@@RinoaL Like everyone says, I hope you are careful - that roof is high. I would always tie off to a secure point (not a clamp) so you cannot fall off. You can still walk around without using the rope to pull. It's good you own a harness anyway.
oh dont worry, im actually an extremely careful person. I work about half as slow as most people, but its because im being very deliberate and aware of everything i do. its proven to be the safest way to go tbh.
you afraid of welding sparks? if i think the sparks get too big i hold a piece of shielding in front of me anyway. my shoes shouldnt be in the line of fire. and i wore sandals for the acid to make it easier to wash off, that is actually safer ya know. cloth would hold the acid up against the skin and make burns longer. lastly i wear sandals in summer because if i dont, i can more easilly get heat stroke.
Magnets don't really hold it from sliding very much, you need something with high friction, they sell non-slip mat material in rolls, i'm not sure what its called but I have see it in Walmart I think, its used for anything when you don't want it to slide, it would work really good if you put a layer on the bottom of the shoes, Also they do already make shoes with something similar that is specifically for walking on steep roofs.
The magnet is not to grip itself, but to pull/trap the grip material tight to the surface more so than regular foot pressure would... I would hope, and am fairly sure Rin realises this.
Go ahead and install the anchor points for your solar panels and use them to get to peak and make a ladder that primarily goes over the panels so you have a maintenance walk for the panels also ps a eye bolt into the peak would be far safer then trusting a c clamp with your life
mountain climbing harness with rope tied to an anchor point on the opposite side or something similar. A friend of mine picked up something called a roofers bucket kit. it came with everything he needed to work on an old house roof. it came packed in a five gallon bucket.
I give you a lot of credit. We need more women like you. My whole roofing crew watch this and said - “that is the prettiest, sweetest, and sexiest woman they saw.” I must agree. You are very impressive…good luck.
Ur stickyness to the rooftop depends on the coefficient of friction of the material times ur force that is applied perpendicular to the roof The magnets are increasing the force by a bit but the coefficient of friction of the tape on metal is way lower than rubber on dry metal so go for something that still has rubber touching the roof Magnetic shoes themselves should only be useful for space applications if at all
I'm pretty sure already gravity accomplishes everything the magnets can accomplish. A heavier person is just as likely if not more likely to have their weight create momentum potential on a steeply angled roof. Magnets strong enough to overcome that potential would be too strong to lift for a step. Clean roof, clean & soft rubber shoes with a minimum of tread. The idea is to "lay down" as much traction as possible on the roof surface like slicks on a race car. One thing you might want to try is a pair of large hinged magnets with a line attached to the hinge area to span the peak of the metal roof as a safety line. I suspect that may be strong enough to stop a slide that had not created enough momentum to overcome the device.
Some cheap rough cut 1x's would do the job. A lot of step pitch roofs have a cable in place permintly run the spine and then a rough cut tread steps at the ends. So you climb up and hook on and it's just for slip and fall safety. Don't know if this helps but it's what I've seen done.
I got a buddy that uses foam to stand/sit on, he even straps some to his shoes for walking on a metal roof. He just uses the type of foam you would get in a chair or mattress topper.
I install metal roofs for a living. What I use is a pair of decent quality basketball shoes. Not 'tennis shoes' or 'sneakers'. Also, clean the metal if you want to walk on it. Dust from the air on a metal roof is slick af.
Hi, I really like this idea, I don't think you should push it aside so quickly. Think of the market, there are people that work on these roof's for a living. My 2 cent's? How about a cheap pair of those ankle high slip on rubber boots that "white collars" wear to keep their $500 shoes dry and shiny. Scuff the soles with 80 grit, clean off the adhesive side of the magnets you have, scuff them up, then super glue them on. I mean the good CI stuff. On the heels too. I think it would be better with magnet to metal contact, rather than having the tape in between? Or maybe a cheap, oversized pair of sandles with adjustable straps so you can put them over any shoes or boots? Kinda like ice cleats only magnetic? Keep up the great work! You get my mind thinking about projects I have with ideas that probably shouldn't work....but do. :)
The word you're looking for is "steep". :-) I think grippy rubber, perhaps bonded with spray-mount adhesive, would be really good. Maybe an old mouse-pad?
Maybe put a really grippy rubber on the heel and tip of the shoes. That way, it can only slip by lifting the other end of the shoe, which will be stuck by the magnet.
I got it! Take the mission impossible approach. Tie a strong cable to trees or whatever so that the cable runs across the peak of the roof. Then tie strong rope around the cable and you. Now you can move all over the roof.
Remember, they laughed at Macaroni when he used his noodle? I was looking for proper foam for metal roof soles when I came across your vid. Personally, I admire anyone who experiments as you do. I ended up just making a ladder. With 6/12 pitch I can barely stand on my metal, so I just sit on the fat rungs, or if I want to go fast I use put one foot on the ladder. Keep using your noodle!
Check out Timberland Pro Barstow Wedge Boots. They are the roofers preferred work boots. The rubber sole is soft and clingy on steep roofs. The classic 5V Crimp metal roofing was nailed at the ridge of the crimp with "Lead Head" nails to seal the dimple on the top of the ridge on overlapping seams and edge ends. Tennis shoes were antiquate to walk on them as long as you stepped on the nail heads for traction.
