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Not a lot of content to pump out so... I'm starting to see this in many UA-cam people my opinion is that they are starting to be burned out of the pressure of constantly having to make videos. This may be UA-cam fault because they have created a system where views is what matters.
@@mayajigua2087 You nailed it, I'm seeing it all over and its driving me crazy. They have to hit that 10min mark at least. Whenever I see 10min vids, I see a video that has 2 min worth of actual content.
I think it's important to stick to stocks that are immune to economic policies. AI stocks that have the potential to power and transform future technologies. It seems AI is the trajectory most companies are taking, including even established FAANG companies. Maybe there are other recommendations?
I bought into NVIDIA around September last year because my financial advisor recommended it to me. She said the company is selling shovels in a gold rush. It accounted for almost 80% of my market return this year.
@@JohnsMasterses That's a great analogy and I love the insight. Professionals could make a really big difference in investing, and I think everyone should have one. There are aspects of market trends that are difficult for the untrained eyes to see.
@@RobisonsWades I've shuffled through investment coaches; they can positively impact an individual's portfolio. But do your due diligence to find a coach with grit that withstood the 2008 crash. MARGARET MOLLI ALVEY was better and smarter than all the advisors I have ever worked with. I’ve never met anyone with as much conviction.
Just got a new Y LR RWD on lease for a great price ($319/mo) with the tax credit. Got the newish color quicksilver which makes it different than the base dark gray. The build quality is awesome. I was pleasantly surprised for a Fremont build. I really wanted the tax credit so we pulled the trigger. Would like the cooled seats, but didn't want to lose out on this great price.
As a European who lives in a country with a loooot of roundabouts, I wish Tesla kept the stalks or would at least offer the ability to buy stalks directly from them rather than having to rely on a third party.
You can get after market stocks now. There's a company that make em....can't fully remember the name, but it starts with "enhanced " they are the company responsible for the tesla sexy buttons .
I’d love to see a 500 mile range MY! I don’t have charging at my apartment complex so I go a few days without charging. He would really be targeting the population like myself who don’t expect a daily recharge! The peace of mind would be helpful which it looks like lots of other would agree on :)
I can recommend a company that Now You Know has been advertising a lot lately where you could ask the apt complex if you could have this company drop off the kit. You set it up with solar panels that sit on top and shade your car help (a little) save it from the elements. It has a built in battery and charges up to 4 cars at once. Level 2. The apt complex could make some money from it too. Charge residents a couple or three pennies and charge other that aren’t normally in that complex $.10-$.15 per kWh. Plus a $2 connection fee for those not living there.
Also, I have asked so many times about a 700-800 miles battery too. Lucid has a 500+ miles battery, but we know about that nightmare. Lol They look so nice though. I would love to drive a Lucid.
@@keeppushin6725 I have to agree and understand this, but charging up once at home is 1/3 the price and less than charging up anywhere else. My home charge (in WV, USA) is $0.11/kWh. The cheapest place within 75 miles is $0.38 and when I lived out in UT, USA, it got up to $0.49/kWh! I have heard of higher, but this is more than enough. That 500+ miles with the right batteries and right efficiency would be absolutely amazing. Having 100kWh of batteries (normal for today) and having 1000 miles of charge range, sounds impossible now, but would be amazing.
Blinkers on buttons is stupid no matter what the steering is, same goes for the physical gear selector missing and other stuff. I wish the new model y had traditional blinkers, gear selector and a damn head up display for speed and navigation
Great Video! I want to but this car! But I also think I will wait around 3-6 months after release to see prices come back down and not getting the first batch 😅
@@jeaninebutler8114 Yeah. After 10 years it still rates at 85% (which is still over 300 miles). And all EPA estimates (for ICE and EV) are made on flat ground in ideal conditions and speed limits. In other words - you're not really presenting much of an argument.
@@user-xd1ze4jf6e @user-xd1ze4jf6e Lucky you! Link to your sources? My 4-year-old Model Y no longer charges up to 300...I have taken it across country twice now and noticed a big difference in the range of the battery on the second trip. In fact that second trip was the only time I have ever come close to actually running out of a charge (in a remote part of the Highway) as dusk approached. And I'm sure we have all heard the horror stories about when can happen when running our batteries down to 0. Don't get me wrong - I LOVE my Model Y, but would prefer more range (500 would be ideal but I would take 400 or anything more...) My last car I drove before this one, I had kept for 17 years...I like to hang on to cars once I get them). But I cannot see myself driving my Model Y for 17 years if the battery keeps degrading every year... The main reason I plan to upgrade to a Juniper will be for increased range...
I would really love to see induction charging on Juniper (like the proposed Cybercab). It would be convenient to auto charge every time it is parked at home at off peak rates without having to plug it in each time. If bidirectional it would also be great for PowerShare.I suspect this is unlikely but it is nice to dream about it. I think steer by wire is unlikely because of regulations in different countries. Not a great idea to add a feature into the world’s most popular car that will make it unavailable in many countries due to regulations!
Great recap! 100% agree on all aspects covered, including 800v/48v questions. And exactly my dilemma holding on to my current Performance Model Y - for how long?
@@BillB33525 then why did he do the cybertruck with 800v? Why did he recently upgrade V4 Superchargers to do 500kW? It cannot be for the CT only since we have 0 of them in Europe but still have plenty of V4 SC. Besides if the Juniper wont have 800v it will look behind compared to Chinese and Korean EVs
Would love to see 48V architecture and faster charging. Like my stalks, but would like to see steer by wire. Don’t care one way or the other about the ambient lighting and rear seat touch screen.
I’d like to think Tesla will include pretty much all of those system you thought would be left out. The reason for this is that the MY is the cybercab “large” vehicle. If more than 2 people are travelling they need the MY. As such the drive-by-wire, bumper cameras, larger battery, wireless charging etc. Just because the M3 doesn’t have the improvements isn’t necessarily a guide for it not being included on the MY.
