1990s Undertaker was always my favorite wrestler but even I have to say disgusting the way they did Bret Hart dirty in early 96. First Undertaker would have beat him clean at the Rumble if not for Diesel interfering, then Diesel would have beat him clean at In Your House if not for Undertaker interfering, then Michaels gets the win on him in the iron man match. I don’t see it as selfish for Bret Hart to be like what the hell especially if they expected him to main event WrestleMania. He didn’t go into it looking very strong at all.
Wow, Undertaker snapping, this is the first time as I'm stumbling upon classic wwe videos that I have seen that Taker was involved in a dispute. Love how Nash made it clear that Taker is really never that guy.
me too dude! this is a first for me to stumble upon classic wwe videos that I have seen that Taker was involved in a dispute. I mean back then who would've thought that Undertaker would've acted that way despite in 1996 he was 5 years into his career and still young but had some experience in knowing what the business was about... so in a way Undertaker must've caught up really quickly.
I know! I had no idea the impact he has had outside the ring on people he's worked with. I always thought he was just another wrestler, albeit more entertaining.
People say Bret Hart took wrestling business too seriously. But everything Bret Hart ever said/says in his shoot interviews, I completely identify with as a wrestling fan. He's always brutally honest. He took it all seriously because us, the fans took it all seriously. He was always nice to his fans. In a way he was protecting the wrestling fans' fantasy. He never broke kayfabe. And was always careful about not hurting his opponents in the matches. He was the man of his words. Amazingly talented wrestler with a great gimmick. I've noticed in recent years some of the people he worked with try to bury him in these 'wrestling podcasts' or try not to mention his contribution etc. but fans from that era know what Bret Hart contributed to this business. Everyone loved his matches, kids, dads, moms, grandads, grandmoms etc. He was popular all over the world. Although unintentionally, he kick started the "attitude era." He gave us the babyface Stone Cold. He elevated Shawn Michaels with all those 5 star matches with him. He gave us "Mr. Macmachon" and in a way saved WWF/E. And not to mention the countless great matches with other wrestlers. People should really stop burying him and get him involved in the current product. Nobody understands the in-ring wrestling psychology like he does.
Absolutely. I agree 100%. He was the classiest guy both in-ring and off-ring. He could be egoistic a lot though. But I guess that's what happens when you're as great a talent as the Hitman. He really was the most dedicated person to the business. The only person other than him who is just passionate about the business is the undertaker. Both great athletes. If it hadn't been for Bret, we wouldn't have even gotten Steve Austin. Another stellar performer. His work is timeless, just like Bret's. I just like this analogy- In wrestling, if Austin was the mechanic, Bret was an engineer. One of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time. God, I miss the 90s.
If anyone is wondering why Taker flipped. The finish of the match was supposed to build Diesel/Taker at WM. Diesel would hit Bret with the Jacknife, making him look tough, Taker would pull the tough guy into the ring making them look like equals. Then Bret would climb out of the cage retaining the title. For whatever reason he thought Diesel hitting his finishing move made Bret look beat. I love Bret but he did not see the bigger picture.
@@Costas22 Yeah, I don't understand how people don't get this. This scenario makes Bret, who was champion, look weaker than both Taker and Diesel, leading up to WM. He had already put Diesel over by letting him Jackknife him over and over after he beat him with the sneak small package pin.
What amazes me is how much Kevin can recall after killing so many brain cells over the years. He's obviously not just a bright guy, but also an insightful person and a great storyteller. I love these clips.
Dude 25 years of damage and he can speak and look that good he won that lotto compared to so many others who cannot even lift their dick to take a piss now.
The fact that he's told this same story on more than one occasion with the same details proves it may have been true. I'm sure it didn't affect their personal relationship and that was a one time occasion it seems. Taker and Bret both speak very highly of one another, so I'm sure they're still friends. The day after Owen's passing, Taker flew to Calgary to see Bret, which is why he didn't show up to the Raw is Owen show.
I can see both sides of it. Taker and Nash wanted to build heat for their match at WM XII. But from Bret's side, he had already pretty much lost the Royal Rumble match to Taker when Nash cost Taker the match. So Bret was already looking a bit weak as the champion. Doing the same thing a month later wouldn't have helped his main event WM match with Shawn, which would have been the next PPV. I always felt WWE was making Bret look as weak as possible heading into WM XII. Shawn was their new star. Bret got run into the ground in the months before the match since management knew he was losing and then taking time off anyway. Shawn in the meantime was given a few months off to get in great shape and prepare for his title run. The vignettes they ran for their match were awful. It totally gave away that Shawn was winning. They had Shawn looking great in training and talking about his life's dream while Bret was seen jogging like an old man on ice and being beaten up and stretched by 80 year old Stu. I saw those and thought "Gee, I wonder who's winning this match". And if that didn't give it away, Shawn zip lining into the ring before the match certainly should have. Too bad really as these were the two biggest stars at the time and the build up to the match should have been awesome.
Tony C Very good comment man. The thing that really gets to me the most about it this. Everyone shits all over Nash and HBK and says the don't do jobs, for one that's BS and 2 how come no one ever says that about Bret Hart? I don't think most fans realize that aftr Bret beat Flair for the WWF title back in 1992 that Bret only did 2 clean jobs for the rest of his WWF career. In those SIX YEARS he only did 2 clean jobs. 1 was for his own brother Owen and that same night he beat Yoko for the WWF title in the main event at WM 10 so its not like that match hurt him at all. the other was to hbk at WM12. People wonder why Vince had to do what he did to Bret on the night of the screw job. He did it because Bret's in the same class that guys like Piper and Goldberg are in. They are MARKS for them selves.
Brian Rose You are right about that. Most champions in their prime (for Bret I would say 92'-97') don't drop titles cleanly often. I would point out that Bret was a glorified jobber from 84'-91' when he wrestled in singles. I realize his tag team work with the Hart Foundation was his bread and butter at that time. He also jobbed out cleanly quite a bit at WCW to the likes of DDP, Piper, Luger and Booker T. I know Bret didn't job out much during his prime in WWE but HBK jobbed out zero times between beating Bret at WM XII and losing to Austin at WM XIV. I don't count the loss to Austin as clean either as Mike Tyson was heavily involved in the finish.
Bret had a point. Twice in a row on PPV before heading into the main event at Wrestlemania, they wanted to make it look like his opponents had him beat for the championship had it not been for interference. Not exactly the way you book a babyface champion heading into Mania.
MGladwell Bret got hit with the Tombstone at the Rumble... No one had ever kicked out of a Tombstone Piledriver before at that point. It was the most protected finisher in the company In fact, hardly anyone had kicked out of a finisher before period. Kicking out of finishers (especially doing so multiple times) is something that really only began happening in the Attitude Era. I'm aware that Bret is his own biggest mark, but he did have a point here.
Here’s the thing: Brett took himself to seriously. But also he was refusing to play ball with the dudes from the Kliq cause of them trying to run everything. So I can see it both sides
+Kira Lawlet Yeah, he comes off like that, but Bret really was all about what really made the most sense. What Nash and Taker wanted would have made the face champion look weak.
+Jesot X Yeah and i'm sure Nash is over exaggerating the story, since Taker was asked about it and said he didn't remember that happening but Bret had already done this exact same thing at the Royal Rumble for Taker, he was about to win the title and Nash interrupts, so doing it again wouldn't make sense, it just makes it look like anyone can beat the champion.
+Kira Lawlet the thing that stood in my mind from watching it on tv was a promo HBK was doing with bret in the ring and hbk said "you think all this is yours" the way he said it you can tell HBK wanted to say you think all this is REAL. That sums up bret.
I don't really take anything Nash says serious or truthful. But I never needed his words to tell me that Undertaker is great. He was one of the best and his character was perfect plus Paul Bearer was hilarious. I loved those guys back in the day. That era was the best. 1984-1994 ten year run was perfect.
1:14 Even if he's just quoting Undertaker, it's so ironic hearing, of all people, Kevin Nash say these words. His egomania actually helped destroy companies. Then again, this is Kevin Nash, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
He praises and criticizes both. He does criticize Shawn for sabotaging the Wrestlemania match, but says his two best matches were with them (Survivor Series 1995 and In Your House: Good Friends, Better Enemies).
Actually Nash doesn't, he blasts HBK for the sandbag incident but then says that he had two great matches with HBK at IYH Good Friends, Better Enemies and Survivor Series 1995.
Nash says in this interview that Shawn took the worst powerbomb in the history of pro wrestling in that match and that he did it solely out of self interest. But he said that they’re independent contractors and that it’s a business.
When I worked at hertz rent a car in Detroit I had the job of bring vip or " gold members " their cars to the airport. I was always very busy on wwe days.i wasn't a big fan of wrestling so I was never star struck. I used to love picking up Mark. He was a cool dude always. He was always out of character so he would talk to you. Such a nice guy.
Nash just admitted he wanted to look like he beat Bret just as taker had. From Bret’s perspective he’s jobbing to 2 guys in a row just to put over their match (and they don’t need it lol). If it was leading to a big match with Bret that’s one thing... but who would do this to their world champ? I assume that’s why Vince ultimately killed it. What champ would happily do this? Would hogan? Lol. Flair? Michaels? Austin? Taker wouldn’t !
