Will, love the new format and style of your videos. You're even looking pretty svelte yourself, good stuff! Any reason you didn't cover fogging the combustion chamber directly as Yamaha has indicated as part of the long term storage procedures?
It's not something we've been advised as a mandatory step in the fog process. It could be added in the next update though. We like to plus our videos over time and that would be a good add if Yamaha does indeed recommend this step for winter storage. We polled a few pros before shooting this video and made sure to hit all the high points. Always willing to learn more though, especially from someone as thorough and experienced as you Capt. Leon!!!
@@JetBoatPilot thanks for the compliment, but I’m just plugging along figuring it out just like the rest of us, but we can all learn from each other. Yamaha tech bulletin WCA2011-003 provides for fogging the combustion chamber directly. To me it may do more good than fogging through the intake track which is burning up the oil as applied. But doing both is best in my opinion. I demonstrate it here: ua-cam.com/video/EP_860dB7jc/v-deo.html
What about gas? Is there harm to storing it with fuel that contain ethonol? OR should I fill it up with ethanol free fuel before treating? (new boat owner here, have yet to put gas in it since we only got to take it out a couple of times before the need to store it) - thanks for all the advice.
@jayd1008 it can be done and I think Yamaha even recommends that in a recent tech bulletin. We've never done that for our winterizations though. We boat exclusively in salt water and have never had any issues with any of our boat's engines come spring time.
Fuel Med RX is primarily a fuel stabilizer with corrosion inhibitors, where Engine Med RX provides advanced de-carboning action along with more corrosion inhibitors.
@@davidwiseman3724 I don't have a link to the parts online. We work with a dealer who makes these. You may be able to reach out to Cycle Springs Powersports in Clearwater Florida and speak to the parts department. They may be interested in selling a kit to you.
I discovered there is a break away internal tab in the 16 oz. container so you can pour it in fast and bypassing the measuring cup port. Open the lid and push a clean screw driver directly down in the center of the cap opening.
Hey Will, love the videos, would you consider selling an annual maintenance bundle? Fogging Oil, Yamalube Silicone Spray, YamaShield, Engine Anode, and anything else you'd recommend. I've learned so much from your videos. Thank you!
Ok, well I live in a warm climate that is near salt and put boat in salt 80% of the time but in the winter we like to take it in fresh water to give it a clean out per se. Do you need to flog it even if you don't store for winter and it gets into the 40s and occasionally drops below 40, but rare. What is flogging for, excess water not to freeze but then it was mentioned to flog for salt water once a quarter. I do not know any other owners who does this. Is there a good video on warm climate storage over 2-3 months and using the boat less but still using boat in the winter. Any suggestions. Also most do not have the flog portal which I have never heard of or seen and you mention the filter box. Is there a video on doing it without that that handy blue portal. And are you using silicone spray. I usually spray that on the outside of the engine. Never heard of putting it through the engine.
@@JetBoatPilot ok is there a video without the blue portal. Saw another video where the guy took off the engine cap from an older yamaha to also fog inside spark plugs, removing spark plugs and squirting yamalube into the pistons. Do you have the full fogging maintenance video with fogging from filter and the spark plug and pistons without removing the hoses which the guy in another video had to remove hoses to remove the filter box to spray the yamalube in directly. Any short cuts or easier ways and should one add the fuel additive even if not winter storing or if the boat sits a couple of months without use. In a Southern more climate neutral place
We've since changed the kit to include a 1 gallon bottle of Fuel Med RX. The ratio is one oz per gallon of fuel. The Fuel tank in this boat holds 75 gallons so you'd need at minimum 75 oz of fuel med. With the gallon size you'd have enough to treat a full tank once plus a little extra.
Thank you again for doing this video. Do you recommend pulling the spark plugs and spraying fogging oil in each spark plug hole? I would be interested in the Yamaha bulletin for the 1.8L if you could share too.
You can add that step. Not all will do it but it can help provide a more thorough coat of fogging oil in the combustion chamber. Email me at will@jetboatpilot.com and I'll send you the bulletin.
I live in Oklahoma just bought a 18 fsh we get a lot of nice winter days here though. Do I really need to fog the boat if I may take it out in the winter months? It’s stays in my shop when not in use. Also,when you do fog them can I just take them out after winter and run it at the start of boating season?
Mainly you fog if you're boating in salt water or if you're going to store the boat without running at least once per month. If you plan to run at least once per month you may not need to fog.