@ totally! I hope they do bring any new advances onto the M3 as soon as they refine the MY versions. It makes sense for manufacturing efficiency if nothing more. I’d love to see V2X added to current models as well as new versions. I suspect Tesla won’t do this as it will potentially impact their energy business and powerwall3 market. I know the new model will negatively impact the current value of my 2024 MY but I just can’t wait to see the reveal!! 😃
I ordered a 2024 from existing inventory. When I went to acknowledge the agreement it said 2025. So is it a 2025 version of the 2024 or the actual Juniper?
My guess is a split pack so 400v or 800v depending on charger. I bet same pack goes in the Model 3 as they didnt change the pack on the Model 3 last year.
Well Model Y vehicles have always been a great vehicle. I have the 2023 Model Y LR AWD vehicle and also has HW4 and newer cameras - I also got the vehicle for the tax credit. I really like the Model Y and all its features. My Model Y also has the Stalks for gear selections and turn signals, which I prefer. I also like the Hatchback style for more storage space than the Model 3 sedan style. I will keep my current Model Y for a long time, have no need to upgrade. Good luck if you get the Newer Model Y, you should also enjoy it.
👋Me too! I like hearing about the changes but I hope my 2023 MY LR AWD, lasts at least 10 years. I like having the stalks but once in a while (has gotten better recently but…) they don’t engage, like turn signal or going into drive. Sometimes I have to press twice and my crazy driving doesn’t always allow for that delay with the turn signals.
Not the first steer by wire car and commercial aircraft have been for 30 years. I think the general tipping point for range is 400 miles. Problem is people are having trouble getting used to range variance on EVs for temperature and driving style and altitude etc. ICE it’s like 10% but on an EV it can be as much as 30-40% reduction for one of those reasons. People will be comfortable with 400 miles because it means guaranteed all weather all driving styles 350 miles of range.
Except for the failed Q50 Infiniti, Cyber is the only production vehicle today to be totally drive by wire. Everything else was one-offs and race cars aka hardly important. Range is a non issue, most people don't drive 40 miles a day. EVs totally dominate over ICE cars in Norway and I believe it's cold there. ICE car sales are declining year over year and EVs are climbing NOT FOR NO REASON. Add in EVs today are the worst they will ever be - next year they will be better, just one battery break away from solid state or super-cap/solid state and there will be 1000 miles range and a charging time of a couple minutes. Gas cars are gone by 2035 anyway - 10 years from now but the public will kill them off way sooner. 🎱
@there are two possibly three scenarios that lead me to the conclusion that 500 mile range would be desirable. A) The day trip. One can realistically drive 3 hours to visit someone or some place, spend 3 hours there, then drive home. It may not be possible or convenient to change at the location. 3 hours driving on a motor way doing 70mpg equates to 210 miles, with the return trip that’s 420 miles, you’d want a contingency allowance, so that’s where the 500 miles comes from. It’s a long day as it is, so you don’t want to spend ~40 mis to an hour on the way home to charge up enough to get home. B) The overnighter. Like A) but you stay somewhere over night and drive back the following day, but it may not be convenient to charge up at the location overnight. C) the multi day Road trip. I can drive 3 hours at a time, maybe even a bit more, but I then want a 5 min break, just to stretch legs / go loo etc. then I’ll drive for another 3 hours or so, or a tad more. So again, it’s a long day, you just want to get to your destination as soon as possible. Two 3 or 3.5 hour stints puts me in the 500 mile range. I don’t want to be forced into stopping mid journey for an hour to fully recharge. Most of my driving over the past 10 years has been akin to B) above, so, yes, I do this sort of thing a fair bit unfortunately. And when I arrive at my location, I have been busy and do not have time to waste waiting for a car to charge & I can’t charge at the location I’m visiting. Besides, my ICE vehicle can do 580 miles on a tank, I’ve been accustomed to, and appreciate that on my trips, I can fill up the night before I’m going, and I know I can comfortably get there & back without having to worry about filling up. If/When EV’s can go from 0% to 100% charge in 5 mins, and EV chargers are on every street corner, then yes, I’d agree a 500 mile range is unnecessary, but until then, a 500 mile range is desirable for those who don’t just use their vehicle for a daily 30 mile commute, or to nip down to the shops once a week.
@@mattmcfly2165 i live in Canada. We often travel many miles in one day. A 500 mile range would do wonders for us as it would compensate for the energy loss in cold weather yet still allow for a full day of travelling.
500 mile range is a waste of money. I only charge my Model 3 to 80% on roadtrips it's enough because there are so many Superchargers. We do splash and dashes every couple of hours, i.e. we do a 10 minute stop to go to the bathroom and splash and that's enough time for the car to add 75-100 miles of dash.
My M3LR is my third Tesla and the MX100D was my favorite. I did a trip around the USA for just over 8,100 miles pulling a 2,800lbs (dry weight)/almost 3,500 lbs camper. Thank god for camp spots around the US in 2021 or I would have never made it. I did have to leave my camper a few times and come back for it. That 500 miles would definitely had made it better.
I'm hoping / expecting a lot of the Model Y wish-list items to come to S/X first instead. I think it would make more sense to put bi-directional charging, 500kw charging, etc. on the higher end vehicles first and then trickle that tech down to the next iterations of the 3/Y in ~3+ years.
Tesla sales in Australia are at an all time low due to the large range of Chinese models now available at much lower prices. I hope Tesla can come up with the right product and pricing.
Larger battery means higher cost and these consumers like the price more manageable, especially with how income has become stagnant while inflation is through the roof. I live in Wyoming so a higher range would be amazing, but i can't afford a $60k+ vehicle
Now I am hearing about Opal, the follow on to Juniper. That seems to me to be a good target for the good battery and charging changes that we all want to see in the Y model in January. Do you have any guidance on the Opal version?
800V architecture makes little sense at this point in time and price, partially due to the requirement of a series-parallel switch for charging. In a more expensive car like Cybertruck, yes, but not on the Model Y. The curve aspect is more important than the peak charging speed, so I hope for a flatter one. More sense is a 10+% increase in battery capacity, made possible by the new 2170 and 4680 cells, especially on the performance version.