I've heard many people say both kind and unkind things about Bret, but never have I ever heard anyone say "Man, that Undertaker Diesel match would have been so much better if Bret had just taken Diesel's jackknife!!"
tbh nash at the time thaught him micheals was the it thing nash rode shauns coat tails while in wwe only thing he had going was his size and we all knows vince like his boys big big cyd giant gonzalas kevin nash razor ramoan even kane without the gimmic it woule be issack yankem ddr or fake diesel still and nash had 1 offensive move power bomb even hogan all he had was poses and leg drop of doom gimmics
It’s extremely rare for both the fans and the coworkers to have such a high level of respect for somebody. Having a career where he stayed relevant the entire time, good in-ring psychology, good storylines, good matches, evolving his character, and never taking a full year off from 1987 to 2020. Definitely the wrestling GOAT.
CarloisBuriedAlive I love the guy but he was never the in ring worker that Bret or Shawn was. Take a look at his WM7 to WM15 matches. They’re not good. Bret and Shawn are higher on the goat list than Taker. I think Austin is the overall goat despite not being the in-ring worker that Bret and Shawn were. Austin saved the WWF and destroyed WCW.
I really wish Undertaker would still work with the WWE. Not as a wrestler, but someone who has control behind the scenes. But I understand that he wants to retire and he sure as Hell deserves it! He made my childhood amazing!
@@theder16 I think a part of it was that if you ever watched how he was doing the jackknife there were occasions that it was not done so cleanly... and I think it was also a case of egos and we all know the kliq had already been an issue at that time, and Bret had to look out for himself when you realize Hogan/Warrior could just return and squash you at anytime and remember the Nash Hogan bookings, they destroyed WCW with their selfish booking...
Good on taker. I could listen to Kevin Nash shoot all day. Speaks so well, intelligent and a sense of humour. No wonder he ran WCW. "It's all a WORK, you MARK!"
I always agreed with bret in this instance. To be the man you got to beat the man, and there is no way that Michael's can claim to be "the man" if bret essentially lost to the undertaker, lost to diesel, and then Michaels needs 60 mins plus extra time to beat Bret. Bret ends up looking like a chump. Sure he has to out Michaels over, but it means nothing in he puts everyone else over along the way
Diesel didn’t want to beat Bret. He just wanted Bret to take the power-bomb; implying that had it not been for the Undertaker, he would have been able to get out of the cage, as Bret laid there motionless. This would have added a lot more more drama to there WrestleMaina match. Bret’s fear was that the “marks” would think he lost the match if he took the finish.
Bret was wrong here, he was wrong when he refused to lose to Shawn forcing Vince’s hand in what’s now “the Montreal screw job” he was an egotistical fuck, and thought he was the only one who mattered. I don’t buy the excuse that it’s a perception thing for the fans blah blah blah, if up to him he would be undefeated. NO, your not special, be a team player and cut your shit. look at his WCW stint. It was trash compared to his run in the WWF. Probably because bischoff wasn’t gonna take his shit, Vince I think had fucked up giving Bret some creative control. Or he had a say in win/lose decisions. Those decisions need to be in one man’s hands and that’s VINCE
@@RossMcCarthy1990 No it wouldnt. Champions lose to heels. Its not some new thing. especially not to a 7 ft main eventer in a cage. Its more believable to believe Diesel COULD HAVE won. Bet was in it for himself. Instead of doing whats best for business. Thats why Undertaker snapped.
You are just a hater and ignorant Without Kevin Nash and Scott Hall = no nwo Because of the nwo WCW has beaten the WWF in the ratings for 83 weeks nash with nwo = drew nash with nwo wolfpac = drew
Selfish is one way of looking at it, but Nash was in the Kliq and since they had Vince's ear I can understand Bret looking out for himself here. Nash sure as Hell wasn't going to do it.
This is where Nash's wrestling IQ went out the window. He could not see the big picture in the long run. Which is what Brett was trying to explain to him. This isn't about arrogance. And I highly doubt that the undertaker yelled at him.
Thing is... Bret viewed his match with Shawn like Hogan vs Warrior. Two top babyfaces trying to simply showcase who was the best. The build was simple, it's like two sports team winning their conference and facing off in the final to take home the championship. He didn't want to go into the match staggering and people doubting if he belonged there... While Shawn came fresh off of winning the Royal Rumble in impressive fashion. Bret having a good showing before Wrestlemania would have created a nice build of two top workers going after the belt. But I also understand Diesel/Taker's point of view. Those guys are also main event guys and they weren't in the final match that year. So they have to create a scenario of why they aren't. Funny thing is, 2 years after, they did the same thing to build Shawn vs Austin by having Kane screw Taker at Royal Rumble 98. But that angle works better when the champ is a heel, not a babyface, that Bret was. The cage match finish already made Bret win via opportunity, and not being better than his opponent. Taking the powerbomb all but made fans believe he shouldn't have won and go to Wrestlemania in the first place.
You’re overthinking it. Bret Hart was already leaving for a hiatus after Mania so it didn’t matter that Bret look strong. Hell Bret won the title from Diesel on a fluke inside cradle
Brett in many interviews said his last match he refused to loose in Montreal and dead set on this. To pass the torch or go out on your shield for the next generation to continue the legacy is what should of happened. Add a paranoid Vince not wanting Brett to take the belt on WCW made a really dumb decision. That is the problem of having creative, staff, and owners all trying to make decisions this is why we have creative and talent separate and it may not be perfect but we do not have all this drama anymore.
As good as that proposed finish would have made Taker vs Diesel. It wouldve hurt Brett would would have devalued Shawn's win at Mania. End of the day that Ironman match was epic and Taker vs Disel was not.
I’ve seen Taker vs Diesel, it was an okay match. By itself it’s alright but yeah, next to Shawn and Bret’s iron man match, it’s not a special match whatsoever.
one of many storys,taker telling vince mcmahon to go down to bret locker room after the screwjob,taker tellin shawn to get stonecold over at WM,taker is just straight up old school and doin the right thing while gaining respect from everyone !
I can understand why they would be frustrated but you have to put yourself in Bret's shoes. Despite what Nash wants to think the Main Event of Wrestlemania was Bret vs. Shawn. That was the match that they hyped for months and put on all the billboards. So ultimately you want your main event to look as good as possible. Bret as champ got a no decision at the December PPV, looked terrible against Taker at the January PPV, and was going to look bad against Nash at the February PPV then he was going to drop the strap at Mania. So he looks like shit for 4 months as champ as a BABYFACE. Who else at that time would agree to that? Either way it was going to look like Bret got help beating Nash but Bret wanted to atleast make himself look competent going into the Mania Main event. I don't think that is too much to ask.
Give and take is something Brett did not do to well. Getting power bombed through a floor and getting back up would show how he was the GOAT. Brett always wanted the Wins, Michaels was drugged up to the clouds and the people in the middle were cannon fodder. Give and take......
protecting your character is such a lost art. I wouldn't mind if current WWE guys started caring about the matches a little more than the shitty stories that don't have any consequences or continuity.
That was the problem everyone wanted to be champ and trying to get them to sort it out blew up. Now Vince calls all the shots of who how and why is handled. Why we have writers and we have actors and when a actor writes a movie 90% of the time it is crap.
Bret was the elder in the locker room until he left but it makes sense. You got 3 top guys arguing about a finish to a match, it should be equal going in, and Bret was losing at 12 to Shawn, who'd be a bigger pain in the ass for top guys or those looking to break through upper mid card.
i see what you did there lol. But vince still shouldnt of did what he did, bret told vince he had no problem dropping the belt just not in that match in canada
Araa Hero yeah your right. The Undertaker must have one of the records for being screwed out of the world championship the most even though hes like a 8 time world champion could of had alot more.
The funny thing about Nash speaking on this is he wasn't there! Undertaker himself speaks on it and acknowledged Brett knocked Vince out and that is when Undertaker became the locker room leader, Undertaker was pissed off as well as all the wrestlers that night not Sean Michael's. Undertaker from that point on became mediator between the office and the wrestlers, Undertaker offered to wrestle Brett and Brett would drop to him and he'd drop to HBK the next event but Vince wanted to screw Brett because he was going to WCW. Fact is Vince McMahon fucked over the Hart family at every turn and it cost them Owen and a lot of heartache and pain
You haven't a clue, you are referencing the Screwjob, 21 months AFTER this! Then there's the unsubstantiated timeline of locker room leader, and all the misspellings. Utter tripe.
That's actually some bs here. Taker saying it is not always about you when Bret basically was a supporting character in the feud between Taker and Nash although he's the champion is egotistical af. It was all about Taker vs Nash two PPV Main Events for Bret in a row.
From all these shoot interviews I've listened to, what Bret did is a common game most of the top guys were playing. Hart, Hogan, HBK, Piper, Warrior, the list goes on and on. The politics seemed necessary because if you didn't play the game, the game played you.
Classic case of everything had to go Bretts way or he threw a fit. He still doesn’t understand that the screw job happened because of this very reason.
When the Montreal screw job first happened, I felt like Bret was the victim, but my opinion has really evolved over the years. It sounds like Vince really tried to appease Bret but it was never enough
With everything I have heard about the screw job, I feel Jim Cornette said it best when he said, "It was the biggest clusterf*** in the history of clusterf***s." In my opinion, everybody takes some blame here. Firstly, Vince should have told Bret the second he realized he couldn't pay him, "before you talk to WCW, we need to take the belt off you." If he was that concerned about Bischoff revealing on Nitro that they had signed the WWF Champion, they should have taken the belt off Bret before they allowed him to negotiate. Secondly, when Bret told Shawn, "Hey, I just found out we'll be working together at Survivor Series. I know we've had some differences this year but I'm happy to work with you and drop the belt to you" and Shawn responded "Thanks but just so you know, I wouldn't do the same." That was way out of line and I don't blame Bret for not wanting to do business with Shawn after that. Third, as the son of a wrestling promoter, did Bret honestly think it would help the company to just HAND the belt over the next night? That would have been twice in the span of one year that the World Championship was handed over on Raw. First with Shawn losing his smile. And not agreeing to drop the belt before the show if he didn't want to lose in Canada? Pure bs to me. And if Shawn was that much of an issue with Bret, they should have put Taker in there as a transitional champ for him to drop the belt to Shawn at the '98 Rumble.
