Ok I think that would actually be a really funny series. Like a pro who mains a race getting coached by a pro who doesn't main the race. Reynor playing zerg coached by harstem etc
The "changeling" what Reynor saw was a drone rallying from the third to the main. It was perfectly timed, because what Reynor saw was the overseer went there and that exact time the drone left the vicinity of the evo chamber and he could see something going from the overseer to the main.
It's nice to see how experienced in ZvZ Raynor is... At about 7min when Harstem said "This guy is owning me" I also thought something similar, but Raynor be like "Nah, you're fine" and Harstem win that TF.
6:13 yeah there was a blip in minimap, also Raynor said kill 4th not going to kill him. Maybe blip was overseer ? Darn I love their banter, they must love eachother
good matches, I think its the hydra that helps roaches against cyclones, because roaches dont have the range, or damage, they just have the health pool for the hydras. Other then that, perhaps making the brood lords in the enemy dead space instead of your own base, for the end game dead space turtle all in that is so vicious and hold position'y -- Cyclones weakness comes from its low health and wide surround area, but they dps zerglings too well for you to properly exploit the wide surround area (unlike zealots which live longer and are more efficient), also known as the collision radius, thus the better unit, if I remember correctly, was the the roach for the mid game damage soak and the hydra for the range. when low on gas zerglings can also supplement roaches but wont soak as much damage as roaches will, hurting your mineral to damage soak ratio. Ultras are too in cumbersome and flop around like dead fish to cyclones. Cyclones are unique in their high attack speed high movement speed high damage low cost with fast build speed and high build count. there is not much in the data to compare them too, with the exception of the spine crawler. they have more health, more damage, if but a tiny bit less range, they them selves are decent against cyclones, when on top of ramps, behind evo chambers, and uptop cliffs. Spine crawlers deal bonus damage to cyclones, because cyclones count as being armored, and spine crawlers deal bonus damage to armored units. Vipers can also significantly hurt cyclones, by reducing their range, the zerglings can better close the distance, taking less hits, being safer, because the overall range of the center of the cyclone death ball is reduced too much for the outer edges of the cyclone deathball to live. Cloud also helps the other vipers live longer. I found in data tests ai vrs ai that viper ling hydra is fairly scary against non mobile cyclones/marauder balls. How ever, ai are only so test worthy. The Spine crawler really is a sit and turtle kind of asset. vastly inferior to the cyclones map control. But I cant think of much else that is early game for zerg to do against it. Based on ai testing. So perhaps mass spine crawler, with early roach defense, with later support team of hydra lurker to viper? instead of corruptor ravager infestor? not sure. perhaps worthy of a try. Im not sure there was alot more to be done for that one regardless. The cyclone does feel kind of awful doesnt it? perhaps 18 damage 1.00 attack speed is just too high, I can taste the nerf bat comin from a mile away, due to the numbers. but was still a fun round to watch. well done.
Just so you don't have to look back at the video for why the mic was so far away from Raynor. Raynor was wiping his nose a lot. It looks like this video was taken when he was still sick. The mic was NO where near Raynor's backside, as Harstem suggested.
Bro, I went back to watch the minimap and I also could've sworn that there was a changeling. Turns out it was just a drone bc Harstem took his main gas so late
The other day i had someone stomp me hard, i was about to leave, mid his attack he gg'd me and started telling me i was dead it was rude to stay in... i came back and won out of spite. The tilt..
Don't encourage being BM. That's not nice. I'm tired of the ladder being so toxic with players saying 'out' the moment they think they are winning, or insulting you whenever they can or when they loose.
I'm no zerg expert but i think going mass hydra in the last game should have won you the game without the infestors or broods. The problem with roaches isn't the speed it's the low range so cyclones can lock on and run away without being punished
Weird how *NEITHER OF THE TWO* could assess correctly how/why Harstem lost game 1. ... : *NAMELY: too slow on upping the extractor gas count and on keeping par with the upgrades....* Frankly, I'm NOT convinced that killing that fourth base when he had the chance would have netted him the game... :P (although it would have *STILL* been *the CORRECT play* in that particular moment in the game; At least good on them to mention that option in their post-game analysis...) .