Turn signal stalks. When humans are operating vehicles it’s good to have controls that the human body can interface with. In modern jets, there could be a left right slide switch for engine throttles but it makes less sense than big lever that make the plane go forward when the levers are moved forward. Good point about quick steering and buttons in this video. 48v and variable steering. And all those performance versions are people that like to drive ! 500 mile range for those in countries with slow supercharger installation. Being able to drive between super chargers is not enough. For instance before the installation in Kayenta AZ, it was very difficult to go sight seeing in the painted desert. (The Navajos get a lot of money from wells) To drive around sightseeing they have to be closer together. They failed on the cyber truck, put it on the Yp. More power, does the most popular Tesla have to have the slowest performance in the performance version? Front camera. I use summon quite a bit when forced to park nose in, the nose camera might make this a little easier.
I'm waiting for the Model Y Juniper with the hopes that it will have all the upgrades from the new Model 3 along with the front/rear light bars, and a fix for the noisy rear hatch. Anything else like a larger battery, will probably make the price jump out of my price range.
It is going to be interesting to see how the Juniper MY is going to stack up in China to the Xpeng G6 and the Xiaomi YU7 both of which use 800-volt architecture and undercut the current MY in price!
500kw charging might be good for Cyber Truck but is overkill for model y. How long is it going to be above 250? 30sec. 45sec. Maybe? No thanks. Won’t be applicably faster either.
One major feature I'm looking for in Juniper is AI4 hardware. That change should make FSD V13 and later available immediately but it may delay the hinted upgrade of HW3 cars to AI4 in order to protect the sales of Juniper. I think many of the HW3 car owners on the road will wait for that upgrade while many will decide to trade in their HW3 cars for the Juniper as long as it has AI4 which I can't see Tesla leaving out. Also given that the Model Y is such a great road tripper especially for families, I think (or at least am hoping) that Tesla will include the 800V architecture in Juniper. Also, if they arre looking for many Model Y Juniper owners to offer their cars to Tesla's early RoboTaxi network then not only faster charging on V4 EVSEs as well as steer-by-wire commonality with the CyberCab later in 2 regions (SF Bay Area and Austin Metro) in 2025 makes for good future planning with the Juniper refresh. Changing the build lines over to a new vehicle can cost a lot and Tesla may not want to do that once for Juniper without those 2 features and then again to catch it up to the CC when it scales up. Probably just my wishful thinking but why not? Cheers and thanks Ryan for the analysis.
Don’t care about the shifter but the lack of a consistently located indicator, such as a stalk, stinks. On the wheel, it moves. I shouldn’t have to think about where it is. It is an unnecessary distraction.
@@csguak depends. EPA ratings are based on ideal conditions. Match those conditions and you'll get 500 miles. Just like my car's advertised 24mpg - but I average 18.. lol
I rarely drive my MYP anymore. I got a silverado ev with 450 miles that actually delivers close to that range at highway speeds. So much more convenient on road trips. I did an 1800 mile round trip and only had to stop 4 times to charge. (one night charging at my hotel)
You and many people talk about the design, could be the avarage buyer looks at design but tesla buyers look at the tech. I wanna know the the new voltage system from the cybertruck will be in the model y.
Ryan! I'd say BYD, and other Chinese vehicles literally outnumber Tesla in terms of the range of miles so I hope they compete them already and not few years because consumers need longer-range electric vehicles.
I’ll probably pass on Juniper, with losing the tax credit and not getting the 800 V architecture and power share. I’ll wait, especially with the trend and dentistry for lower pricing on EV’s, including lower cost battery packs.
No point in 800V charging in a car, the battery isn't big enough to benefit from a charge rate greater than 250KW. What they do need is a chemistry upgrade so that the batteries can hold 250KW charging deeper into the pack.
Full rate charge only at 12%-50% band of battery 🤷♂️ . No EVs are doing better for this… kind of meh for even faster charging once I understood this - they all need to figure this out first.
Some great comments there I think they'll want to make it good enough that it pry open the wallets of people who already have model Ys. The model 3 is now 2-year-old technology so they will certainly move beyond that in some significant way. I had this discussion about battery life with a salesperson at our Tesla dealership she didn't understand why people would need really long range batteries. I want a vehicle that 20 years from now will still have a 400 km range in the dead of winter so let's put 20% degradation on the battery and minus 30° temperature. That is not some strange Edge case that is what living in Canada is like the towns are a long ways apart and it gets very cold in the winter.
My prediction is that they'll release it simultaneously throughout the world when it does come out, to avoid the Osborne effect from having much of an impact the way the Model 3 Highland's staggered rollout did. They'll probably let journalists and UA-cam influencers look at them and review them, but might have a blackout date to release said reviews until maybe a few weeks before release. That's why Elon was adamant that Juniper wasn't coming in 2024. And they're having massive discounts/incentives right now and pushing out as many Model Y's as possible. Aside from getting more sales before 2024 is out, they likely want to flush out any remaining parts that the old legacy ones use so that they can start tooling up for the new parts. It likely won't be 48v nor 800v high voltage or have steer by wire, since that'll differentiate it from the Model 3's components too much, and they share a lot of parts which would lead to more inventory they have to keep track of. We'll probably have to wait for the next refresh for those to kick in for those two models. They might introduce stalk add-on attachments, much like a lot of people complained about the Model S/X yokes, forcing Tesla to introduce round steering wheels (it might've made sense had they of been capable of steer by wire at the time though). That a third party can add them on and will likely be popular will probably have Tesla introduce an official one for those that really want it.
Sure, but you have a gas station generally within 5 to 10 minutes of you, whereas for instance, where my friend went right now with his Tesla, there is no charger within an hour and a half. And of course, you can’t tell them they’re wrong, it is their own money and their own needs. It is very practical, if you live in a suburban area, however, you absolutely do appreciate and have a need for the range, if you live either in an urban environment, where you cannot charge it in your garage, or you live in such a rural area that there are no superchargers nearby. And of course, your range goes down significantly if you ever have to tow, or drive in the winter time and completely forget towing in the winter time. For road tripping, the existing range is completely ridiculous. Let’s say you’re going from New Jersey to Florida, you’re gonna spend 30 to 40% of your time waiting to charge.