Vince had no choice but to screw Bret over, the fact is Bret was being a selfish baby & refused to drop the belt... He didn’t wanna do the job on his way out the door so Vince had no other option but to take it from him by any means necessary. Bret didn’t wanna do business so he got screwed, it’s really that simple.
Even as a Bret fan, and as a Canadian, I can say Bret deserved what he got.The screwjob was 100% his own damn fault. Thought he was hot shit and didn't wanna put anyone over. Always tried to weasel his way out of it. Tell me something; if Bret was such hot shit, why were his days as WWF Champion the days that took McMahon to near bankruptcy for his company? Meanwhile, we have people like John Cena and Triple H, who fans say "bury everyone", regardless of the fact that they cleanly put over talent like Kevin Steen, Shelton Benjamin, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk just to name a few. Nah, Bret was everything that was wrong with the business at the time. He was a GREAT wrestler, but he had ZERO charisma. People talked about Hulk Hogan politicking all the time. Hogan put over Goldberg, Billy Kidman, Sting, The Rock, Warrior, Randy Savage, DDP, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Edge etc. Ironically, the only ones he refused to put over were Jeff Jarret and Bret Hart, and when it comes to them (especially Jarret), I completely understand why. As far as politics goes, Bret's ego got the most of him and ended up one of the worst of all time for backstage politics, and he was never really a draw. ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES BRET HART GOT, SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO OWEN INSTEAD. OWEN HART HAD EVERYTHING. He was the complete package.
+RaVeN19Dizzle Yeah, funny how Bret hates Hogan for not "passing the torch" to him, yet did the same thing to HBK. The latter may have been a prick, but if Scumbag Hart was "truly" above the political shit that he brags to be, then he'd have done what McMahon wanted him to do. He is an utter hypocrite, & extremely arrogant.
+RaVeN19Dizzle He told Shawn in the locker room in the middle of the year that he wanted to put all their quarreling aside and that he'd be happy to put him over if/when the time came and Shawn's response, in-front of several other wrestlers, was "I appreciate that but I'm not willing to do the same for you" After that Bret was no longer willing to do the job for Michaels. Bret was happy to put over Austin, Shamrock, Mankind or Taker though and there was plenty of time to make that happen but Vince was insistent on doing the big WM rematch. Vince and Shawn were just as stubborn if not a whole lot more so than Bret as far as that whole saga goes.
+HankJennings "Yeah, funny how Bret hates Hogan for not "passing the torch" to him, yet did the same thing to HBK. " -Beacause WM12 never happened right? Moron.
+Jim Dandy No, MORON. Do you even know what the phrase "passing the torch" means? How did he "pass the torch" to HBK at WM 12 if he was still going to be with the company until roughly a year & a half later. That whinger Bret pissed & moans about Hogan not doing it on his way out, but he did the same fucking thing at Survivor Series. I never said he didn't put HBK over at Mania. He refused to "pass the torch" on his way out, which resulted in the screwjob, which he was too stupid to not see coming. Bret likes to preach about how he is above the ego & political bullshit. If that is the case then he should have done what McMahon wanted. He would have come out the bigger man doing the job at Survivor Series. Instead, he is just a hypocrite, & a whinger. It doesn't matter if HBK was an egotistical prick. If the whinger Hart was above this shit, he'd have done it. Turns out he is no better than Hogan. And the fact that he still whinges about him shows what kind of bitter, whiney hypocrite he is. Even more despicable is how he used Piper's death to attack Hogan yet again. Hart is a scumbag.
HankJennings So Bret should've just retired after WM12? The plan was to do further business once Bret returned from his planned hiatus in 1996. I'm not sure if/when Shawn was going to "return the favor" but the plan was to continue the feud at a later point. I conceded that Bret was stubborn but Montreal could still have been avoided. Things became to personal between Bret and Shawn in 1997 so they should've just been kept apart but Vince was insistent on doing the big re-match even after several backstage incidents including the fight they had when Bret pulled Shawn's hair out. Bret just doing a clean job would've and ended up being a lousy conclusion to Bret's whole heel run throughout 1997 and the feud with Michaels in general. Bret could've dropped the title on RAW to Shamrock, who was red hot at the time, before Survivor Series and then had the match with Michaels at Survivor Series end in a DQ with The Harts and DX interfering. Bret gets kicked out of the Hart Foundation the next night on RAW and leaves for WCW while Michaels takes the belt from Shamrock the next month at DX: IYH. That scenario would've worked just fine.
Ironically, in an interview with Chris Jericho Edge said something along the lines of knowing he made it when backstage before one of their matches Taker said he was on the same level as Hart (and one other wrestler, I think either Austin or Shawn - I don´t remember which one now).
In terms of popularity or star power? Probably. In terms of how good a wrestler he was, specifically according to the Undertaker? He may well have been.
I thought the IWC scurried to ban videos like this? As we say in the IWC. Long live Bret and Benoit, he didn't mean it his dad paid a doctor to say he say he was 80 and couldn't find his way to the arena.!!!
I remember working at the movie theatre as a theatre walker watching the punisher for a couple minutes lol I'm like why does dude look familiar oh shit that's Kevin's nash diesel 🤣🤣😆😆
Until the Undertaker verifies it, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Hart and Undertaker seemed to have genuine respect for one another so it is hard to see The Undertaker yelling at Bret Hart in front of everyone. Is it possible it happened. Yeah, but Nash's word is not enough for me when he clearly had Real hate for Bret Hart.
I hear what you're saying dude.. but I honestly think Brett's little hiss fits may have struck Takers nerve regardless of the respect factor. As for Nash saying Taker said "Motherfucker" is 50 50. Hilarious if he did tho. Lol
In brets defence, he was upset they were making him look weak leading up to mania and he felt he should be booked strong to make his match with hbk mean more. Instead he says he feels like he was just holding the belt and giving it away to shawn at mania and he was being booked like a weak champ. Thats why he didnt want to take his finish cuz it would make him look weaker instead of being dominant and strong for when he fought hbk the following month.
Hey guess what? Bret was the champ and he worked with EVERYBODY. He worked with Hakushi ffs trying to help the wwf look better, by trying his best to give a rub to undercarders...nobody else would do that..certainly not the boy toy, who only worked with his buddies at the time. Bret helps Austin, says I see a lot in that guy, let me work with him. Bret helps the Rock, teaches him things...know what HBK did? Scoffed at the Rock. To this day the Rock doesnt much care for HBK. Without Bret, the company doesnt get to where it was. Taker loves Bret. Bret gave him his best matches. Like he did with most everybody. Also, why should Bret be made to look weaker going into THE MAIN EVENT OF WM12 against HBK? Would HBK agree to look weak before a big match like that? Nope. So why should Bret? Just for some undercard match in diesel and taker...when diesel was leaving for wcw anyway? Yeah ok.
I'm not sure I'd call the second-biggest draw on the card a mere 'undercard match', especially since it featured two of WWE's biggest names at the time (essentially the biggest except for the Hitman and HBK), but I do see where you're coming from. I personally don't see why they couldn't just have Nash powerbomb Hart after a grueling match, have him resort to a desperation one-arm-draped-across-the-torso pin, and have Champion Bret kick out. He's the Champion for a reason, he can kick out of a finish from an exhausted opponent who can't even get a proper pin because he's so tired. Even if that finish is a Jackknife Powerbomb, because Nash basically lets gravity do the real work, anyways. There's no extra driving force.
SCSA was already hot by the time he faced Bret. Steve was coming off of the Jake the snake feud where 3:16 was born. The significance of the SCSA, Bret feud was the turn. The fans turned on Bret and turned Steve face.
Why would Bret lose 2x in a row before his main event fight at Wrestlemania 12? I think Bret was right and Nash and Taker need to understand that they are not the main event of the main show of that year. Taker is wrong on this one. Also I dont like how Nash is using Taker's locker room reputation to verify his opinion.
I totally concur. They are trying to put themselves over at the expense of Bret, who is the current champion. Bret already put Kevin over after his small package roll up victory, and then letting Kevin Jackknife him into oblivion. That match made Diesel look like an absolute beast.
Same with me with Taker and Stone Cold. Those Texan men don’t play and they’re one of the last ppl you want to piss off. The only two wrestlers I would be even more scared of pissing off more than Stone Cold and Undertaker are Brock Lesnar and Goldberg.