@@Hephera I'm old and making stuff easier to read... *mainly FOR MYSELF... :P* (I can understand how that leads to the, in this case _INCORRECT_ , assumption that it also makes it *easier **_FOR OTHERS_** too...* ) My bad! :P .
Can we start a gofundme to get Reynor a microphone.
fr, couldn't hear a damn word most the time
8:08 a drone rallies from the third to the gas in the main, which is what reynor thought to be a changeling
Nice catch
Reynor should teach you some toss as well.
Ok I think that would actually be a really funny series. Like a pro who mains a race getting coached by a pro who doesn't main the race. Reynor playing zerg coached by harstem etc
@@soggycheese8485 Reynors toss is actually insanely good, possibly better than Harstems
@@plantex625reynor has worse knowledge but better mechanics.
But he does abuse recall and stuff that harstem I think should take more advantage of
Brutal
I think their styles are different enough and Reynor is good enough with toss that it could make for a great series.
You guys are hilarious interacting with each other - lots of fun to watch.
Harstem saying "back in my day" while wearing that sweater. 💀
The "changeling" what Reynor saw was a drone rallying from the third to the main. It was perfectly timed, because what Reynor saw was the overseer went there and that exact time the drone left the vicinity of the evo chamber and he could see something going from the overseer to the main.
2:15 "tell him to leave" > opens chat
24:30 Harstem didn't select enough drones, so the hatchery did not build
hatchery didn't make
blasphemy! something else happened
this is the best sc2 content out there. would rather watch this than tourney
Reynor coaching Harstem is still my favorite series
"Tell him to leave" cracked me
“Go back to mining gas”
Harstem was about to do it too😂
love it when harstem is cooking an insult against reynors mic management
At least Mister Reynor knows the not killed 4th base was his mistake. He might become a decent player one day. 😅😘
13:11 "It's weird though because you are also not known for being smart" 😂😂😂
Dead ass roast 😂
It's nice to see how experienced in ZvZ Raynor is... At about 7min when Harstem said "This guy is owning me" I also thought something similar, but Raynor be like "Nah, you're fine" and Harstem win that TF.
2:17 he says to tell him to leave. I laughed pretty hard at Harstem being too nice for all that.
I’m so sad, I thought this was finally another one of those changeling videos from a few years ago where it was 3 of you sabotaging each other 😂
have a reynor like coach is so much fun. i enjoyed so much watching the video
6:13 yeah there was a blip in minimap, also Raynor said kill 4th not going to kill him. Maybe blip was overseer ?
Darn I love their banter, they must love eachother
I totally got baited thinking you guys were playing the changeling game. I want my money back 😆
I’m pretty sure Reynor isn’t using his headset mic on discord, it sounds like it’s his webcam mic. His volume changes when he leans back
I love how this was so obviously immediately recorded after the last vid with reynor hahah
good matches, I think its the hydra that helps roaches against cyclones, because roaches dont have the range, or damage, they just have the health pool for the hydras. Other then that, perhaps making the brood lords in the enemy dead space instead of your own base, for the end game dead space turtle all in that is so vicious and hold position'y -- Cyclones weakness comes from its low health and wide surround area, but they dps zerglings too well for you to properly exploit the wide surround area (unlike zealots which live longer and are more efficient), also known as the collision radius, thus the better unit, if I remember correctly, was the the roach for the mid game damage soak and the hydra for the range. when low on gas zerglings can also supplement roaches but wont soak as much damage as roaches will, hurting your mineral to damage soak ratio. Ultras are too in cumbersome and flop around like dead fish to cyclones. Cyclones are unique in their high attack speed high movement speed high damage low cost with fast build speed and high build count. there is not much in the data to compare them too, with the exception of the spine crawler. they have more health, more damage, if but a tiny bit less range, they them selves are decent against cyclones, when on top of ramps, behind evo chambers, and uptop cliffs. Spine crawlers deal bonus damage to cyclones, because cyclones count as being armored, and spine crawlers deal bonus damage to armored units. Vipers can also significantly hurt cyclones, by reducing their range, the zerglings can better close the distance, taking less hits, being safer, because the overall range of the center of the cyclone death ball is reduced too much for the outer edges of the cyclone deathball to live. Cloud also helps the other vipers live longer. I found in data tests ai vrs ai that viper ling hydra is fairly scary against non mobile cyclones/marauder balls. How ever, ai are only so test worthy. The Spine crawler really is a sit and turtle kind of asset. vastly inferior to the cyclones map control. But I cant think of much else that is early game for zerg to do against it. Based on ai testing.