@ 30,000 miles a year here including road tripping and probably less than 15% of my charging is supercharging. Our commute is 140 miles round trip and we road trip on the west coast so maybe it’s different on the east coast. Road tripping in a Tesla is a cake walk. Not sure I’d wanna do it without supercharger access though.
@@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC Forget east coast, look at middle america, or parts of Texas.... There are legit areas that have ZERO chargers within an hour or two.... it's fine IF you can charge at home.... but totally not if you are say staying at a hotel, airbnb, etc. This is surely not Cali where close to half the cars sold are EVs? you are talking 1 to 3% for everywhere else... and infrastructure is nowhere near that. Then again with the cold... battery drains! We have two EVs in PA... a 24 Model Y and a 23 Lightning.... both showing around 30% less range right now, just due to weather. This means I cannot do a 180 mile round trip to go record videos without stopping to charge... in my Lightning. Summer time, I get around 250 to 280 miles of range on my standard range pack. As far as road trips... took a rental Model 3 to go from PA to SC.... SR M3.... stopped 4 or 5 times each direction for around 30 to 40 mins.... in WV, the only supercharger was an old Gen 2.... that stop took over an hour to charge enough to get to next SC.... as the most I got was around 50 kwh. a legit 500 mile range would mean I can charge at home, then stop ONCE..... and then get to destination with close to Zero. Also look at all the rental car companies... EVs are HORRIBLE for renting for them.... don't get me wrong, I LOVE EVs and we own 2 of them right now... but it is certainly not for everyone and certainly not right now, before infrastructure is there, especially for those living in apartments with no way to charge lvl 2.
I live in an apartment building without access to home charging. It would be nice to have a larger battery to charge once a week at a high speed charger.
All this is just fluff and wishlist based on what Tesla has done on other models. I don’t expect any groundbreaking improvements like a 500 mile range of 800 V battery or 500 kW charging. However, later there will probably be a larger model Y with a 27 seat capability.
15:21 I hope Elon really gets it on more range. He keeps saying that people don’t need more range, because you would need a break. Maybe most people do but others don’t. The main reason for more range is that people don’t need to charge so often on longer trips. With more people switching to EVs and other OEMs will be using the Superchargers it will be very congested. I hope he can see this will be more of a problem in a few years. Faster charging and more range 500 plus miles would make it really equivalent to the average gas car range and refueling times.
I drive 15,000 miles a year. It would be nice to get 15,000 miles of range?? You do know you can charge at home while you sleep, if you own a house right???????????? If your car doesn't get enough range per charge: stop at one of thousands of the super charge stations across the USA for 15 minutes and get more than 120 miles of range. Just like gas cars, you don't sell when they only go 2/3 the distance you paid for.. just stop and add more power or toxic, expensive gasoline.....
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Please...stop wasting our time with these slow cooking updates...you are just repeating yourself..🙃
Seriously
Getting so tired of this
I think his text is AI generated
Not a lot of content to pump out so... I'm starting to see this in many UA-cam people my opinion is that they are starting to be burned out of the pressure of constantly having to make videos. This may be UA-cam fault because they have created a system where views is what matters.
@@mayajigua2087 You nailed it, I'm seeing it all over and its driving me crazy. They have to hit that 10min mark at least. Whenever I see 10min vids, I see a video that has 2 min worth of actual content.
I think it's important to stick to stocks that are immune to economic policies. AI stocks that have the potential to power and transform future technologies. It seems AI is the trajectory most companies are taking, including even established FAANG companies. Maybe there are other recommendations?
I bought into NVIDIA around September last year because my financial advisor recommended it to me. She said the company is selling shovels in a gold rush. It accounted for almost 80% of my market return this year.
@@JohnsMasterses That's a great analogy and I love the insight. Professionals could make a really big difference in investing, and I think everyone should have one. There are aspects of market trends that are difficult for the untrained eyes to see.
@@SloansHagers That's a great tip. I'm setting out 50k to invest in the market this year. Any particularly useful tips you could offer to me?
@@RobisonsWades I've shuffled through investment coaches; they can positively impact an individual's portfolio. But do your due diligence to find a coach with grit that withstood the 2008 crash. MARGARET MOLLI ALVEY was better and smarter than all the advisors I have ever worked with. I’ve never met anyone with as much conviction.
@@SloansHagers Thank you for this Pointer. It was easy to find your handler, She seems very proficient and flexible.
With the Highland build quality, the Model Y would probably become my first EV.
👍
Just got a new Y LR RWD on lease for a great price ($319/mo) with the tax credit. Got the newish color quicksilver which makes it different than the base dark gray. The build quality is awesome. I was pleasantly surprised for a Fremont build. I really wanted the tax credit so we pulled the trigger. Would like the cooled seats, but didn't want to lose out on this great price.
I freaking love my highland, you won't be disappointed.
As a European who lives in a country with a loooot of roundabouts, I wish Tesla kept the stalks or would at least offer the ability to buy stalks directly from them rather than having to rely on a third party.
Agree
You can get after market stocks now. There's a company that make em....can't fully remember the name, but it starts with "enhanced " they are the company responsible for the tesla sexy buttons .
I live in the UK and have a new stalkless 2024 M3P. it's no issue after a few days.
I live near several roundabouts but FSD handles them flawlessly including turn signals
@@brooks6295 Problem is, FSD isnt allowed in Europe.
Tesla: bi-directional charging, please!
Absolutely!!!
Needed!
His new boss doesn’t care about that
If it increases production costs, they will NOT do it😢
I’d love to see a 500 mile range MY! I don’t have charging at my apartment complex so I go a few days without charging. He would really be targeting the population like myself who don’t expect a daily recharge! The peace of mind would be helpful which it looks like lots of other would agree on :)
I can recommend a company that Now You Know has been advertising a lot lately where you could ask the apt complex if you could have this company drop off the kit. You set it up with solar panels that sit on top and shade your car help (a little) save it from the elements. It has a built in battery and charges up to 4 cars at once. Level 2. The apt complex could make some money from it too. Charge residents a couple or three pennies and charge other that aren’t normally in that complex $.10-$.15 per kWh. Plus a $2 connection fee for those not living there.