Even though I'm skeptical about this due to only hearing one side of it, I do accept that if it were true then Undertaker was right to say what he said even though there are two ways of looking at it. Bret also needed to look good going in to his main event match with HBK so I think if there had been a way to make both look good then that would have been the best way by making the match as eventful as possible. If you could somehow make both look like they had each other beat at different times in the match, that may have worked. However, you could argue that Undertaker had Bret beat at Royal Rumble and that Diesel needs to look as though he's a match for Taker. Bret has beaten Diesel before so I don't actually think Bret taking his finisher would have been that big of a deal. If I had been in Taker's position, I would have said something. Having said that, I may have even felt the same way as Bret did if I had been in his position because if he felt as though he was losing momentum or popularity and was about to lose his place at the top then he isn't going to want anything else to add to it. Personally, I don't think taking Nash's finisher would add to it but in his mind, he probably felt like it would. Maybe he was in a bad place at the time because of the whole Kliq thing, which Nash was part of and he knew he was facing HBK at Mania. Maybe the backstage politicking of the Kliq, if that is what they were doing, frustrated him to the point that he started doing the same in response to it. That doesn't make it right but it would be understandable. The point is he'd want to be red hot going in to Mania, particularly if he's dropping his title. All 4 of them, Bret, HBK, Diesel and Undertaker would have all wanted that so I guess there was some inevitable conflict that arose. Outside of this, I hear that Undertaker and Bret had a lot of respect for each other. Outside of this, I have never heard about things getting heated between the two of them. I think they had a good working relationship. If Bret was unreasonable then there would have been conflict between the two of them on more than one occasion. If this argument happened, maybe they were both in a bad mood that day. There could have been all sorts of personal shit going on. From what I know about Bret and Undertaker, I would say that both guys were very respectful of their co-workers, unless you crossed them. They both speak highly of one another and I still have my doubts about how much of this story is true.
-Agreed. I think too, that they may have just had a disagreement, and got into it for a while, but otherwise were cool with each other, and mutually respectful. I also get what you mean about Nash too, like maybe he embellished it a bit. Like you say, though, take it with a grain of salt.
i wholeheartedly agree with taker's stance and snapping at bret hart, bret is one of the best of all time but his ego back then was huge and not much has changed today, he is not on hogan's level with ego but he really was a mark for himself.
Nah, Taker was in the wrong here. He didn't speak up because Bret had a big ego. He spoke up because Taker had the big ego that his match against Nash was more important than Bret vs Shawn.
Taker has not confirmed this story as far as I'm aware. It doesn't make a lot of sense, Nash wants the top guy in the company to take his finish and be beat. imagine asking Hogan, Austin or Rock to do that. Ridiculous.
to be honest, aside from maybe Shamrock, I'd pick Bret in a fight over anyone in the company at the time. Taker was all talk, even Pillman trashed him in his book.
Nash complains about this but has no problem doing the finger poke of death lol. dude was champion for a calendar year. he was champ in wcw for like a day?
I don't like Nash!!! he doesn't care about wrestling, he only cares about the money he makes. Undertaker cares about this business and cares about doing whats right.
He's so egotistical and narcissistic that he never faces the mirror so all his venom gotta go to guys who were his peers or those who passed him along time go..examples Hogan,Flair,Shawn,Hunter.
That's Bret's problem. He thinks he 's the best there is, blah blah, but his ego has disqualified him from the very argument. (and he was boring as hell on the mic, don't @ me)
I know a few wrestlers who had bad things say about Bret Hart but idgaf Bret is one of my favorites an plus he's been through an he's a very good wrestler
It made sense for the angle to have Taker screw Diesel in revenge. Add more heat to the feud. I can see from Bret's perspective - having the World Champ look weak by having two lucky get out jail free cards. Especially as a face character. I dont think it took away from HBK's win in the end. But I can see his reservation.
But not really, because every match (usually), the end is really close. So basically, the stakes are higher. When Diesel and Hart fight, it's not one sided.
@@outis439-A It's all about the finish. Taker had Bret beat. And Diesel had Bret beat. So your champion going into Wrestlemania looked on borrowed time. The belt was still a big deal back then. Fortunately, it didn't hurt anyone.
Bret was a workhorse, generational wrestler. He toiled in the lower to mid card, sacrificing his family life, and financial future to make it on top. No one in 1985 thought Bret would be world champion. So please forgive the "markman" for giving a s*** about his career...PS Nash's best friend is HBK lmao.
People who lie for a living give first hand accounts of events no one can prove and for fans who's confirmation bias is already set in stone... Talk about being played twice...
All these years later I’m still shocked Bret was able to wrestle in an arena considering the size of his ego. Unless you were a Canadian wrestler or a member of his family, Bret wasn’t going to agree to anything. He’s a great wrestler, but he was a complete a$$hole to deal with.
Bret was a great mechanic but that's all he was.Bad interview skills, bad at doing business, very few memorable storylines or things to make you actually care that weren't a result of him acting like his own biggest fan. He was also disgustingly homophobic for a guy draped in pink hearts. Much as I enjoyed those matches I never really missed him like I do others.
Oh so him not liking gay people is homophobic right. Him not liking 2 guys doing it because he's straight is gay. Your a fucking idiot. Also Brets ego went wild and taker put him in his place.
I used to like Bret Hart and thought the Montreal thing was terrible and that he had been screwed over. The more Bret Hart interviews I watch and the more I see him still whining to this day, the more I'm starting to believe stories like this. Kevin Nash seems to be writing some of his own history in these interviews but I'm finding this one very easy to believe.
When The Undertaker says something in the locker room to you, you listen.
Michael Keller fuck the undertaker bret is the best
@Thats Cj you're a child if you cant distinguish between who's talking shit and whos not.
Hollywood MK not at this time, bret was the locker room leader since he had been there the longest.
@@sleazyfellow taker took that job didn't he? Pretty damn fucking quick
1990s Undertaker was always my favorite wrestler but even I have to say disgusting the way they did Bret Hart dirty in early 96. First Undertaker would have beat him clean at the Rumble if not for Diesel interfering, then Diesel would have beat him clean at In Your House if not for Undertaker interfering, then Michaels gets the win on him in the iron man match. I don’t see it as selfish for Bret Hart to be like what the hell especially if they expected him to main event WrestleMania. He didn’t go into it looking very strong at all.
Wow, Undertaker snapping, this is the first time as I'm stumbling upon classic wwe videos that I have seen that Taker was involved in a dispute. Love how Nash made it clear that Taker is really never that guy.
me too dude! this is a first for me to stumble upon classic wwe videos that I have seen that Taker was involved in a dispute. I mean back then who would've thought that Undertaker would've acted that way despite in 1996 he was 5 years into his career and still young but had some experience in knowing what the business was about... so in a way Undertaker must've caught up really quickly.
+Kanefan701 that's why taker is still around and the leader in that locker room.
@Dennis Leavitt what I meant in the WWE.
@Michael Richmond Jr One can only picture what it would've been like in the locker room at the time.
@@joshb20101 yeah cuz he does everything vince tells him. Hes too obedient to the satan
Every wrestler always seems to have good things to say about Undertaker. Must be a cool guy to now off stage.
And a bad guy to piss off backstage 😂
I know! I had no idea the impact he has had outside the ring on people he's worked with. I always thought he was just another wrestler, albeit more entertaining.
@Jj bruh I thought u was finna be serious😂😂
He truly is. Met him at Comic-Con in 99' or 00'. Cool as hell. So was Kane. Kane was awesome...
Dark side of the ring is exposing things now so lets wait and see
People say Bret Hart took wrestling business too seriously. But everything Bret Hart ever said/says in his shoot interviews, I completely identify with as a wrestling fan. He's always brutally honest.
He took it all seriously because us, the fans took it all seriously. He was always nice to his fans. In a way he was protecting the wrestling fans' fantasy. He never broke kayfabe. And was always careful about not hurting his opponents in the matches.
He was the man of his words. Amazingly talented wrestler with a great gimmick.
I've noticed in recent years some of the people he worked with try to bury him in these 'wrestling podcasts' or try not to mention his contribution etc. but fans from that era know what Bret Hart contributed to this business.
Everyone loved his matches, kids, dads, moms, grandads, grandmoms etc. He was popular all over the world. Although unintentionally, he kick started the "attitude era." He gave us the babyface Stone Cold. He elevated Shawn Michaels with all those 5 star matches with him. He gave us "Mr. Macmachon" and in a way saved WWF/E. And not to mention the countless great matches with other wrestlers.
People should really stop burying him and get him involved in the current product. Nobody understands the in-ring wrestling psychology like he does.
+Mike J Why not? As long as it's my own comment and it's relevant to the video.
Absolutely. I agree 100%. He was the classiest guy both in-ring and off-ring. He could be egoistic a lot though. But I guess that's what happens when you're as great a talent as the Hitman. He really was the most dedicated person to the business. The only person other than him who is just passionate about the business is the undertaker. Both great athletes. If it hadn't been for Bret, we wouldn't have even gotten Steve Austin. Another stellar performer. His work is timeless, just like Bret's. I just like this analogy- In wrestling, if Austin was the mechanic, Bret was an engineer. One of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time. God, I miss the 90s.
+Rahul Agarwal bret is not difficult to work with, hè had his reason why he does'nt put anybody over at the time
Bret is the greatest of all time.
+Pritam Jaykar idk he kept beating me in 2k16 so i dont like him anymore :p
If anyone is wondering why Taker flipped. The finish of the match was supposed to build Diesel/Taker at WM. Diesel would hit Bret with the Jacknife, making him look tough, Taker would pull the tough guy into the ring making them look like equals. Then Bret would climb out of the cage retaining the title. For whatever reason he thought Diesel hitting his finishing move made Bret look beat. I love Bret but he did not see the bigger picture.
Shit I wouldn't take the powrrbomb either
@@shaunsmith3167 What about a Powerdump?
@@mikehunt4797 How about putting your mouth on someone else punk
@TheVolourn LOL, funniest thing I've read on UA-cam in a long while.