Add Eye Rings along the top. Then run a rope through it. Find the stickiest shoes you can. Use a dog bone hook to hook up to the rope on top, and work you way around. On the Plexiglas side, Add cross braces the length of the roof. This is something you might have to think about. And you might have to add something below.
Hey Rinoa, I think I have your solution. As we both know, friction is needed to keep from slipping. I just happened to have a sheet of Pro Grade P220 3M sandpaper laying around. I tested it on a hard shiny tile under the weight of my sneaker. It really gripped the tile, without slipping. I believe it will work on your roof footing. The backing on this sandpaper is fairly durable, compared to regular paper. Plus it has a nice purple colored friction side. I'll let you determine the coarseness of the paper and how to attach. I'll just suggest a flat bottom shoe/sandal. As always, I'm grateful for all your videos. ~J
I have a brown painted metal roof on my house. When it’s dry it’s fairly easy to climb on and I can go barefoot or wear shoes. When it’s wet I have to use a towel to stand on if I have to go up there. The towel does apply grip even tho it’s not the best it keeps me from ice skating off of my roof. Metal roofs are great with wood stoves tho because when sparks come out of the chimney they won’t burn the roof.
Been with you for many crap-tacular projects and always rooting for you! for safety on that roof you should have the right boots and a proper fall arrest system. even a makeshift fall restraint system would be better than what's going on here. its quite simple and a lot less painful to implement than you might think. i could show you if you need help. if not for yourself, do it for your Mom. keep up the good work!
no, the fall-harness i made got in the way and actually made things more dangerous. thats how many PPE garments end up working tbh. i got pretty much all the roofing done today without anything, and just being very aware and deliberate and everything went well.
good job I'm glad. properly deployed fall arrest/restraint systems do not increase your likelihood of falling, though they do increase your chances of surviving a slip from up there. be safe!
In the film industry, we say "screw safety". Just use your head and don't do anything you don't feel safe to doing. But I've seen a man climb up a 30 foot pole that was only on a 6 foot base of a stand. If it has to get done, there's always a way. But I would suggest maybe bending some rebar into handle shapes and welding them on the roof if you're gonna be going up there a lot.
Magnet boots reminded me of the movie face off . Paint some primer or non-skid on the roof if you're planning on frequently climbing on it so you don't slide off. The old foam couch cushions inserts also help on steep roofs from sliding when working in an area sitting but doesn't change walking.
As a roofer who installs and repairs both asphalt shingle and steel roofs, I can tell you that the foam pads work 10x as well on shingles. On metal roofs, unless the roof is brand new (same day as install) or just washed/cleaned (same day, dried in the sun)(, the foam pads don't help nearly enough. Even one day's worth of dust and pollen make the roof slippery and the foam ineffective. It even rendered my special Cougar Paw "steel walkers" unusable.
Run a line along the peak of your roof, and have a line attached to you that is attached to that line with a pulley. Make it long enough to be able to reach the full height of the roof. You won’t have any assist with a counterweight but this way if you fell, you wouldn’t fall to the ground.
For grip on dry, moss and algae-free surface roofs like the slate tiles we use in certain parts of europe, nothing beats a pair of rock climber's slipper boots - the flat soles are extremely grippy and give maximum flex. You feel like you can walk up 80 degree slopes with them
Another tip from the climbing world (I used to climb like 30+ years ago) if the ground is wet or damp, wipe your feet on a towel before you start up. I notice the shoes you had on at the end had flat soles (probably with some slits/sipes cut for flexibility - I think you'll be hard pressed to find anything better - maximises the surface area A final tip is before you head on up, have a look around on the ground under where you'll be working. Often you'd survive a slide/fall OK~ish but get killed by being impaled on a fence or railing etc. If that's the case, have a rethink. (and bear in mind that after a long slide you won't just drop vertically down from the eaves, you'll kinda fly off at an angle going further out due to your speed)
Roof Ridge Ladder Hooks. A single or double set of hooks that attaches to your ladder. Flip, use the wheel to help push the ladder up, then flip again and hook over the top of the roof. With the plastic side, suggest the ones with rubber tubes over the ends to protect them some. Should be less than $50 or around that anyway.
Holy Smokes your nuts! Been around Roofing long enough to know this is all a bad idea. Your tie off c clamp will only provide a little bump on your way down. That'll tear right out of the metal. And that wooden A-frame ladder is is what we call a widow maker. You got balls, but spend your time trying different rubber shoes for traction. Either way, crazy I'd call it. I dig it
its a shock to me that youve never seen loony tunes, or known sarcasm. youve almost got the joke, maybe if you think harder you can get a joke that even children could understand.
@@RinoaL Wow, a youtuber who can't even take criticism. Worst kind of youtubers. Instead of focusing on how you can be better, you get butt hurt and reply to all the negative comments.. haha, poorly executed just like your videos.
sadly it does still accumulate on the roof, but with even a slight bit of heat it falls off. so i guess i should just remember to heat it up any time that happens
try using eternabond tape, a wet/dry caulking, or even flex seal and fill the holes from the inside. if you want to fix it from the outside, get some non-slip shoes from walmart.