Also, I have asked so many times about a 700-800 miles battery too. Lucid has a 500+ miles battery, but we know about that nightmare. Lol They look so nice though. I would love to drive a Lucid.
More range means bigger battery and then more money to charge up
@@keeppushin6725 I have to agree and understand this, but charging up once at home is 1/3 the price and less than charging up anywhere else. My home charge (in WV, USA) is $0.11/kWh. The cheapest place within 75 miles is $0.38 and when I lived out in UT, USA, it got up to $0.49/kWh! I have heard of higher, but this is more than enough. That 500+ miles with the right batteries and right efficiency would be absolutely amazing. Having 100kWh of batteries (normal for today) and having 1000 miles of charge range, sounds impossible now, but would be amazing.
23 minutes of day dreaming.. Hope your wishes come true brother!! ;-)
Powershare is the killer feature
Blinkers on buttons is stupid no matter what the steering is, same goes for the physical gear selector missing and other stuff.
I wish the new model y had traditional blinkers, gear selector and a damn head up display for speed and navigation
Great Video!
I want to but this car!
But I also think I will wait around 3-6 months after release to see prices come back down and not getting the first batch 😅
Keep in mind, a 500mi range is maybe 370mi on the highway at 75mph in 40 degree weather.
And over the years the battery degrades…
@@jeaninebutler8114 Yeah. After 10 years it still rates at 85% (which is still over 300 miles). And all EPA estimates (for ICE and EV) are made on flat ground in ideal conditions and speed limits. In other words - you're not really presenting much of an argument.
@@user-xd1ze4jf6e @user-xd1ze4jf6e Lucky you! Link to your sources? My 4-year-old Model Y no longer charges up to 300...I have taken it across country twice now and noticed a big difference in the range of the battery on the second trip. In fact that second trip was the only time I have ever come close to actually running out of a charge (in a remote part of the Highway) as dusk approached. And I'm sure we have all heard the horror stories about when can happen when running our batteries down to 0.
Don't get me wrong - I LOVE my Model Y, but would prefer more range (500 would be ideal but I would take 400 or anything more...) My last car I drove before this one, I had kept for 17 years...I like to hang on to cars once I get them). But I cannot see myself driving my Model Y for 17 years if the battery keeps degrading every year...
The main reason I plan to upgrade to a Juniper will be for increased range...
I don’t expect significant improvements over Model 3. Not that they can’t, but because they want to make it cheap.
1) I would like to see an auto frunk capability similar to the Hansshow after market auto frunk kit. 2) QI2 charger with magnets.
Im glad I chose not to wait for the juniper when I got my 24 myp in March. It was much further away than I was expecting
I would really love to see induction charging on Juniper (like the proposed Cybercab). It would be convenient to auto charge every time it is parked at home at off peak rates without having to plug it in each time. If bidirectional it would also be great for PowerShare.I suspect this is unlikely but it is nice to dream about it.
I think steer by wire is unlikely because of regulations in different countries. Not a great idea to add a feature into the world’s most popular car that will make it unavailable in many countries due to regulations!
If the new Model Y got steer by wire, I'd trade in my 2023 Model Y Performance!
Great recap! 100% agree on all aspects covered, including 800v/48v questions. And exactly my dilemma holding on to my current Performance Model Y - for how long?
The current cars are still great, I will keep my 2023 MY for many years.
Looking for bidirectional charging before I buy EV
My big questions are 800v instead of 400v? 48v instead of 12v? Stairing wheel like cybertruck?
800v = very likely
48v = very unlikely
Steer by wire = not gonna happen
@@greenearth9945Musk doesn’t think 800V has any benefits.
@@BillB33525 then why did he do the cybertruck with 800v?
Why did he recently upgrade V4 Superchargers to do 500kW?
It cannot be for the CT only since we have 0 of them in Europe but still have plenty of V4 SC.
Besides if the Juniper wont have 800v it will look behind compared to Chinese and Korean EVs
Would love to see 48V architecture and faster charging. Like my stalks, but would like to see steer by wire. Don’t care one way or the other about the ambient lighting and rear seat touch screen.
I’d like to think Tesla will include pretty much all of those system you thought would be left out. The reason for this is that the MY is the cybercab “large” vehicle. If more than 2 people are travelling they need the MY. As such the drive-by-wire, bumper cameras, larger battery, wireless charging etc. Just because the M3 doesn’t have the improvements isn’t necessarily a guide for it not being included on the MY.
Those systems were not ready for the Model 3 launch. They probably are ready now for MY and will be available on M3 later next year
@ totally! I hope they do bring any new advances onto the M3 as soon as they refine the MY versions. It makes sense for manufacturing efficiency if nothing more.
I’d love to see V2X added to current models as well as new versions. I suspect Tesla won’t do this as it will potentially impact their energy business and powerwall3 market.
I know the new model will negatively impact the current value of my 2024 MY but I just can’t wait to see the reveal!! 😃
If this car actually brings significant changes, it would give Tesla a great year... Not just face changes
Very excited for this refresh.
I ordered a 2024 from existing inventory. When I went to acknowledge the agreement it said 2025. So is it a 2025 version of the 2024 or the actual Juniper?
My guess is a split pack so 400v or 800v depending on charger. I bet same pack goes in the Model 3 as they didnt change the pack on the Model 3 last year.
Tesla please release CyberVan for ultimate camp mode + spacious 3 row🎉🎉
Well Model Y vehicles have always been a great vehicle. I have the 2023 Model Y LR AWD vehicle and also has HW4 and newer cameras - I also got the vehicle for the tax credit. I really like the Model Y and all its features. My Model Y also has the Stalks for gear selections and turn signals, which I prefer. I also like the Hatchback style for more storage space than the Model 3 sedan style.
I will keep my current Model Y for a long time, have no need to upgrade.
Good luck if you get the Newer Model Y, you should also enjoy it.
Same here, extremely happy with it!
@@Harrythehun Awesome, great to read your reply.
👋Me too! I like hearing about the changes but I hope my 2023 MY LR AWD, lasts at least 10 years. I like having the stalks but once in a while (has gotten better recently but…) they don’t engage, like turn signal or going into drive. Sometimes I have to press twice and my crazy driving doesn’t always allow for that delay with the turn signals.
