It’s a really lovely looking watch, however I’d feel way more comfortable spending that type of money on a G Shock, for example. I say that as an owner of other Swatch watches too! Well done for finding more info out for potential customers 👍 Awesome to know you’re based in the same city I live in too!
If it can be serviced or even have the movement replaced, it will come down to cost at the end of the day. Like watches such as the older Seiko 5s, repairing or swapping out the movement could be close to the initial cost of the watch (or more) and will be dependent on how much you are invested in the watch. Swatch group really need to raise their game about aftercare instead of relying on people having to turn into private investigators to find info.
Okay it's great it "servicable", the only problem for me is that you have to take it to the service centre IN Switzerland!? Damn, imagine send it to Swiss and waiting for months and they say there's nothing wrong😢
Great work getting some answers on this one. Just realised I wan't subbed, so fixed that one up right away! Love your reviews, they are always really well done and I really appreciate that you weigh your watches btw. It's a small detail but an important one that so many reviewers miss 👍
Shame you didn't get to see one! Sadly, I doubt many will be worn enough to warrant a replacement movement if it fails. To be honest, I wouldn't buy such an expensive plastic watch, but the use of plastic parts and the inability to easily regulate their movements put me off the Swatch group mechanical watches under £1000 anyway.
I used to be a hater on the plastic parts too until I learned more about it and realised how much engineering goes in to making plastic parts at tight enough tolerances for timekeeping. Even the plastic itself is a special self lubricating type, so without a service the plastic parts will potentially have better performance than the metal parts. Plastics used to be the space age, they used to be a wonder material before they became ubiquitous, and the use of plastics by Tissot in the 70s was a major technological feat at the time, and paved the way for Swatch to become the behemoth it is today.
Really??? Swatch is going to repair a plastic welded Sistem51 movement…yeah, right…and if they “have to” swap the movement out the old one is ‘recycled’ 🤔, oh and a flock of pigs is just landing at Zurich airport. The reality is that if your Swatchpain breaks during warranty they’ll end up just giving you a new watch, because it’s the cheapest option for Swatch Group (you’ll likely have to wait quite a bit though). Outside the warranty period you have to ask for a repair quote do you? So, by the time you’ve sent your plastic watch all the way back to Switzerland the cost of ‘servicing’ would very likely be more than the SRP of a new watch…
I’m, like, how can it be opened? I assume through the front by removing the bezel and crystal. I guess? Regardless, we are in a time where everyone is being asked to be less and less wasteful and less polluting. I can’t in good conscience buy a watch that will in all probability end up in the garbage, where it will probably take decades if not centuries for the watch to completely decompose. What Swatch produces therefore is distasteful.
Seems a sort of screw on caseback to me. If you look closely on the differtent pictures, the notches on the caseback are a couple of degrees of between pictures (Check the notches in relative to the crown). On my Oceans of Storm, you can see a verry little gap between a possible caseback and the case itself. Clearly visible with a loupe.
I have an irony system 51 watch and swatch says they can repair it but they quoted 200 euro to replace the movement andcthdcwatch cost 220 euro so well no bargain I had to discard the watch
With a regular mechanical watch you can send it to your local watchmaker for repair (or movement replacement) once the warranty period expires. Having to ship the watch to Switzerland just to get a quote sounds costly.
Why would you need lumed hands if the dial is lumed? Surely unlumed would shownup nicely by blocking dial lume...the same way the numbers do for higher contrast ultra legibility. Design fail
It cannot be opened (it should not be opened), because Swatch wants it that way, it is a characteristic of its design. This is intentional..., this way they can lower costs, generating greater profit. Swatch offers you a watch with Swiss certification and quality, at an affordable price, but...if there is a fault, the repair prices will make you throw the watch in the trash. At the end of the day, you lose.
Pas de prix ou estimation de prix pour la réparation signifie non réparable. J'ai l'information, la réparation coutera au minimum 1500 euros. À vous de voir.🤓
SISTEM51 movement can´t be serviced... it is just placed by robots inside the case. It is impossible to open; and if you try, you´ll end up destroying this toy watch.
It can be swapped out for $200. I had mine fixed. Considering the costs of a standard repair the cost is not bad. My Tudor watch cost alot more to replace a spring.
Incorrect. This watch can be opened and the movement swapped out. Not the same as a service on a normal watch, but nowhere near as wasteful as having to dispose of the entire watch should there be a timekeeping fault.
buying a watch that can't be serviced, but rather can be sent back to the Swiss service center to have the entire movement replaced at probably $500 to $800...ONCE, with no guarantee your watch will have any sort of longevity or ability to be serviced over the years like any other watch, is A NO BRAiNER DO NOT BUY. one can spend $100 on a disposable watch, but $400 only if you have money to dispose of. and even more money to burn if you want to have it serviced ONCE maybe, by replacing an entire movement. what a joke this creation is.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATE! Now I can pull the trigger on the blancpain !
It’s a really lovely looking watch, however I’d feel way more comfortable spending that type of money on a G Shock, for example. I say that as an owner of other Swatch watches too! Well done for finding more info out for potential customers 👍 Awesome to know you’re based in the same city I live in too!
If it can be serviced or even have the movement replaced, it will come down to cost at the end of the day. Like watches such as the older Seiko 5s, repairing or swapping out the movement could be close to the initial cost of the watch (or more) and will be dependent on how much you are invested in the watch. Swatch group really need to raise their game about aftercare instead of relying on people having to turn into private investigators to find info.
Okay it's great it "servicable", the only problem for me is that you have to take it to the service centre IN Switzerland!? Damn, imagine send it to Swiss and waiting for months and they say there's nothing wrong😢
Oh, man! I really want the Arctic Ocean one but they don't sell it online, and I'm nowhere near a store. Not by a million miles. :-(
I like the black version, although any repair price above $100 for a $400 watch will be useless. I'll stick to my Addiesdive AD2101
I used to collect swatches. They pump out so many models that they are designed to be disposable, not serviceable
Great work getting some answers on this one.
