Cornette is an absolute trip. He complains about modern wrestlers doing flips, but Yuji is one of the purest wrestlers on the planet and he still doesn't know who the guy is or care just because he's Japanese.
I agree with Jim, and I only tuned in to AEW that night to watch the Moxley - Nagata match. I'm an NJPW fan and it appealed to me, I don't know that it appealed to any AEW fans.
Point is they're not booking Moxley vs Christian, a former WWE star who people may know, but book Nagata who anyone flipping channels won't know and will see an elderly undersizedJapanese man wrestling
I never seen my husband laugh so hard until he heard Wild Thing come on and even asked if Charlie Sheen was coming out.... I didn't get it at first hahahahahaha
Nagata is more known worldwide than The Rock N Roll Express, Jim. Puts on better matches too. Yes, I still remember you jumping up and down in the ring 2 years ago on NWA PowerRR when they won the titles at a combined age of 122. From that day on I couldn't take you serious anymore. Now I'm here to laugh at your out of touch "old guy yells at cloud" rants and the new "AeW iS pOoPoO cUz WwE RuLz" fanbase of 12-year-olds you've been attracting lately.
They just seem to be using it to promote the brand in the US which has been something they've been working on for the past 5 or so years. So in the grand scheme of things it's fitting.
sure then why does my gramps don't know about this nagatoe guy? and my gramps knew about the likes of Iron Shiek, Bruno Sammartino, Vader, or Andre the Giant.
Jim is just stating that he never made international fame, he's not going to be known by 99999 out of 100000 people in the US and Europe. He's a Japanese wrestling legend as he said.
For any casual fans who remembered Yuji Nagata...they remember him as an opening to mid card at best guy from WCW in the mid-late 90's. That's the reality none of these AEW fan girls want to admit.
The reality you don't want to admit is that time goes on and talent evolves. Nagata went on to become IWGP champion. With your logic Drew would still be a curtainjerking jobber in 3MB. Also: casual fans watch WWE, not AEW.
@@staalhard666 The reality you don't want to admit is that AEW not getting the attention of casual fans is why they'll never even come close to being real competition to the WWE. AEW have got a small, hardcore fanbase that'll watch anything they put on television but it's not going to grow because they keep wasting money to bring in people like Yuji Nagata that don't mean anything to casual fans and won't convince them to watch. Who gives a toss if Nagata won the IWGP belt? Does anyone outside of Japan and a relative handful of people obsessed with wrestling know what that even is? I bet if you told someone on the street what IWGP stood for they'd ask you what wrestling has to do with racing. AEW would've gotten more mileage out of bringing in the Nasty Boys. They're in the same age group as Nagata, their work wouldn't have impressed anyone either but at least you'd have a very slight chance of casual wrestling fans recognising them and maybe tuning in after hearing they'd be on the show. Having Nagata on here was just AEW jerking off their hardcore fans that'll tune in every week anyway. It did nothing for the growth of this company.
@@alexcole4838 AEW has announced since the beginning that they're an alternative. Casual fans watch WWE. And zap away if Cena or Undertaker isn't on. That's all there is to it really. AEW has 66% of the RAW crowd and 50% of the SD crowd after one year and a half of Dynamite. That's quite amazing since they're on cable and WWE on network. I will leave out the fact that WWE is a 40-year-old public established billionnaire corporation, otherwise i would just embarrass you further. By the way: the regular joe on the street doesn't know who Roman and Lashley are either. And when was the last time WWE experienced growth? They lose 500k viewers each year.
@@staalhard666 You think you're embarrassing me? XD First of all, Cena and Undertaker haven't been a fixture of WWE for years so maybe do some better research mate. I could count on my fingers the number of times both guys have wrestled in the past 5 years. They barely appear on TV even when they do have a match booked. Despite that the WWE are still doing far better than a company that has two of the biggest names of the most popular period in the history of televised wrestling regularly appearing on it. As far as the ratings of AEW, really not that impressive. TNA was able to do comparable ratings within their first year on TV when their biggest star was Jeff Jarrett. They didn't have anywhere near the budget that AEW has or the starpower and they didn't have the benefit of a worldwide epidemic crippling most other forms of entertainment that could divert attention from their show. The fact that AEW with all its advantages is comparable to early TNA TV ratings just goes to show that they're a joke. On top of that, while WWE might only have twice the TV ratings of AEW on their highest rated show they also have people watching each show through their streaming services. AEW won't ever reach their numbers. You claiming that AEW are trying to be an "alternative" to WWE doesn't hold water either. Their owner and their stars are taking every opportunity to act as if they've just struck a fatal blow to the WWE every time they manage to beat their televised developmental show full of nobodies. They claim it's a Wednesday Night War so AEW are clearly trying to position themselves as competition to the WWE. Btw, I've heard people talking about Lashley on and off since 2007. Even when he wasn't on TV people were interested in him. Same with Roman, especially after his bout with cancer. The top WWE stars might not be as big among the general public as Hogan or Austin and their peers but people know them. If you asked them what they thought of MJF they'd probably assume it was some sort of skin rash cream. They'd only remember Cody Rhodes as one of the guys that used to job out to HHH and Orton a decade ago. The only people the casual public knows of from AEW is Chris Jericho who's done nothing but cause embarrassment for the promotion and Sting. Let me tell you, the only thing you ever hear being said about them is how ridiculous it is they're still wrestling. The WWE isn't a 40 year old established corporation. The WWE has in some form been around and been successful for longer than your grandparents will likely have been alive. Despite that, plenty of promotions were able to pop up as legitimate challengers over the years. Hell, WCW was only founded in 1988 so the biggest challenge the WWE ever faced on TV and that nearly put them out of business only existed for 12 years total. Trying to claim the WWE has some sort of advantage because of age is bull and you know it. The billionaire bit is irrelevant and just shows your ignorance since the Khans could buy and sell the WWE multiple times over if they wanted. As for your last couple of sentences, the WWE doesn't need to grow. They should want to regardless but they don't need to. They're the leader in regards to pro wrestling. Their so-called competition needs to grow to match them and AEW is not doing that and it never will. Filling your responses with so many silly, see-through little attempts to try and excuse AEW for its failure to compete with the WWE doesn't change that.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jim's assessment. The thing that Jim is overlooking is the fact that the AEW audience is, by and large, a circle-jerk of Internet Wrestling fans. At its worst, the IWC is a group of slimy jackasses that would make QAnon seem reasonable, by direct comparison. But, at its best, (Which, THANKFULLY, is over half of them) they're passionate wrestling fans, who are making use of technological advances that the old school tape traders would have given their left eye to have, to watch wrestling that doesn't have enough eyes on it. Case in point: To what extent would American fans have heard of great talents like Zack Saber Jr, Walter, or Rampage Brown, if not for the IWC engaging in a worldwide scale word-of-mouth campaign, to get people to check their shit out? My point is that if ANY group of wrestling fans had heard of Yuji Nagata, and become familiar enough with his work, to grasp who he is, and to understand why he matters, it's AEW fans. (Okay. NXT fans, as well.)
