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    San Francisco
    July 6th, 2013
    A Boeing triple seven carrying over 300 people begins sinking towards the water, on its final approach to San Francisco. The passengers are oblivious to the danger they are in, but the pilots are confused about why their aircraft isn’t responding. Horrified onlookers watch as the massive plane desperately tries to climb. The captain slams the throttle levers fully forwards, but has he done this soon enough to save the plane?
    This is the story of Asiana Airlines flight 214.
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  • @GreenDotAviation
    @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +94

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    • @XAMEREN
      @XAMEREN 3 місяці тому +20

      Quite a spyware

    • @dragon21gaming98
      @dragon21gaming98 3 місяці тому +4

      im using opera to watch this video !

    • @xcvbnm98765
      @xcvbnm98765 3 місяці тому +2

      @@XAMERENthe spyware story has been debunked by OrdinaryGamers😊

    • @XAMEREN
      @XAMEREN 3 місяці тому +1

      @@xcvbnm98765 When exactly does he say that "No, OperaGX is not spyware"

    • @xcvbnm98765
      @xcvbnm98765 3 місяці тому +2

      @@XAMEREN watch the video, especially the „chinese spyware” part

  • @jahterminatedlmao5473
    @jahterminatedlmao5473 3 місяці тому +1264

    this is tragic but also embarrassing that with 4 pilots in the cockpit, they messed up in perfect landing conditions

    • @Muha.b2
      @Muha.b2 3 місяці тому +72

      The monitoring pilot kept issuing callouts about speed and sink rate.

    • @Hugo5t1gl1tz
      @Hugo5t1gl1tz 3 місяці тому +36

      It’s wild just how many air accidents are pilot error.

    • @katsbreez
      @katsbreez 3 місяці тому +44

      Yeah, it's a scary thought that no one was dialed in. *I think there were only 3 pilots in the cockpit at the time of the crash. (9:08) The 4th was in the cabin & I'll bet he was the one of the 4 who was injured.

    • @genericereal
      @genericereal 3 місяці тому +19

      @@Nick_Reece Seems this is more of a lesson in how easy it can be to become complacent--both pilots were quite experienced, even on other planes (i.e. not the 777), but still were able to make basic errors in judgment; this is a theme common in not online commercial airline accidents, but basically any accident involving complex systems. Moreover, as this video showed, one of those errors was actually because of the pilot's experience with the Airbus and lack of experience with the Boeing--his instinct upon approach was to pitch the nose up instead of pushing the throttle because that would have worked on the Airbus that he was accustomed to.

    • @freemanol
      @freemanol 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@Nick_Reecewell as mentioned in the video, the glide slope wasn't working

  • @emmaxop3613
    @emmaxop3613 3 місяці тому +83

    I'm honestly amazed by how easily this situation could've been avoided.

    • @CrazyPanda688
      @CrazyPanda688 3 місяці тому +8

      And to think these are TRAINED pilots on board ignoring basic protocol
      I’m not a pilot yet I was screaming at my screen for them to go around miles before they even realised what the hell was going on. And even then they didn’t realise what was going on until they were 100ft above the ground. Beyond comprehension
      How do such experienced pilots make such bad decisions?

    • @muls9571
      @muls9571 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@CrazyPanda688 relying too much on automation probably did it

    • @martinqizeaq
      @martinqizeaq 3 місяці тому +1

      Some seniors have a mindset of letting the trainee do the work and them watching and observing.

  • @Americarunsonduncan
    @Americarunsonduncan 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video. The graphics get better each time!

  • @OG-Productions
    @OG-Productions 3 місяці тому +2

    Great video, about the crash that became a literal meme.

  • @ylvb999
    @ylvb999 3 місяці тому

    watched 3 of your videos when i was on a flight yesterday

  • @rossmurrayfam1568
    @rossmurrayfam1568 3 місяці тому

    i watch thease while flying, its Great

  • @Oz1k
    @Oz1k 3 місяці тому

    another amazing video, can't wait for more!

  • @tylerlee328
    @tylerlee328 3 місяці тому

    Not emphasizing your pilots skills to actually fly the plane is so wild to me

  • @achihabhalib7435
    @achihabhalib7435 22 дні тому +1

    21:01 aviation equivalence of 'bruh'

  • @ytlongbeach
    @ytlongbeach 3 місяці тому +1

    pitching up to increase speed... damn. totally relying on the automated system to spool up the engines when pitched up.

  • @islippedtheslime
    @islippedtheslime 3 місяці тому +1425

    My goodness, your editing skills have gotten so much better than a year ago! You will continue to be my favorite aviation channel. Bravo!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +215

      Thank you! That's exactly what we're going for. A year from now the videos should look better still 🚀🟢

    • @mikeml9992
      @mikeml9992 3 місяці тому +73

      A year from now they’re getting tom cruise to reenact these events 😂

    • @gintoni
      @gintoni 3 місяці тому +7

      was about to say the same thing!