This is an unrelated question, but one I’ve had difficulty finding a solution. I noticed on the side of your boat in this video your chrome model marking at the base of the tower is missing a “2”. I have a ‘21 195S that doesn’t have those chrome letters, though later years do. Any idea where I can find those? I’ve looked at Partzilla and other similar sources but no luck. I’m afraid asking a dealer would cost an arm and a leg.
The MR1 is fuel injected but i think you can spray into the air intakes and you can remove the spark plugs and spray directly into the combustion chamber
We simply run the engine/s hard on the first run of the year and then change the spark plugs after the run. Fill with super unleaded gas on the first run too just in case there was any degradation of fuel quality in the tank. Then you're good to go for the season (unless you need an oil change...if so do your oil change after the first run as well since the oil will be nice and warm)
Will, Why Fuel Med Ex instead of Marine Stabil? Is it just a Yamaha marketing deal, or does it add better protection on the fuel system? Thanks for all the videos!
All fine and dandy but where are we spraying it in on the supercharged if we don’t have the cycle springs port. Do we leave the air filter in and spray it ,take the air filter out and spray it or is there someplace else?
Hi Will. I live on the island of Cyprus and just wondering if you ship overseas. I'm really interested in a Yamaha jet boat as over here we dont have them.
Not sure the exact interval but check your manual. I think the recommendation is in there. Also you can easily get the grease servicing wrong. Do lots of research before you add grease to that zerk.
For running the cooling water in the engine you want to turn the engine on first, then the hose. When shutting down, turn off the water first. Rap the throttles a few times to blow out any excess water from the system and then shut off the engines last.
Hey Will, so is it ok when fogging the motor thru the air filter is it ok for the fogging spray to go through the supercharger? I saw a thread where a guy said he bypassed the supercharger. Just didn't want to mess that up
@@JetBoatPilot ok, thank you very much. So this is off the subject of that. My wife was curious if we should pull the interior button down carpets up during winter months? The boat will have a cover on it but will be still outside. Would it be a good idea or would they be fine staying put
@TheJeffrose1981 should be ok buy some will do a deep clean prior to winter storage and then reinstall them once dry. Just don't leave them in the boat wet.
Fogging prevents corrosion / seizing of valves when the engine sits idle for storage season. Blowing air through engine is actually not advised on Yamaha engines. This works on SeaDoo switch but not recommended on Yamaha
I could have sworn I saw a video from you that had a Seadoo boat and Yamaha next to each other and you were blowing out the water from each. Did I imagine that?
@coryeichorn9169 no we did publish that video but took it down after changing our recommendation on the practice. It's permissible on a Switch but not really recommended on a Yamaha
I’ve been looking for that video all night. Haha glad to know I’m not crazy. So oil change, fuel stabilizer, fog, and store the battery indoors is all I need for my 2014 sx210? What about getting the water out or adding antifreeze to the water system?
@coryeichorn9169 blow out the water by disconnecting water from hose and Rev throttle 3 times full throttle. If unsure you can add antifreeze but really not necessary.
Do we need to do the winterization thing in south florida, new boat owner here living in Miami and was wondering if i need to do any of this at the end of the season, having that in Miami you will probably be off water from Nov to March thats 5 month, 6 at a top and if you use non ethanol fuel that can hold 6 month with no degradation is this really needed
@@JetBoatPilot i did but i dont have the cycle sprint custom feature for it, i was asking for an actual video of how it is done without the custom feature
I need some help. I have a 2023 yamaha AR220 with 2 TR-1 engine's and would like to know where i can fog the engine's. I have looked and there is nothing anywhere.
So what i did was just remove the air filter and just shot it in while the engine was running. after all said and done just removed each spark plug and carefully gave it a shot as well straight into the heads. Then gave it a quick crank with out the spark plugs on to get the oil onto the heads and lub it.@@paulkocher3919
You guys are the best thing to happen to Yamaha boats!!!
Thank you! We're big fans if you can't tell!!
Will, love the new format and style of your videos. You're even looking pretty svelte yourself, good stuff! Any reason you didn't cover fogging the combustion chamber directly as Yamaha has indicated as part of the long term storage procedures?
It's not something we've been advised as a mandatory step in the fog process. It could be added in the next update though. We like to plus our videos over time and that would be a good add if Yamaha does indeed recommend this step for winter storage. We polled a few pros before shooting this video and made sure to hit all the high points. Always willing to learn more though, especially from someone as thorough and experienced as you Capt. Leon!!!
