Have Wrexham AFC Made a HUGE MISTAKE Which Has ANGERED Fans…

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  • @LiamRobertsWxm
    @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +26

    Just thought I’d clear something up, this isn’t me telling you not to go in the fanzone, if you’re looking to attend a game and have an enjoyable day then go for it - it’s all we’ve ever wanted for years, is for fans to come to the Racecourse and enjoy the day. My issue isn’t so much the price but the way they’ve gone about selling this tickets to supporters! Hope this clears things up a bit, I didn’t quite make it clear in the video
    This will be the last ‘slightly’ negative video for a while 😅 up the table topping reds 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

    • @sethevans4
      @sethevans4 10 днів тому +2

      Great video liam,agree with you thanks for the cuntent keep going🎉😀

    • @kennethfinnegan2978
      @kennethfinnegan2978 10 днів тому +4

      @@LiamRobertsWxm Liam, you did nothing wrong. You presented the facts. We’re just discussing them. You’re the man Liam.

  • @gunswills85
    @gunswills85 10 днів тому +29

    You can't have it all... the temp stand costs money and we want the attendance and heaven forbid we go up again ????

  • @Widdox
    @Widdox 10 днів тому +9

    You got a lot of engagement in comments on this video Liam. Even if most of us think your take on this is wrong this is good for you and the channel.

  • @Yash-hr3uv
    @Yash-hr3uv 10 днів тому +31

    This was brought up by Humphrey at the Fearless in Devotion event a few weeks back.
    He said they made a mistake in calling it a fan zone, when in reality it’s a hospitality thing to draw people in before games.
    It seems like since it’s been going on for a bit, a lot of the fans actually do like it and think it’s worth the tenner

  • @roytromb_strength
    @roytromb_strength 10 днів тому +36

    Rare video were I don’t agree with Liam. This might be a big change but if the town wants the team to keep progressing this kind of thing will keep happening. Imagine a run to the Championship next season?! Things are gonna get more expensive and the team needs to pay wages and expansions. A £10 increase is not that bad when your team is climbing up the tables. Money is clearly going to the right places. From abroad, I bought the iFollow year pass, it’s not a great service and kinda expensive but I feel I’m doing my little part to support the team. They need to make money to expand the grounds and keep winning. In my opinion, they did think of the fans, the fans want their team to succeed and that’s the bottom line.

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +6

      Agree with 100%! My issue isn’t so much the price, it’s the way how the club goes about selling these tickets, if season tickets went up £100 if it meant the club would have a larger budget I’d more than happily pay it

  • @alpine_newt
    @alpine_newt 10 днів тому +18

    I think you're right, having a FanZone pass as an optional extra for kop seats is both fair and sensible.

  • @anthonyjohnson2959
    @anthonyjohnson2959 10 днів тому +29

    10 quid for a cool experience. Photo ops, games, food, drinks, entertainment. Seems like a 'tailgate' and worth the cost. Perhaps buy a ticket elsewhere if you don't like the Kop stand fanzone

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +5

      100% I agree, I think the club has done a good job in terms of what they offer but it’s nothing that you don’t find over the road for free! However what I can understand is that if people are willing to pay the extra £10, but it should be an option for every single seat in the temporary stand

  • @kennethfinnegan2978
    @kennethfinnegan2978 10 днів тому +46

    I don’t want to be hated by Wrexham fans because I don’t know how the family incomes are there. Here in the states, you can’t go to any professional game here without paying around $400 total between 2 people for one game. When I heard season tickets for a Wrexham season was £265 I was amazed.

    • @ThaGreatKingLeo
      @ThaGreatKingLeo 10 днів тому +4

      Facts!

    • @WanderingLB
      @WanderingLB 10 днів тому +4

      Exactly!! I can't even take my kids to a 3rd tier league here in the states for under $150 for the 4 tickets I'd need

    • @angryroy6277
      @angryroy6277 10 днів тому +6

      $40 just to park the car...

    • @ChrisThornettofEarth
      @ChrisThornettofEarth 10 днів тому +8

      Worth bearing in mind, the average salary in Wrexham is about £35k, but an extra tenner for a hospitality area doesn't seem too bad if you're making a special trip to visit the town. I know I'd probably do it if I made the journey up from the SW with the kids.