@@Costas22 Yeah, I don't understand how people don't get this. This scenario makes Bret, who was champion, look weaker than both Taker and Diesel, leading up to WM. He had already put Diesel over by letting him Jackknife him over and over after he beat him with the sneak small package pin.
gotta love taker
What amazes me is how much Kevin can recall after killing so many brain cells over the years. He's obviously not just a bright guy, but also an insightful person and a great storyteller. I love these clips.
You can clearly hear him struggling with cognition and getting a sentence out though.
Jack Kitchen stoned
+Icon of Sin not really
Dude 25 years of damage and he can speak and look that good he won that lotto compared to so many others who cannot even lift their dick to take a piss now.
Weird. Taker always spoke extremely well of Bret Hart. It was Shawn that he said frustrated him personally.
The fact that he's told this same story on more than one occasion with the same details proves it may have been true. I'm sure it didn't affect their personal relationship and that was a one time occasion it seems. Taker and Bret both speak very highly of one another, so I'm sure they're still friends. The day after Owen's passing, Taker flew to Calgary to see Bret, which is why he didn't show up to the Raw is Owen show.
How is that weird? Where does Nash say taker didn't like Bret?
Taker was a professional. Professionals don't take it personally.
Ricky Lucas yes it’s one thing that Kevin Nash said that’s true in relation to the Undertaker
Everyone has disagreements
I can see both sides of it. Taker and Nash wanted to build heat for their match at WM XII. But from Bret's side, he had already pretty much lost the Royal Rumble match to Taker when Nash cost Taker the match. So Bret was already looking a bit weak as the champion. Doing the same thing a month later wouldn't have helped his main event WM match with Shawn, which would have been the next PPV. I always felt WWE was making Bret look as weak as possible heading into WM XII. Shawn was their new star. Bret got run into the ground in the months before the match since management knew he was losing and then taking time off anyway. Shawn in the meantime was given a few months off to get in great shape and prepare for his title run. The vignettes they ran for their match were awful. It totally gave away that Shawn was winning. They had Shawn looking great in training and talking about his life's dream while Bret was seen jogging like an old man on ice and being beaten up and stretched by 80 year old Stu. I saw those and thought "Gee, I wonder who's winning this match". And if that didn't give it away, Shawn zip lining into the ring before the match certainly should have. Too bad really as these were the two biggest stars at the time and the build up to the match should have been awesome.
Agree
True! Good comment
Tony C I completely agree. Both times, both Taker and Nash have Bret beat. Not the best way to make Bret look strong going into Mania against HBK.
Tony C Very good comment man. The thing that really gets to me the most about it this. Everyone shits all over Nash and HBK and says the don't do jobs, for one that's BS and 2 how come no one ever says that about Bret Hart? I don't think most fans realize that aftr Bret beat Flair for the WWF title back in 1992 that Bret only did 2 clean jobs for the rest of his WWF career. In those SIX YEARS he only did 2 clean jobs. 1 was for his own brother Owen and that same night he beat Yoko for the WWF title in the main event at WM 10 so its not like that match hurt him at all. the other was to hbk at WM12.
People wonder why Vince had to do what he did to Bret on the night of the screw job. He did it because Bret's in the same class that guys like Piper and Goldberg are in. They are MARKS for them selves.
Brian Rose You are right about that. Most champions in their prime (for Bret I would say 92'-97') don't drop titles cleanly often. I would point out that Bret was a glorified jobber from 84'-91' when he wrestled in singles. I realize his tag team work with the Hart Foundation was his bread and butter at that time. He also jobbed out cleanly quite a bit at WCW to the likes of DDP, Piper, Luger and Booker T. I know Bret didn't job out much during his prime in WWE but HBK jobbed out zero times between beating Bret at WM XII and losing to Austin at WM XIV. I don't count the loss to Austin as clean either as Mike Tyson was heavily involved in the finish.
Bret had a point. Twice in a row on PPV before heading into the main event at Wrestlemania, they wanted to make it look like his opponents had him beat for the championship had it not been for interference. Not exactly the way you book a babyface champion heading into Mania.
had a reason why it is not A rematch between shawn michaels and kevin nash at wrestlemania
MGladwell Bret got hit with the Tombstone at the Rumble... No one had ever kicked out of a Tombstone Piledriver before at that point. It was the most protected finisher in the company In fact, hardly anyone had kicked out of a finisher before period. Kicking out of finishers (especially doing so multiple times) is something that really only began happening in the Attitude Era.
I'm aware that Bret is his own biggest mark, but he did have a point here.
233259 I think bret is the only guy to kick out of the tombstone (legit)
MGladwell he will never show in wcw with the belt, and dropping in to the trash can
When did he do this!!??
Here’s the thing: Brett took himself to seriously. But also he was refusing to play ball with the dudes from the Kliq cause of them trying to run everything. So I can see it both sides
I can understand your prespective but I would imagine if that's what Vince (the man paying the money) wanted, that's what would happen.
Its like someone never told Bret that wrestling is staged.
He's also his own biggest fan.
+Kira Lawlet Yeah, he comes off like that, but Bret really was all about what really made the most sense. What Nash and Taker wanted would have made the face champion look weak.
+Jesot X Yeah and i'm sure Nash is over exaggerating the story, since Taker was asked about it and said he didn't remember that happening but Bret had already done this exact same thing at the Royal Rumble for Taker, he was about to win the title and Nash interrupts, so doing it again wouldn't make sense, it just makes it look like anyone can beat the champion.
+Josh S but bret is not the Booker anyway
+Kira Lawlet the thing that stood in my mind from watching it on tv was a promo HBK was doing with bret in the ring and hbk said "you think all this is yours" the way he said it you can tell HBK wanted to say you think all this is REAL. That sums up bret.
I'm sure he writes himself fan letters
I don't really take anything Nash says serious or truthful. But I never needed his words to tell me that Undertaker is great. He was one of the best and his character was perfect plus Paul Bearer was hilarious. I loved those guys back in the day. That era was the best. 1984-1994 ten year run was perfect.
It’s hard for me to believe Nash. He somehow always comes up with the greatest ideas in his stories. Great storyteller though lol I still love him
1:14 Even if he's just quoting Undertaker, it's so ironic hearing, of all people, Kevin Nash say these words. His egomania actually helped destroy companies.
Then again, this is Kevin Nash, so it has to be taken with a grain of salt.
Nash knocks Bret Hart here, but praises his butt buddy Shawn Michaels who sandbagged him at WM 11.
He praises and criticizes both. He does criticize Shawn for sabotaging the Wrestlemania match, but says his two best matches were with them (Survivor Series 1995 and In Your House: Good Friends, Better Enemies).
+Kannebas no doubt, in between
MGladwell Homework deez!
Actually Nash doesn't, he blasts HBK for the sandbag incident but then says that he had two great matches with HBK at IYH Good Friends, Better Enemies and Survivor Series 1995.
Nash says in this interview that Shawn took the worst powerbomb in the history of pro wrestling in that match and that he did it solely out of self interest. But he said that they’re independent contractors and that it’s a business.
When I worked at hertz rent a car in Detroit I had the job of bring vip or " gold members " their cars to the airport. I was always very busy on wwe days.i wasn't a big fan of wrestling so I was never star struck. I used to love picking up Mark. He was a cool dude always. He was always out of character so he would talk to you. Such a nice guy.
Nash just admitted he wanted to look like he beat Bret just as taker had. From Bret’s perspective he’s jobbing to 2 guys in a row just to put over their match (and they don’t need it lol). If it was leading to a big match with Bret that’s one thing... but who would do this to their world champ? I assume that’s why Vince ultimately killed it. What champ would happily do this? Would hogan? Lol. Flair? Michaels? Austin? Taker wouldn’t !
Exactly!!!!!
I've heard many people say both kind and unkind things about Bret, but never have I ever heard anyone say "Man, that Undertaker Diesel match would have been so much better if Bret had just taken Diesel's jackknife!!"
tbh nash at the time thaught him micheals was the it thing nash rode shauns coat tails while in wwe only thing he had going was his size and we all knows vince like his boys big big cyd giant gonzalas kevin nash razor ramoan even kane without the gimmic it woule be issack yankem ddr or fake diesel still and nash had 1 offensive move power bomb even hogan all he had was poses and leg drop of doom gimmics
The more I hear about the Undertaker the more I am beginning to think he might be the real GOAT.
Because he is
It’s not even debatable at this point
It’s extremely rare for both the fans and the coworkers to have such a high level of respect for somebody. Having a career where he stayed relevant the entire time, good in-ring psychology, good storylines, good matches, evolving his character, and never taking a full year off from 1987 to 2020. Definitely the wrestling GOAT.
Probably smells like one too
CarloisBuriedAlive I love the guy but he was never the in ring worker that Bret or Shawn was. Take a look at his WM7 to WM15 matches. They’re not good. Bret and Shawn are higher on the goat list than Taker. I think Austin is the overall goat despite not being the in-ring worker that Bret and Shawn were. Austin saved the WWF and destroyed WCW.
I really wish Undertaker would still work with the WWE. Not as a wrestler, but someone who has control behind the scenes. But I understand that he wants to retire and he sure as Hell deserves it! He made my childhood amazing!
says the guy who went on to book himself over who and whenever he wanted in wcw
Jim Cornette has told the same story, same details, and he's been pissed at Nash since the Kliq formed and the curtain call happened.
He clearly learned it from Bret and other divas lol
@@theder16 I think a part of it was that if you ever watched how he was doing the jackknife there were occasions that it was not done so cleanly... and I think it was also a case of egos and we all know the kliq had already been an issue at that time, and Bret had to look out for himself when you realize Hogan/Warrior could just return and squash you at anytime and remember the Nash Hogan bookings, they destroyed WCW with their selfish booking...