Good luck on finding a solution for working up on the roof. Most Pro Roofers hate wearing harnesses half my family are roofers and they never wear the harnesses, in so many ways falling off a roof with a harness on is more dangerous, also working on a roof with the harness is more dangerous. Definitely here in Canada people who make the regulations have never been up on a roof in their life.
I like your style I think we must be related I never thought of magnets but did buy some really cheap neoprene kind of like wet suit shoes that have great soles for climbing on the corrugated roof but not for normal walking. I watched this cause I’m about to tackle repairing a very dodgy huge roof and hoping I could pick up some alternative ideas otherwise everything is about safety and no water can I ask anybody to get up on a roof that’s this bad where if I do it myself I don’t risk anybody else’s health.
when in doubt, ask the experts, I googled work boot for metal roof, they make several types of soles especially for working on metal roofs.. grabbing the edges is a good way to slice your hands to ribbons if you fall.. a counter weight works best with a pulley or 2 in the mix
Idle thought: if the magnets alternate direction (checkerboard pattern), and have a steel (or otherwise magnetically-conductive) back-plate, they may actually stick better. What is needed here is less like a strong monolithic magnet, and more like a refrigerator magnet (which typically use alternating polarity with otherwise fairly weak fields). Also, "something more grippy" could help.
shelved for me to 1: build workshop 2: collect parts 3: ponder design ideas and 4: possibly get a better launch/test site. im very interested in rocket projects, and my realization that i need a workshop was mostly fueled by that. lets hope for a good test in january.
Despite the pants, I can clearly see, this woman has a pair of balls on her. Stop thinking dirty, I mean she is very brave to be sliding down a steep metal roof on to an unsteady ladder, lol
So I have a couple of questions....1) How the hell did I get here., and 2) Why do I like this so much?, and 3) Why do I now think that magnet shoes are a thing?, when clearly they are not a thing. I'm really quite confused in life.
If you need to just climb up to the top here is fast solution. Throw a heavy duty rope over the roof so it lands on the ground on the other side. Now attach the rope that landed on the other side to a car, truck or lawn tractor tow hitch and bingo your rope is solid and you can climb safely by just holding on to the rope And no you are not going to pull the car or lawn tractor up the roof.
What about those sticky dash mat things for keeping phones on car dashboards or whatever? Stick those to the bottom of your shoes. Should be quite grippy :)
Loved your video, and think you are pretty cool. I have worked on steep metal roofs before and I found out applying pine tar on your souls every 15 minutes works great. Be careful
My initial thoughts are using skate board grip material instead of the duct tape (keep magnetic idea) and then you could also put the skate board grip on certain pathways of the roof where you walk in the grooves. Only do it every other groove or just certain pathways you would use. This would still give you nice sound when it rains, grip for when you need to get up there and it would add a bit of styling to the roof. Maybe that's all you would need and just wear regular tennis shoes and ditch the magnets. Just thinking out loud....
Fridge magnets act by pressing paper to your fridge and increasing the friction, so this would probably work if you had an additional friction modifier, like rubber of some kind.
Rin, I’m of the mind that a pair of gum rubber sole sneakers and a safety rope/harness that would keep you from reaching the edge would be best for the tasks at hand. Of course you already mentioned the solar panel supports which would serve this purpose as well. Magnetic feet do make a great video though, how about those new gecko inspired gloves and socks? That would be next level cool.
Build a roofing ladder, and tie a rope over the roof and tie it to something to the ground on the far side. Then u can toe the ladder to it, and also have something to grab if you fall off the roof . With heights you can never have enough safety measures
Hi, i did work with magnets and got to say you did undertand a couple thinks alright. The real problem is the thickness of the steel. In your case, not deep enough to close the field. Electromagnet is the answer but as you already understood, grip and attraction power are directly proportional to power supply...
Check out "Pure Living for Life" channel on how they used a ladder system to put on their roofing It may give you some ideas on how to hok up a ladder system.
I've seen professional roofers use real foam rubber from seat cushions. That and bare feet. Dad said that he heard of a carpenter who while sliding off a metal roof, nailed his shirt tail to stop his slide.
@@RinoaL your feet have iron in them, because of all the blood in them. You just need to magnetize the roof enough, and you can safely walk up there barefoot. Also maybe not if you have any metal fillings or rods or staples or whatever. Also it might not work in a way that allows for survival. I don't know how magnets work.
@@RinoaL Get a metric shit ton of strong neod magnets and j.b.weld them up along the walking areas of your metal roof (on the inside of course). Not sure if the strength of your magnets will penetrate your roof but it might be worth a test run on a small piece to see if you can get your boots to adhere to them better (not sure if polarities may become a concern).