Well said. I became a fan of Walter after people started talking about him in Brock Lesnar videos. I began searching up matches, and sure enough I found some matches with Walter versus some of my personal favorite indie stars (though, Cornette would probably call them "vanilla midgets"). In any case, I was one of the devoted (maybe blindly so) fans who then began watching NXT UK simply because they had nabbed Walter. It was also the IWC that turned me on to the Bullet Club, which led me to becoming a fan of Shinsuke Nakamura, The Golden Lovers, and one of the most badass pro-wrestlers ever... Katsuyori Shibata. Same thing with guys like Samoa Joe, Prince Devitt, and Lo-Ki (though to be fair, I was a fan of Lo-Ki ever since I saw him in ECW, but I lost track of him after his short WWE run. The IWC were keen to keep track of his whereabouts in the indie scene, thankfully). It was also thanks to the IWC that I encountered a lot of classic matches and crossovers from the 1980s, as well as being introduced to guys like Zack Zaber Jr, Punishment Martinez and Jonathan "The Octopus" Gresham. I think AEW is right to (re)introduce guys like Nagata to their audience, but I think they need to do a FAR better job packaging the promotion of their content (i.e., the wrestlers) for people that regular or nascent fans aren't very informed about.
Man... we were deprived of great wrestling stars since 99/2000, thus the indy wrestling era blew up while the only show in town had relinquished to only hiring the ovw top talent and wcw and ecw guys. Nothing against them, all great talent/mostly great. But most of these guys are far past their prime until aew showed up. Idc, love wrestling. Impact has good stuff, nxt has good stuff with ppl who deserve it, aew has good stuff with ppl who deserve it. Covid killed aew, i hope they can bounce back
Moxley vs Nagata is about as close to a WRESTLING match as Moxley has had in AEW. No bullshit high spots. No weapons. No 47 false finishes. Hit him with the Paradigm Shift and its over. Thanks for at least somewhat trying to have a wrestling match, Mox.
WWE brings in a 50yo wrestler and fans lose their minds “he’s taking a spot from a younger talent”. AEW bring in a 50yo Japanese wrestler & it’s the greatest thing ever
@@qorpse Not really though. Jon Moxley/ Dean Ambrose is the IWGP US Heavyweight Champion. Since NJPW merged the IC Championship with the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship, that means the US Championship is the ranking mid card belt in NJPW. Moxley defends that title way less often than he should. In the instance that he does defend that belt, doesn't NJPW have an obligation to ensure that one of their rising future stars competes for and/or wins that belt on their way up the card. Yuji Nagata competing for the US title is the equivalent of Hacksaw Jim Duggan competing for the WWE IC title in the mid 2000's. That spot should have been given to a young, up and coming NJPW star like Sho and Yoh or Ren Narita and they should have gone over Moxley. At least then, the title could be defended on a consistent basis in NJPW.
@@RoreyG Another bad comparison. This is nothing like Hacksaw in 2000 - Yuji is still in shape, still regularly competes and is a multiple time former IWGP world champ. He's booked as past his prime and thus not in the running for the top title, but certainly worthy of a shot at still only debatably the secondary title there as they also have the Openweight title that's been kinda tied with the US title as the tertiary title in New Japan. And he didn't win that anyway. As a once hardcore WWF fan and as someone who enjoys more than one company, I am very aware of Yuji, and as a fan of interpromotional angles, I loved watching a show including a title match that wasn't even for one of that company's titles. That's exciting shit for me and I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard. I don't know if I'd say it was a great match, but a fun little opener for sure. I love Cornette and used to listen to his shows regularly, but he really has become so bitter and negative that all he does is rip on literally every company that gets mentioned and he's become much worse for the pro wrestling business than any of the bad booking he complains about elsewhere. And his dickriders in the comments just perpetuate it.
"Wild Thing" was a tribute to Atsushi Onita. A Japanese Deathmatch performer that has a great influenced on Moxley. Unsurprising. AEW core fanbase are hardcore fans of the 90-00s onward. Their prime demographic is 18-49 year olds and skews toward the younger end of that quadrant. It makes perfect sense and is inline with almost every discussion outlet that those fans of AEW would know about NJPW. Again, refer back to C2E2 two years ago, when the EVPs said they want to serve their hardcore audience first. Which it seems they have from viewership #s. Doubt Mox vs. Nagata was intended to appeal to Joe Schmo who is really only familiar with WWE. That's not who AEW are principally interested in catering toward with this style of match.
Again though, how many normal people would know that in America? I'm a big fan of Japanese wrestling, and even I didn't make the Onita connection to Wild Thing when I watched the match. Just seems a little self indulgent to me to be honest.
@@nh7680 yeah, agreed. But even then, how is Onita relevant to this match? Just because Nagata is Japanese? Actually can't remember who Onita wrestled against in NJPW aside from Muta. Maybe it was Nagata. Again, you're right because the commentators should've reminded those of us who care, and explained to everyone who knows nothing about Japanese wrestling
I agree. Those forearm shots him and Mox delivered were pretty feeble though. I think the match would have been better if it had gone a little longer too being as 10 minutes seems a bit short (Mox's new entrance theme is a terrible fit for him too).
@@tempestfennac9687 if they don't change that theme back I'm gonna be pissed, also I got a question when did this forearm crap become a thing what happened to punches
@@mulletman6298 I'm really not sure. I kind of stopped watching WWE stuff years ago, watched a few episodes of the World of Sport revival and started watching Dynamite when that started but I've never been into indie or foreign wrestling so I can't remember them being a thing before AEW started.
@@bigfloridapimp well I'm sure it can look good as long as it's not overdone but it just looks so dumb why would you use an forearm instead of a fist in a fight.
@@planexshifter I understand that point of view but he had side to him that was genuine as well and that made you connect with him. His cameos too in the last year were hilarious. Despite his mishaps and take no prisoners attitude it's still sad to see him go
Nagata botched the finish. He made that DDT look like a regular under hook suplex. Like most AEW matches, they kick out of all kinds of crazy moves that could.be finishes, only to have the actual finish look weak af. They are wrestlings version of blue balls
@@standardofexcellence the young bucks superkicks being the prime example, one used to end a match. Either the people the kick are the toughest in the world or their kicks are like childrens..
"Who cares about Nagata" Cornette appeals to smart fans yet acts like that's not who watches AEW. Lots of people knew who he was. 2nd, Him using wild thing was a homage to Onita, not a movie
Corny doesn't appeal to smart fans, he appeals to old school fans. American old school fans know nothing about Japanese wrestling other than the Great Muta
What Jim doesn't realize is that WE ALL HAVE SMART PHONES, we can find out who he is and who made the song an all the info in 30secs. We can get HYPE by the time the entrances are over, he's really dumbing down the audience watching.
@@ricolewis2949 See NJPW kept John as champ for this very reason, they wanted to do these kind of matches with him before covid stalled things. Had this been before social media it wouldn't have gone over as it did.