Good on taker. I could listen to Kevin Nash shoot all day. Speaks so well, intelligent and a sense of humour. No wonder he ran WCW. "It's all a WORK, you MARK!"
I always agreed with bret in this instance. To be the man you got to beat the man, and there is no way that Michael's can claim to be "the man" if bret essentially lost to the undertaker, lost to diesel, and then Michaels needs 60 mins plus extra time to beat Bret. Bret ends up looking like a chump.
Sure he has to out Michaels over, but it means nothing in he puts everyone else over along the way
Diesel didn’t want to beat Bret. He just wanted Bret to take the power-bomb; implying that had it not been for the Undertaker, he would have been able to get out of the cage, as Bret laid there motionless. This would have added a lot more more drama to there WrestleMaina match.
Bret’s fear was that the “marks” would think he lost the match if he took the finish.
@@MrAmazinj Yeah, but i agree with Bret. The implication that he lost, and cleanly, to a heel would make him a lesser Champion.
Bret was wrong here, he was wrong when he refused to lose to Shawn forcing Vince’s hand in what’s now “the Montreal screw job” he was an egotistical fuck, and thought he was the only one who mattered. I don’t buy the excuse that it’s a perception thing for the fans blah blah blah, if up to him he would be undefeated.
NO, your not special, be a team player and cut your shit. look at his WCW stint. It was trash compared to his run in the WWF. Probably because bischoff wasn’t gonna take his shit, Vince I think had fucked up giving Bret some creative control. Or he had a say in win/lose decisions. Those decisions need to be in one man’s hands and that’s VINCE
Bet wasnt gonna lose.....just take the powerbomb....Diesel gets dragged below and bret climbs out and wins.
@@RossMcCarthy1990 No it wouldnt. Champions lose to heels. Its not some new thing. especially not to a 7 ft main eventer in a cage. Its more believable to believe Diesel COULD HAVE won. Bet was in it for himself. Instead of doing whats best for business. Thats why Undertaker snapped.
Kevin nash never drew ever. WWF or WCW without help. Scott hall drew because at least he could wrestle buddy
True
You are just a hater and ignorant
Without Kevin Nash and Scott Hall = no nwo
Because of the nwo
WCW has beaten the WWF in the ratings for 83 weeks
nash with nwo = drew
nash with nwo wolfpac = drew
@@danishparvez8168 No, not true
You are just a hater who doesn't tell the truth
lol
Go watch Mike graham interviews and what he said about Kevin Nash in WCW
lol you are just a hater
Selfish is one way of looking at it, but Nash was in the Kliq and since they had Vince's ear I can understand Bret looking out for himself here. Nash sure as Hell wasn't going to do it.
Makes sense to me.
best there is will be and ever was............ at a predtermined event..... its a fucking WORK, Brett.... jees..
This is where Nash's wrestling IQ went out the window. He could not see the big picture in the long run. Which is what Brett was trying to explain to him. This isn't about arrogance. And I highly doubt that the undertaker yelled at him.
Thing is... Bret viewed his match with Shawn like Hogan vs Warrior. Two top babyfaces trying to simply showcase who was the best. The build was simple, it's like two sports team winning their conference and facing off in the final to take home the championship.
He didn't want to go into the match staggering and people doubting if he belonged there... While Shawn came fresh off of winning the Royal Rumble in impressive fashion. Bret having a good showing before Wrestlemania would have created a nice build of two top workers going after the belt.
But I also understand Diesel/Taker's point of view. Those guys are also main event guys and they weren't in the final match that year. So they have to create a scenario of why they aren't. Funny thing is, 2 years after, they did the same thing to build Shawn vs Austin by having Kane screw Taker at Royal Rumble 98. But that angle works better when the champ is a heel, not a babyface, that Bret was. The cage match finish already made Bret win via opportunity, and not being better than his opponent. Taking the powerbomb all but made fans believe he shouldn't have won and go to Wrestlemania in the first place.
You’re overthinking it. Bret Hart was already leaving for a hiatus after Mania so it didn’t matter that Bret look strong. Hell Bret won the title from Diesel on a fluke inside cradle
Brett in many interviews said his last match he refused to loose in Montreal and dead set on this. To pass the torch or go out on your shield for the next generation to continue the legacy is what should of happened. Add a paranoid Vince not wanting Brett to take the belt on WCW made a really dumb decision. That is the problem of having creative, staff, and owners all trying to make decisions this is why we have creative and talent separate and it may not be perfect but we do not have all this drama anymore.
As good as that proposed finish would have made Taker vs Diesel. It wouldve hurt Brett would would have devalued Shawn's win at Mania. End of the day that Ironman match was epic and Taker vs Disel was not.
I’ve seen Taker vs Diesel, it was an okay match. By itself it’s alright but yeah, next to Shawn and Bret’s iron man match, it’s not a special match whatsoever.
one of many storys,taker telling vince mcmahon to go down to bret locker room after the screwjob,taker tellin shawn to get stonecold over at WM,taker is just straight up old school and doin the right thing while gaining respect from everyone !
I can understand why they would be frustrated but you have to put yourself in Bret's shoes. Despite what Nash wants to think the Main Event of Wrestlemania was Bret vs. Shawn. That was the match that they hyped for months and put on all the billboards. So ultimately you want your main event to look as good as possible. Bret as champ got a no decision at the December PPV, looked terrible against Taker at the January PPV, and was going to look bad against Nash at the February PPV then he was going to drop the strap at Mania. So he looks like shit for 4 months as champ as a BABYFACE. Who else at that time would agree to that? Either way it was going to look like Bret got help beating Nash but Bret wanted to atleast make himself look competent going into the Mania Main event. I don't think that is too much to ask.
Give and take is something Brett did not do to well. Getting power bombed through a floor and getting back up would show how he was the GOAT. Brett always wanted the Wins, Michaels was drugged up to the clouds and the people in the middle were cannon fodder. Give and take......
I agree
This is one of my favourite Nash shoots, the other is the story about him, Taker and the strip club
Nash never drew a dime in WWF
1995 was such a shitty year for wwf.
Neither did Taker or Bret. That’s why they had to get Austin and Rock to save WWF.
That’s surprising just cause Taker always had the utmost respect for Bret
protecting your character is such a lost art. I wouldn't mind if current WWE guys started caring about the matches a little more than the shitty stories that don't have any consequences or continuity.
+Kevokevo Nash said the exact same thing in his KC YouShoot.
That was the problem everyone wanted to be champ and trying to get them to sort it out blew up. Now Vince calls all the shots of who how and why is handled. Why we have writers and we have actors and when a actor writes a movie 90% of the time it is crap.
Bret was the elder in the locker room until he left but it makes sense. You got 3 top guys arguing about a finish to a match, it should be equal going in, and Bret was losing at 12 to Shawn, who'd be a bigger pain in the ass for top guys or those looking to break through upper mid card.
I can only Imagine the facial expressions of the people in that room just sit there watch taker snap at Bret.
The face of: "God don't let him turn the barrel toward me.".
Now Taker said in an interview he never had such moments with Bret
He said he got along with Brett but he didn't say there wasn't a moment when he didn't snap at him. People who get along argue sometimes.
When he said Taker jolting up out of his chair, I immediately pictured his trademark sit up in the ring
Nope. He hopped out that cheer fast as hell probably angry
Bret hart was a mark for himself
So is Nash
This is why Bret screwed Bret....
i see what you did there lol. But vince still shouldnt of did what he did, bret told vince he had no problem dropping the belt just not in that match in canada
did undertaker ever get a clean victory over bret hart?
I don't think so, but Bret didn't beat Taker clean either.
Araa Hero yeah your right. The Undertaker must have one of the records for being screwed out of the world championship the most even though hes like a 8 time world champion could of had alot more.
@@dannie2712 Not true. He was offered other options to drop the belt before Montreal and said no..
Everyone has the utmost respect for taker
I like what Nash called Undertaker, he said he was "always the shop steward."
Vince's aide de camp
Surprised Vince didn't shit a brick, since it's a Unionized position. =P
The funny thing about Nash speaking on this is he wasn't there! Undertaker himself speaks on it and acknowledged Brett knocked Vince out and that is when Undertaker became the locker room leader, Undertaker was pissed off as well as all the wrestlers that night not Sean Michael's. Undertaker from that point on became mediator between the office and the wrestlers, Undertaker offered to wrestle Brett and Brett would drop to him and he'd drop to HBK the next event but Vince wanted to screw Brett because he was going to WCW. Fact is Vince McMahon fucked over the Hart family at every turn and it cost them Owen and a lot of heartache and pain
You haven't a clue, you are referencing the Screwjob, 21 months AFTER this! Then there's the unsubstantiated timeline of locker room leader, and all the misspellings. Utter tripe.
That's actually some bs here. Taker saying it is not always about you when Bret basically was a supporting character in the feud between Taker and Nash although he's the champion is egotistical af. It was all about Taker vs Nash two PPV Main Events for Bret in a row.
Yup. Just cos he snapped, doesn't make him right.
From all these shoot interviews I've listened to, what Bret did is a common game most of the top guys were playing. Hart, Hogan, HBK, Piper, Warrior, the list goes on and on. The politics seemed necessary because if you didn't play the game, the game played you.
Classic case of everything had to go Bretts way or he threw a fit. He still doesn’t understand that the screw job happened because of this very reason.
Who is Brett??
The best there never was!