I'd make an electronic coil. Use couple transformers, cut them to expose the iron core and the coil, have them run on lithium cells, that way it's capable of being recharged. 👌👍
@@RinoaL If you had high amp lithium cells and toggle switches it would be beneficial. I'd use some circuitry that would probably help with the strain on the batteries.
the hooks on ladders work fine i have used them for doing alot of roofs another way is stacking a few planks and fasten to end of ladder to hook the apex
Put the magnets INSIDE the shoe. This will pull the sole towards the metal creating greater shear friction between the rubber soul and the metal surface.
Just put an anchor in or near to the ground opposite the side you want to go up, tie a rope to it, attach a small weight to the rope and throw it over the shed. Simple safety line, just be sure it doesn't slip off the edge.
well sadly that could damage the clear plastic on the other side. thus i would have done it. furthermore the edge of the roofing is sharp on both sides and snags and cuts the rop.
A truck trailer hitch makes a good tie off. Take the battery cable off if there's anyone around who could drive it. Also there are anchors made specifically for the ridge of the roof nailed into the decking with a ring to tie off. As little as $20 or so.
my next job was to add trim over the top of the peak, thus why i had to find a way to stay up without a rope going over the top. ended up not using any safety gear and got it done in only a few hours.
you could always use your electric tractor like a winch with remote to lossen or slacken the rope holding you as you grip mybe inner tubes cut into bands to act like grippers
To fix your grip shoe problem... Just screw down a bunch of those slip on shoes all over on the roof and you can walk anywhere up there... all ya gotta do is slip in and out of them shoes...... Problem Solved!!!
The solution is a rocker force manipulator. Think of a set of spurs so to speak. They would connect between the toe of your foot, the pivot of your foot, and the heel. Imagine a rocker that transitions the force of the magnets from a slide engagement to a pull engagement. When the heel slides down the roof, the connector transmits the force to the pivot, which the transmits the force to pulling the magnets directly away from the surface of the siding. Magnets work better in peel than they do in shear......There would need to be enough play in the set up to allow adhesion and advancement.......The pivot would need to have a high coefficient of friction (Rubber) so that the force can be transmitted from the shear to the linear force of the magnets.....You might even be able to use a pair of Crocks to aid in Form to Function......
Next video - how to build a wheelchair.
that was actually several years ago, was helping ProfessrX build his high speed wheelchair. not sure how that went.
@@RinoaL Like everyone says, I hope you are careful - that roof is high.
I would always tie off to a secure point (not a clamp) so you cannot fall off.
You can still walk around without using the rope to pull.
It's good you own a harness anyway.
oh dont worry, im actually an extremely careful person. I work about half as slow as most people, but its because im being very deliberate and aware of everything i do. its proven to be the safest way to go tbh.
@@RinoaL Is that why you weld with sandals and emptied acid from a battery into a bucket in shorts and sandals?
you afraid of welding sparks? if i think the sparks get too big i hold a piece of shielding in front of me anyway. my shoes shouldnt be in the line of fire. and i wore sandals for the acid to make it easier to wash off, that is actually safer ya know. cloth would hold the acid up against the skin and make burns longer.
lastly i wear sandals in summer because if i dont, i can more easilly get heat stroke.
Cougar Paws makes a metal roofing boot with magnets in them. They are called Steel Walker and Steel Walker II.
Magnets don't really hold it from sliding very much, you need something with high friction, they sell non-slip mat material in rolls, i'm not sure what its called but I have see it in Walmart I think, its used for anything when you don't want it to slide, it would work really good if you put a layer on the bottom of the shoes, Also they do already make shoes with something similar that is specifically for walking on steep roofs.
Or an electromagnet
Magnet behind silicone membrane or sheet?
how does an electromagnet solve the slipping issue?
The magnet is not to grip itself, but to pull/trap the grip material tight to the surface more so than regular foot pressure would... I would hope, and am fairly sure Rin realises this.
well since i tried different gripping surfaces i think its safe to say i do realize that. lol
Go ahead and install the anchor points for your solar panels and use them to get to peak and make a ladder that primarily goes over the panels so you have a maintenance walk for the panels also ps a eye bolt into the peak would be far safer then trusting a c clamp with your life
yeah the sharp thread on the C-clamp is real bad for the rope too
mountain climbing harness with rope tied to an anchor point on the opposite side or something similar. A friend of mine picked up something called a roofers bucket kit. it came with everything he needed to work on an old house roof. it came packed in a five gallon bucket.
I give you a lot of credit. We need more women like you. My whole roofing crew watch this and said - “that is the prettiest, sweetest, and sexiest woman they saw.” I must agree. You are very impressive…good luck.
Ur stickyness to the rooftop depends on the coefficient of friction of the material times ur force that is applied perpendicular to the roof
The magnets are increasing the force by a bit but the coefficient of friction of the tape on metal is way lower than rubber on dry metal so go for something that still has rubber touching the roof
Magnetic shoes themselves should only be useful for space applications if at all
the tape i first used was rubbery
I'm pretty sure already gravity accomplishes everything the magnets can accomplish. A heavier person is just as likely if not more likely to have their weight create momentum potential on a steeply angled roof. Magnets strong enough to overcome that potential would be too strong to lift for a step. Clean roof, clean & soft rubber shoes with a minimum of tread. The idea is to "lay down" as much traction as possible on the roof surface like slicks on a race car. One thing you might want to try is a pair of large hinged magnets with a line attached to the hinge area to span the peak of the metal roof as a safety line. I suspect that may be strong enough to stop a slide that had not created enough momentum to overcome the device.
