Z .. Don't ever test drive a Porsche.. It will make the Nissan feel like a lorry :( Sadly.
MagicAyrtonforever I'll wait tll I have cash in hand then.lol
Agreed. Driving is about the whole experience. Manual and PDK/DCT just offer different experiences. Both good. Like do you want a white, red or yellow GT3?
Buy a performance car to drive on the street, but always brag about faster lap time by PDK as an excuse to not having a manual; but actually spend more time at the golf course than the track.
If you really care and actually enjoy driving for real, it's the manual every time.
Crime not to track these cars. PDK or manual
Sadly, 70% of customers who are getting the GT3 have ordered the PDK and only 30% have ordered theirs with a manual. But that 30% will be having allot more fun than the 70% who are busy bragging about their 0-60 times and MPG with their associates at the golf course.
That number have jumped higher than 30% now ..thank god
That's great news indeed!
source?
That’s actually incorrect for 991.2 GT3 ordering status up until this point. It’s 53% manual vs 47% PDK.
There maybe more .2 GT3 PDK out there on the roads now and that’s because Porsche only had started producing 6-speed .2 GT3 very recently.
As for entire lifecycle of .2 GT3, I still think there will be more PDK than Manual, from what my local dealers are telling, it’s the most difficult to get a .2 GT3 with touring package (only available with 6-speed manual)
My dealer can built whatever you want so the touring package is not hard to get if you have an allocation.
Glad to see Porsche got a damn clue from the crazy demand for the 911R + Cayman GT4 to put a damn stick in their GT models again...
These are the same dorks in the Sonic commercials.
LMFAO.
If I were head of Porsche I would release a GT3 5.0 with 650 horsepower and 5 frikkin liters of German boxer motoring perfection. What a beast it would be!
would be a disaster i bet. too much power. unless it was a mid engine design or had some all wheel drive. the traction control light flashes on this things dash with some simple spirited driving around town! cant imagine more power!
westpalmdoc can’t imagine why it would be a disaster. Many tuned German 911s already have in excess of 750 and they are fantastic.
you would not need 5 liters. you can make 650 with a lot less
I would also make a Porsche GT3 RS Enthusiast Edition, with a 6 speed manual😏😎
I get it with these guys. The car is soooo good that you go nutso :)
Who are these ding dongs?
Hi
christopher bellisario hahahha hahahaha so true.
Exactly what I was thinking
Travis Okulski hi
The driver is Sam Smith. You should read his writing. Truly awesome. Save the snarkiness-everyone does it and it's just cheap.
Im a idiot and drive fast can i review cars too?
The only weak spot of a GT3 is low torque in low RPM range. The manual accentuates that weakness. Porsche knew this and the PDK is the perfect answer, for that. But a bunch of people who haven’t had GT3 s in the first place whined about no manual so Porsche responded. Those will be the people getting passed on the track by the PDK version. I’ve had 3 and the ONLY problem was being in the wrong gear at the wrong time at the wrong part of the corner, WITH the manual. The PDK takes care of this and with it it’s almost perfect
I'm a porsche guy and ended up buying a ferrari 360 Modena Manual 6speed because i won't pay 180K for a 2018 GT3 in manual and i definitely don't want the 2014+ PDK and i already had a 997 as my daily driver for 4 years and was sick of 997 even if this time it would be a Gt3 - Love the Ferrari, but of course it isn't a 911 which is what i really ultimately want to be back in again
That car with the manual transmission is a dream
Manual, 2wd... yummy real fun. Dual clutch and awd are automotive equivalents of prozac - forced fun.
Fantastic review you two! Fun, entertaining and informative! You have the natural ability to keep the viewer engaged, keep them coming.
Amen, Manuals forever. Well done. Im getting a 991.1 GTS cause I still need a backseat but this is next.
Great review guys! You really connect with the car and very humorously and passionately lay it all out for all us GT3-obsessed people to consume! Keep it up!
I liked these guys. Love the car!
I would still rather the manual just for the experience of the car, driving on track is one part but on the road I would prefer a manual.
I agree with you. 😊 “BuT aUtO hAs BeTTeR LaP TiMeS aNd 0-100 TiMeS! WhY wOuLd A SuPeRcAr UsE a mAnUaL?” said the stupid non car kids. Like shut the hell up, I want to have fun, I don’t care about lap times or 0-100.😒
I’m a manual fan but It’s funny because even though they finally offered the manual......over 85% of the new GT3’s have been ordered with PDK. Many people have ordered the manual and last second, changed to PDK.
They’re right. Amazing at any speed! Long live the GT3 manual!
My dream car Porsche 911 GT3 in Yellow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well done video thanks for doing it. funny as heck and useful, loved it. it was one if the factors that helped motivate me to snag one of these when it became available locally, suddenly, when owner opted not to take ownership of it at the dealership. i only had a few days to quickly make a decision or it would have moved quickly... gotta say, best manual and best car for that matter i have ever driven, what a joy. thanks again !
Good video. Surprised it didn't beat the 720s as car of the year for r and t
joe sa do u know what 720s cost and for that they have GT2RS the widow maker monster
i saw a GT3 yesterday, but not sure the year. it sounded sick though
Please be quiet .. we need to hear the engine sound.
I swear god that I opened the video for the sound not for the review .. and GT3 is sick .. what ever hp or gearbox it has!
Porsche FTW 😍
1:20 SMFH "They have not offered this car with a manual gearbox ever"... SIGH its the exact opposite. 996, 997 .1 & .2 GT3 all had manual ONLY. 991 was the first year it was not offered with manual.
this car= the 991. thats what they meant...
