UNRAVELING Draco's FGO Transition...Here's What Changed + Analysis
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2023
- poor nero the merciless tyrant...
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Setanta really getting them plot boosts for real
im still trying to figure it out.
His adult form doesnt even have feats that good lmaooo. Being lancer is suffering for real
@@TsiahIV i feel like they should have done this in septem because what's the point of that singularity if it wasnt gonna do anything for her character and if they planned to do this from the start then they should have used another character for septem
As much as we all love to see Cu get his time to shine, the idea that his Adult Form would be able to fight Arjuna and Karna is a really hard pill to swallow, so him as his younger Setanta form fighting them and doing well? That honestly makes no sense.
An hour long episode what did I do to deserve this
Nothing
@@JD-kf7un exactly
You committed Gacha Hell 😂😂😂
"this whole event is just Nero on Shrooms"
he's out of line but he's right
I've thought for a long time that Ritsuka will end up becoming a Beast and this event makes me think I might have been right.
Based on the fact that we've defeated 2 beast 4 candidates without actually killing them (fou and koyanskya) and the specific way we beat them was via compassion i believe that ritsuka if he will take on any beast Class title will be beast 4 (Comparison and Cherishment respectively)
(Though we are human the shared characteristic of animal and nature doesnt exclude humans as humans are a part of natrue and are a type of animal)
Men don't become beasts duh
5:35 and also the fear that came from it a hero defeating a demon king level enemy and after that everyone is afraid that the hero would become the next demon king, he fought him to his level and everyone is afraid of his superior strength treating him like a monster
Honestly the Extraverse easily has the best setting and funnest characters all together that I wish a different team/company made a gacha with them because Extra Record and Extella 2 will never be coming out and I want stories with Hakuno and the Extraverse masters/servants. They wouldn't even need to make a new OC self insert because Hakuno loses their memories every 10 seconds
It's also the most depressing.
@@mongooseunleashed Honestly I would say FGO is far worse with how often humanity is wiped and how long it takes to actually fix the situation. At least with the Extraverse we have background info that the Moon Cell has lowkey fixed the cyberpunk world(or at least gave people a new world/chance) and they're forewarned of threats like the Umbral Star. Meanwhile FGO you go 6 singularities in and humanity is still deadge.
@@darknessknows1235 to be fair the issue is that if that wasn’t the case FGO wouldn’t work narratively because we’d have so many issues with the clock tower so it’ll just be another issue by itself
@darknessknows1235 The big difference is in FGO there's a chance to win. In Extra, it's just a lose lose situation.
@@mongooseunleashed What? That makes no sense lmao. If you look at the BS the Moon Cell pulls they have better chance and handling calamities than Chaldea who runs around like a headless chicken winging it all the way
With the way how they first introduced Draco in the Arcade as an antagonist then retrofitted her over to the mobile as a beast class servant.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Arcade did the same by introducing Goetia as a playable beast class servant to counter it. 😅 (truly an onore arcade moment for sure…)
They’re going to take Olga
Ritsuka needs to realise that to be a man is to be a beast 😢 Be the master of your beast, control and command the aggression. He cannot be afraid to embrace it when the time comes. Face your demons, and rein control over them. Do not hide from them....😢😢😢
Man I'm already lost with the story lines mixing, but yet you managed to keep things interesting. Always good to hear these videos to help sort things out.
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Also for duos...
To me personally.
Definitely do not want to face Scáthach and Cú Alter at the same time.
Suddenly getting visions of Impalement and slow death visuals.
At least with Arjuna and Karma, I suspect it would be at least quick and sudden.
God I love draco/nero so much
I kinda feel like this is heavily hinting at that we are returning to Fuyuki. It would make sense.
They hinted that since the last lost belt trailer
@@darakkriess1030 wait how
@@medievalplayz8327 go rewatch the second lostbelt trailer and you’ll see salter in fuyuki
@@darakkriess1030where lmao, she isnt there
One of the deepest dives fgo has taken with an event great content cause its stuff like this that not only provides good entertainment but also opens numerous doors for future lore connections.
Tsiah really came packing this time!
I swear its not a coincidence that I just finished the event and you posted this. Loved everything about it. The music was top notch and i really loved how it all ended. Lol Almost couldn't take anything seriously.
"I can see it now, we're entering the Kingdom Hearts phase"
Ah yes, the crossing of two of my favorite things. Thanks for this longform video. After going thru the whole thing, I think the story for this event is p awesome. Great justification for Beast Nero. I'm super curious as to if this new look into how Ritsuka's choices can affect our own team will have permanent repercussions in the ending of Part 2. Also as to your comment on the Velbers, it'd be great if we could get a Foreigner Sefar Altera, Lasagna pls
Her Demon Beast Emperor Draco form looks like it took inspiration from Demon King Nobunaga. I do like the design with it's death metal-like theme, but I'm conflicted cause I also liked her Mature Sodom's Beast form in Arcade. Wished there was at least a sprite of that form just to see what it would look like in the mobile game.