Some cheap rough cut 1x's would do the job. A lot of step pitch roofs have a cable in place permintly run the spine and then a rough cut tread steps at the ends. So you climb up and hook on and it's just for slip and fall safety. Don't know if this helps but it's what I've seen done.
I got a buddy that uses foam to stand/sit on, he even straps some to his shoes for walking on a metal roof. He just uses the type of foam you would get in a chair or mattress topper.
If you’re using them to work on roofs you’re going to scratch the roof with micro metal shavings
I install metal roofs for a living. What I use is a pair of decent quality basketball shoes. Not 'tennis shoes' or 'sneakers'.
Also, clean the metal if you want to walk on it. Dust from the air on a metal roof is slick af.
No comment on the incline or boots but the lighting in the new loft is AWESOME!
yeah i love the lighting!
My mom used to make me clean our roof and my nerves were going crazy up there. I appreciate how calm this lady is
I was cringing during this whole video.
that still counts as enjoyment, hope you realize that.
@@RinoaL lol :)
This whole project.
Hi, I really like this idea, I don't think you should push it aside so quickly. Think of the market, there are people that work on these roof's for a living. My 2 cent's? How about a cheap pair of those ankle high slip on rubber boots that "white collars" wear to keep their $500 shoes dry and shiny. Scuff the soles with 80 grit, clean off the adhesive side of the magnets you have, scuff them up, then super glue them on. I mean the good CI stuff. On the heels too. I think it would be better with magnet to metal contact, rather than having the tape in between? Or maybe a cheap, oversized pair of sandles with adjustable straps so you can put them over any shoes or boots? Kinda like ice cleats only magnetic? Keep up the great work! You get my mind thinking about projects I have with ideas that probably shouldn't work....but do. :)
I use an umbilical line and a waist harness on a platform at sea, and when you fall its no big deal just a little tug, but the view is fine.
will we be able to electronically sign your cast when you fall off roof?
glue stick the bottom of your shoes that stuff is kind of grippy.
Rinoa super genius..thank you for reminding me why I became a trauma surgeon. without people like you in the world, I would be without work.
My idea is that you should contact OSHA first and ask them what they think of Magnetic Boots .
why? i believe this is not within OSHA's bailiwick.
The word you're looking for is "steep". :-)
I think grippy rubber, perhaps bonded with spray-mount adhesive, would be really good. Maybe an old mouse-pad?
Maybe put a really grippy rubber on the heel and tip of the shoes. That way, it can only slip by lifting the other end of the shoe, which will be stuck by the magnet.
Could you not use something like the tape they use on skateboards instead of ductape the stuff that feels like sandpaper?
What about these super grippy rubber shoes that the rock climbers use?
oh thats a good idea!
although i think when i paint the roof, it will become easier to walk on.
If you slice the rubber and insert the magnets, you combine both properties.
@@RinoaL you could add some sand to the paint when you paint it for extra grip!
yup, thats what im planning.
I got it!
Take the mission impossible approach.
Tie a strong cable to trees or whatever so that the cable runs across the peak of the roof.
Then tie strong rope around the cable and you.
Now you can move all over the roof.
Between the tippy ladder and the slippy magnetic shoes, please tell me you had a spotter.
thats what the camera is for.
The spotter was knocked out by a big spring
good point, if i had a spotter, theyd need armor
Remember, they laughed at Macaroni when he used his noodle? I was looking for proper foam for metal roof soles when I came across your vid. Personally, I admire anyone who experiments as you do. I ended up just making a ladder. With 6/12 pitch I can barely stand on my metal, so I just sit on the fat rungs, or if I want to go fast I use put one foot on the ladder. Keep using your noodle!
Check out Timberland Pro Barstow Wedge Boots. They are the roofers preferred work boots. The rubber sole is soft and clingy on steep roofs. The classic 5V Crimp metal roofing was nailed at the ridge of the crimp with "Lead Head" nails to seal the dimple on the top of the ridge on overlapping seams and edge ends. Tennis shoes were antiquate to walk on them as long as you stepped on the nail heads for traction.
What if you used like some old tire on your shoes like an old all terrain or snow tire with the magnets? To help it not slide and not stick.
Add Eye Rings along the top. Then run a rope through it. Find the stickiest shoes you can. Use a dog bone hook to hook up to the rope on top, and work you way around. On the Plexiglas side, Add cross braces the length of the roof. This is something you might have to think about. And you might have to add something below.
When I used to build pole barns had the same butthole puckering experience. Till I bought a pair of rock climbing shoes. A world of difference.
Rock climbing shoes much better than decent basketball shoes?
Police buildings is what I've been doing for a living.
Some of the best advice ive ever gotten is as follows...