@@JetBoatPilot thanks for the compliment, but I’m just plugging along figuring it out just like the rest of us, but we can all learn from each other. Yamaha tech bulletin WCA2011-003 provides for fogging the combustion chamber directly. To me it may do more good than fogging through the intake track which is burning up the oil as applied. But doing both is best in my opinion. I demonstrate it here: ua-cam.com/video/EP_860dB7jc/v-deo.html
@@CaptainLeonsBoatingandMore I think I have that bulletin. I may add an addendum to our video. Thanks for the quality video! Its well done.
Hi, I’m addition to fogging thru the air box, do you recommend removing the spark plugs and spraying fog oil into the engine? Thanks
Yes, adds a nice coat of protection.
What about gas? Is there harm to storing it with fuel that contain ethonol? OR should I fill it up with ethanol free fuel before treating? (new boat owner here, have yet to put gas in it since we only got to take it out a couple of times before the need to store it) - thanks for all the advice.
I'd recommend that you fill with ethanol free fuel and fill to 7/8ths full.
what about pulling the plugs and fogging the cylnders ?
@jayd1008 it can be done and I think Yamaha even recommends that in a recent tech bulletin. We've never done that for our winterizations though. We boat exclusively in salt water and have never had any issues with any of our boat's engines come spring time.
@@JetBoatPilot in my case (new jersey ) I'm down for 8 mos ..she sits
Where can I purchase the fogging port kit? I would like to install it myself in my 255 FSH.
@@alexbarrios8470 check with Cycle Springs in Clearwater
@@JetBoatPilot Thanks. FYI i love the channel, keep up the good work.
@@alexbarrios8470 thank you!
If you run ethanol free gas do you still need the fuel stabilizer?
Yes I would do it for long term storage
What is the difference between fuel med rx and the engine med rx?
Fuel Med RX is primarily a fuel stabilizer with corrosion inhibitors, where Engine Med RX provides advanced de-carboning action along with more corrosion inhibitors.
@@JetBoatPilot ok thank you and so sounds like I can use both of them at the same time correct?
@@jemdost6724 I believe so
So, for DIY purposes is that fog quick connect that Cycle Springs offers...is that something I can add myself? If so, how do I find the parts?
Not sure. I think it's pretty easy to install. Let me see if we can get the kits to sell on the site.
I hope you can get those kits for DIY install. Thank you for this video. 👍🏻
@Robert Gill at this moment we cannot. But I imagine it's possible to find the parts online somewhere.
I would also be interested in a DIY kit. So much easier than taking the air filter apart. How about a link to the parts where we can build our own?
@@davidwiseman3724 I don't have a link to the parts online. We work with a dealer who makes these. You may be able to reach out to Cycle Springs Powersports in Clearwater Florida and speak to the parts department. They may be interested in selling a kit to you.
I discovered there is a break away internal tab in the 16 oz. container so you can pour it in fast and bypassing the measuring cup port. Open the lid and push a clean screw driver directly down in the center of the cap opening.
That 252 is absolutely gorgeous 😍
Where can I get the kit for fogging
@@sammetzger8047 jetboatpilot.com/search?q=Winterization
I mean fogging port
Hey Will, love the videos, would you consider selling an annual maintenance bundle? Fogging Oil, Yamalube Silicone Spray, YamaShield, Engine Anode, and anything else you'd recommend. I've learned so much from your videos. Thank you!
That is a great idea and something we should look into. Thank you for the kind words
Ok, well I live in a warm climate that is near salt and put boat in salt 80% of the time but in the winter we like to take it in fresh water to give it a clean out per se. Do you need to flog it even if you don't store for winter and it gets into the 40s and occasionally drops below 40, but rare. What is flogging for, excess water not to freeze but then it was mentioned to flog for salt water once a quarter. I do not know any other owners who does this. Is there a good video on warm climate storage over 2-3 months and using the boat less but still using boat in the winter. Any suggestions. Also most do not have the flog portal which I have never heard of or seen and you mention the filter box. Is there a video on doing it without that that handy blue portal. And are you using silicone spray. I usually spray that on the outside of the engine. Never heard of putting it through the engine.
@@DJ-GG mainly fogging lubricates valve train to prevent them from sticking .