  • @andyking6316
    @andyking6316 10 днів тому +4

    Hey Liam - Stockport fan in peace. We have a fan zone which is free for anybody with a ticket - it sounds like yours is about getting a guaranteed ticket - the club will be getting money from food and drink bought in the fanzone surely( County offer 10 % discount for all season ricket holders for all food and drink).
    Ours is rammed and is making money.
    I guess ambition comes with a price and while you continue to sell out, other revenue streams will be looked at
    Great to see you up there going gead to head with us again.
    Good luck for the rest of the season with the obvious exception of 2 games

  • @ogre36
    @ogre36 10 днів тому +18

    As an American, the £32 fanzone tickets are very reasonable. Of course, American sporting events are notorious for gouging fans.

  • @ScottSterling-j5k
    @ScottSterling-j5k 10 днів тому +16

    Liam, I generally agree with much of what you have to say about the club, but in this case, it is part and parcel with the progress of the club moving up through the tiers. Can't be a non-league club and chase promotion in League One. As others have already stated, pricing is going to be tricky with all of the financial commitments current and future. While I can appreciate the concern of the locals not wanting the price to go up, it is going to be difficult to expand the supporters base (and grow the club) without some of the amenities that have been installed to date. If Wrexham is going to be a big club, these are basic building blocks of growing.

  • @travisherb2349
    @travisherb2349 10 днів тому +19

    Perspective from across the pond... If we want to pay for what we want as we go up, (stadium, players etc.) prices for a lot of items need to incrementally go up. I would LOVE to see a comparison of Wrexham prices vs. other league one, championship, and Prem teams. This feels like a case of be carful what you wish for, it might be more expensive.

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +5

      100% I totally understand that and the pricing isn’t really the main concern of mine, it’s the fact that the club are putting out a large amount of tickets that requires you to pay the extra price, It wouldn’t be such an issue if they gave every fan the option to buy a fanzone ticket. I think we all expect the prices to continue to rise to as it’s a very normal occurrence in football these days

  • @davidmiddleton6479
    @davidmiddleton6479 10 днів тому +6

    I’d make that fan zone and international zone. Soak us yanks for what we have. Lol. Might as well

    • @mardigrasw
      @mardigrasw 10 днів тому +2

      We all just fake an accent then

  • @EL.JEFE1231
    @EL.JEFE1231 10 днів тому +4

    Liam, you aren't forced to do anything. While prices must be somewhat realistic for your local supporters, the club must also run on income to pay for the things to build it. You can't pay for wages, buy land, build a training ground, or build an academy, and attempt to rebuild Cae Ras, thinking that ownership takes the full brunt of it on themselves.
    Have you used the fanzone?

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +4

      I totally understand your point, I didn’t quite clear up in the video that my frustration if you want to say isn’t aimed at the prices, it’s at the way how they sell the tickets - I’d have very little issue if the club gave everyone the option of paying the extra £10 to have access to the fanzone, however, this isn’t the case. I understand that the club needs to continue to drive revenue into the club and we’re more than happy to

  • @matthewlerma7248
    @matthewlerma7248 10 днів тому +3

    if i go to an nba game here in San Antonio texas 2 ticket's drinks and food and parking minimum $500. if i get nicer seats its pushing $1000

  • @mjg2008121
    @mjg2008121 10 днів тому +3

    They built the temp stan thinking they would lose money but wanting to allow more fans to see the match. Now things have changed and with the continued goal of making the club sustainable with potential entry in the Championship they are going to have to try something. Humphrey has already admitted that they're reviewing the whole structure

  • @Ace-ig3mj
    @Ace-ig3mj 10 днів тому +7

    I may be used to the high prices of sporting events here is north America, but the fan zone price is a steal lol

  • @jonathangriffiths-xg6wo
    @jonathangriffiths-xg6wo 10 днів тому +6

    Listen ...if Wrexham needs to pay for it self, wrexham afc need to get all the pennies in...what club doesnt do the same.....btw wrexham lucky to get 5k few yrs ago..now full house, needs to these extra experiences....go wrexham.