Just realised I wan't subbed, so fixed that one up right away! Love your reviews, they are always really well done and I really appreciate that you weigh your watches btw. It's a small detail but an important one that so many reviewers miss 👍
You live in London? I’ve been trying to place your accent for a while! 😊
Yes, I do live in London 🙂👍
@@ShinyThings Sounds bit eastern-european? Russia? Ukraine? Georgia? Belarus?
Shame you didn't get to see one! Sadly, I doubt many will be worn enough to warrant a replacement movement if it fails. To be honest, I wouldn't buy such an expensive plastic watch, but the use of plastic parts and the inability to easily regulate their movements put me off the Swatch group mechanical watches under £1000 anyway.
I used to be a hater on the plastic parts too until I learned more about it and realised how much engineering goes in to making plastic parts at tight enough tolerances for timekeeping. Even the plastic itself is a special self lubricating type, so without a service the plastic parts will potentially have better performance than the metal parts.
Plastics used to be the space age, they used to be a wonder material before they became ubiquitous, and the use of plastics by Tissot in the 70s was a major technological feat at the time, and paved the way for Swatch to become the behemoth it is today.
Really??? Swatch is going to repair a plastic welded Sistem51 movement…yeah, right…and if they “have to” swap the movement out the old one is ‘recycled’ 🤔, oh and a flock of pigs is just landing at Zurich airport. The reality is that if your Swatchpain breaks during warranty they’ll end up just giving you a new watch, because it’s the cheapest option for Swatch Group (you’ll likely have to wait quite a bit though). Outside the warranty period you have to ask for a repair quote do you? So, by the time you’ve sent your plastic watch all the way back to Switzerland the cost of ‘servicing’ would very likely be more than the SRP of a new watch…
I’m, like, how can it be opened? I assume through the front by removing the bezel and crystal. I guess? Regardless, we are in a time where everyone is being asked to be less and less wasteful and less polluting. I can’t in good conscience buy a watch that will in all probability end up in the garbage, where it will probably take decades if not centuries for the watch to completely decompose. What Swatch produces therefore is distasteful.
Thank you for sharing!
If they put a standard powermatic 80 or older eta movement inside, I think they'd double sales.
@@UA-cam_is_full_of_trolls Rumor has it that swatch group don't service the powermatic 80 either. Just toss and replace
Seems a sort of screw on caseback to me. If you look closely on the differtent pictures, the notches on the caseback are a couple of degrees of between pictures (Check the notches in relative to the crown). On my Oceans of Storm, you can see a verry little gap between a possible caseback and the case itself. Clearly visible with a loupe.
Another great review thanks.
Thanks for watching! 🙂👍
I have an irony system 51 watch and swatch says they can repair it but they quoted 200 euro to replace the movement andcthdcwatch cost 220 euro so well no bargain I had to discard the watch
@bmwtripleblack5331 Agree, not very cost effective. How long did it last before needing a repair?
Hey bro Please Give Your Views On The Swiss Watch Brand - Frederique Constant SA . I am planning to buy Their World-Timer Watch .
It's owned by Citizen Watch Company now.
Super useful update! Thanks😊 I was going to pop over to the city to pick up the ⚫️ .. no hope then for the near future
Thanks Wes! ❤️😊👍
Cost of service or repair will be more than the cost of the watch for sure.
haha!I got the swatch ocean of storm !
Good news! 😊
With a regular mechanical watch you can send it to your local watchmaker for repair (or movement replacement) once the warranty period expires. Having to ship the watch to Switzerland just to get a quote sounds costly.
A two year warranty is too short . I guess the company isn't too confident in the watch's long-term durability.
Why would you need lumed hands if the dial is lumed? Surely unlumed would shownup nicely by blocking dial lume...the same way the numbers do for higher contrast ultra legibility.
Design fail
It cannot be opened (it should not be opened), because Swatch wants it that way, it is a characteristic of its design. This is intentional..., this way they can lower costs, generating greater profit.
Swatch offers you a watch with Swiss certification and quality, at an affordable price, but...if there is a fault, the repair prices will make you throw the watch in the trash.
At the end of the day, you lose.
Pas de prix ou estimation de prix pour la réparation signifie non réparable. J'ai l'information, la réparation coutera au minimum 1500 euros. À vous de voir.🤓
Out of warranty repair=priced so high you might as well buy a new one.
Guangzhou watch makers come up a solution please!
Hahahaha actually Hong Kong
SISTEM51 movement can´t be serviced... it is just placed by robots inside the case. It is impossible to open; and if you try, you´ll end up destroying this toy watch.
Guess you can't service a Rolex either because they're built by robots too :^)
Not true, an independent has been able to successfully service this movement.
It can be swapped out for $200. I had mine fixed. Considering the costs of a standard repair the cost is not bad. My Tudor watch cost alot more to replace a spring.
Incorrect. This watch can be opened and the movement swapped out. Not the same as a service on a normal watch, but nowhere near as wasteful as having to dispose of the entire watch should there be a timekeeping fault.
It can be replaced and recycled. It's not a throwaway watch.
buying a watch that can't be serviced, but rather can be sent back to the Swiss service center to have the entire movement replaced at probably $500 to $800...ONCE, with no guarantee your watch will have any sort of longevity or ability to be serviced over the years like any other watch, is A NO BRAiNER DO NOT BUY. one can spend $100 on a disposable watch, but $400 only if you have money to dispose of. and even more money to burn if you want to have it serviced ONCE maybe, by replacing an entire movement. what a joke this creation is.
Junk