Seriously, a missed opportunity to be sure. They could have made it her 3rd, or even 4th, ascension, since it's rare we get a servant like that. They even have art of them simply standing, and could've used that as the base of it.
Hero or villian it's all a matter of perspective..
Think about it, if you do something villainous for the sole purpose of achieving a heroic goal..
It all depends on the perspective others who have knowledge of those deeds, if they are only aware of the villainous deed or the heroic end. It's pretty easy, but your aware of both, it ultimately comes down to how you were impacted by those events, which would determine your perspective.
Furthermore, does it really matter as most things take place in, realities or time lines that aren't supposed to exist to begin with..
That's edgy logic on real life it depends solely on propaganda and association. And the event nails it correctly by association MC is a villain.
it's because of the story that make me go deep for draco....
how deep?.....
....a freaking 900SQ pity deep!!!!
damn it.😅
I personally think that the final ascension design for Beast Nero could be better, and isn't as good as it SHOULD be for the first ever playable Beast-Class servant. It isn't a bad design and definitely not the worst, but I feel like it should be a bit more beast-like, despite being a more "Nero" side of Beast VI.
Also,
*antagonist forces Ritsuka to end worlds and commit war crimes to save worlds*
Story: REEEEEE YOU ARE TERRIBLEEE
*mother and surrounding officials being contributing factors to Nero becoming an atrocious tyrant*
Story: oh baby, come here, its okay... aww, you're okay, it's going to be fine. you are a victim, nothing was your fault
Setanta outfit looks like Shiro's from Log Horizon
This is very UMU
Yo he referenced kingdom hearts. This is awesome
I love KH. KH2 is one of my all time favorites, fighting sephiroth, getting all his drive forms, 100% the game. Good times. And the soundtrack is consistently superb
@@TsiahIV a man of the highest culture
I think it's fitting that fate has its name just from looking at the power system because the strongest characters in the nasuverse are that strong mostly because of their circumstance sure do are very hardworking mages that became powerful but if they weren't born as a mage their hard work wouldn't matter and look at other characters like shiki thono it's not like he worked for his mystic eyes it was just kind of given to him by circumstance or another words fate and he is very strong I know this is kind of unrelated to the video but I just thought it was interesting to mention.
I really want the next arc to fully dive into the concept of parallel worlds that are each on the same level of being a proper human history as our world (honestly i think chaldeas (the sphere back in the original base) is being used to manipulate the original real world that was swapped with the world inside chaldeas (i also think the creation of the lostbelts and them being destoryed is part of this plan (i think the energy thst maintained the lost belts and was contained within them is being collected for whatever the true purpose is behind the alien god and the alien world)
58:00 Ritsuka Kishibe 😂
18:05 she’s fated to always chase after her children while they run from her
5:43 you would be surprised that this happens in real life too, I speak from experience
The Worst Duo are Arjuna and Karna, together they can create a black hole, You are not surviving that without plot armour
Spectacular video my dude. Youfe awesome and getting my dosage of lore from you is always dope brother. Keep it up! And as far as designs go for the new beast nero, i personally think its better than the arcade varient but that's just me!
Always need fgo content on our wait for lb6💯
Can you do the lore on Jason next? 😢 The OG Ash Ketchum pokemaster. Commanding servants before the first holy grail war. The legendary womanizer. The trickster before Buggy.
Thank you for keeping me updated
So this is the power of equivalent exchange
This was epic finally seeing how it all adds up really makes me interested to see more extra stuff but the fact its not all translated is such a downer! But this whole event is off the wall insane loved all of it
Yo I’m loving this multiverse shit this is call of duty zombies levels of twists and turns and it’s absolutely mind bendingly fascinating.
Looking at the Velbers sounds like an awesome idea! Love the video
13:44 I guess Mario is her favorite series huh
The extra references are too on point in this event. Ngl I thought it would be centered on Arcade more but it fits better to make up for Septem Nero.
Feel like Nero and Othinus(magical Index) would sit down and chat about what they went through until their respective mcs showed up to deal with them and the hell that followed them.
I'm okay sharing my name with this Nero. Not the tiny one, this new big one.
Ritsuka: Wait I didn't sign up for this
You know for a man who makes a lot of contracts he doesn't get to consent too often.😅
11:29
it's giving tardis (tiny exterior, huge interior) vibes
Great vid dude. Thank you.