Brian: loves the cheap pops Also Brian: berates the cheap pops This is why we can't have nice things - if I wanted to listen to "hit records" I'd listen to the music in my phone, as I've an extensive music collection.
The WWF had Dick Murdoch and Mil Mascaras in the Royal Rumble one year and I doubt most fans at the time knew them. Certainly not Kevin Dunn who didn't even know the name Terry Funk.
You've got to understand what he's in NJPW right now. A trainer, sometimes he is against the modern stars and he's always set to lose. It's a shame, he should have kept to the small stuff in Japan or U.S. L.A. dojo.
@@TheLibermania Sometimes you have to educate the fans so they appreciate more. Don't expect people to be aware of everything and no need for you to educate them little to get them invested.
The 1200 people (sell out) at the St Pete show when New Japan came over in January of 2020, we all knew who Yuji Nagata was. Jim is out of touch on this one.
Parkman: I bet you don't have enough hair on your ass to throw me another. Rick Vaughn: Well, here it comes, Parkman. The ol'number1, the Terminator. You get a piece, you can rename it.
it'll be the first ever wheelchair match where the opponents are in a no dq match except they have to stay in the wheelchairs and the way you win is to knock your opponent out of the wheelchair
It's a little different in Japanese Wrestling. Their fans are conditioned to revere the old guys which is why its not uncommon for guys to have 40 plus year careers and be treated like big deals and main eventers all the way up to the end. Great Muta, Minoru Suzuki, Jushin Liger, Mitsuharu Masawa, Fujiwara etc
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Jim to discover NJPW World, but fingers are still crossed that he will eventually figure out USPS Click N Ship. 😆
My personal viewpoint related to Cornette's either Mox should drop the IWGP United States Title to someone on the New Japan roster like Tanahashi or just do the part time thing like Jericho did and just never hold a New Japan Title.
Wild Thing in Major League was performed by an LA band called X. I don't think Joan Jett ever covered that song. They should have used Sam Kinnison's version instead.
Yeah Runaways did but it wasn't even the version they kept hyping since they kept mentioning the film and Onita both used the X Cover. But it's whatever Last is sometimes an enabler when it comes to Corny being flat out wrong. I know jim doesn't use a smart phone but there's no reason Brian can't
Sorry Jim but Yuji is a 'Wrestling Legend' not just of Japanese wrestling. For somebody who respects old school wrestling, should be giving him more props than what your doing.
I don't disagree with Jim often but this time im a bit conflicted. Its like when WWE introduced Chainsaw Charlie because nobody would know who Terry Funk was. Jim said wrestling fans are very loyal and very remembering. I know you can't compare Terry Funk and Yuji Nagata but still. Ofcourse none of the "younger" fans will remember him but veterans like me sure remember him. I can see Cornette's point though as the avarage AEW viewer is 12 years old and doesn't have a clue who Yuji is.
Wrestling fans know who Yuju Nagata is, especially when he's been on Impact Wrestling, ROH, MLW, and AEW. The only people who don't know who Yuju Nagata is are WWE sports entertainment fans. If you're a WWE bootlicker your not a wrestling fan. Wrestling fans might like WWE but the don't live in a WWE bubble where they don't know someone like Yuju Nagata who has been a constant presence in the annual PWI 500 every single year since it's inception.
I forgot about Nagata until his match wuth Kurt Angle on Global Impact, I didnt know big of a deal he was in wrestling up until that point and after that match I became a big fan and binge watched whatever i could find of him on youtube in 2008 so I was kind of excited for the match
Old school wrestling that Jim was involved in looks equally as phony and cheesy. Pot bellied dudes with hardly an athletic bone in their body, tap dancing around the ring with shitty footwork and timing. I don't know how Jim lives in such cognitive dissonance.
That was when the music didn't get licenced, which is why it's all dubbed over on the commercial video releases and the Network. Stuff like "Enter Sandman", "Natural Born Killaz", "Come Out And Play" and "Man In The Box" were a few years old by that point, admittedly not like 20+ years old like "Born to be Wild" but still. Balls Mahoney had "Big Balls" by AC/DC which was from 1980. Didn't the FBI use "Stayin' Alive" as well?
copyright was different in the 90's. you could get away with that kind of thing without a license. i guarantee they didn't pay for born to be wild for cactus jack.
I really dont hate the idea of Moxley coming out to classic rock, i just feel Wild Thing is a bad fit. Imagine if he kicked that door open and marched out to Paint it Black or Fortunate Son.
I know Jim wasn't going to watch the latest darkside of the ring episode (GAGE) but gawd dam if he only just watched the first 5 minutes we would get a great pissed off/disgusted promo. That outlaw mud show so called "wrestling" was worse then i could imagine. Moxley's appearance - he acted like GAGE was Stone Cold
I've watched every episode of Dark Side so far, but this one I turned off after about 10 minutes. I just didn't care about this guy at all. And I'm someone who used to watch Japanese deathmatch wrestling back in the late 90s-early 2000s and even attended a show in Japan a couple years ago.
I think that the lockdowns have atrophied Nagata's body. Before Covid he could still move well enough, but he's way over the hill now. It's a shame. That wasn't a typical NJPW singles match, and was a poor advert for their in ring product. I think it's time for Nagata to retire
I think it’s better to judge him when wrestling in his own environment. He could’ve been having a bad night or maybe being in aew he felt like he would be best to wrestle a little lighter. I don’t know. A few months ago he was still having good matches so I wouldn’t really say it’s time for him to retire just yet, plus his abilities are perfectly fine for his role in njpw. Personally I thought the match was pretty good, nothing ppv worthy but good.
@@zakrowe1301 It wasn't just Nagata. Moxley worked so light with him. I've never seen an NJPW match with such lame forearms. Not a title match at least. Very possible that Nagata is injured. I am just catching up with NJPW from last year and I haven't seen any Nagata matches in a while. Just finished with 2020. A lot of the time I skip the multiman matches, so that's why I see little of Nagata. Like in the g1, I never watch multiman matches, althiugh there weren't any last g1
The match wasn’t a major event. But the match felt really good. It was great. It was face vs. face. It was about respect. If good old Corney can’t accept respect then I’m truly at a loss. And maybe I should just give up...
There were no dives, Moxley didn't do any garbage hardcore bs, it didn't go 150mph because Nagata is so old, it didn't last 20+ minutes and the ddt was the finish instead of 15 false finishes, pound for pound I'd say it was the best match Moxley ever had in AEW, and it was still awful😂😂😂
i was thinking of wild thing by tone loc. Also what do you guys think of moxley's theme. It's kind of weird. But I can somewhat get behind it. What music would you give Jon and or aew wrestlers. let me know in the comments.
I know it'll never happen but what if Jim came out to the original Midnight Express music by Giorgio Moroder to cut a promo on AEW. I only say this since Jim and Brian talked about licensing music for wrestlers.