But all GT3s had a manual, this 991.2 GT3 which also has a Manual they only did a PDK only for the 991.1 GT3, so saying its the first GT3 for years with a manual is false since its still the 991 series when the GT3 comes 1 year after the new series (991 started 2012, GT3 and Turbo came 2013), its not like Porsche went 5 gens and brought it back, they brought it back mid refresh.
So many smiles when driving a manual. :D
My desk resonated at 3:04
Dream car, one hundred percent.
Best super ever. Man that's sweet if I had that car I wouldn't sleep I would stay up all night just cleaning it dusting it off.
funny you said that. lucky enough to have one- awaken at like 5a on weekends to thoroughly clean it. wife thinks i am obsessed
new channel?
Did you get the one without A/C?
More more more GT3 Manual ... review the Touring in the canyons and backroads
It goes round and round. PDK, manual, PDK only and now manual again. You know when chief engineers are talking about weights savings around 1Kg here and there, that there is nothing better than in the past. Its just another GT3... and they will try it over and over again to make it "better". What ever this means nowadays?!?
Manual car or no car because life needs mor fun.
This isn't Matt Farah. Let's keep it that way. ;) He's a great host but also writes amazingly. Enjoying him more than Jeremy in the 90s and Matt's much more real!
I feel bad for the people who paid half a million dollars for a 911r
One of the most ultimate driving machines ever built with the manual...by modern standards anyway. Would be amazing to procure one in the short future...kind of got my eyes set on an ACR though....cheaper...meaner...shittier...but f it.
drive the viper- reviews historical are quite poor. thought i read seating position and clutche placement are total garbage.
...and then there is the Porsche Cayman...
just got my 2018 gt3 poster and hung it on my wall. i am 44 still buying posters i can never afford a real one. never even been in a Porsche or in a neighborhood with them. grew up reading rag car magazines though.
I would guess the manual makes this the undisputed most enjoyable car in the world.
It's a good car
I love Sam Smith!!!
Flick Sam and keep Travis.
be cause pdk paddle are at the wrong place.
I like the PDK
Whatever floats your boat, but I like the manual more. :)
Nice 👍 😊
Pdk makes faster lap times, manual feels faster because you lose HP through the pdk
Who fucking cares? Numbers are boring and manuals make a car so much more fun to drive.
Wtf are you taking about? The manual is just more engaging. You dont lose power with the pdk. The 1mph higher top speed for the manual is simply a gear decision made by Porsche to achieve certain benchmarks with the PDK.
Why do I feel like I’m watching a cheap motortrend head 2 head rip off
you guys dont know shiii the only reason they didnt gave you a manual first is cause porshe are genius at biulding cars and geniuses at taking peoples money
Decent video. Keep trying though.
Seriously that was painful to watch. Sad attempt to copy motor trend, but awesome GT3.
Much better than MotorTrend.
They put pdk on gt3 to make it fast yet its ass gets beaten by its rivals.there is no sense in a pdk gt3.long live the manual
Gdamn that was painful to watch
Awesome car, but I can do without the 2 fools .
yap yap yap.
Sometimes less is more guys...
It's a nation full of children isn't it.
Manual < PDK
PDK is a cool transmission, but the manual is still cooler.
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown Not in a Porsche
Integrafreak1
True tho.
What a pair off dingleberry's but their right manual is best
That was just so forced, it was painful to watch. The guy was concentrating at the other guy, much more than focusing on driving the car
NOPE not doing it
Journalists love manuals more then the public
Then I must be a journalist at heart.
KS 10 congratulations on your new career
I agree, I've driven manuals for 17 years now, still drive one, and I hate it. You can only love a manual if you don't have to deal with it all the time
True car enthusiasts won't buy a GT3, they are way to heavy and soft core
True car enthusiast wants ~1200lbs, no power steering, no TC, no abs, no brake booster, no luggage space, no sound deadning, no nothing
Kr Dz you are incharge of what true car enthusiasts want since when
What fools. Totally superfluos video!
Manual, manual, manual I’m so kewl... Cringe!
I'd still get the PDK its more convenient, usable & quicker. I don't get this nostalgia nonsense, you may as well hand crank start the car.
Nobody cares about the PDK being quicker or convenient. They just want to have fun. Since you’re a zoomer, it’s something you wouldn’t understand.
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown If what you say is true then nobody would buy PDK's and the manufacturers wouldn't have stopped making manuals, the fact is everybody buys PDK's now.
Law19157
That’s only bragging wealthy dudes. Many people don’t buy the manual for speed omg or convenience, but to have fun. Nostalgia is not nonsense, it’s a thing that normal people feel. If you want the PDK, go for it. Just try to remember that when we buy the manuals, we just want to have fun, okay? Have a nice day.
@@EbilEnemyofBurgerTown These cars are priced high so yeah, those are the buyers
Unwatchable.
9k rpm is sooooooo 2002, com on people I’m a Porsche lover, but high rpm is sooo over rated now 🙄, glad they came back with the manual tho yippee.
They have turbo s with 7.2k redline if you like that flavor. Come-on now get with the program before you get left behind.
High rpm will NEVER be overrated
I WAS gonna watch this but then those guys started talking
This review seems like a bad joke. Let me rephrase, these “journalists” need to never be on camera again.
It’s douche and doucher.
Go back to driving your beat up Hyundai Sonata, peasant. And please work on your spelling. Were your parents too poor to send you to school?
These journalists are the worst!!!!
Road and Track need another type of personality with a different story. Sorry guys.
Oh, what a surprise. Another car channel whose presenters are doing a poor impression of old Top Gear's witty English camaraderie bromance. Please STOP.
Why let these goofballs drive a GT3
These guys have no business on camera. Zero charisma, can't take them seriously, can't even stand listening to them. Who at Road and Track with decision making clout allowed this to happen???
These guys are unwatchable.