Heck yeah Randy thanks 🙏 for sharing all in one video. I have heard you mention these separately or here and there but I’m glad you brought them all together in one video. I actually took a screenshot of all 8. 😃 As you know I am from the east side of the United States 🇺🇸 and for 5 years or more have wanted to get out west, especially on a pronghorn hunt let alone a mule deer 🦌 or elk hunt, etc… I wish that I could do more than one trip. But I probably will do that Wyoming pronghorn and mule deer 🦌 hunt that I have been talking about for years now. 2024 HAS to be my year to FINALLY get out west on a hunt. 🙏
good video Randy I have been planning my hunts for the next 4-5 years. Im going thru the cycle of building 3-4 points in 3 different states for mule deer so I can go out on a decent muley hunt every year. In off years (if im a point short) hunt cow elk, prong, or OTC bulls. Being a CO resident 3-4 resident mule deer points can go a long way
I wonder if there will eventually be a point crash because the average age of hunters skewing older, mostly boomers. Will high point holders be aging out or passing away?
I’ve wondered the same thing! I know a lot of guys that will likely take their points to their grave. It’s SOMETHING to incentivize the younger generation to build points who otherwise wouldn’t draw for 30 years on limited entry type hunts.
Holy smokes Einstein! I might as well be rubbing two sticks together. I look at the units that are in reasonable driving distance from my house and the number of tags and species and that's about it. I pick the units I know my way around in a little and the highest number of tags but I don't leave my state of Az to hunt.
Nope. Some like to say that’s my motivation. I’ll never have enough points to leap over the tens of thousands with those high point totals. I’m happy to hunt 1-5 point units the rest of my life. I just want people to have as much information as possible.
@@Fresh_Tracks I understand Randy, I was just trying to be funny. Keep up the good work, I’m of the same mind set as you are. I will keep doing the same thing.
Some of the double digit holders should share with single digit holders. They would have a buddy or family member to hunt with. No sense taking your points to the grave
What is the source of some of this data, especially point-holders and double-digit point holders? It seems like only one or two states even provide this, so I don't see how you would cross-compare to other states on that basis.
How can I hunt rifle elk in, let's say Colorado, each year and also accumulate preference points in Colorado? Is OTC tags the only option? I'm a nonresident. Thanks for all of your outstanding info, especially this recent series.
@HuntFishColo so that will get me a point and also allow me to potentially draw my 2nd choice tag? Last year was my first time entering the draw and I got my 1st choice w zero points but it was one of the super high odds units, almost 100% for nonresidents. I'm very new to draws and points management. I appreciate the info.
Being out east I enjoy the content. But my friends out west say that the UA-cam channels and apps are what are making tags so hard to get. I’m starting to lean that way too because all the otc tags I wanted as a young man are draws now. Life was better when land lines where the way to get information.
It 100% is adding in making tags harder but that isn't on the Content Creators and more on the states and the things they do. Doesn't make sense to be mad about more people trying to get tags, aren't we all on the same team of hunting and conservation? Why gatekeep it? And thats coming from a guy that dreams of hunting sheep and goat lol
@@HuntFishColo shouldn’t they favor the resident? I mean anyone making money (outfitters,UA-camrs,app creators) should be subjected to the left overs in my opinion. The guy saving for a once in a lifetime trip is being priced out more and more every year. Because of the apps and free UA-cam knowledge. Hunting shouldn’t be easy, shouldn’t be a rich man’s sport Or an instagram opportunity.
@@BadKarma.- depends on the motives. Look at what Chris bee did to Kansas with one video. I’m a big fan of his as well just sayin. I’m not mad just sticking up for the residents that don’t watch this stuff. Imagine going to the spot you’ve hunted for years, after scouting all season and seeing 4 different states license plates in the parking spot. That wasn’t happening 10 years ago. I’m from Michigan so I’ll never know but I can imagine the feeling
I took some advice from another video Randy. Thanks man I got a Elk tag! Keep em coming.
Heck yeah Randy thanks 🙏 for sharing all in one video. I have heard you mention these separately or here and there but I’m glad you brought them all together in one video. I actually took a screenshot of all 8. 😃
As you know I am from the east side of the United States 🇺🇸 and for 5 years or more have wanted to get out west, especially on a pronghorn hunt let alone a mule deer 🦌 or elk hunt, etc… I wish that I could do more than one trip. But I probably will do that Wyoming pronghorn and mule deer 🦌 hunt that I have been talking about for years now. 2024 HAS to be my year to FINALLY get out west on a hunt. 🙏
good video Randy
I have been planning my hunts for the next 4-5 years. Im going thru the cycle of building 3-4 points in 3 different states for mule deer so I can go out on a decent muley hunt every year. In off years (if im a point short) hunt cow elk, prong, or OTC bulls. Being a CO resident 3-4 resident mule deer points can go a long way
Nice
I wonder if there will eventually be a point crash because the average age of hunters skewing older, mostly boomers. Will high point holders be aging out or passing away?