Even Nagata's WCW run was during his excursion. He has respect from the Hardcore Audience, but not so much the Casual Crowd. Suzuki, probably would have gotten over more with the Casuals, just because he's what the American Fans want to see: An Asskicker with a huge personality. And I will give Moxley the benefit of the doubt: treating Yuji like a Faberge Egg for that German is preferable to the Ricky Starks situation.
The match completely was garbage it was like watching two grown men acting and playing wrestling without any wrestling and also John moxley is a poor man's version of Stone Cold Steve Austin he's such a wannabe that he can't pull it off because he's not Stone Cold he needs to fight his own identity and stop playing off of others that already been there and done that
The knees that weren't even connecting... & this isn't the first time he's done it (Moxley)... just terrible. And the way Moxley wants to be perceived as opposed to how he actually LOOKS... NAH. I'M JUST NOT BUYING IT.
The thing is a lot of people did give a fuck about this match. Also, the reason Moxley is now coming to the ring with the IWGP US Title is because AEW and New Japan NOW have a bit of a working relationship.
2 thirds of the AEW fanbase werent even born the last time Yugi was on TNT.
And Cornette was only 60 back then
that explains a lot about what they accept...
Ur capping
Well, I was 15-16 then and 39 now.
Yeah but they all were watching new Japan for bullet club, so they know Nagata
I was shocked that we had a Moxley match that almost exclusively was fought in the ring
A sign of the apocalypse
Cornette is an absolute trip. He complains about modern wrestlers doing flips, but Yuji is one of the purest wrestlers on the planet and he still doesn't know who the guy is or care just because he's Japanese.
I agree with Jim, and I only tuned in to AEW that night to watch the Moxley - Nagata match. I'm an NJPW fan and it appealed to me, I don't know that it appealed to any AEW fans.
Point is they're not booking Moxley vs Christian, a former WWE star who people may know, but book Nagata who anyone flipping channels won't know and will see an elderly undersizedJapanese man wrestling
@@jovanss2361its cuz theyre dumb causuals eho dont study history
So basically cornette is a racist
Having the Great Muta come in and do almost nothing with Sting would have more impact realistically.
Watch. They'll do that. They'll bring another legend in to do absolutely fucking nothing and AEW stans will praise it.
@@al5306 To be fair, that would actually be worth something being Muta and all.
If Sting had joined AEW pre-covid, this would have happened but it’s very different since Muta is being busy as a champion in Japan.
I never seen my husband laugh so hard until he heard Wild Thing come on and even asked if Charlie Sheen was coming out.... I didn't get it at first hahahahahaha
Brilliant I actually thought that too 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Charlie would of gotten a huge pop
As a Baseball Fan and a Fan of Major League 1 and 2 this is one of my favorite Artworks.
Same
I instantly thought John Moxley is no Ricky “Wild Thing” Vaughn
Back to the Minors is the best Major League movie
I love Major League lol
@@SonOfMuta yes. Yes it is.
Nagata is more known worldwide than The Rock N Roll Express, Jim. Puts on better matches too.
Yes, I still remember you jumping up and down in the ring 2 years ago on NWA PowerRR when they won the titles at a combined age of 122. From that day on I couldn't take you serious anymore. Now I'm here to laugh at your out of touch "old guy yells at cloud" rants and the new "AeW iS pOoPoO cUz WwE RuLz" fanbase of 12-year-olds you've been attracting lately.
Good lord, you’re so sad and pathetic.
@@peterp2153 who shit in your cornflakes?
"Forget the curveball Ricky, give him the heater."
“That sucker was moving wasn’t it? If it hits ya it’ll leave a two foot hole coming out.”
This is the Out you've been waiting for.
Travis Heckel's thumbnails are the gifts that keep on giving.
the IWGP US Heavyweight Championship deserved a better placement on the card, and at least a strong build up
They should just give it to Zack Saber.
They just seem to be using it to promote the brand in the US which has been something they've been working on for the past 5 or so years. So in the grand scheme of things it's fitting.
Same goes for SCU breaking up. Everything seems rushed.
Yes a better placement on an IGWP card not AEW Dynamite. The title shouldn't even be defended in AEW since non of the US fans care about the title
It deserved more time.
I love how everyone knows the 80s baseball movie this was based off
Great movie
Too bad the second one got kinda hokey. Missed Snipes for sure.
If only the crowd would've had the same reaction when Vaughn walked out of the bullpen. That scene was intense!
The asian grounds crew were the best...”They’re shitty!”
Haha people know that movie because of Charlie sheen. After his craziness people learned everything about him
"He's a Japanese legend!" He's a WRESTLING legend, Jim.
So you liked the match?
Who?
@@slyfox2022 No, it was shit. That doesn't change who Nagata is, though.
sure then why does my gramps don't know about this nagatoe guy? and my gramps knew about the likes of Iron Shiek, Bruno Sammartino, Vader, or Andre the Giant.
Jim is just stating that he never made international fame, he's not going to be known by 99999 out of 100000 people in the US and Europe. He's a Japanese wrestling legend as he said.
Was anyone else hoping Chip Taylor's brother was going to be named "Chuck"?
Grand nephew
Good song but it does not fit moxley at all and I don't know why their giving moxley a new song he has already got a good theme
@@mulletman6298 Moxley's normal theme sounds like a generic bro metal instrumental that was rejected from the Five Finger Death Punch catalog. Lmao
I was thinking Rip Taylor lol
I would have laughed
For any casual fans who remembered Yuji Nagata...they remember him as an opening to mid card at best guy from WCW in the mid-late 90's. That's the reality none of these AEW fan girls want to admit.
Iwgp champ but ok
The reality you don't want to admit is that time goes on and talent evolves.
Nagata went on to become IWGP champion.
With your logic Drew would still be a curtainjerking jobber in 3MB.
Also: casual fans watch WWE, not AEW.
@@staalhard666 The reality you don't want to admit is that AEW not getting the attention of casual fans is why they'll never even come close to being real competition to the WWE. AEW have got a small, hardcore fanbase that'll watch anything they put on television but it's not going to grow because they keep wasting money to bring in people like Yuji Nagata that don't mean anything to casual fans and won't convince them to watch.
Who gives a toss if Nagata won the IWGP belt? Does anyone outside of Japan and a relative handful of people obsessed with wrestling know what that even is? I bet if you told someone on the street what IWGP stood for they'd ask you what wrestling has to do with racing. AEW would've gotten more mileage out of bringing in the Nasty Boys. They're in the same age group as Nagata, their work wouldn't have impressed anyone either but at least you'd have a very slight chance of casual wrestling fans recognising them and maybe tuning in after hearing they'd be on the show. Having Nagata on here was just AEW jerking off their hardcore fans that'll tune in every week anyway. It did nothing for the growth of this company.
@@alexcole4838 AEW has announced since the beginning that they're an alternative.