Not the first steer by wire car and commercial aircraft have been for 30 years. I think the general tipping point for range is 400 miles. Problem is people are having trouble getting used to range variance on EVs for temperature and driving style and altitude etc. ICE it’s like 10% but on an EV it can be as much as 30-40% reduction for one of those reasons. People will be comfortable with 400 miles because it means guaranteed all weather all driving styles 350 miles of range.
Except for the failed Q50 Infiniti, Cyber is the only production vehicle today to be totally drive by wire. Everything else was one-offs and race cars aka hardly important. Range is a non issue, most people don't drive 40 miles a day. EVs totally dominate over ICE cars in Norway and I believe it's cold there. ICE car sales are declining year over year and EVs are climbing NOT FOR NO REASON. Add in EVs today are the worst they will ever be - next year they will be better, just one battery break away from solid state or super-cap/solid state and there will be 1000 miles range and a charging time of a couple minutes. Gas cars are gone by 2035 anyway - 10 years from now but the public will kill them off way sooner. 🎱
Still no true 3 row option like ev9 or hyundai new ionic 9 😢
Could they differentiate even more the Performance model?
Probably about like they did with the new M3P.
I think a 500 mile range would tip a lot of people over the edge who have been otherwise holding off.
When's the last time you drove 500 miles in one shot? There needs to be more education as to why do people need this kind of range anyways?
@there are two possibly three scenarios that lead me to the conclusion that 500 mile range would be desirable.
A) The day trip. One can realistically drive 3 hours to visit someone or some place, spend 3 hours there, then drive home. It may not be possible or convenient to change at the location. 3 hours driving on a motor way doing 70mpg equates to 210 miles, with the return trip that’s 420 miles, you’d want a contingency allowance, so that’s where the 500 miles comes from. It’s a long day as it is, so you don’t want to spend ~40 mis to an hour on the way home to charge up enough to get home.
B) The overnighter. Like A) but you stay somewhere over night and drive back the following day, but it may not be convenient to charge up at the location overnight.
C) the multi day Road trip. I can drive 3 hours at a time, maybe even a bit more, but I then want a 5 min break, just to stretch legs / go loo etc. then I’ll drive for another 3 hours or so, or a tad more. So again, it’s a long day, you just want to get to your destination as soon as possible. Two 3 or 3.5 hour stints puts me in the 500 mile range. I don’t want to be forced into stopping mid journey for an hour to fully recharge.
Most of my driving over the past 10 years has been akin to B) above, so, yes, I do this sort of thing a fair bit unfortunately. And when I arrive at my location, I have been busy and do not have time to waste waiting for a car to charge & I can’t charge at the location I’m visiting.
Besides, my ICE vehicle can do 580 miles on a tank, I’ve been accustomed to, and appreciate that on my trips, I can fill up the night before I’m going, and I know I can comfortably get there & back without having to worry about filling up.
If/When EV’s can go from 0% to 100% charge in 5 mins, and EV chargers are on every street corner, then yes, I’d agree a 500 mile range is unnecessary, but until then, a 500 mile range is desirable for those who don’t just use their vehicle for a daily 30 mile commute, or to nip down to the shops once a week.
@@mattmcfly2165 i live in Canada. We often travel many miles in one day. A 500 mile range would do wonders for us as it would compensate for the energy loss in cold weather yet still allow for a full day of travelling.
500 mile range is a waste of money. I only charge my Model 3 to 80% on roadtrips it's enough because there are so many Superchargers. We do splash and dashes every couple of hours, i.e. we do a 10 minute stop to go to the bathroom and splash and that's enough time for the car to add 75-100 miles of dash.
My M3LR is my third Tesla and the MX100D was my favorite. I did a trip around the USA for just over 8,100 miles pulling a 2,800lbs (dry weight)/almost 3,500 lbs camper. Thank god for camp spots around the US in 2021 or I would have never made it. I did have to leave my camper a few times and come back for it. That 500 miles would definitely had made it better.
Nice episode. Appreciate all the info in one place. And I took advantage of the extra discount on the hover pens. Very cool. 😎
I would like to see a 500 mile range!! in part to improve towing distances, but also just for general reassurance when traveling
I'm hoping / expecting a lot of the Model Y wish-list items to come to S/X first instead. I think it would make more sense to put bi-directional charging, 500kw charging, etc. on the higher end vehicles first and then trickle that tech down to the next iterations of the 3/Y in ~3+ years.
I’m really hoping that FSD purchase becomes transferable again
Thank you, Ryan for the great review of the upcoming model Y. By the way, I ordered one of the Novium pens. Thank you for the discount.
Tesla sales in Australia are at an all time low due to the large range of Chinese models now available at much lower prices. I hope Tesla can come up with the right product and pricing.
Keep buying Chinese until the cars start messing up like they are in China.
PowerShare for Model Y!!!
Larger battery means higher cost and these consumers like the price more manageable, especially with how income has become stagnant while inflation is through the roof. I live in Wyoming so a higher range would be amazing, but i can't afford a $60k+ vehicle
Not buying a Tesla until it can power my home. How can Tesla be behind on this when they lead in stationary storage.
Now I am hearing about Opal, the follow on to Juniper. That seems to me to be a good target for the good battery and charging changes that we all want to see in the Y model in January. Do you have any guidance on the Opal version?
800V architecture makes little sense at this point in time and price, partially due to the requirement of a series-parallel switch for charging. In a more expensive car like Cybertruck, yes, but not on the Model Y.
The curve aspect is more important than the peak charging speed, so I hope for a flatter one.
More sense is a 10+% increase in battery capacity, made possible by the new 2170 and 4680 cells, especially on the performance version.
Hoping to get at least a 120 volt outlet.
I would really like to see the 800V architecture and light bars front and rear.
Turn signal stalks. When humans are operating vehicles it’s good to have controls that the human body can interface with. In modern jets, there could be a left right slide switch for engine throttles but it makes less sense than big lever that make the plane go forward when the levers are moved forward. Good point about quick steering and buttons in this video.