@@JetBoatPilot ok is there a video without the blue portal. Saw another video where the guy took off the engine cap from an older yamaha to also fog inside spark plugs, removing spark plugs and squirting yamalube into the pistons. Do you have the full fogging maintenance video with fogging from filter and the spark plug and pistons without removing the hoses which the guy in another video had to remove hoses to remove the filter box to spray the yamalube in directly. Any short cuts or easier ways and should one add the fuel additive even if not winter storing or if the boat sits a couple of months without use. In a Southern more climate neutral place
@DJ-GG we don't but check Capt Leon's video which shows how to fog inside the plug openings.
5 bottles of the fuel stabilizer!!!!!??? Use the marine Stable and it would be 7.5 ounces.
We've since changed the kit to include a 1 gallon bottle of Fuel Med RX. The ratio is one oz per gallon of fuel. The Fuel tank in this boat holds 75 gallons so you'd need at minimum 75 oz of fuel med. With the gallon size you'd have enough to treat a full tank once plus a little extra.
Thank you again for doing this video. Do you recommend pulling the spark plugs and spraying fogging oil in each spark plug hole?
I would be interested in the Yamaha bulletin for the 1.8L if you could share too.
You can add that step. Not all will do it but it can help provide a more thorough coat of fogging oil in the combustion chamber. Email me at will@jetboatpilot.com and I'll send you the bulletin.
Thanks for clarification on Open Loop and freeze concerns. Usually variation of opinions especially considering hard freeze areas.
You're welcome! It's an age old debate. To use anti freeze or not. Those that do always will. Those that don't never will.
I live in Oklahoma just bought a 18 fsh we get a lot of nice winter days here though. Do I really need to fog the boat if I may take it out in the winter months? It’s stays in my shop when not in use. Also,when you do fog them can I just take them out after winter and run it at the start of boating season?
Mainly you fog if you're boating in salt water or if you're going to store the boat without running at least once per month. If you plan to run at least once per month you may not need to fog.
This video is a money saver… thank you!!
That is what we'd hoped to achieve when we made it! Thanks!
Can you send me the link for that fogging port ? Have a 2024 1.9 engine.
We don't make them. Cycle Springs Powersports installed ours.
Yes i know, went to website didn’t find it. Can you send me the link please?
@mahdimarmouz7733 I don't have one. Contact them direct.
love your channel, I though I was too late to winterize my boat, because we had some freezing night.
Thank you!
Appreciate it, but what if I don’t have an aftermarket flushing port? Do instructions exist for stock boats?
If you have a stock boat you simply remove the air filter and spray directly into the intake tract down line from where the filter normally sits.
This is an unrelated question, but one I’ve had difficulty finding a solution. I noticed on the side of your boat in this video your chrome model marking at the base of the tower is missing a “2”. I have a ‘21 195S that doesn’t have those chrome letters, though later years do. Any idea where I can find those? I’ve looked at Partzilla and other similar sources but no luck. I’m afraid asking a dealer would cost an arm and a leg.
I'd check with DomedNumbers.com and see if they can help. It won't be the exact same as factory but you can get close.
Ar230 2009 how would I fog the motor I'm guessing take off cover to access the carbs. run engine than fog this is a MR1 engine Rich
The MR1 is fuel injected but i think you can spray into the air intakes and you can remove the spark plugs and spray directly into the combustion chamber
I do not have the dealer installed fogger port. How do I deliver the fogger thru the air filter?
Is there a different process for De-winterizing it?
We simply run the engine/s hard on the first run of the year and then change the spark plugs after the run. Fill with super unleaded gas on the first run too just in case there was any degradation of fuel quality in the tank. Then you're good to go for the season (unless you need an oil change...if so do your oil change after the first run as well since the oil will be nice and warm)
@@JetBoatPilot when you say first run, did you mean running it in the lake or just connecting a hose and run it that way?
@@DarealAGee first lake day
Thank you for this info. Im looking into getting a Yamaha AR210 soon, and these are helpful information! Thanks again!
Will, Why Fuel Med Ex instead of Marine Stabil? Is it just a Yamaha marketing deal, or does it add better protection on the fuel system? Thanks for all the videos!
No, it's just what we sell. Any stabilizer will work fine.
All fine and dandy but where are we spraying it in on the supercharged if we don’t have the cycle springs port. Do we leave the air filter in and spray it ,take the air filter out and spray it or is there someplace else?