Casual fans watch WWE. And zap away if Cena or Undertaker isn't on. That's all there is to it really. AEW has 66% of the RAW crowd and 50% of the SD crowd after one year and a half of Dynamite. That's quite amazing since they're on cable and WWE on network. I will leave out the fact that WWE is a 40-year-old public established billionnaire corporation, otherwise i would just embarrass you further. By the way: the regular joe on the street doesn't know who Roman and Lashley are either. And when was the last time WWE experienced growth? They lose 500k viewers each year.
@@staalhard666 You think you're embarrassing me? XD
First of all, Cena and Undertaker haven't been a fixture of WWE for years so maybe do some better research mate. I could count on my fingers the number of times both guys have wrestled in the past 5 years. They barely appear on TV even when they do have a match booked. Despite that the WWE are still doing far better than a company that has two of the biggest names of the most popular period in the history of televised wrestling regularly appearing on it.
As far as the ratings of AEW, really not that impressive. TNA was able to do comparable ratings within their first year on TV when their biggest star was Jeff Jarrett. They didn't have anywhere near the budget that AEW has or the starpower and they didn't have the benefit of a worldwide epidemic crippling most other forms of entertainment that could divert attention from their show. The fact that AEW with all its advantages is comparable to early TNA TV ratings just goes to show that they're a joke. On top of that, while WWE might only have twice the TV ratings of AEW on their highest rated show they also have people watching each show through their streaming services. AEW won't ever reach their numbers. You claiming that AEW are trying to be an "alternative" to WWE doesn't hold water either. Their owner and their stars are taking every opportunity to act as if they've just struck a fatal blow to the WWE every time they manage to beat their televised developmental show full of nobodies. They claim it's a Wednesday Night War so AEW are clearly trying to position themselves as competition to the WWE.
Btw, I've heard people talking about Lashley on and off since 2007. Even when he wasn't on TV people were interested in him. Same with Roman, especially after his bout with cancer. The top WWE stars might not be as big among the general public as Hogan or Austin and their peers but people know them. If you asked them what they thought of MJF they'd probably assume it was some sort of skin rash cream. They'd only remember Cody Rhodes as one of the guys that used to job out to HHH and Orton a decade ago. The only people the casual public knows of from AEW is Chris Jericho who's done nothing but cause embarrassment for the promotion and Sting. Let me tell you, the only thing you ever hear being said about them is how ridiculous it is they're still wrestling.
The WWE isn't a 40 year old established corporation. The WWE has in some form been around and been successful for longer than your grandparents will likely have been alive. Despite that, plenty of promotions were able to pop up as legitimate challengers over the years. Hell, WCW was only founded in 1988 so the biggest challenge the WWE ever faced on TV and that nearly put them out of business only existed for 12 years total. Trying to claim the WWE has some sort of advantage because of age is bull and you know it. The billionaire bit is irrelevant and just shows your ignorance since the Khans could buy and sell the WWE multiple times over if they wanted.
As for your last couple of sentences, the WWE doesn't need to grow. They should want to regardless but they don't need to. They're the leader in regards to pro wrestling. Their so-called competition needs to grow to match them and AEW is not doing that and it never will. Filling your responses with so many silly, see-through little attempts to try and excuse AEW for its failure to compete with the WWE doesn't change that.
They should get Marko stunt to come out the Punky Brewster TV theme music🤔🤣🤣🤣😳👍
Marko looks like he's cosplaying as Punky Brewster
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with Jim's assessment.
The thing that Jim is overlooking is the fact that the AEW audience is, by and large, a circle-jerk of Internet Wrestling fans. At its worst, the IWC is a group of slimy jackasses that would make QAnon seem reasonable, by direct comparison. But, at its best, (Which, THANKFULLY, is over half of them) they're passionate wrestling fans, who are making use of technological advances that the old school tape traders would have given their left eye to have, to watch wrestling that doesn't have enough eyes on it.
Case in point: To what extent would American fans have heard of great talents like Zack Saber Jr, Walter, or Rampage Brown, if not for the IWC engaging in a worldwide scale word-of-mouth campaign, to get people to check their shit out?
My point is that if ANY group of wrestling fans had heard of Yuji Nagata, and become familiar enough with his work, to grasp who he is, and to understand why he matters, it's AEW fans. (Okay. NXT fans, as well.)
Well said. I became a fan of Walter after people started talking about him in Brock Lesnar videos. I began searching up matches, and sure enough I found some matches with Walter versus some of my personal favorite indie stars (though, Cornette would probably call them "vanilla midgets").
In any case, I was one of the devoted (maybe blindly so) fans who then began watching NXT UK simply because they had nabbed Walter. It was also the IWC that turned me on to the Bullet Club, which led me to becoming a fan of Shinsuke Nakamura, The Golden Lovers, and one of the most badass pro-wrestlers ever... Katsuyori Shibata.
Same thing with guys like Samoa Joe, Prince Devitt, and Lo-Ki (though to be fair, I was a fan of Lo-Ki ever since I saw him in ECW, but I lost track of him after his short WWE run. The IWC were keen to keep track of his whereabouts in the indie scene, thankfully). It was also thanks to the IWC that I encountered a lot of classic matches and crossovers from the 1980s, as well as being introduced to guys like Zack Zaber Jr, Punishment Martinez and Jonathan "The Octopus" Gresham.
I think AEW is right to (re)introduce guys like Nagata to their audience, but I think they need to do a FAR better job packaging the promotion of their content (i.e., the wrestlers) for people that regular or nascent fans aren't very informed about.
Man... we were deprived of great wrestling stars since 99/2000, thus the indy wrestling era blew up while the only show in town had relinquished to only hiring the ovw top talent and wcw and ecw guys. Nothing against them, all great talent/mostly great. But most of these guys are far past their prime until aew showed up. Idc, love wrestling. Impact has good stuff, nxt has good stuff with ppl who deserve it, aew has good stuff with ppl who deserve it. Covid killed aew, i hope they can bounce back
Moxley vs Nagata is about as close to a WRESTLING match as Moxley has had in AEW.
No bullshit high spots. No weapons. No 47 false finishes. Hit him with the Paradigm Shift and its over.
Thanks for at least somewhat trying to have a wrestling match, Mox.
As a teenager watching WCW, Yugi was put over huge by Mike Tenay but really, no one cared.
WWE brings in a 50yo wrestler and fans lose their minds “he’s taking a spot from a younger talent”. AEW bring in a 50yo Japanese wrestler & it’s the greatest thing ever
You’re actually stupid enough to believe they’re the same thing?
Goldberg beat Owens for the Universal Title.
Nagata was brought in on Moxley's request and the latter went over.
False equivalence.
@@qorpse Not really though.
Jon Moxley/ Dean Ambrose is the IWGP US Heavyweight Champion. Since NJPW merged the IC Championship with the IWGP World Heavyweight Championship, that means the US Championship is the ranking mid card belt in NJPW.
Moxley defends that title way less often than he should. In the instance that he does defend that belt, doesn't NJPW have an obligation to ensure that one of their rising future stars competes for and/or wins that belt on their way up the card.