"Keep it simple, stupid"
I feel that was the Egyptian motto
yeh i try to keep is simple, thus why i ended up not using any safety equipment
Hey Rinoa, I think I have your solution. As we both know, friction is needed to keep from slipping. I just happened to have a sheet of Pro Grade P220 3M sandpaper laying around. I tested it on a hard shiny tile under the weight of my sneaker. It really gripped the tile, without slipping. I believe it will work on your roof footing. The backing on this sandpaper is fairly durable, compared to regular paper. Plus it has a nice purple colored friction side. I'll let you determine the coarseness of the paper and how to attach. I'll just suggest a flat bottom shoe/sandal. As always, I'm grateful for all your videos. ~J
I have a brown painted metal roof on my house. When it’s dry it’s fairly easy to climb on and I can go barefoot or wear shoes. When it’s wet I have to use a towel to stand on if I have to go up there. The towel does apply grip even tho it’s not the best it keeps me from ice skating off of my roof. Metal roofs are great with wood stoves tho because when sparks come out of the chimney they won’t burn the roof.
Been with you for many crap-tacular projects and always rooting for you! for safety on that roof you should have the right boots and a proper fall arrest system. even a makeshift fall restraint system would be better than what's going on here. its quite simple and a lot less painful to implement than you might think. i could show you if you need help. if not for yourself, do it for your Mom. keep up the good work!
no, the fall-harness i made got in the way and actually made things more dangerous. thats how many PPE garments end up working tbh. i got pretty much all the roofing done today without anything, and just being very aware and deliberate and everything went well.
good job I'm glad. properly deployed fall arrest/restraint systems do not increase your likelihood of falling, though they do increase your chances of surviving a slip from up there. be safe!
In the film industry, we say "screw safety". Just use your head and don't do anything you don't feel safe to doing.
But I've seen a man climb up a 30 foot pole that was only on a 6 foot base of a stand. If it has to get done, there's always a way.
But I would suggest maybe bending some rebar into handle shapes and welding them on the roof if you're gonna be going up there a lot.
Try using thin pieces of foam or felt glued to the bottom of your shoes for extra grip
Magnet boots reminded me of the movie face off . Paint some primer or non-skid on the roof if you're planning on frequently climbing on it so you don't slide off. The old foam couch cushions inserts also help on steep roofs from sliding when working in an area sitting but doesn't change walking.
As a roofer who installs and repairs both asphalt shingle and steel roofs, I can tell you that the foam pads work 10x as well on shingles. On metal roofs, unless the roof is brand new (same day as install) or just washed/cleaned (same day, dried in the sun)(, the foam pads don't help nearly enough. Even one day's worth of dust and pollen make the roof slippery and the foam ineffective. It even rendered my special Cougar Paw "steel walkers" unusable.
Why not rubber cement or Shoe Goo for shear force traction?
Run a line along the peak of your roof, and have a line attached to you that is attached to that line with a pulley. Make it long enough to be able to reach the full height of the roof. You won’t have any assist with a counterweight but this way if you fell, you wouldn’t fall to the ground.
they actually make shoes for roofing that stick better than regular street shoes.
For grip on dry, moss and algae-free surface roofs like the slate tiles we use in certain parts of europe, nothing beats a pair of rock climber's slipper boots - the flat soles are extremely grippy and give maximum flex. You feel like you can walk up 80 degree slopes with them
Another tip from the climbing world (I used to climb like 30+ years ago) if the ground is wet or damp, wipe your feet on a towel before you start up.
I notice the shoes you had on at the end had flat soles (probably with some slits/sipes cut for flexibility - I think you'll be hard pressed to find anything better - maximises the surface area
A final tip is before you head on up, have a look around on the ground under where you'll be working. Often you'd survive a slide/fall OK~ish but get killed by being impaled on a fence or railing etc. If that's the case, have a rethink. (and bear in mind that after a long slide you won't just drop vertically down from the eaves, you'll kinda fly off at an angle going further out due to your speed)
You should put some treads up permanently if you are putting up solar panels ,so you can clean them.
Roof Ridge Ladder Hooks. A single or double set of hooks that attaches to your ladder. Flip, use the wheel to help push the ladder up, then flip again and hook over the top of the roof. With the plastic side, suggest the ones with rubber tubes over the ends to protect them some. Should be less than $50 or around that anyway.
Best/safest suggestion I have seen yet.
Holy Smokes your nuts!
Been around Roofing long enough to know this is all a bad idea. Your tie off c clamp will only provide a little bump on your way down. That'll tear right out of the metal. And that wooden A-frame ladder is is what we call a widow maker. You got balls, but spend your time trying different rubber shoes for traction. Either way, crazy I'd call it. I dig it
As for anchoring, a series of roof brackets to use as scaffolding for a ladder so you can build up for your solar panels or whatever.
What if your magetic shoes would work better in space for astronots to fix their ship?
It's a shock to me, that you put super genius in your name...
its a shock to me that youve never seen loony tunes, or known sarcasm. youve almost got the joke, maybe if you think harder you can get a joke that even children could understand.
@@RinoaL Wow, a youtuber who can't even take criticism. Worst kind of youtubers. Instead of focusing on how you can be better, you get butt hurt and reply to all the negative comments.. haha, poorly executed just like your videos.