  • @enriquealvarado4495
    @enriquealvarado4495 10 днів тому +1

    Arizona USA supporter
    4 games in, have we played a team that was supposed to be tough yet? Many thanks and keep up the good work Liam

  • @tasmanianbadger
    @tasmanianbadger 10 днів тому +1

    Liam… on the off chance nobody has mentioned this to you… in the same way a player has to exercise and train, a commentator or broadcaster *should* do voice training. You do very, very well compared to most people. If you do regular, ongoing diction and enunciation training, it will aid your career.
    You are great!

  • @markouljancic975
    @markouljancic975 10 днів тому +2

    They should start administrative procedures for expanding another stand at the Racecourse. It seems they will reach championship level before the 1st expansion is finished...

  • @Nite-owl
    @Nite-owl 10 днів тому +6

    He's signed. Just announced. Only for the season with an option of another year.

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +2

      Really promising signing! Looking forward to seeing what he has to offer 😎

  • @recantedforger5850
    @recantedforger5850 10 днів тому +1

    As a foreign fan I do think locals should not bear the financial burden of the club alone. If there was a way to do it, a local price and a visiting price could be established to maybe help things work out financially. Obviously then the problem becomes wanting to sell less local tickets because it makes less money(and might incentivize locals to scalp tickets), but if the club really belongs to the town as Rob and Ryan have said they need to find a way to enable the average local fan to see the game in person.
    This is tricky. Going up leagues too is only going to exasperate financial demands on the club. I don't think there is an easy answer, but would very much like to stay up to know if the situation does change in the near future.

    • @mardigrasw
      @mardigrasw 10 днів тому +2

      Just buy more jerseys

  • @r2dad282
    @r2dad282 10 днів тому +1

    Is there an assumption the locals are in the permanent stands which are covered (holding season tickets) , and mostly tourists in the temporary stands?

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +2

      Not necessarily, you’ll find that they do put general tickets on sale in each of the 3 stands for every game but the large proportion of fans in the 3 stands will have been ST holders prior to the takeover, so in a way you could say that
      I think the temporary stand will house people who are still local that possibly can’t make every game or have shown a new interest in the club

  • @LiamRobertsWxm
    @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +5

    What are your thoughts on the Fanzone? Do you think it’s overpriced or would you pay the extra £10?
    Welcome to Wrexham as well, Josh Adam 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿✍️

    • @domgerroir5673
      @domgerroir5673 10 днів тому +2

      To a Canadian who has to pay approximately 85 pounds for a nosebleed section seat for an NHL game.....sounds good.

    • @user-bj9rs7qp4o
      @user-bj9rs7qp4o 10 днів тому +1

      Just paid 40 bucks for a minor league baseball game for a group of six. So I understand how this can be a big ask. But isn’t this an optional upgrade of tickets? Best of luck with the season and I’m enjoying your content!

  • @philipparry1071
    @philipparry1071 10 днів тому +3

    Brought 2 adult and 2 children tickets for Crawley for the fanzone, £103 ,

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому +1

      Hope you enjoy it! Is that a price you’d be willing to pay for every home game this season? Or do you think it should be lower

    • @ghostron5012
      @ghostron5012 10 днів тому

      Is that expensive in Wales? An American asking.

    • @philipparry1071
      @philipparry1071 10 днів тому +1

      We live in Wrexham, went on the website at 10am on the day of the ticket sale looking for 4 tickets together, that was the only place that I could find what I wanted, if I just wanted a ticket for myself could have got one in the mold Road

    • @philipparry1071
      @philipparry1071 10 днів тому

      @ghostron5012 it's more the case of paying for something I don't really want, but because I needed 4 tickets together that was my only option, even though I went on the ticket site as soon as the tickets went on sale

    • @philipparry1071
      @philipparry1071 10 днів тому +2

      @LiamRobertsWxm . I think you should have the option, if you want to go in the fanzine or not, I live in Wrexham so don't really need to get to the ground that early.

  • @shawnfrey4757
    @shawnfrey4757 10 днів тому +6

    Winning and promotion earning teams cost more, so it cost fans more. It is all part of building and sustaining a winning team. Im from Kansas City, have been a chiefs fan since the early 90s. We went from being a team that only won 4 playoff games in 50 years, to winning 3 of the last 5 SB. The cost to the ownership has gone up to keep and get great players to keep the winning going, and thus the cost of being a fan has gone up. Prices going up should be expected, when your team is winning.