Undertaker is the one n only. Noone will ever take his crown
When the Montreal screw job first happened, I felt like Bret was the victim, but my opinion has really evolved over the years. It sounds like Vince really tried to appease Bret but it was never enough
With everything I have heard about the screw job, I feel Jim Cornette said it best when he said, "It was the biggest clusterf*** in the history of clusterf***s." In my opinion, everybody takes some blame here.
Firstly, Vince should have told Bret the second he realized he couldn't pay him, "before you talk to WCW, we need to take the belt off you." If he was that concerned about Bischoff revealing on Nitro that they had signed the WWF Champion, they should have taken the belt off Bret before they allowed him to negotiate.
Secondly, when Bret told Shawn, "Hey, I just found out we'll be working together at Survivor Series. I know we've had some differences this year but I'm happy to work with you and drop the belt to you" and Shawn responded "Thanks but just so you know, I wouldn't do the same." That was way out of line and I don't blame Bret for not wanting to do business with Shawn after that.
Third, as the son of a wrestling promoter, did Bret honestly think it would help the company to just HAND the belt over the next night? That would have been twice in the span of one year that the World Championship was handed over on Raw. First with Shawn losing his smile. And not agreeing to drop the belt before the show if he didn't want to lose in Canada? Pure bs to me.
And if Shawn was that much of an issue with Bret, they should have put Taker in there as a transitional champ for him to drop the belt to Shawn at the '98 Rumble.
If that screw job didn’t happen we would never have the attitude era so who’s the real winner
Vince had no choice but to screw Bret over, the fact is Bret was being a selfish baby & refused to drop the belt...
He didn’t wanna do the job on his way out the door so Vince had no other option but to take it from him by any means necessary.
Bret didn’t wanna do business so he got screwed, it’s really that simple.
Bret's always Going to be My Personal Favorite! But When Taker Speaks it Pays to Listen! 100% :)
Even as a Bret fan, and as a Canadian, I can say Bret deserved what he got.The screwjob was 100% his own damn fault. Thought he was hot shit and didn't wanna put anyone over. Always tried to weasel his way out of it. Tell me something; if Bret was such hot shit, why were his days as WWF Champion the days that took McMahon to near bankruptcy for his company?
Meanwhile, we have people like John Cena and Triple H, who fans say "bury everyone", regardless of the fact that they cleanly put over talent like Kevin Steen, Shelton Benjamin, Daniel Bryan, CM Punk just to name a few. Nah, Bret was everything that was wrong with the business at the time. He was a GREAT wrestler, but he had ZERO charisma.
People talked about Hulk Hogan politicking all the time. Hogan put over Goldberg, Billy Kidman, Sting, The Rock, Warrior, Randy Savage, DDP, Brock Lesnar, Kurt Angle, Edge etc. Ironically, the only ones he refused to put over were Jeff Jarret and Bret Hart, and when it comes to them (especially Jarret), I completely understand why. As far as politics goes, Bret's ego got the most of him and ended up one of the worst of all time for backstage politics, and he was never really a draw.
ALL THE OPPORTUNITIES BRET HART GOT, SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO OWEN INSTEAD. OWEN HART HAD EVERYTHING. He was the complete package.
+RaVeN19Dizzle Yeah, funny how Bret hates Hogan for not "passing the torch" to him, yet did the same thing to HBK. The latter may have been a prick, but if Scumbag Hart was "truly" above the political shit that he brags to be, then he'd have done what McMahon wanted him to do. He is an utter hypocrite, & extremely arrogant.
+RaVeN19Dizzle He told Shawn in the locker room in the middle of the year that he wanted to put all their quarreling aside and that he'd be happy to put him over if/when the time came and Shawn's response, in-front of several other wrestlers, was "I appreciate that but I'm not willing to do the same for you" After that Bret was no longer willing to do the job for Michaels. Bret was happy to put over Austin, Shamrock, Mankind or Taker though and there was plenty of time to make that happen but Vince was insistent on doing the big WM rematch. Vince and Shawn were just as stubborn if not a whole lot more so than Bret as far as that whole saga goes.
+HankJennings "Yeah, funny how Bret hates Hogan for not "passing the torch" to him, yet did the same thing to HBK. "
-Beacause WM12 never happened right? Moron.
+Jim Dandy No, MORON. Do you even know what the phrase "passing the torch" means? How did he "pass the torch" to HBK at WM 12 if he was still going to be with the company until roughly a year & a half later.
That whinger Bret pissed & moans about Hogan not doing it on his way out, but he did the same fucking thing at Survivor Series. I never said he didn't put HBK over at Mania. He refused to "pass the torch" on his way out, which resulted in the screwjob, which he was too stupid to not see coming.
Bret likes to preach about how he is above the ego & political bullshit. If that is the case then he should have done what McMahon wanted. He would have come out the bigger man doing the job at Survivor Series. Instead, he is just a hypocrite, & a whinger. It doesn't matter if HBK was an egotistical prick. If the whinger Hart was above this shit, he'd have done it.
Turns out he is no better than Hogan. And the fact that he still whinges about him shows what kind of bitter, whiney hypocrite he is. Even more despicable is how he used Piper's death to attack Hogan yet again. Hart is a scumbag.
HankJennings
So Bret should've just retired after WM12? The plan was to do further business once Bret returned from his planned hiatus in 1996. I'm not sure if/when Shawn was going to "return the favor" but the plan was to continue the feud at a later point.
I conceded that Bret was stubborn but Montreal could still have been avoided. Things became to personal between Bret and Shawn in 1997 so they should've just been kept apart but Vince was insistent on doing the big re-match even after several backstage incidents including the fight they had when Bret pulled Shawn's hair out.
Bret just doing a clean job would've and ended up being a lousy conclusion to Bret's whole heel run throughout 1997 and the feud with Michaels in general.
Bret could've dropped the title on RAW to Shamrock, who was red hot at the time, before Survivor Series and then had the match with Michaels at Survivor Series end in a DQ with The Harts and DX interfering. Bret gets kicked out of the Hart Foundation the next night on RAW and leaves for WCW while Michaels takes the belt from Shamrock the next month at DX: IYH. That scenario would've worked just fine.
Bret Hart is the goat. Why would you want to look weak going into WrestleMania as the champion. I’m with Bret Hart on this one
Yeah, because we all know Nash was a sweetheart to work with ... Nash destroyed wrestling with his matchmaker days
lol
nash >> cm punk
Ironically, in an interview with Chris Jericho Edge said something along the lines of knowing he made it when backstage before one of their matches Taker said he was on the same level as Hart (and one other wrestler, I think either Austin or Shawn - I don´t remember which one now).
In terms of popularity or star power? Probably. In terms of how good a wrestler he was, specifically according to the Undertaker? He may well have been.
+MGladwell I Like In Warzone Instead Putting Shawn Michaels At The Bottom They Put Shawn's Nickname HBK Instead
Nash and Taker were top notch good guys.
I thought the IWC scurried to ban videos like this? As we say in the IWC. Long live Bret and Benoit, he didn't mean it his dad paid a doctor to say he say he was 80 and couldn't find his way to the arena.!!!
I met the undertaker in Austin. He is an awesome dude.
He lives near there
You have to be the shits if Taker has to straighten you out, and you've been in the business for decade. Get over yourself!
I love Nash's stories but he seriously sounds like he's fucking lying 99% of the time.
I remember working at the movie theatre as a theatre walker watching the punisher for a couple minutes lol I'm like why does dude look familiar oh shit that's Kevin's nash diesel 🤣🤣😆😆
Until the Undertaker verifies it, I'd take it with a grain of salt. Hart and Undertaker seemed to have genuine respect for one another so it is hard to see The Undertaker yelling at Bret Hart in front of everyone. Is it possible it happened. Yeah, but Nash's word is not enough for me when he clearly had Real hate for Bret Hart.
If you listen to Bret talk it's always about him, always putting himself over. Go check out his shoots
I hear what you're saying dude.. but I honestly think Brett's little hiss fits may have struck Takers nerve regardless of the respect factor. As for Nash saying Taker said "Motherfucker" is 50 50. Hilarious if he did tho. Lol
@@ianmeadows956 his catchphrase speak for it self
When the undertaker jolts up nah bro he rises up ,rest in peace
In brets defence, he was upset they were making him look weak leading up to mania and he felt he should be booked strong to make his match with hbk mean more. Instead he says he feels like he was just holding the belt and giving it away to shawn at mania and he was being booked like a weak champ. Thats why he didnt want to take his finish cuz it would make him look weaker instead of being dominant and strong for when he fought hbk the following month.
Just Brett being Brett
Hey guess what? Bret was the champ and he worked with EVERYBODY. He worked with Hakushi ffs trying to help the wwf look better, by trying his best to give a rub to undercarders...nobody else would do that..certainly not the boy toy, who only worked with his buddies at the time. Bret helps Austin, says I see a lot in that guy, let me work with him. Bret helps the Rock, teaches him things...know what HBK did? Scoffed at the Rock. To this day the Rock doesnt much care for HBK. Without Bret, the company doesnt get to where it was. Taker loves Bret. Bret gave him his best matches. Like he did with most everybody. Also, why should Bret be made to look weaker going into THE MAIN EVENT OF WM12 against HBK? Would HBK agree to look weak before a big match like that? Nope. So why should Bret? Just for some undercard match in diesel and taker...when diesel was leaving for wcw anyway? Yeah ok.
+Zeke1379 Very nicely put!
+Zeke1379 The truth right there.