Email me at will@jetboatpilot.com and I'll send you a tech bulletin for supercharged
Did you use a full can of fogger? I ordered two, just wondering if I should use a full can, or go with the smoke in the exhaust?
No just one can about half a can for engine
Hi Will. I live on the island of Cyprus and just wondering if you ship overseas. I'm really interested in a Yamaha jet boat as over here we dont have them.
Yes for sure! We ship world-wide
I was wondering if you had the link for the fogging port that you have on the engine. If you don't have that how do you go about doing it?
I don't. Check with Cycle Springs in Clearwater Florida
Does Yamaha recommend inspecting the jet pump cone for grease condition or water intrusion?
Not sure the exact interval but check your manual. I think the recommendation is in there. Also you can easily get the grease servicing wrong. Do lots of research before you add grease to that zerk.
Do I turn the engine on befor turn on the hose or does it not matter
For running the cooling water in the engine you want to turn the engine on first, then the hose. When shutting down, turn off the water first. Rap the throttles a few times to blow out any excess water from the system and then shut off the engines last.
Hi Jeff, will you being doing a winterize video for the Seadoo switch pontoon as it’s closed loop ?
We can, maybe when our Limited shows up. Also we don't have a Jeff here. I'm Will.
Sorry will I’m not sure why I called you Jeff ! Your videos are amazing
Hey Will, so is it ok when fogging the motor thru the air filter is it ok for the fogging spray to go through the supercharger? I saw a thread where a guy said he bypassed the supercharger. Just didn't want to mess that up
It really does not matter from what I've heard.
@@JetBoatPilot ok, thank you very much. So this is off the subject of that. My wife was curious if we should pull the interior button down carpets up during winter months? The boat will have a cover on it but will be still outside. Would it be a good idea or would they be fine staying put
@TheJeffrose1981 should be ok buy some will do a deep clean prior to winter storage and then reinstall them once dry. Just don't leave them in the boat wet.
You did not mention the oil change aspect of storage. Do you change prior to storage or after storage?
Either is fine but many opt to do it prior to storage.
In the fall is best so fresh oil will be sitting inside the engine all winter.
Why would you fog rather than just using compressed air through the flush port?
Fogging prevents corrosion / seizing of valves when the engine sits idle for storage season. Blowing air through engine is actually not advised on Yamaha engines. This works on SeaDoo switch but not recommended on Yamaha
I could have sworn I saw a video from you that had a Seadoo boat and Yamaha next to each other and you were blowing out the water from each. Did I imagine that?
@coryeichorn9169 no we did publish that video but took it down after changing our recommendation on the practice. It's permissible on a Switch but not really recommended on a Yamaha
I’ve been looking for that video all night. Haha glad to know I’m not crazy. So oil change, fuel stabilizer, fog, and store the battery indoors is all I need for my 2014 sx210? What about getting the water out or adding antifreeze to the water system?
@coryeichorn9169 blow out the water by disconnecting water from hose and Rev throttle 3 times full throttle. If unsure you can add antifreeze but really not necessary.
Do we need to do the winterization thing in south florida, new boat owner here living in Miami and was wondering if i need to do any of this at the end of the season, having that in Miami you will probably be off water from Nov to March thats 5 month, 6 at a top and if you use non ethanol fuel that can hold 6 month with no degradation is this really needed
It's not so much about winterizing but I would definitely spray fogging oil into your air intake track once a quarter because of all the Salt Air
@@JetBoatPilot appreciate the reply, i have 2023 AR220 similar to yours, do you have any video on how to do fogging oil on it
@@alainl.pinero1307 watch Our winterization video
@@JetBoatPilot i did but i dont have the cycle sprint custom feature for it, i was asking for an actual video of how it is done without the custom feature
@@alainl.pinero1307 maybe watch Our earlier version here
Will, does this process cause any harm to the spark plugs?
Not with the Yamaha Fogging Oil. Not sure about others.
hurt to watch
I need some help. I have a 2023 yamaha AR220 with 2 TR-1 engine's and would like to know where i can fog the engine's. I have looked and there is nothing anywhere.
I have the same question let me know if you get it figured out
So what i did was just remove the air filter and just shot it in while the engine was running. after all said and done just removed each spark plug and carefully gave it a shot as well straight into the heads. Then gave it a quick crank with out the spark plugs on to get the oil onto the heads and lub it.@@paulkocher3919