Yuji Nagata competing for the US title is the equivalent of Hacksaw Jim Duggan competing for the WWE IC title in the mid 2000's. That spot should have been given to a young, up and coming NJPW star like Sho and Yoh or Ren Narita and they should have gone over Moxley. At least then, the title could be defended on a consistent basis in NJPW.
@@RoreyG Another bad comparison. This is nothing like Hacksaw in 2000 - Yuji is still in shape, still regularly competes and is a multiple time former IWGP world champ. He's booked as past his prime and thus not in the running for the top title, but certainly worthy of a shot at still only debatably the secondary title there as they also have the Openweight title that's been kinda tied with the US title as the tertiary title in New Japan. And he didn't win that anyway.
As a once hardcore WWF fan and as someone who enjoys more than one company, I am very aware of Yuji, and as a fan of interpromotional angles, I loved watching a show including a title match that wasn't even for one of that company's titles. That's exciting shit for me and I'm sure I'm not alone in that regard. I don't know if I'd say it was a great match, but a fun little opener for sure.
I love Cornette and used to listen to his shows regularly, but he really has become so bitter and negative that all he does is rip on literally every company that gets mentioned and he's become much worse for the pro wrestling business than any of the bad booking he complains about elsewhere. And his dickriders in the comments just perpetuate it.
I popped immediately when I saw the thumbnail. When Moxley came out to that song I said "Is he wrestling or pitching in the California Penal League?"
😂
I only got thing to say you to Vaughn.
@@foleynj86 forget abut the curveball, give him he heater
"Wild Thing" was a tribute to Atsushi Onita. A Japanese Deathmatch performer that has a great influenced on Moxley. Unsurprising.
AEW core fanbase are hardcore fans of the 90-00s onward. Their prime demographic is 18-49 year olds and skews toward the younger end of that quadrant. It makes perfect sense and is inline with almost every discussion outlet that those fans of AEW would know about NJPW.
Again, refer back to C2E2 two years ago, when the EVPs said they want to serve their hardcore audience first. Which it seems they have from viewership #s.
Doubt Mox vs. Nagata was intended to appeal to Joe Schmo who is really only familiar with WWE. That's not who AEW are principally interested in catering toward with this style of match.
“For the average fan in America watching they’re like why tf is Jon Moxley wrestling someone’s Japanese grandfather” 🤣🤣🤣
mox asked for wild thing as a homage to onita who used it as an entrance theme in fmw
Again though, how many normal people would know that in America? I'm a big fan of Japanese wrestling, and even I didn't make the Onita connection to Wild Thing when I watched the match. Just seems a little self indulgent to me to be honest.
Excalibur should've told us I thought he was a wrestling nerd who knew everything lol
@@happyd9733 does it matter though ?
@@lautheimpaler4686 Do you matter? Does anything matter? Does wrestling matter? What a pointless comment lol
@@nh7680 yeah, agreed. But even then, how is Onita relevant to this match? Just because Nagata is Japanese? Actually can't remember who Onita wrestled against in NJPW aside from Muta. Maybe it was Nagata. Again, you're right because the commentators should've reminded those of us who care, and explained to everyone who knows nothing about Japanese wrestling
"Want me to drag him out of here, kick the shit out of him?" - Rick "Wild Thing" Vaughn
Do They got chilli dogs over there? 😂
@@TheRealSWEARone I look like a banker in this.
Nagata looked good and worked well for his age
I agree. Those forearm shots him and Mox delivered were pretty feeble though. I think the match would have been better if it had gone a little longer too being as 10 minutes seems a bit short (Mox's new entrance theme is a terrible fit for him too).
@@tempestfennac9687 if they don't change that theme back I'm gonna be pissed, also I got a question when did this forearm crap become a thing what happened to punches
@@mulletman6298 I'm really not sure. I kind of stopped watching WWE stuff years ago, watched a few episodes of the World of Sport revival and started watching Dynamite when that started but I've never been into indie or foreign wrestling so I can't remember them being a thing before AEW started.
@@mulletman6298 it's just the Japanese strong style. If you wanna see forearms done perfectly I'd say look up Mitsuharu Misawa
@@bigfloridapimp well I'm sure it can look good as long as it's not overdone but it just looks so dumb why would you use an forearm instead of a fist in a fight.
Can’t wait to hear Jim give his thoughts on the passing of New Jack
It's going to be emotional. Looking back on their sit down interview from a years back. Great watch. Rip New Jack
Well they did make up.
Me too! Also I'm waiting on Sheiky Baby thoughts!!
Didn't seem like a very good guy to me-
@@planexshifter I understand that point of view but he had side to him that was genuine as well and that made you connect with him. His cameos too in the last year were hilarious. Despite his mishaps and take no prisoners attitude it's still sad to see him go
Nagata botched the finish. He made that DDT look like a regular under hook suplex. Like most AEW matches, they kick out of all kinds of crazy moves that could.be finishes, only to have the actual finish look weak af. They are wrestlings version of blue balls
I tend to agree its kinda like ecw with the anti climactic finishes
@@standardofexcellence the young bucks superkicks being the prime example, one used to end a match. Either the people the kick are the toughest in the world or their kicks are like childrens..
@@Run187 How is a superkick a finisher? Because HBK says so?
Should every DDT be a finisher too because of Jake Roberts?
This artwork will get a lot of love
Yessir , Charlie cornette
Nah nah nah, it's Wild Thing Corn Vaughn. Swore to God he didn't know it was Roger Dorn's wife that he shtupt lol
"Who cares about Nagata" Cornette appeals to smart fans yet acts like that's not who watches AEW. Lots of people knew who he was. 2nd, Him using wild thing was a homage to Onita, not a movie
Longtime wrestling fn here and I've never heard of Yuji Naginata
@@6ANUR34DT81S same here. No idea who he is.
I know Nagata from WCW/nWo Revenge for N64 and a few matches on Nitro back in the day, but that's it. I still don't care about him.
Corny doesn't appeal to smart fans, he appeals to old school fans. American old school fans know nothing about Japanese wrestling other than the Great Muta
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE DUMB THEN???
"What is he, some kind of prevert?" Nice Dr. Strangelove reference.
Loads of peoeple say prevert instead of pervert, without any connection or reference to Dr. Strangelove. It's a very common thing.
"What a Class-A prevert." - Rocket Raccoon
Honestly I like prevert better. The internet is full of preversions. Okay it doesn't always work
Suzuki definitely works still better and hes same age as Nagata.
What Jim doesn't realize is that WE ALL HAVE SMART PHONES, we can find out who he is and who made the song an all the info in 30secs. We can get HYPE by the time the entrances are over, he's really dumbing down the audience watching.
U are factually correct, but if that context isn’t there, you ain’t getting it
@@ricolewis2949 See NJPW kept John as champ for this very reason, they wanted to do these kind of matches with him before covid stalled things. Had this been before social media it wouldn't have gone over as it did.
Brian: loves the cheap pops
Also Brian: berates the cheap pops
This is why we can't have nice things - if I wanted to listen to "hit records" I'd listen to the music in my phone, as I've an extensive music collection.