  • @neilwalker4686
    @neilwalker4686 10 днів тому +2

    Liam, i would gladly pay anything to watch Wrexham, But my visa card does't have a start date, therefore flags up when trying to become a wxm memeber

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому

      I totally understand where you’re coming from Neil and I hope you’re able to attend a game very soon! Don’t get me wrong I’m not forcing anyone to not buy a fanzone ticket, some people like yourself would happily pay for it and I’m sure you’d love the community of the club and we’d welcome you with open arms

  • @GuitarFuel
    @GuitarFuel 10 днів тому +1

    For me, top signing so far ... Dobson, the dude is a massive player !

  • @jeffcowell3935
    @jeffcowell3935 10 днів тому +1

    Whatever the market allows is what they should charge.

  • @huwevans8782
    @huwevans8782 10 днів тому +1

    Great win on Saturday! but it's not like beating Chester is it!😁

  • @cceichhorn1
    @cceichhorn1 10 днів тому +4

    I think my rebuttal to your fanzone comments would be this: the documentary made it clear that the KOP was a horrible financial decision for the owners, and almost certainly came at a financial loss. The fan zone seems like a way for the owners to recoup at least a bit of that money.
    Not saying it's the best way they could do it, but I do think it's worth discussing just how they *should* do instead. How else should they recoup the money? Raise general ticket prices instead? And if the answer is "they shouldn't recoup the money," I'd just say that Rob and Ryan seem to have invested quite a lot of money into Wrexham AFC and insisting they lose even more without any way to make some back feels unfair to owners who have really worked hard to lift Wrexham up.
    And just to be clear: I would be singing a different tune if the owners were clearly making bank on the team and just increasing their profits further with the fan zone, but that's not what's happening, I don't think!

  • @theotherhalf6303
    @theotherhalf6303 10 днів тому

    The effort of the management has put forth. Should be matched by fans there and worldwide full support, nothing less. Prices are fair, but maybe there should be little discount on families.

  • @robharrison5893
    @robharrison5893 10 днів тому +1

    Soon as the wether changes will see alot off empty seats

  • @peterjones-m2t
    @peterjones-m2t 10 днів тому

    I got ticket for temporary stand without fan zone for crawly game but seemed to have to buy fan zone ticket for first 2 games so maybe a change giving the option?

  • @mjsteier
    @mjsteier 10 днів тому

    I remember going to West brom years ago early 2000's to watch a premier league game , west brom had come up to the premier league from the championship , i was amazed the ticket price was £19 the adverage premier league ticket price was double that at around £38 . I even said to the turnstile operator , your premier league now youve missed a trick on the price today ! WBA were a bit of a yoyo team and got relegated they came up the following season and charged £34 for the game i think . They learnt quickly , imo wrexham are in for a good season again , youve already probably found out away game tickets are expensive in league one for your club because of your success , money talks things are gonna get expensive the higher you get ! Im loving your journey , football thows up great stories like yours , for the most football fans will want you to keep rising , and many will be saying why didnt they pick us 😂 bet your paying around £34 for the Birmingham match ticket maybe more ? Hope ya stuff em .

  • @davidcarr9168
    @davidcarr9168 10 днів тому +2

    Great video. You did a good job with a difficult topic. I disagree that the club has not considered fans. The temp KOP is costing over a million per year prior to expanding capacity to address ticket demand by fans. The fan zone is a premium cost to operate as well. It is easy to say that they can lower prices. Higher costs since COVID are felt globaly for business as well people on fixed incomes. Not you Liam, but to use Rob's favorite word whinging about cold wet weather and fan zone. They could put up a marquee in the area as respite. I just hope the plans for either the new KOP or the whole new stadium are not delayed further. Cheers!

  • @a.j.merrifield7558
    @a.j.merrifield7558 10 днів тому +3

    So, on the Fanzone, from what I've seen the Fanzone isn't a separate area, but rather an optional upgrade to the temporary Kop tickets. Unless there's been another update that I've missed, there isn't a requisite number of Fanzone tickets sold per game, but rather a maximum number due to occupancy limits. So, if you want Kop tickets, buy Kop tickets at the normal price, and if you want the Fanzone, buy the upgrade, but you're not going to be forced to buy them. Also, if an adult buys the Fanzone upgrade, they can bring 2 children with them in the upgrade cost, so it's not going to impact the cost of family prices that much. At least, that's what my understanding is, if I'm wrong I'd love to learn more.

