I recommend the manga Red: Living on the Edge. A Native American warrior, a disgraced Samurai, and a gunslinging prostitute embark on a quest for revenge against a corrupt, savage US Cavalry Platoon guilty of many atrocities.
Kill 6 billion demons, and Jim Reel Paranormal Investigator had some great indie comic first issues. For manga however, Galaxias, Centuria, and Gachiakuta come to mind.
My prediction for Ryder.....it is revealed that, of course, you can't kill death. That in fact, the entire journey is just her going thru the 7 stages of grief. It's all an exercise for her to come to terms that death comes to us all. Without exception.
Monstress is a series that has an amazing hook imo, you start off seeing Maika, the mc, in a showroom about to be sold into slavery. then a figure claims her outright, without bidding any amount. when a bidder interjects, the figure states that they will be found dead in a few months in what seems to be an affair. not threatens, states. then the rest of the comic shows off Maika's skill and her escaping the cells, and exposing what seems to have been her plan, as well as her trying to rediscover her mothers past, and coming upon an ancient relic that is connected to a dormant god.
The dialogue was eye-rolling edgy shit. Everything else was impeccable. The worldbuilding, The gorgeous art and the plot had me hooked. I'm up to Volume five.
There’s this comic called Scoob and Shag, and yeah that sounds like an internet dumb comic because that’s how it honestly started out. But then out of no where it turned into a horror comic, then after the horror shock wore off they turned it into a power anime. The gimmick is that they use popular tv characters (but they given them different nicknames for copy right reasons) and it got me hooked because I started thinking about characters I knew and what their powers would be. Super interesting, the beginnings show but I think it’s worth it.
Funny, I had a comic idea that I wanted to have the title be ‘Ain’t No Grave’ after the Johnny Cash song. Now I know about this I guess I need to rethink.
To be said i feel like the right way to hook an audience is to make character less cold towards other i read many manhwa were the do this everytime it feels unreal.
This concept is well done mostly in Japan and Korea by manga and manhuas. They mastered the art of hooking, imo. Many US comics I read are not strong in that department, or they expect you to get hooked by simple casual means.
In my world people use magic to hunt monsters. But both magic and monsters were long forgotten. Its modern day and Hunters keep their crusade against monsters hidden. The thing is their magic is just phisics and chemistry. I explain using magic as phisics and chemistry that we just dont understand yet but use them in very primal ways.
You make really good notes with the Pyramid scheme. However, the one thing that’s really confusing me is the Fate aspect, because when you describe it- it feels more like it’s describing things *about* the world that we don’t know much about. You use the Court of Owls example (to which I think you’re talking about the fate aspect) but to me it sounds more like it’s a world related aspect than fate, the facts we do not already know about the world itself. I personally don’t think this is a Fate related. Fate to me is when the character’s external conflicts begin to broaden themselves exponentially, because the “red strings of fate” as you could say have become intertwined with something else larger-than-life, when their current external conflicts are shrunk or dissipate . But I definitely see what you’re trying to say, I suppose it just comes off a little strange because I’m not exactly sure of the exact answer itself. Would love to talk about this further! Let me know if there was something I missed!
@@NewTakeComics Just my two cents I usually have seen this kind of thing described in terms of past, present, and future. The world is the past, all the history and foundation the story rests upon, the characters are the present, their motivations and actions that interact and influence the world around them. Then there is the future, hints and possibilities where the story could go to keep the readers interested and guessing.
Wow! I've been struggling on how to introduce my story (or the essential ep. 1 as I call it). Your pyramid really helped me put things in perspective! For me, it was the Abandoned Empress (Ik, pretty mixed reviews, but I still enjoyed it!) Aristia was given a chance to restart her life, but will she choose to become empress again or take a different path?
@oldestdreamdokja Black Hammer, Locke and Key, Maus, Bone, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Saga, Transmetropolitan, The walking dead, Invincible. Some of my favorites, but kinda aimed for adults.
@@oldestdreamdokjaGeneric comics may be the best to recommend to newcomers, tho. You don't see people recommending Jean Vigo to someone who never heard of cinema. Pick up a comic that interests you and go, but have an eye towards "the classics". Many newspapers comic strips from the 1920s and 1930s are influent to this day. Little Nemo, Bringing Up Father, etc.