One day every Fate will be in FGO
"The Kingdom Hearts Phase" had me dying😂
dude you coming with the straight up facts
Hmm I'm curious if the FGO beast Nero's Chaldea version is classified as an Altar or something else. Also hope we get Tiamat's different forms in FGO if we don't already have them.
6:25 think the better video to make is how many war crimes he’s done or taken part in
That's what the video was gonna be about. Just need some time to round them up, hes done quite a bit. Also deciding whether I should spoil LB7 to release this. We got a long wait otherwise.
@@TsiahIV 2 years. Honestly I'd rather you just talk about it. Considering (not 100% sure) but LB6 just dropped. Maybe put a spoiler warning. Idk.
I would love an event diving into the history of America considering what u said about the comparison of Rome and America being the biggest shoulders on top of the world then falling just like rome did due to greed, but if history repeats itself whos going to be in the position of Nero because its was soley nero but America is the opposite where u could say a president would be but it wouldn't really work the same, and i would love more African servants especially African Americans like leaders of slave rebellions cuz theirs a ton of them that dolves into our history
I understand there’s a whole list of reasons for Nero being a Beast based on history and myth, but I still have one question. As all the Beasts seem to have a twisted form of love of humanity and I can’t find the exact reason for Draco. I’m sure I’ve overlooked it something, but can someone help me find that answer?
Nero's love is like a combination of Kiara and goetia for reference
"a bright burning shout" wow there not even trying to hide it
do you know what’s Weird? I took a three-year break from fate yet I keep coming back.
Bro can you make a video on Mythological Mystic Code of Wrought Iron, the playable archer aka No name aka Emiya. You're the only youtuber I know who makes it seem interesting to listen to all that information from the nasuverse
requesting for a "don't sleep on ozymandias" pls
I actually want to See what Nero mother look like and at the same time I feel bad for nero.
We’ve known what she looks like for years. She looks exactly like Nero
She has an official design from the EXTRA manga which is used in LE and one of the FGO mangas
Yo an entire hour let's go
One thing I will disagree on is the standard Extra Nero. Extra took an interesting root by effectively nodding to the fact that history isn't exactly simple. People (especially when history was harder to keep records for) will disparage people they didn't like and warp history into what they preferred. That Nero isn't as evil as we'd think actually works. Especially with conflicting historical accounts on Nero. Obviously the gender flip is just pure Fate. But Nero being flawed in ways different then what some historical accounts would say actually works.
So I don't think it's fair to say "this is the REAL Nero". So much as it's closer to some of the historical accounts.
Wait a sec its like that one quote in Castelvania by Alucard
"This entire catastrophe has been nothing but history's longest suicide note!"
34:14 Is this about cu's equivalent to Spartan's rage?
hitting us it an entire movie is crazy but its fire🔥🔥
The only thing that changed is her not coming home 😢
How about covering Beast VI? That it's no longer 4 parts but 2 parts
1:01:40 it like they wanted her to be full beast again or something with the new look hate if anything I love it especially FGO lore wise of it significants
The two franchises that are convoluted af that have multiple timelines are Fate and KH
Wish Draco’s design in FGO even if censured for international was a bit closer to mother harlot in some some way but still love Beast Nero design also hope mama Tiamat was still available for players yesterday on her day.
Except that completely defeats the purpose because she’s not trying to become a beast.
If I’m being honest her going from a dragon to a wolf doesn’t really make sense
So what are the chances of beast 6 /G being in Ordeal call and with lilith being in it chances of the snake in the garden of eden being one of the main enemies.
5:11 and remember the beginning of part two on how we saved humanity but all we got is “your broke the law and now you a threat to us” welcome back yeah the question started there
I guess the devs for FGO have read the Divine Comedy and made Nero into a demonic entity.
I'm sorry mommy tiamat 😭 I'll go with you now
34:17 Blame Medb for that possibility like Gillis with Jeanne alter
honestly the questions comes did they ask to be saved did everyone ask to be saved? the answer is no, yea there are the majority that said yes and want to be saved but at the same time there are those who say no, which is the right answer? the question changes from did they ask to be saved to should i save them no matter what they say?
When does this event come out in NA?
But what if I can save everyone umu.
About the design the arcade design of her final form is the goffy one. Wtf is that headress lol the tamano ears also look goofy
Wait this is an event? Good god I thought this was all cannon in the main story.
Was this event on EN? I dont know if I missed it-
It wasn't. We have to wait until 2025 to get this event on NA.
28:50 🤔
How is it in english?
Still need Sita.