@@RinoaL Thumbs down on every single video now that I know the immature woman behind them.
High pitch sucks for walking on but the lack of snow accumulation from the increased angle is awesome
sadly it does still accumulate on the roof, but with even a slight bit of heat it falls off. so i guess i should just remember to heat it up any time that happens
try using eternabond tape, a wet/dry caulking, or even flex seal and fill the holes from the inside. if you want to fix it from the outside, get some non-slip shoes from walmart.
Good luck on finding a solution for working up on the roof.
Most Pro Roofers hate wearing harnesses half my family are roofers and they never wear the harnesses, in so many ways falling off a roof with a harness on is more dangerous, also working on a roof with the harness is more dangerous.
Definitely here in Canada people who make the regulations have never been up on a roof in their life.
i ended up doing the work without any safety gear besides my brain. seemed to work fine.
How many is roof pitch this video?
I appreciate you for demo
I like your style I think we must be related I never thought of magnets but did buy some really cheap neoprene kind of like wet suit shoes that have great soles for climbing on the corrugated roof but not for normal walking. I watched this cause I’m about to tackle repairing a very dodgy huge roof and hoping I could pick up some alternative ideas otherwise everything is about safety and no water can I ask anybody to get up on a roof that’s this bad where if I do it myself I don’t risk anybody else’s health.
Eeep! Hanging off that clamp looks really sketchy. Please be careful! :)
Maybe screw in a bracket to use as an anchor?
bracket has to move very easily, but only provide maybe 30lb of holding strength.
Some slip-resistant clogs and a nice abrasion resistant rope thrown over the workshop to hold onto should suffice.
For some extra grip you could maybe put a sock on the outside of the shoe and hot glue some nodes or ribs on the bottom.
when in doubt, ask the experts, I googled work boot for metal roof, they make several types of soles especially for working on metal roofs.. grabbing the edges is a good way to slice your hands to ribbons if you fall.. a counter weight works best with a pulley or 2 in the mix
i have thick leather gloves, difficult to slice them
Use the inside foam of a couch cushion you can climb almost any pitch
Next week bus surfing :-) , I think more rubbery bases on the shoes would help as in it would reduce friction and stuff.
Idle thought: if the magnets alternate direction (checkerboard pattern), and have a steel (or otherwise magnetically-conductive) back-plate, they may actually stick better. What is needed here is less like a strong monolithic magnet, and more like a refrigerator magnet (which typically use alternating polarity with otherwise fairly weak fields). Also, "something more grippy" could help.
yeah ive thought about doing that. tested it but it didnt seem so much better on small scale
Was the rocket engine project abandoned or put on hold?
shelved for me to 1: build workshop 2: collect parts 3: ponder design ideas and 4: possibly get a better launch/test site. im very interested in rocket projects, and my realization that i need a workshop was mostly fueled by that. lets hope for a good test in january.
Industrial suction cups?
Despite the pants, I can clearly see, this woman has a pair of balls on her. Stop thinking dirty, I mean she is very brave to be sliding down a steep metal roof on to an unsteady ladder, lol
So I have a couple of questions....1) How the hell did I get here., and 2) Why do I like this so much?, and 3) Why do I now think that magnet shoes are a thing?, when clearly they are not a thing. I'm really quite confused in life.
they actually are, they sell industrial magnet shoes for roof work
If you need to just climb up to the top here is fast solution. Throw a heavy duty rope over the roof so it lands on the ground on the other side. Now attach the rope that landed on the other side to a car, truck or lawn tractor tow hitch and bingo your rope is solid and you can climb safely by just holding on to the rope And no you are not going to pull the car or lawn tractor up the roof.
Pretty neat idea!
What about those sticky dash mat things for keeping phones on car dashboards or whatever? Stick those to the bottom of your shoes. Should be quite grippy :)
Loved your video, and think you are pretty cool. I have worked on steep metal roofs before and I found out applying pine tar on your souls every 15 minutes works great. Be careful
My initial thoughts are using skate board grip material instead of the duct tape (keep magnetic idea) and then you could also put the skate board grip on certain pathways of the roof where you walk in the grooves. Only do it every other groove or just certain pathways you would use. This would still give you nice sound when it rains, grip for when you need to get up there and it would add a bit of styling to the roof. Maybe that's all you would need and just wear regular tennis shoes and ditch the magnets. Just thinking out loud....
motorcycle fly wheels work great and you prob have a few from your 3 wheelers or maybe toilet plungers
Fridge magnets act by pressing paper to your fridge and increasing the friction, so this would probably work if you had an additional friction modifier, like rubber of some kind.
*the real question is, can she become Spider-Woman?*
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Increase the grip by encasing the bottom of the shoe in "Shoe Goo" in combo with the magnets?
i think i need something more like what geckos have on their feet.
Rin, I’m of the mind that a pair of gum rubber sole sneakers and a safety rope/harness that would keep you from reaching the edge would be best for the tasks at hand. Of course you already mentioned the solar panel supports which would serve this purpose as well.