So perhaps mass spine crawler, with early roach defense, with later support team of hydra lurker to viper? instead of corruptor ravager infestor? not sure. perhaps worthy of a try.
Im not sure there was alot more to be done for that one regardless. The cyclone does feel kind of awful doesnt it? perhaps 18 damage 1.00 attack speed is just too high, I can taste the nerf bat comin from a mile away, due to the numbers. but was still a fun round to watch. well done.
Much love to you reynor
Reynor out here winning with his Holiness
Just so you don't have to look back at the video for why the mic was so far away from Raynor. Raynor was wiping his nose a lot. It looks like this video was taken when he was still sick. The mic was NO where near Raynor's backside, as Harstem suggested.
2:15 is pure comedy!! Aahahhahha
you should submit this game to iodis
Reynor complimenting Harstem got a wholesome vibe to it.
Personally one of my favourite kind of video!
I love how he started to open the chat before realizing, yea that's too dickish :D
2:00 I’m crying captain
Bro, I went back to watch the minimap and I also could've sworn that there was a changeling. Turns out it was just a drone bc Harstem took his main gas so late
Title is a good reminder that Reynor should be a guest on the next Changeling episode
Would love to see you play Protoss with Reynor telling you how. ;3
My favorite series. Harstem riding the italian stallion for 30 minutes straight
I love episodes with reynor
Game 2 going into IODIS?
So nice of Reynor to coach you from the bathroom.
Love these videos.
Harstem is just like the big brother, who is just worse at playing games. Or the dad XD
Harstem just confirmed how hard it is to play Zerg even with reynor as a coach
The other day i had someone stomp me hard, i was about to leave, mid his attack he gg'd me and started telling me i was dead it was rude to stay in... i came back and won out of spite. The tilt..
"Tell him to leave" hahahaha
those vids are always a banger
I think reynors solid personality could improve any sc2 content
@@sakesaurus especially the 'Tell him to leave!'
take a shot everytime raynor says "if you want"
Don't encourage being BM. That's not nice. I'm tired of the ladder being so toxic with players saying 'out' the moment they think they are winning, or insulting you whenever they can or when they loose.
I'm no zerg expert but i think going mass hydra in the last game should have won you the game without the infestors or broods. The problem with roaches isn't the speed it's the low range so cyclones can lock on and run away without being punished
This mass cyclone seems like too op
Cyclone Imba?
I don't want to be that guy but ling speed lol, great collab
Weird how *NEITHER OF THE TWO* could assess correctly how/why Harstem lost game 1. ... :
*NAMELY: too slow on upping the extractor gas count and on keeping par with the upgrades....*
Frankly, I'm NOT convinced that killing that fourth base when he had the chance would have netted him the game... :P
(although it would have *STILL* been *the CORRECT play* in that particular moment in the game; At least good on them to mention that option in their post-game analysis...)
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bro THIS is not HOW emphasis or CAPITAL letters work. you look INSANE
@@Hephera I'm old and making stuff easier to read... *mainly FOR MYSELF... :P*
(I can understand how that leads to the, in this case _INCORRECT_ , assumption that it also makes it *easier **_FOR OTHERS_** too...* )
My bad! :P
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21:00 -- *EWWWWWW !! :D*
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Someone get that kid modern microphone jesus ;D
In that last game did you guys both forget lurkers exist?
Feels like terran nowadays is just mass cyclones and win.
Weekly Reynor is the best
Cyclones imba?
24:26
Cyclones are so shit iin Zvt :(
Why is your mic so loud?
Reynor 😠
First time im this early
ua-cam.com/video/arlKzqCBVBA/v-deo.htmlsi=h59ovOcDtdQ7uieA&t=125 is pure comedy