48v and variable steering. And all those performance versions are people that like to drive !
500 mile range for those in countries with slow supercharger installation. Being able to drive between super chargers is not enough. For instance before the installation in Kayenta AZ, it was very difficult to go sight seeing in the painted desert. (The Navajos get a lot of money from wells)
To drive around sightseeing they have to be closer together. They failed on the cyber truck, put it on the Yp.
More power, does the most popular Tesla have to have the slowest performance in the performance version?
Front camera. I use summon quite a bit when forced to park nose in, the nose camera might make this a little easier.
I'm waiting for the Model Y Juniper with the hopes that it will have all the upgrades from the new Model 3 along with the front/rear light bars, and a fix for the noisy rear hatch. Anything else like a larger battery, will probably make the price jump out of my price range.
How about a rain sensor it probably costs $5
@ryan will there be a heated steering wheel!?!
There already is
🤗THANKS RYAN , we will wait and see,👀 hopefully getting most of the things you talked about 🤷♂️
It is going to be interesting to see how the Juniper MY is going to stack up in China to the Xpeng G6 and the Xiaomi YU7 both of which use 800-volt architecture and undercut the current MY in price!
Idk if the pack voltage is a game changer right now. The superchargers are 400 volts, and charging out those will take years.
2025 will be amazing
500kw charging might be good for Cyber Truck but is overkill for model y. How long is it going to be above 250? 30sec. 45sec. Maybe? No thanks. Won’t be applicably faster either.
will be fascinating in 2025
One major feature I'm looking for in Juniper is AI4 hardware. That change should make FSD V13 and later available immediately but it may delay the hinted upgrade of HW3 cars to AI4 in order to protect the sales of Juniper. I think many of the HW3 car owners on the road will wait for that upgrade while many will decide to trade in their HW3 cars for the Juniper as long as it has AI4 which I can't see Tesla leaving out. Also given that the Model Y is such a great road tripper especially for families, I think (or at least am hoping) that Tesla will include the 800V architecture in Juniper. Also, if they arre looking for many Model Y Juniper owners to offer their cars to Tesla's early RoboTaxi network then not only faster charging on V4 EVSEs as well as steer-by-wire commonality with the CyberCab later in 2 regions (SF Bay Area and Austin Metro) in 2025 makes for good future planning with the Juniper refresh. Changing the build lines over to a new vehicle can cost a lot and Tesla may not want to do that once for Juniper without those 2 features and then again to catch it up to the CC when it scales up. Probably just my wishful thinking but why not? Cheers and thanks Ryan for the analysis.
All MY currently produced already have AI4
Don’t care about the shifter but the lack of a consistently located indicator, such as a stalk, stinks. On the wheel, it moves. I shouldn’t have to think about where it is. It is an unnecessary distraction.
I'll trade in my Model Y if the new version has steer by wire
i dont like the lack of stalks, im happier keeping my 2023 model 3......
I'm just glad I got a Model Y with stalks while I could. It won't have a bumper camera or power frunk so there is nothing new for me.
I very Highly doubt that the new Model Y will get a 800V, it will like to have what the Model 3 400V have with max 230w charging speed.
Why are people so anti-500 miles in here? More range is good. Nobody has ever said they had too much gas in their car.
Trust me, they know they don't get their rated miles. 500 miles rating is actually more like 350miles actual range.
@ I mean do they? It’s always this argument about people’s bathroom habits when all I want is a realistic one-car scenario.
@@csguak depends. EPA ratings are based on ideal conditions. Match those conditions and you'll get 500 miles. Just like my car's advertised 24mpg - but I average 18.. lol
I rarely drive my MYP anymore. I got a silverado ev with 450 miles that actually delivers close to that range at highway speeds. So much more convenient on road trips. I did an 1800 mile round trip and only had to stop 4 times to charge. (one night charging at my hotel)
4680 is languishing. That’s why.
I want a softer ride than my 2023 Y.
You and many people talk about the design, could be the avarage buyer looks at design but tesla buyers look at the tech. I wanna know the the new voltage system from the cybertruck will be in the model y.
nvm, i commented too soon 😀
Why can’t I get a sunroof in this car.?
I'd love a 95 kWh Model Y!
Bi-directional charging is not exactly a no-brainer viz battery warranty!
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath for a new Model Y with a Front camera next year. I would be more than happy to be proven wrong.
Ryan! I'd say BYD, and other Chinese vehicles literally outnumber Tesla in terms of the range of miles so I hope they compete them already and not few years because consumers need longer-range electric vehicles.
Who travels more than 300 miles without needing a break. Tesla charges 200 miles in 12 mins.
More miles is long overdue!
Debating on this or waiting for a cyber truck late 2025
I can’t wait to get rid of mine. It was a poor choice with subpar quality. After hitting 100k miles, there’s no chance I’d buy it again.
powershare!
I’ll probably pass on Juniper, with losing the tax credit and not getting the 800 V architecture and power share. I’ll wait, especially with the trend and dentistry for lower pricing on EV’s, including lower cost battery packs.
You are gonna buy it… and you know it! 👉
No point in 800V charging in a car, the battery isn't big enough to benefit from a charge rate greater than 250KW. What they do need is a chemistry upgrade so that the batteries can hold 250KW charging deeper into the pack.
Full rate charge only at 12%-50% band of battery 🤷♂️ .
No EVs are doing better for this… kind of meh for even faster charging once I understood this - they all need to figure this out first.
Yes new MY will be a M3 with different looks. That's how Tesla works
Some great comments there I think they'll want to make it good enough that it pry open the wallets of people who already have model Ys. The model 3 is now 2-year-old technology so they will certainly move beyond that in some significant way. I had this discussion about battery life with a salesperson at our Tesla dealership she didn't understand why people would need really long range batteries. I want a vehicle that 20 years from now will still have a 400 km range in the dead of winter so let's put 20% degradation on the battery and minus 30° temperature. That is not some strange Edge case that is what living in Canada is like the towns are a long ways apart and it gets very cold in the winter.
Great video thanks
Better be big changes. Or its old model in discount for me.