Depends on the situation. Everything has nuance.
RIP New Jack.
He’s a legend to true wrestling fans too
But are true wrestling fans the key demographic?
@@TheLibermania bingo
The WWF had Dick Murdoch and Mil Mascaras in the Royal Rumble one year and I doubt most fans at the time knew them. Certainly not Kevin Dunn who didn't even know the name Terry Funk.
You've got to understand what he's in NJPW right now. A trainer, sometimes he is against the modern stars and he's always set to lose. It's a shame, he should have kept to the small stuff in Japan or U.S. L.A. dojo.
@@TheLibermania Sometimes you have to educate the fans so they appreciate more. Don't expect people to be aware of everything and no need for you to educate them little to get them invested.
Sonny Kiss is going to come out to the thong song next
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh Christ. They cant afford to run off anymore of the audience. I hope even they know better than that. LOL
"They had Onita in the package for the barbwire match. He didn't say much and got away quick not get anything on him" - Jim Cornette
When the crowd starting to chant "this is awesome" I turned it off.
Someone needs to start a counter to that chant in the crowd
"this is awesome!"
"Not its not!"
WCW vs NWO Revenge N64, Yugi Nagata
Was he in there? My favorite wrestling game as a kid
The 1200 people (sell out) at the St Pete show when New Japan came over in January of 2020, we all knew who Yuji Nagata was.
Jim is out of touch on this one.
Parkman: I bet you don't have enough hair on your ass to throw me another.
Rick Vaughn: Well, here it comes, Parkman. The ol'number1, the Terminator.
You get a piece, you can rename it.
Wait, the actually used Wild Thing? I saw a clip of that and thought someone edited it in.
It’s a tribute to Onita the father of Deathmatch wrestling
All 50 people who get it are impressed.
Congrats?
@King Slayer Yeah frankly if he is gonna be the hardcore guy he needs to come out to death metal or smth.
They actually used the original 1960s version , I just realized. Lol how sad.
The sad thing is they said Nagata is 51 or 52 and he plans on wrestling until he's 70??? I can't imagine he's got another 20 years in him.
it'll be the first ever wheelchair match where the opponents are in a no dq match except they have to stay in the wheelchairs and the way you win is to knock your opponent out of the wheelchair
It's a little different in Japanese Wrestling. Their fans are conditioned to revere the old guys which is why its not uncommon for guys to have 40 plus year careers and be treated like big deals and main eventers all the way up to the end. Great Muta, Minoru Suzuki, Jushin Liger, Mitsuharu Masawa, Fujiwara etc
It was the band X not Joan Jett who sang Wild Thing in the film.
I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for Jim to discover NJPW World, but fingers are still crossed that he will eventually figure out USPS Click N Ship. 😆
The Charlie Sheen baseball movie lmaoo
Ummm, its the story of Ric Vaughn. Who the fuck is Charlie Sheen? ;)
@@hrbie84 THANK YOU
@@darrengordon-hill "I don't know, he's not wearing a name tag. Want me to drag him outside and beat the shit outta him?" Damn I love that movie.
@@hrbie84 "I want to put together a team that'll help us relocate to Miami... None of them are furniture removers"
🤣🤣🍻🍻
@@darrengordon-hill "this guy is dead"
Then cross him off the list
Wild Thing gets off the bus. "Look at this fuckin guy" 😂
Bahaha had to go listen to "Take The A Train" by Duke Ellington, that would be an epic intro for anybody who could get it over 🤣🤣
Duke Ellington reference, nice!
My favorite Japanese wrestler is Maria Ozawa
They are doing it to impress one guy, he lives in Northern California and his initials are uncle Dave.
I know Yugi Nagata from the Fire Pro Wrestling World video game's story mode
Loved that game. I remember finding a local game store that would import Japanese PS1 games.
You bought fire pro, but didn’t know who Nagata was before hand?
@@magiccarpetride1345 that was Fire Pro G. Good game. I had Toukon Retsuden 3 because of it's detailed (for the time) CAWs
I had heard the name a few times
It was the band X not Joan Jett singing Wild Thing in Major League.
My personal viewpoint related to Cornette's either Mox should drop the IWGP United States Title to someone on the New Japan roster like Tanahashi or just do the part time thing like Jericho did and just never hold a New Japan Title.
" I didn't carry the 2. "
- James E. Cornette
Wild Thing in Major League was performed by an LA band called X. I don't think Joan Jett ever covered that song. They should have used Sam Kinnison's version instead.
The Runaways did a version. Joan was in that band.
Yeah Runaways did but it wasn't even the version they kept hyping since they kept mentioning the film and Onita both used the X Cover. But it's whatever Last is sometimes an enabler when it comes to Corny being flat out wrong. I know jim doesn't use a smart phone but there's no reason Brian can't
Love the “Major League” thumbnail. One of my favorite movies of all time!
Sorry Jim but Yuji is a 'Wrestling Legend' not just of Japanese wrestling. For somebody who respects old school wrestling, should be giving him more props than what your doing.
I don't disagree with Jim often but this time im a bit conflicted.
Its like when WWE introduced Chainsaw Charlie because nobody would know who Terry Funk was. Jim said wrestling fans are very loyal and very remembering.
I know you can't compare Terry Funk and Yuji Nagata but still. Ofcourse none of the "younger" fans will remember him but veterans like me sure remember him.
I can see Cornette's point though as the avarage AEW viewer is 12 years old and doesn't have a clue who Yuji is.
Wrestling fans know who Yuju Nagata is, especially when he's been on Impact Wrestling, ROH, MLW, and AEW. The only people who don't know who Yuju Nagata is are WWE sports entertainment fans. If you're a WWE bootlicker your not a wrestling fan. Wrestling fans might like WWE but the don't live in a WWE bubble where they don't know someone like Yuju Nagata who has been a constant presence in the annual PWI 500 every single year since it's inception.
I know nagata from wcw revenge for n64 when he randomly ran out in a battle royal
Yuji has the best forearms in the business. I hated how his looked so good yet Moxley’s looked so obviously light
Onita had balsy charisma. Mox is a poser.
I wonder how Jim would have felt if this was Minoru Suzuki instead of Nagata:)
I forgot about Nagata until his match wuth Kurt Angle on Global Impact, I didnt know big of a deal he was in wrestling up until that point and after that match I became a big fan and binge watched whatever i could find of him on youtube in 2008 so I was kind of excited for the match
Old school wrestling that Jim was involved in looks equally as phony and cheesy. Pot bellied dudes with hardly an athletic bone in their body, tap dancing around the ring with shitty footwork and timing. I don't know how Jim lives in such cognitive dissonance.
I didn’t hear anyone complaining when ECW used Steppenwolf’s Born to Be Wild for Cactus Jack in the 90’s
that was Jack's FMW and IWA theme song. before his ECW run.