Magnetic feet do make a great video though, how about those new gecko inspired gloves and socks? That would be next level cool.
Build a roofing ladder, and tie a rope over the roof and tie it to something to the ground on the far side. Then u can toe the ladder to it, and also have something to grab if you fall off the roof . With heights you can never have enough safety measures
If you drop yourself from the roof that clamp basically works as a can opener.
I like watching your videos they're interesting And #ILiveInMaine in the USA Keep up the good work
A standard roofing ladder has a big curved hook at the top :)
Hi, i did work with magnets and got to say you did undertand a couple thinks alright.
The real problem is the thickness of the steel. In your case, not deep enough to close the field.
Electromagnet is the answer but as you already understood, grip and attraction power are directly proportional to power supply...
I would get a bunch of screw eyes and screw them into the roof so i could tie on.. just incase... that roof is steep!
Check out "Pure Living for Life" channel on how they used a ladder system to put on their roofing It may give you some ideas on how to hok up a ladder system.
good rubber grip best...dust bigest problem...spray with water hose before work.
I've seen professional roofers use real foam rubber from seat cushions. That and bare feet. Dad said that he heard of a carpenter who while sliding off a metal roof, nailed his shirt tail to stop his slide.
that was quick thinking. lol
We always kept a roofing hatchet and if you were about to take that quick ride down just stab it through the roof. Works on metal or shingles
Instead of magnetizing the boots, magnetize the roof.
to stick to me feet? what?
@@RinoaL your feet have iron in them, because of all the blood in them.
You just need to magnetize the roof enough, and you can safely walk up there barefoot.
Also maybe not if you have any metal fillings or rods or staples or whatever.
Also it might not work in a way that allows for survival.
I don't know how magnets work.
@@RinoaL Get a metric shit ton of strong neod magnets and j.b.weld them up along the walking areas of your metal roof (on the inside of course). Not sure if the strength of your magnets will penetrate your roof but it might be worth a test run on a small piece to see if you can get your boots to adhere to them better (not sure if polarities may become a concern).
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I'd make an electronic coil. Use couple transformers, cut them to expose the iron core and the coil, have them run on lithium cells, that way it's capable of being recharged. 👌👍
they get very very hot though
@@RinoaL
If you had high amp lithium cells and toggle switches it would be beneficial. I'd use some circuitry that would probably help with the strain on the batteries.
the hooks on ladders work fine i have used them for doing alot of roofs another way is stacking a few planks and fasten to end of ladder to hook the apex
I think the best solution is make a special L shaped ladder what you said. easy to make cheap and you can remove it and disassemble. :)
Put the magnets INSIDE the shoe. This will pull the sole towards the metal creating greater shear friction between the rubber soul and the metal surface.
mount some lateral wood rails across the roof you can remove when done.
well id like a more permanent solution if i can.
@@RinoaL just a runner to catch you while your on the roof.
Just put an anchor in or near to the ground opposite the side you want to go up, tie a rope to it, attach a small weight to the rope and throw it over the shed. Simple safety line, just be sure it doesn't slip off the edge.
well sadly that could damage the clear plastic on the other side. thus i would have done it. furthermore the edge of the roofing is sharp on both sides and snags and cuts the rop.
A truck trailer hitch makes a good tie off. Take the battery cable off if there's anyone around who could drive it. Also there are anchors made specifically for the ridge of the roof nailed into the decking with a ring to tie off. As little as $20 or so.
my next job was to add trim over the top of the peak, thus why i had to find a way to stay up without a rope going over the top. ended up not using any safety gear and got it done in only a few hours.
you could always use your electric tractor like a winch with remote to lossen or slacken the rope holding you as you grip mybe inner tubes cut into bands to act like grippers
You need gummy worm shoes :-)
To fix your grip shoe problem... Just screw down a bunch of those slip on shoes all over on the roof and you can walk anywhere up there... all ya gotta do is slip in and out of them shoes...... Problem Solved!!!
omg!!!
You need grippy shoos & some sort of harnase system.
You could try skateboard grip tape on the bottom of your shoes.
Rinoa, you're an Uber cool gal, but I'd hate to see you getting yourself harmed, please don't do this kind of experiments.
i only do safe experiments, dont worry.
Sooooo When does the County Building Inspector RED TAG this So called Workshop for Many Code Violations????
never
The solution is a rocker force manipulator. Think of a set of spurs so to speak. They would connect between the toe of your foot, the pivot of your foot, and the heel. Imagine a rocker that transitions the force of the magnets from a slide engagement to a pull engagement. When the heel slides down the roof, the connector transmits the force to the pivot, which the transmits the force to pulling the magnets directly away from the surface of the siding. Magnets work better in peel than they do in shear......There would need to be enough play in the set up to allow adhesion and advancement.......The pivot would need to have a high coefficient of friction (Rubber) so that the force can be transmitted from the shear to the linear force of the magnets.....You might even be able to use a pair of Crocks to aid in Form to Function......
thats actually a good idea, uses lever action to act like a clamp. but i think thatd be adding too much complexity
how about a helmet with wings
Cougar paw makes a magnetic boot Sole and boot for working on metal roofs