Hooking the audience is tricky Keeping them is even harder Satisfying them... Yeah, you might have to sacrifice some things for that. Take Batman Court of Owls for example: That story is a masterpiece... but then they keep going. The comic ends at a good spot, a cliffhanger, but it's satisfying. But noooooooooooope! They keep going with this stupid ass plot with some crazy guy saying he's Bruce's brother and there's explosions and Batman gets depressed again but SIKES! he actually just saves himself without any issue. It's so unnecessary and honestly, takes this 9/10 store all the way to 6/10 for me. Just because they couldn't stop.
Monstress had an interesting first book, but it was the second one I couldn't get through. Not because it was bad, moreso I just couldn't finish it. As a comic writer yourself, what would you say happened there?
To me it was.....super inconsistent. In one panel they tell you how impossible is something they need to do, just to accomplish that goal three panels later. Then comes this "unkillable" foe, who happens to die four panels later. Everything the mc needs, it happens. Everything the mc crew wants, it gets . No actual stakes, no danger, every task is successful and the drama feels artificial. Especially the small mascot-child who doesn't understand why everyone hates the murderous person he is attached to.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 See? The same comic and so different opinions....I don't get if that's good or bad. Also, everybody is friend (or was) of his mom, and always gets help from people just because you're your mom's daughter....of course she is his mom's daughter! 🤣
Does anyone know the name of the comic in the middle in the beggining? It was berserker, Monstress and what is the other one? Is that the walking dead?
"Its a western" Stop right there partner, I got everything I need .
*Adds to Cart*
Now now partner, let the man finish
Based
"Tuberculosis" *_Arthur's voice_*
"I'm dyin' sister."
@@NewTakeComics I am scared
Written by New York Times Best Selling author, John green.
@@NewTakeComics oh god i'm about to cry right now unironically
Lumbago
Watchmen does this on steroids; the FIRST PAGE of a sidewalk full of blood simply begs the question: who died?
And from that all the story unfolds.
I really like westerns.
Especially if they add supernatural of steam punk elements.
Blood meridian?
I recommend the manga Red: Living on the Edge. A Native American warrior, a disgraced Samurai, and a gunslinging prostitute embark on a quest for revenge against a corrupt, savage US Cavalry Platoon guilty of many atrocities.
@@themaestro2572 a gunslinging prostitute! how could I say no?
Green Blood is an excellent Western manga with even better art.
Already in love with Rider from her design alone.
Kill 6 billion demons, and Jim Reel Paranormal Investigator had some great indie comic first issues.
For manga however, Galaxias, Centuria, and Gachiakuta come to mind.
My prediction for Ryder.....it is revealed that, of course, you can't kill death. That in fact, the entire journey is just her going thru the 7 stages of grief. It's all an exercise for her to come to terms that death comes to us all. Without exception.
This video is a great hook. Now I gotta binge your channel🎉
skottie young's art is goated
Jorge Corona does the art. Skottie does the writing. But I agree, the art is absolutely gorgeous!
@@ein_aaron-3031 realized afterwards, you're right
Nah
Art loons like Jai Lee's style and the title being the name of one of my favorite Johnny Cash songs is a plus.
As someone that’s been planning webtoons, this was more than helpful!
just wow.. watched this for the funsies and now I feel the need to write! great work sir!
1:08 you mean that pyramid of curiosity was made up by you? That's actually really good, and useful to aspiring writers 👏
Maybe one day this comic will get more recognition, great video king
4:54: This is clearly a Jojo pose.
The thumbnail reminded me of steel ball run as well
1. Get a fishing rod with a hook
2. Go to a movie premiere
3. Hook the audience
👌
scottie young is too good.
This would make a good movie
They would ruin it.
Blame! is another good example for the iceberg
Monstress is a series that has an amazing hook imo, you start off seeing Maika, the mc, in a showroom about to be sold into slavery.
then a figure claims her outright, without bidding any amount. when a bidder interjects, the figure states that they will be found dead in a few months in what seems to be an affair. not threatens, states.
then the rest of the comic shows off Maika's skill and her escaping the cells, and exposing what seems to have been her plan, as well as her trying to rediscover her mothers past, and coming upon an ancient relic that is connected to a dormant god.
I actually found monstress through this video. It's awesome.
Skottie Young's other series I Hate Fairyland is hilarious and awesome if you haven't read it yet.
Definitely want to check that one out!