I wonder the same thing. I tend to believe that something along those lines will happen over the next 10 years.
I’ve wondered the same thing! I know a lot of guys that will likely take their points to their grave. It’s SOMETHING to incentivize the younger generation to build points who otherwise wouldn’t draw for 30 years on limited entry type hunts.
How many of those max points holders are even alive. Maybe a family member has taken over there account and plan on point sharing
Thank you for doing you and giving the average Joe a starting point.
Holy smokes Einstein! I might as well be rubbing two sticks together. I look at the units that are in reasonable driving distance from my house and the number of tags and species and that's about it. I pick the units I know my way around in a little and the highest number of tags but I don't leave my state of Az to hunt.
I think Randy is playing the long term game, trying to talk all those max point people into using their points lol.
Nope. Some like to say that’s my motivation. I’ll never have enough points to leap over the tens of thousands with those high point totals. I’m happy to hunt 1-5 point units the rest of my life. I just want people to have as much information as possible.
@@Fresh_Tracks I understand Randy, I was just trying to be funny. Keep up the good work, I’m of the same mind set as you are. I will keep doing the same thing.
Great advice and video as always Randy.
Thanks Randy.
Some of the double digit holders should share with single digit holders. They would have a buddy or family member to hunt with. No sense taking your points to the grave
Appreciate it randy! Thanx
One thing I’m curious about is if a point holder dies are they still included in that number or no
Not in Wyoming. They purge after two years of no activity.
What is the source of some of this data, especially point-holders and double-digit point holders? It seems like only one or two states even provide this, so I don't see how you would cross-compare to other states on that basis.
You can get it from every state with a point system.
How can I hunt rifle elk in, let's say Colorado, each year and also accumulate preference points in Colorado? Is OTC tags the only option? I'm a nonresident.
Thanks for all of your outstanding info, especially this recent series.
Put P-PP as your first option in the draw
@HuntFishColo so that will get me a point and also allow me to potentially draw my 2nd choice tag? Last year was my first time entering the draw and I got my 1st choice w zero points but it was one of the super high odds units, almost 100% for nonresidents. I'm very new to draws and points management. I appreciate the info.
Correct, if you don't draw the first choice you'll get your point
Being out east I enjoy the content. But my friends out west say that the UA-cam channels and apps are what are making tags so hard to get. I’m starting to lean that way too because all the otc tags I wanted as a young man are draws now. Life was better when land lines where the way to get information.
Partially right - but game agencies policies favoring Residents/ Outfitters when it comes to tag allocation is driving that trend
It 100% is adding in making tags harder but that isn't on the Content Creators and more on the states and the things they do. Doesn't make sense to be mad about more people trying to get tags, aren't we all on the same team of hunting and conservation? Why gatekeep it? And thats coming from a guy that dreams of hunting sheep and goat lol
@@HuntFishColo shouldn’t they favor the resident? I mean anyone making money (outfitters,UA-camrs,app creators) should be subjected to the left overs in my opinion. The guy saving for a once in a lifetime trip is being priced out more and more every year. Because of the apps and free UA-cam knowledge. Hunting shouldn’t be easy, shouldn’t be a rich man’s sport Or an instagram opportunity.
@@BadKarma.- depends on the motives. Look at what Chris bee did to Kansas with one video. I’m a big fan of his as well just sayin. I’m not mad just sticking up for the residents that don’t watch this stuff. Imagine going to the spot you’ve hunted for years, after scouting all season and seeing 4 different states license plates in the parking spot. That wasn’t happening 10 years ago. I’m from Michigan so I’ll never know but I can imagine the feeling
@@MichiganPublic Been that way here in Ohio for the last 10+ years, nothin new
Inflation, we need more than $50 these days.
Do a beginners budget guide to elk hunting plz
Colorado or Idaho OTC are probably the best guaranteed budget method
Thanks I have no idea where to start
@buckfeveredneck Im brand new as well but as far as my research has gone those are the 2 best for a guaranteed tag
Well thanks anyway
1st!
As the Bible says, the last shall be 1st, and the 1st last.