I'm not sure I'd call the second-biggest draw on the card a mere 'undercard match', especially since it featured two of WWE's biggest names at the time (essentially the biggest except for the Hitman and HBK), but I do see where you're coming from. I personally don't see why they couldn't just have Nash powerbomb Hart after a grueling match, have him resort to a desperation one-arm-draped-across-the-torso pin, and have Champion Bret kick out. He's the Champion for a reason, he can kick out of a finish from an exhausted opponent who can't even get a proper pin because he's so tired. Even if that finish is a Jackknife Powerbomb, because Nash basically lets gravity do the real work, anyways. There's no extra driving force.
SCSA was already hot by the time he faced Bret. Steve was coming off of the Jake the snake feud where 3:16 was born. The significance of the SCSA, Bret feud was the turn. The fans turned on Bret and turned Steve face.
+Zeke1379 But The Rock Wouldn't Mind Having A Wrestlemania 33 Showdown Between Him And Undertaker
Brett was always a player nash was on so many Drugs back then is why he didn't feel comfortable him doing it without hurting him is why
Why would Bret lose 2x in a row before his main event fight at Wrestlemania 12? I think Bret was right and Nash and Taker need to understand that they are not the main event of the main show of that year. Taker is wrong on this one. Also I dont like how Nash is using Taker's locker room reputation to verify his opinion.
I totally concur. They are trying to put themselves over at the expense of Bret, who is the current champion. Bret already put Kevin over after his small package roll up victory, and then letting Kevin Jackknife him into oblivion. That match made Diesel look like an absolute beast.
Because he's not losing. He's winning 2 matches via shenanigans to set up for losing the belt.
Things like this make it so I never felt bad about the "Montreal screw job".
time moves quickly..nowadays Bret looks like my clinically insane Irish grand mother
I agree with Kev! Taker is ultra cool!
I would be scared shitless Taker yelled at me like that.
Same with me with Taker and Stone Cold. Those Texan men don’t play and they’re one of the last ppl you want to piss off. The only two wrestlers I would be even more scared of pissing off more than Stone Cold and Undertaker are Brock Lesnar and Goldberg.
I want a kevin and mark shoot interview so badly
Even though I'm skeptical about this due to only hearing one side of it, I do accept that if it were true then Undertaker was right to say what he said even though there are two ways of looking at it. Bret also needed to look good going in to his main event match with HBK so I think if there had been a way to make both look good then that would have been the best way by making the match as eventful as possible. If you could somehow make both look like they had each other beat at different times in the match, that may have worked. However, you could argue that Undertaker had Bret beat at Royal Rumble and that Diesel needs to look as though he's a match for Taker. Bret has beaten Diesel before so I don't actually think Bret taking his finisher would have been that big of a deal. If I had been in Taker's position, I would have said something. Having said that, I may have even felt the same way as Bret did if I had been in his position because if he felt as though he was losing momentum or popularity and was about to lose his place at the top then he isn't going to want anything else to add to it. Personally, I don't think taking Nash's finisher would add to it but in his mind, he probably felt like it would. Maybe he was in a bad place at the time because of the whole Kliq thing, which Nash was part of and he knew he was facing HBK at Mania. Maybe the backstage politicking of the Kliq, if that is what they were doing, frustrated him to the point that he started doing the same in response to it. That doesn't make it right but it would be understandable. The point is he'd want to be red hot going in to Mania, particularly if he's dropping his title. All 4 of them, Bret, HBK, Diesel and Undertaker would have all wanted that so I guess there was some inevitable conflict that arose. Outside of this, I hear that Undertaker and Bret had a lot of respect for each other. Outside of this, I have never heard about things getting heated between the two of them. I think they had a good working relationship. If Bret was unreasonable then there would have been conflict between the two of them on more than one occasion. If this argument happened, maybe they were both in a bad mood that day. There could have been all sorts of personal shit going on. From what I know about Bret and Undertaker, I would say that both guys were very respectful of their co-workers, unless you crossed them. They both speak highly of one another and I still have my doubts about how much of this story is true.
-Agreed. I think too, that they may have just had a disagreement, and got into it for a while, but otherwise were cool with each other, and mutually respectful. I also get what you mean about Nash too, like maybe he embellished it a bit. Like you say, though, take it with a grain of salt.
Bruce Prichard also told this story on his podcast. Almost word for word.
@@noshow22 Was he there?
I don't care what Bret might have thought, he was beat in that match with or without the powerbomb.
i wholeheartedly agree with taker's stance and snapping at bret hart, bret is one of the best of all time but his ego back then was huge and not much has changed today, he is not on hogan's level with ego but he really was a mark for himself.
Nah, Taker was in the wrong here. He didn't speak up because Bret had a big ego. He spoke up because Taker had the big ego that his match against Nash was more important than Bret vs Shawn.
Taker has not confirmed this story as far as I'm aware.
It doesn't make a lot of sense, Nash wants the top guy in the company to take his finish and be beat. imagine asking Hogan, Austin or Rock to do that. Ridiculous.
Undertaker used to work for some shady people before he got into the business breaking arms and legs. Bret is lucky Taker didn't harm him.
Rolo555 well,he did work for a loan shark as his collector,before he got into pro wrestling.
Hahahah Bret would kick takers ass
to be honest, aside from maybe Shamrock, I'd pick Bret in a fight over anyone in the company at the time. Taker was all talk, even Pillman trashed him in his book.
@@JaskiratSGrewal 6^'10" 320
@@Zeke1379 ShAMROCK V tAKER IN 1999 GREAT MATCH
Nash complains about this but has no problem doing the finger poke of death lol. dude was champion for a calendar year. he was champ in wcw for like a day?
It's a fake belt who gives a shit
This is why I love Taker.
For some reason, I get the feeling that this is a lie.
Possibly, or exaggerated
@@frankonolfi1966 Yeah, I'd say that's right. It could even have been a misunderstanding.
Bret had a tendency to complain. He still does today
@@joetamburello6292 he had that rep.
@@joetamburello6292 He's a passionate man
Getting one star to put over another must have been tough.
Bret is like the ultimate mark for himself.
True
his catchphrase speak for it self
I don't like Nash!!! he doesn't care about wrestling, he only cares about the money he makes. Undertaker cares about this business and cares about doing whats right.
exactly bro!
People often say flippant shit. Don't need to take every situation seriously.
Nash has had this image because of his character as one of those guys in wrestling. But he is quite humble.
I gotta agree with Bret. The iron man match was legendary
For Bret Hart everything is either about Bret Hart or who wronged Bret Hart
He's so egotistical and narcissistic that he never faces the mirror so all his venom gotta go to guys who were his peers or those who passed him along time go..examples Hogan,Flair,Shawn,Hunter.
Bret made a good point about being made to look weak, but that visual of Taker dragging Diesel under the ring.
That's Bret's problem. He thinks he 's the best there is, blah blah, but his ego has disqualified him from the very argument. (and he was boring as hell on the mic, don't @ me)
So true Will!
I know a few wrestlers who had bad things say about Bret Hart but idgaf Bret is one of my favorites an plus he's been through an he's a very good wrestler
one of the things that led to Bret leaving. he's a mark.
It made sense for the angle to have Taker screw Diesel in revenge. Add more heat to the feud. I can see from Bret's perspective - having the World Champ look weak by having two lucky get out jail free cards. Especially as a face character. I dont think it took away from HBK's win in the end. But I can see his reservation.
But not really, because every match (usually), the end is really close. So basically, the stakes are higher. When Diesel and Hart fight, it's not one sided.
@@outis439-A It's all about the finish. Taker had Bret beat. And Diesel had Bret beat. So your champion going into Wrestlemania looked on borrowed time. The belt was still a big deal back then. Fortunately, it didn't hurt anyone.
so nash went to WCW and did the same thing to other wrestlers lmao
Bret was a workhorse, generational wrestler. He toiled in the lower to mid card, sacrificing his family life, and financial future to make it on top. No one in 1985 thought Bret would be world champion. So please forgive the "markman" for giving a s*** about his career...PS Nash's best friend is HBK lmao.
Bret Hart didn't want to lose, he thinks wrestling is real and believes he won the title legitimately, that's the definition of a MARK...
People who lie for a living give first hand accounts of events no one can prove and for fans who's confirmation bias is already set in stone... Talk about being played twice...
All these years later I’m still shocked Bret was able to wrestle in an arena considering the size of his ego. Unless you were a Canadian wrestler or a member of his family, Bret wasn’t going to agree to anything. He’s a great wrestler, but he was a complete a$$hole to deal with.
You gotta remember.
Bret was also dealing with political bullshit backstage mainly dealing with Hogan, then Shawn
He did had an ego no lie but yeah
Good for Taker!! Hes so right not everything is about Brett!! Get over yourself dude. Know your role and shut up!
Bret was a great mechanic but that's all he was.Bad interview skills, bad at doing business, very few memorable storylines or things to make you actually care that weren't a result of him acting like his own biggest fan. He was also disgustingly homophobic for a guy draped in pink hearts. Much as I enjoyed those matches I never really missed him like I do others.
Oh so him not liking gay people is homophobic right. Him not liking 2 guys doing it because he's straight is gay. Your a fucking idiot. Also Brets ego went wild and taker put him in his place.
@@BigBladeFan WTF? Yeah, by definition, homophobia is the irrational dislike or hate of gay people, idiot.
I used to like Bret Hart and thought the Montreal thing was terrible and that he had been screwed over. The more Bret Hart interviews I watch and the more I see him still whining to this day, the more I'm starting to believe stories like this. Kevin Nash seems to be writing some of his own history in these interviews but I'm finding this one very easy to believe.