Monstress was fun
The dialogue was eye-rolling edgy shit. Everything else was impeccable. The worldbuilding, The gorgeous art and the plot had me hooked. I'm up to Volume five.
DMZ issue 1 got me
I have been dying to read it because Jorge Corona is my favorite artist
This is excellent ideas for an author such as myself. Thank you
Ah yes, Nate Piekos is the letterer. I see his love of polygonal speech bubbles with grungy brushes is in full swing here, lol
how to hook an audience- use someone elses ip to swiftly plug your own, got it
There’s this comic called Scoob and Shag, and yeah that sounds like an internet dumb comic because that’s how it honestly started out. But then out of no where it turned into a horror comic, then after the horror shock wore off they turned it into a power anime. The gimmick is that they use popular tv characters (but they given them different nicknames for copy right reasons) and it got me hooked because I started thinking about characters I knew and what their powers would be.
Super interesting, the beginnings show but I think it’s worth it.
thanks for reminding me that scoob & shag exists, i just reread and caught up on it as of a couple minutes ago. DAMN it's so good
In recent memory The Power Fantasy by Keiron Gillien did all this in spades
Woah your story sounds great!
Birthright and Gloria Victis are 2 comics that use this method, both immediately capturing your attention
Dawnrunner from Dark Horse is off the charts for art and story! 💯✨️🌟🏆✏️✒️🖌🎨👍
The second I saw Scottie Young was one of the artists I was hooked
Funny, I had a comic idea that I wanted to have the title be ‘Ain’t No Grave’ after the Johnny Cash song. Now I know about this I guess I need to rethink.
Ya got a new sub. Keep going.
Your comic looks cool
I hope this channel blows up from this video. 😊
Bloody youtube adding the emoji lol. Anyhow, first comic that hooked me was Dorohedero. That first chapter left me with a lot of war to learn more.
Mainstream though lesser-known, Grant Morrison's miniseries "Marvel Boy" hooked me immediately.
To be said i feel like the right way to hook an audience is to make character less cold towards other i read many manhwa were the do this everytime it feels unreal.
This concept is well done mostly in Japan and Korea by manga and manhuas. They mastered the art of hooking, imo.
Many US comics I read are not strong in that department, or they expect you to get hooked by simple casual means.
Sounds like a personal bias.
In my world people use magic to hunt monsters. But both magic and monsters were long forgotten. Its modern day and Hunters keep their crusade against monsters hidden. The thing is their magic is just phisics and chemistry. I explain using magic as phisics and chemistry that we just dont understand yet but use them in very primal ways.
This is the artist of that tornado comic
Hell yeah as soon as I heard ur voice I had to subscribe thats Farnham gaming right there
You make really good notes with the Pyramid scheme. However, the one thing that’s really confusing me is the Fate aspect, because when you describe it- it feels more like it’s describing things *about* the world that we don’t know much about. You use the Court of Owls example (to which I think you’re talking about the fate aspect) but to me it sounds more like it’s a world related aspect than fate, the facts we do not already know about the world itself. I personally don’t think this is a Fate related.
Fate to me is when the character’s external conflicts begin to broaden themselves exponentially, because the “red strings of fate” as you could say have become intertwined with something else larger-than-life, when their current external conflicts are shrunk or dissipate .
But I definitely see what you’re trying to say, I suppose it just comes off a little strange because I’m not exactly sure of the exact answer itself. Would love to talk about this further! Let me know if there was something I missed!
Fate in a nutshell is the fate of the characters story or the fate of the people around them.
@@NewTakeComics Just my two cents I usually have seen this kind of thing described in terms of past, present, and future. The world is the past, all the history and foundation the story rests upon, the characters are the present, their motivations and actions that interact and influence the world around them. Then there is the future, hints and possibilities where the story could go to keep the readers interested and guessing.
Skottie Young is a GOAT
Skottie Young of "I Hate Fairyland"? Picked up!
Wow! I've been struggling on how to introduce my story (or the essential ep. 1 as I call it). Your pyramid really helped me put things in perspective!
For me, it was the Abandoned Empress (Ik, pretty mixed reviews, but I still enjoyed it!)
Aristia was given a chance to restart her life, but will she choose to become empress again or take a different path?
Glad it helped!
@@NewTakeComics What does the F stand for?! I couldn't hear you properly!
… Oh!!!
I’m interested!
Going to check this out and the art is amazing!