New more powerful computer?
Steer by wire was first introduced by lexus in vehicles. 13:21
My prediction is that they'll release it simultaneously throughout the world when it does come out, to avoid the Osborne effect from having much of an impact the way the Model 3 Highland's staggered rollout did. They'll probably let journalists and UA-cam influencers look at them and review them, but might have a blackout date to release said reviews until maybe a few weeks before release.
That's why Elon was adamant that Juniper wasn't coming in 2024. And they're having massive discounts/incentives right now and pushing out as many Model Y's as possible. Aside from getting more sales before 2024 is out, they likely want to flush out any remaining parts that the old legacy ones use so that they can start tooling up for the new parts.
It likely won't be 48v nor 800v high voltage or have steer by wire, since that'll differentiate it from the Model 3's components too much, and they share a lot of parts which would lead to more inventory they have to keep track of. We'll probably have to wait for the next refresh for those to kick in for those two models.
They might introduce stalk add-on attachments, much like a lot of people complained about the Model S/X yokes, forcing Tesla to introduce round steering wheels (it might've made sense had they of been capable of steer by wire at the time though). That a third party can add them on and will likely be popular will probably have Tesla introduce an official one for those that really want it.
3 weeks ?? Wheres that ?
Nice recap
Rear camera washer
spoiler alert - the Juniper is not coming in 3 weeks. It'll be here in June.
If they move to 800V for the new Y will make sense to also bring Power Share, 48V and steer by wire to keep the new models in line.
Really excited. Gettng one for my wife. Hope it has the steer by wire and 48 volt architecture. No other sedan/suv could touch it.
The tax credit is a congressional budget type of thing. It won’t be going away until Jan 2026…
My guess... Jan announcement. Feb sale
Why would anyone want steer by wire? If it gets hacked your in the river.
I want better turning radius on the Y......IT SUCKS
Really! Compared to what vehicle?
Think I’m going Lucid next.
Why is range such a big deal to non EV drivers? LOL They have a 1000 and one excuses but hardly drive their ICE care more than 100 miles a day.
Sure, but you have a gas station generally within 5 to 10 minutes of you, whereas for instance, where my friend went right now with his Tesla, there is no charger within an hour and a half. And of course, you can’t tell them they’re wrong, it is their own money and their own needs. It is very practical, if you live in a suburban area, however, you absolutely do appreciate and have a need for the range, if you live either in an urban environment, where you cannot charge it in your garage, or you live in such a rural area that there are no superchargers nearby. And of course, your range goes down significantly if you ever have to tow, or drive in the winter time and completely forget towing in the winter time. For road tripping, the existing range is completely ridiculous. Let’s say you’re going from New Jersey to Florida, you’re gonna spend 30 to 40% of your time waiting to charge.
@ 30,000 miles a year here including road tripping and probably less than 15% of my charging is supercharging. Our commute is 140 miles round trip and we road trip on the west coast so maybe it’s different on the east coast. Road tripping in a Tesla is a cake walk. Not sure I’d wanna do it without supercharger access though.
@@MikesProjectsandHobbiesMC Forget east coast, look at middle america, or parts of Texas.... There are legit areas that have ZERO chargers within an hour or two.... it's fine IF you can charge at home.... but totally not if you are say staying at a hotel, airbnb, etc. This is surely not Cali where close to half the cars sold are EVs? you are talking 1 to 3% for everywhere else... and infrastructure is nowhere near that. Then again with the cold... battery drains! We have two EVs in PA... a 24 Model Y and a 23 Lightning.... both showing around 30% less range right now, just due to weather. This means I cannot do a 180 mile round trip to go record videos without stopping to charge... in my Lightning. Summer time, I get around 250 to 280 miles of range on my standard range pack. As far as road trips... took a rental Model 3 to go from PA to SC.... SR M3.... stopped 4 or 5 times each direction for around 30 to 40 mins.... in WV, the only supercharger was an old Gen 2.... that stop took over an hour to charge enough to get to next SC.... as the most I got was around 50 kwh. a legit 500 mile range would mean I can charge at home, then stop ONCE..... and then get to destination with close to Zero. Also look at all the rental car companies... EVs are HORRIBLE for renting for them.... don't get me wrong, I LOVE EVs and we own 2 of them right now... but it is certainly not for everyone and certainly not right now, before infrastructure is there, especially for those living in apartments with no way to charge lvl 2.
I live in an apartment building without access to home charging. It would be nice to have a larger battery to charge once a week at a high speed charger.
@ I’d never consider an EV if I couldn’t charge at home. But that’s just me. I’m perfectly OK with driving ICE if I have too.
All this is just fluff and wishlist based on what Tesla has done on other models. I don’t expect any groundbreaking improvements like a 500 mile range of 800 V battery or 500 kW charging. However, later there will probably be a larger model Y with a 27 seat capability.
F1 cars do not have steer by wire. It would be a killer....like literally...
I’m not buying the 24 y for a reason. It’s got a 7-8 year old design at this point.
The design looks a bit dated but the car has constantly been updated with newer hardware.
I dont mind an outdated design if I save 12K
People are already waiting for the refresh...we are...
F1 cars do not have steer by wire. If they did, then Ricciardo would not have broken his hand in the crash he had last year.
I’ll believe it when I see it, but let’s hope
15:21 I hope Elon really gets it on more range. He keeps saying that people don’t need more range, because you would need a break. Maybe most people do but others don’t. The main reason for more range is that people don’t need to charge so often on longer trips. With more people switching to EVs and other OEMs will be using the Superchargers it will be very congested. I hope he can see this will be more of a problem in a few years. Faster charging and more range 500 plus miles would make it really equivalent to the average gas car range and refueling times.
Cyber truck does have a backup
I drive 15,000 miles a year. It would be nice to get 15,000 miles of range?? You do know you can charge at home while you sleep, if you own a house right????????????
If your car doesn't get enough range per charge: stop at one of thousands of the super charge stations across the USA for 15 minutes and get more than 120 miles of range. Just like gas cars, you don't sell when they only go 2/3 the distance you paid for.. just stop and add more power or toxic, expensive gasoline.....