That was when the music didn't get licenced, which is why it's all dubbed over on the commercial video releases and the Network. Stuff like "Enter Sandman", "Natural Born Killaz", "Come Out And Play" and "Man In The Box" were a few years old by that point, admittedly not like 20+ years old like "Born to be Wild" but still. Balls Mahoney had "Big Balls" by AC/DC which was from 1980. Didn't the FBI use "Stayin' Alive" as well?
copyright was different in the 90's. you could get away with that kind of thing without a license. i guarantee they didn't pay for born to be wild for cactus jack.
I'm sure if the internet was more prevalent in the early 90s, they would.
My point was...Born to be Wild was an OLD song...but nobody cared because it was still cool
I've heard about this man from fighting two mma legends in mma.
Yeah 00s Inkoism at it's finest/worst. He had no business fighting the top two ranked HW MMA fighters.
*YAWWWWWWN Moxley*
How about the Tone Loc version?
*Wild Thang
Say Whattttt !!!?
@@adriancarlos9155 Yeah, look it up... but it isn't a cover of the Troggs song, it is its own thing.
No. There's nothing Tone Loc about
Diet Stone Cold
Jon Voight the Dentist? - Seinfeld reference.
Jim Cornette, you make my heart sing.
I remembered him. Was also watching Nitro back in the day as well.
Well, I guess we’ll get a 5 star defense against Scott Norton then.
I thought it was ok. *dodges tomatoes *
I used to like Nagata, his reverse figure four move was pretty sweet. The Nagata Lock.
"USED TO" ???
@@IMMORTALEM1 I meant when I watched him back in the day. I just phrased it weird.
@@danpats1 ok. I'm glad you corrected yourself. Lol
I really dont hate the idea of Moxley coming out to classic rock, i just feel Wild Thing is a bad fit. Imagine if he kicked that door open and marched out to Paint it Black or Fortunate Son.
The Troggs are always an infinitely better choice than Joan Jett.
I love Corny as Rick Vaughn
I know Jim wasn't going to watch the latest darkside of the ring episode (GAGE) but gawd dam if he only just watched the first 5 minutes we would get a great pissed off/disgusted promo. That outlaw mud show so called "wrestling" was worse then i could imagine. Moxley's appearance - he acted like GAGE was Stone Cold
*Gage
I've watched every episode of Dark Side so far, but this one I turned off after about 10 minutes. I just didn't care about this guy at all. And I'm someone who used to watch Japanese deathmatch wrestling back in the late 90s-early 2000s and even attended a show in Japan a couple years ago.
I’m not a fan of gravest all, so it was good seeing an episode were i know nothing at all going in. It turned out to be a pretty good episode
@@fort4men Thanks
Jim Cornette as Rick Vaughn is great
it should've been Suzuki tbh
Like Nagata or not, he could move better than the Rock N Roll Express for the last 20 yrs.
Moxleys character absolutely sucks
I think that the lockdowns have atrophied Nagata's body. Before Covid he could still move well enough, but he's way over the hill now. It's a shame. That wasn't a typical NJPW singles match, and was a poor advert for their in ring product. I think it's time for Nagata to retire
I think it’s better to judge him when wrestling in his own environment. He could’ve been having a bad night or maybe being in aew he felt like he would be best to wrestle a little lighter. I don’t know. A few months ago he was still having good matches so I wouldn’t really say it’s time for him to retire just yet, plus his abilities are perfectly fine for his role in njpw.
Personally I thought the match was pretty good, nothing ppv worthy but good.
@@zakrowe1301 It wasn't just Nagata. Moxley worked so light with him. I've never seen an NJPW match with such lame forearms. Not a title match at least. Very possible that Nagata is injured. I am just catching up with NJPW from last year and I haven't seen any Nagata matches in a while. Just finished with 2020. A lot of the time I skip the multiman matches, so that's why I see little of Nagata. Like in the g1, I never watch multiman matches, althiugh there weren't any last g1
The match wasn’t a major event. But the match felt really good. It was great. It was face vs. face. It was about respect. If good old Corney can’t accept respect then I’m truly at a loss. And maybe I should just give up...
This match got praises from others and in my opinion and as a wrestling fan , I thought the match was fun and enjoyable .
Comments filled with marks these days
Do you even know what good wrestling is Cornette???
Moxley coming out to Wild Thing is hilarious. Most likely not the reaction they were going for lmao.
There were no dives, Moxley didn't do any garbage hardcore bs, it didn't go 150mph because Nagata is so old, it didn't last 20+ minutes and the ddt was the finish instead of 15 false finishes, pound for pound I'd say it was the best match Moxley ever had in AEW, and it was still awful😂😂😂
Nagata can still go but he really didn't do any of his usual shit
i was thinking of wild thing by tone loc. Also what do you guys think of moxley's theme. It's kind of weird. But I can somewhat get behind it. What music would you give Jon and or aew wrestlers. let me know in the comments.
Jim loves BBC by the Kenny Omega should be his theme
@@fatalsniper3413 i take it we are not talking about the British network?
Moxleys music should be "LAME THING!! You make my head ache. You make everything... crappy. LAME THING!"
Mr Cornette I am fully aware of Nagata Yugi one of the greatest of all time. Blue Justice!
i like how jobbers in the 90s could at least throw punches in their squash matches and wrestlers in 2021 are clueless
The minute a jobber got any offense would result in a shoot fight, and I don't think ham 'n eggers have enough money to afford the injuries.
The flute solo really nails Moxley's AEW run.
I remember Yuji Nagata from WCW/NWO Revenge lol
Hell yea!!!!
I think Jim is greatly underestimating the percentage of wrestling fans that know who Nagata is.
I know it'll never happen but what if Jim came out to the original Midnight Express music by Giorgio Moroder to cut a promo on AEW. I only say this since Jim and Brian talked about licensing music for wrestlers.
Only if he entered doing the Shane O mac dance from back in the day
Even Nagata's WCW run was during his excursion. He has respect from the Hardcore Audience, but not so much the Casual Crowd. Suzuki, probably would have gotten over more with the Casuals, just because he's what the American Fans want to see: An Asskicker with a huge personality.
And I will give Moxley the benefit of the doubt: treating Yuji like a Faberge Egg for that German is preferable to the Ricky Starks situation.
“Shit, I’ve been cut already “
The match completely was garbage it was like watching two grown men acting and playing wrestling without any wrestling and also John moxley is a poor man's version of Stone Cold Steve Austin he's such a wannabe that he can't pull it off because he's not Stone Cold he needs to fight his own identity and stop playing off of others that already been there and done that
The knees that weren't even connecting... & this isn't the first time he's done it (Moxley)... just terrible. And the way Moxley wants to be perceived as opposed to how he actually LOOKS... NAH. I'M JUST NOT BUYING IT.
@@steviemacc2745 I tried watching and as soon as I saw the shitty no sold elbows I left. it makes me really believe wrestling is dead
This match had the slowest forearms I've ever seen
The thing is a lot of people did give a fuck about this match. Also, the reason Moxley is now coming to the ring with the IWGP US Title is because AEW and New Japan NOW have a bit of a working relationship.