Karna and Arjuna would be way worse than Scathach and Cu Alter. Scathach, as cool as she is, shouldn't even be as strong as she is, Nasu shafted Fionn of a lot of his feats and powers and gave them to Scathach. Realistically, Fionn should be stronger than Scathach and even then he wouldn't be beating either Karna or Arjuna. I won't even talk about Cu.
It's still illogical to me that cu somehow isn't stronger than scathach lmao
Like it doesn't even make sense, he literally negs her in lore.
Fionn is also really done dirty, whenever he appears he is implied to be overpowered, yet they don't give him a single feat to back it up, he even goes out of his way to imply that diarmuid is stronger than him.
I'm really happy that at least the fgo manga did him some justice.
For karna and arjuna they are by far the most inconsistent servants in the series, they are as strong as the plot requires, they could be weak asf or op depending on which side they are on.
Karna is strong enough to move a chariot a heavier than creation itself with normal arrows and yet in fate he gets shafted by likes of gawain , sieg and cu alter.
@manosij das it's that plot bullshit at work. Lancer is his weakest class yet he still makes most other servants look weak in comparison.
Nasu just hates lancers in general I think. I'm only half joking, the only time a lancer gets actual feats/respect is when Nasu doesn't have a chokehold on the plot becauce he wants his favorite characters to win
Can you do a male king Arthur vs female king Arthur
RRRROOOOOOOMMMMAAAAAAAAA!!!
Damm I need answers on the 34:57
Fate is clusterfuck in a nutshell but still a solid game and story
Hating on the person saving everyone is as repetitive as the tsundere trope. Anime needs to evolve already.
but tbf no one saves everyone without wanting something in return. no one also saves people out of the kindness of their hearts thats just not what people will see.
@@kylesky74 yep even shiro does it solely out of self fulfillment rather than an actual kindness
As a person who hates extra in general, I don't like how it seems to permeate through all the other works. It's the type moon equivalent of an accidental pregnancy.
That's a first. I've never seen anyone hate on extra. They might disagree with parts of it but its never the whole thing. Are you basing this on the anime?
@@TsiahIV not really a fan of the games either, never liked anything that came out of the extra Timeline for real. Maybe a few characters but that's about it for the exceptions.
Devil May Cry!!!!!
So far no one has explained why nero is a beast candidate to me.
All they say is bc gawain and extra.
Well that is not an explanation.
Kiara makes since and it is explained well in story.
Tiamat dose not make since, she should be on our side.
So would some 1 with facts explain why? Do not say bc of extra.
Tldr draco partly based on how Christan saw Nero in our history, they saw him as an antichrist. She is not a beast candidate, she is a beast but weakened after being defeated in fgo arcade. Draco is beast six if you want to know what beast she is. Lastly it makes sense why tiamat is a beast since in her mythology, she kinda play a similar role as god does in the old testament. Trying to set the humans/younger gods down a right path. Also at the end of the event, draco regains her lost power
Nero is a possible beast class due to her in lore and real life relation to the beast of the apocalypse in the book of revelations. There is alot of lore surrounding Neros persecution of Christians and Jews which is why nero is related to the beast of 666
“Nrvnqsr Chaos” or just called the anti christ in general.
There are a lot of ways to interpret Nero’s beastdom due to how the book of revelation was written and the parallels with Nero and the Roman emperors of that time. So that all justifies her potential as a beast of humanity.
Tiamat is easier to explain shes a primordial mother goddess who was later depicted as primordial chaos in turn essentially manifesting as both a mother to all and a dragon seeking the destruction and remaking of the world. That is what justifies the nerfed beast Tiamat we fought in Babylonia ch.
@@sovereignlux3827 I was talking about draco. I just referred to her as Nero so It wouldn't be that confusing. But ya most beast candidates are cool. But draco in fgo arcade is a beast, also she is just a straight up beast class in fgo mobile. So it's kinda weird when people try to claim she just a candidate. Like a beast candidate is ibuki and she is nowhere near how strong a full power draco is. Also draco is the final boss of fgo arcade, and it said she just as powerful as Solomon is in fgo mobile(which I know Solomon is not the beast but I didn't want to tell people it the demon gods.) Finally draco also another half of beast six(kinda like Kiara and kama are for the third beast.)so she is not just a candidate.
@@sovereignlux3827 that what I was trying to say but didn't feel like writing it out. So thanks for going into more detail
Sooooo fujimaru gets best version of Nero then lol
Speaking as someone that isn’t a fan of Nero, I’d rather just hang out with Tiamommy and leave Beast Nero to get killed by the shadow servants
i honestly didn't like nero until this
Be pretty cool if this led to a Don't Sleep on Nero video
10:21 Nero is ever the pushy ruler huh