    • @johnlloydroberts1345
      @johnlloydroberts1345 10 днів тому +6

      From having a quick look the clubs sells an amount of tickets per game that are requiring you to pay the £10 extra. This is why fans are getting upset it's due to the normal tickets selling out meaning that they have to pay the £10 extra

  • @benowen6750
    @benowen6750 10 днів тому +2

    I had to pay that extra £10 the last time I was in the temp stand, I didn’t want to go to the Fanzone as I always go to the Turf which have their own Fanzone area (which I prefer by the way) so as you can imagine I wasn’t happy about it and it should be optional 💯 % 😉👍🏼

  • @caltrader1180
    @caltrader1180 10 днів тому +2

    You could have just increased the regular ticket prices by £3-4 and probably made more. Poor decision in my mind.

  • @bettertogether5774
    @bettertogether5774 10 днів тому

    Yes I agree

  • @WarmApplePye
    @WarmApplePye 10 днів тому +1

    Completely agree Liam! I was in the fan zone for the Shrewsbury game, I won't be attending again it's a waste of money. Extra £10 for overpriced beer, 1 food truck and 1 coffee stand with a few benches under a marquee. I saw another comment comparing it to an American tailgate, it's nothing like that... it's nothing more than a cashgrab by Wrexham.
    I can get all these things in town I shouldn't have to be forced to pay this to get a matchday day ticket. To all the yanks in the comments, and extra £40 to go into a tiny, cramped area is a lot it sucks.

  • @aznmonkeydude
    @aznmonkeydude 10 днів тому

    10 pound is like 13 US dollars.

  • @Big12Fan
    @Big12Fan 10 днів тому +1

    seems like this is the price advancement and paying for extra amenities. this wasn't put together for folks who are trying to save money or families to go every week. this was done to maximize the temporary space as is. non-league prices and experiences were never going to be the norm as the popularity of the club blew up attracting international matchday fans and as the climb to the prem continues.

  • @scientiaestpotentia2007
    @scientiaestpotentia2007 10 днів тому

    I thought it was gonna be about the ifollow

    • @LiamRobertsWxm
      @LiamRobertsWxm  10 днів тому

      I’ve seen a few complaints about ifollow from the past few games, have you had any issues with it? And what seems to be the problem that everyone’s having?

    • @scientiaestpotentia2007
      @scientiaestpotentia2007 10 днів тому

      @@LiamRobertsWxm I saw a lot of people complaining about the stream of the Shrewsbury match on Twitter I personally didn’t watch it.

  • @lcfckieran7611
    @lcfckieran7611 10 днів тому +2

    Fanzones are a big hit at some clubs, pricing definitely pays a huge factor in it. I think you may have got it wrong on this occasion,,£10 😮

  • @barrydimelow822
    @barrydimelow822 10 днів тому +1

    Forced to buy memebership, forced into the fanzone!

  • @phildavies100
    @phildavies100 10 днів тому +2

    I certainly wouldn’t pay it…especially in a stand with no roof….

    • @anthonyjohnson2959
      @anthonyjohnson2959 10 днів тому +3

      Good thing there are 3 other stands with roofs! Haha

  • @RogerFleury-rh9wr
    @RogerFleury-rh9wr 10 днів тому

    37th! Liam, I hope they don’t price and push the locals out of the matches. Money isn’t everything. I hope they rethink the 10£ charge for the sake of the supporters. Great job as always Liam. Roger in Pierre South Dakota USA

  • @mardigrasw
    @mardigrasw 10 днів тому +3

    FAN ZONE 👎

  • @pauldavies6026
    @pauldavies6026 10 днів тому +2

    I have been in it not worth the extra money

  • @jcabral6231
    @jcabral6231 10 днів тому

    First

  • @johnlloydroberts1345
    @johnlloydroberts1345 10 днів тому +1

    Agree. Simple solution is for the club to reduce prices to suit all fans

    • @hondomclean6759
      @hondomclean6759 10 днів тому +2

      Gonna be pretty hard to do as you gain more success.