Great vid! Nice to hear the king of frogs thoughts on these decks. With the dream frog list, is that James's most recent decklist? I don't remember the thestalos being there when he topped. Also agree with the addition of Pot of Avarice and Foolish Burial to Plant Frogs. They're too good not to add. Also considering Salvage + Lord Poison which synergises with discarding Tytannial but also giving fuel to your discard traps. This channel is growing to be one of my favourites to watch, look forward to more cool videos!!!
Where did you guys get that Dream Frog list from? I know it says James Arc, but the only Dream Frogs vids of his I could find feature a different decklist with two LaDs. I’m interested to hear where the changes came from, or if he has a preference for one list or the other
Machina should be higher. Its resiliance alone to DDV ( which is becoming more and more played) puts it above builds like garden, diva, plant, geartown. Also the argument of well it loses to commonly sided cards, ya well so does plant diva geartown and garden. Not only do they lose to commonly sided cards, they also lose to commonly mained deck cards like trap cards/ effect monsters, such as bottomless or Rageki break or monarchs, where as fortress has some resilance or punish your opponent. Now I uderstand Machina is far from perfect but I think there are cards that help out a lot, but get overlooked. Burial or D.D.R being great ways to counter prison banishing fortress. Trap stun and dust tornado sided is also very powerful in keeping rug, mask, ddv from being as good against you. As a final argumet, I think machina is more consistant and has more gas then the other A tier versions. I just think the build you showed is nnot the optimal build and that there are better builds out there running more of a Machina frog monarch build. This build doesnt have cards like sphere or ladd, which honestly can sit dead in your hand a lot of the time. P.S I have played a lot of Machina control and Cyber Dragons effectiveness against machina is massively overrated. it does no cripple the deck like people think it does, it is more of a small pest than a card that cripples. Goyo is way worse as he steals fortress even when poppped by fortress.
I haven't watched the vid yet so Idk if lists are included or not, but I want a list for the forg hero deck so bad! That double armory arm collosal fighter play to kill through just a gale was so dirty that I NEEED the lost lmaooo
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Great list and discussion! although you forgot to include the most powerful build of frogs, Codarus Frogs lol
This video took me through my entire drive today and I loved it
Great vid! Nice to hear the king of frogs thoughts on these decks.
With the dream frog list, is that James's most recent decklist? I don't remember the thestalos being there when he topped.
Also agree with the addition of Pot of Avarice and Foolish Burial to Plant Frogs. They're too good not to add. Also considering Salvage + Lord Poison which synergises with discarding Tytannial but also giving fuel to your discard traps.
This channel is growing to be one of my favourites to watch, look forward to more cool videos!!!
Re: dream frogs that was his original list from format library, I think before Bronte even won UTW. Thanks for support!
F yeah, Jiraiya on screen, looking for an amaryllis tier list too
awesome video 🔥
Where did you guys get that Dream Frog list from? I know it says James Arc, but the only Dream Frogs vids of his I could find feature a different decklist with two LaDs. I’m interested to hear where the changes came from, or if he has a preference for one list or the other
It was his first online top with the deck I believe. I would venture to say he prefers his more recent lists, but you’d have to ask him
@ okay gotcha, thanks for the reply! By any chance do you know if there are vods of the tourney he topped?
Missing the meme frog decks: GB frogs and Blackwing Frogs 😅
We need more meme frog decks 👏🏽
no relinquished frog
What is that?
@ frogs with a relinquished package, manju, preperation of rites, djinn, etc
@@TheMacroShowwho needs meta has vids with relinquished frogs
Machina should be higher. Its resiliance alone to DDV ( which is becoming more and more played) puts it above builds like garden, diva, plant, geartown. Also the argument of well it loses to commonly sided cards, ya well so does plant diva geartown and garden. Not only do they lose to commonly sided cards, they also lose to commonly mained deck cards like trap cards/ effect monsters, such as bottomless or Rageki break or monarchs, where as fortress has some resilance or punish your opponent.
Now I uderstand Machina is far from perfect but I think there are cards that help out a lot, but get overlooked. Burial or D.D.R being great ways to counter prison banishing fortress. Trap stun and dust tornado sided is also very powerful in keeping rug, mask, ddv from being as good against you.
As a final argumet, I think machina is more consistant and has more gas then the other A tier versions. I just think the build you showed is nnot the optimal build and that there are better builds out there running more of a Machina frog monarch build. This build doesnt have cards like sphere or ladd, which honestly can sit dead in your hand a lot of the time.
P.S I have played a lot of Machina control and Cyber Dragons effectiveness against machina is massively overrated. it does no cripple the deck like people think it does, it is more of a small pest than a card that cripples. Goyo is way worse as he steals fortress even when poppped by fortress.
Gotta respect the Forg love ❤
I haven't watched the vid yet so Idk if lists are included or not, but I want a list for the forg hero deck so bad! That double armory arm collosal fighter play to kill through just a gale was so dirty that I NEEED the lost lmaooo
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@@TeamStarlightYGOjust went and checked it out, thanks so much! 😁
Hell yeah
heritage frogs can ftk with tempest magician :)
no virus frogs 🦠
Did you see the diva frog discussion?
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