Hoping to see your channel blow up. This is a pretty high quality video here
I appreciate that!
Great content. Instant sub. Also going to check out your comic. You thinking of kickstarting it?
Great video
Nice video men, what is the name of the song at 0:09?
I'm looking for it too
I'm stopping the video now to read it. I'll be back to watch the rest because I need to know your thoughts afterwards.
bruh at least mention the authors name
The name is on the cover of the book
@pmlstk 0:11 check it out
If the book is interesting and you pick it up you’ll see the authors name.
The algorithm chose the fuck out of this video wow
Your a w chanel no gonna lie
You like westerns read Adios Palomita by Oliver Vatine👍
im just here for the nsfw art
I might come off as negative, but aint no grave comes off as very generic. The art is impressive, but the story and setting seem overly familiar.
I wanna read good comics. I am new and never read any. Pls recommend me some😊
@@oldestdreamdokja I recommend Lone Sloane by Phillipe Druillet, The Sandman by Neil Gaiman, and The Incal
Should be a great start
@oldestdreamdokja Black Hammer, Locke and Key, Maus, Bone, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Saga, Transmetropolitan, The walking dead, Invincible. Some of my favorites, but kinda aimed for adults.
@@oldestdreamdokjaGeneric comics may be the best to recommend to newcomers, tho. You don't see people recommending Jean Vigo to someone who never heard of cinema. Pick up a comic that interests you and go, but have an eye towards "the classics". Many newspapers comic strips from the 1920s and 1930s are influent to this day. Little Nemo, Bringing Up Father, etc.
Nah the plot is one of the most original I’ve seen. It takes multiple well known tropes, yes, but combines them in unique ways.
DEI western: pass
Cool
What does the F stand for? I couldn't hear him properly! 😮
Fate, although his examples use it less as a divine prophecy, and more as a preview of what’s to come in the rest of the story.
This all well and good but hows the sale? If it isn’t profitable, these gems are going to get cancelled anyway
Hooking the audience is tricky
Keeping them is even harder
Satisfying them... Yeah, you might have to sacrifice some things for that.
Take Batman Court of Owls for example: That story is a masterpiece... but then they keep going. The comic ends at a good spot, a cliffhanger, but it's satisfying. But noooooooooooope! They keep going with this stupid ass plot with some crazy guy saying he's Bruce's brother and there's explosions and Batman gets depressed again but SIKES! he actually just saves himself without any issue. It's so unnecessary and honestly, takes this 9/10 store all the way to 6/10 for me. Just because they couldn't stop.
Monstress had an interesting first book, but it was the second one I couldn't get through. Not because it was bad, moreso I just couldn't finish it. As a comic writer yourself, what would you say happened there?
Probably just a preference type of thing.
I personally enjoyed the second issue.
To me it was.....super inconsistent.
In one panel they tell you how impossible is something they need to do, just to accomplish that goal three panels later.
Then comes this "unkillable" foe, who happens to die four panels later.
Everything the mc needs, it happens.
Everything the mc crew wants, it gets . No actual stakes, no danger, every task is successful and the drama feels artificial. Especially the small mascot-child who doesn't understand why everyone hates the murderous person he is attached to.
@@juananonimo6993 I feel like the first issue made the main character too overpowered but then proceeded to downgrade her power in the next one.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 See?
The same comic and so different opinions....I don't get if that's good or bad.
Also, everybody is friend (or was) of his mom, and always gets help from people just because you're your mom's daughter....of course she is his mom's daughter! 🤣
@@juananonimo6993 I think the worldbuilding kept me reading more than the characters.
Does anyone know the name of the comic in the middle in the beggining? It was berserker, Monstress and what is the other one? Is that the walking dead?
Hello;
Are you interested in doing a Persian mythology comic?
Can you expand what you mean by fate? Do you mean like the possibilities of the decisions of the characters or just situations of the world?
Both.
It can be curiosity about the fate of the characters or their story, or the fate of the world.
@@NewTakeComicsthank you. I just wanted to make sure I understood what you meant. :)
artwork is good....the guns are bad. Story seem good
meh
:+ D
ok
banger username
@@isaackaumeyer6847 ik
What races are you racist against
Depending on your answer you will gain either positive or negative rep
@@Philosophicalblackman what races should they be racist against?
honestly the boxcutter irregular art looks ugly af, so its very subjective.
sir you can´t recognize what good art is even if your life depending on it.