    • @XAMEREN
      @XAMEREN 3 місяці тому +15

      @@GreenDotAviation To be honest, there probably isnt a person who dislikes your editing style. Its just so good

    • @takahashi2852
      @takahashi2852 3 місяці тому +11

      Me listening to pretty much all of the videos on the background: Yes, I agree

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 3 місяці тому +1332

    These pilots managed to crash a perfectly functional aircraft short of the runway during the day, in perfect weather and with no wind issues. Absolutely unforgivable airmanship.

    • @kirjuschaks
      @kirjuschaks 3 місяці тому +48

      There are probably 2 unemployed more😂 Luck for the captain, if he does not go to prison

    • @Passions
      @Passions 3 місяці тому +106

      "pilots" lol, more like button mashers

    • @Aviation_guy
      @Aviation_guy 3 місяці тому +7

      @@Passions how do you mean button mashers?

    • @hilman94
      @hilman94 3 місяці тому +113

      @@Aviation_guy sorry to say, asiana also played role here, as they enforced automation instead of airmanship... so they made their crews more as "button mashers" and not pilots that fly the airplanes...

    • @BrownDaddy007
      @BrownDaddy007 3 місяці тому +13

      @@kirjuschaks Both pilots returned to work within a week, as ground staff. They are probably retired by now.

  • @christianbache4074
    @christianbache4074 3 місяці тому +338

    Its just unexplainable how the crew didnt choose to do a go around here. Especially at 500 feet,but also before this point.

    • @huh481
      @huh481 3 місяці тому +15

      Get-there-itis might’ve played a small factor here

    • @dickfitswell3437
      @dickfitswell3437 3 місяці тому +1

      They didn't know how because Asiana didn't teach them. They were taught to use automation at almost all times. They now know how to FLY the plane but not then and it was per policy

    • @TheLucanicLord
      @TheLucanicLord 3 місяці тому +15

      If you're too high, you get another try.
      If you're too low, you don't get another go.

    • @jeffbguarino
      @jeffbguarino 2 місяці тому +4

      When you are tired , your brain stops working. The student pilot getting his certification would have probably failed and the training pilot was not doing his job either. Who knows, why. The third guy was probably tired also and maybe didn't want to speak up and it all happened too quickly. So maybe it is a cultural thing where no one wants to rock the boat.

    • @creepynutsrl
      @creepynutsrl 2 місяці тому

      thats what happens when a company makes their employees so insecure of their abilities to the point that they blackout and dont know what to do.

  • @TheSateef
    @TheSateef 3 місяці тому +513

    "the crew were high and fast, the last place you'd want to be on any approach!", i'd say low and slow is the last place

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +126

      Absolutely true

    • @kubauhlir1730
      @kubauhlir1730 3 місяці тому +15

      At that point? Not really. Low and slow is solved by increasing speed for a bit. High and fast is a problem

    • @TheLukaszpg
      @TheLukaszpg 3 місяці тому +8

      High fast is a problem. Low and slow you always have power.

    • @whophd
      @whophd 3 місяці тому +19

      @@TheLukaszpgHigh and fast you always have speed brakes and rudder tricks

    • @gernhard.reinholdsen
      @gernhard.reinholdsen 3 місяці тому +44

      ​@@kubauhlir1730 if you're high and fast, just go around???

  • @orangebleach
    @orangebleach 3 місяці тому +353

    one of my favourite things about those videos (writing and editing skills aside - they are immaculate) - the community. how thankful everyone is for those videos. thank you green dot!

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +25

      It's really cool to see! Glad you're liking them ✈️

    • @The-Cat
      @The-Cat 3 місяці тому +1

      bot comment detected

    • @orangebleach
      @orangebleach 3 місяці тому +4

      @@The-Cat huh?? i've literally been watching every single green dot video and finally decided to write a comment... only to be accused of being a bot :( i promise you i am not and i'm just actually admiring the channel's work.

    • @The-Cat
      @The-Cat 3 місяці тому

      @@orangebleach 🤣 You've passed the bot test ✅

    • @orangebleach
      @orangebleach 3 місяці тому

      @@The-Cat yay i guess!! haha

  • @Lemjj
    @Lemjj 3 місяці тому +145

    Crazy how 4 decently experienced pilot could ignore so many errors that a student pilot would notice

    • @conny.rapp.tattoo
      @conny.rapp.tattoo 3 місяці тому +15

      PPL-A Student here, watched it right after a to/ldg exercise lesson. 😅 Feels weird noticing what two experienced captains and a f/o didn't catch SPEEDBRAKES DAMMIT SPEEDBRAKES

    • @RAAFLightning1
      @RAAFLightning1 3 місяці тому +37

      welcome to korean culture, do not argue with your superior, even if they send you to an early grave...

    • @noseboop4354
      @noseboop4354 2 місяці тому

      @@RAAFLightning1 At the rate their population is declining, there won't be any korean culture left within a few generations.

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 2 місяці тому +6

      They don’t fly anymore, they push buttons

    • @steveperreira5850
      @steveperreira5850 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RAAFLightning1: I believe you!

  • @niccolamachiaveski7743
    @niccolamachiaveski7743 3 місяці тому +38

    I remember this crash. I flew into SanFran the day before with Delta. As we were landing, we suddenly went back up into the air. It freaked me out! I can't remember who he was anymore but the guy next to me had experience with planes or something... I guess he noticed I was confused and he actually said to me that the runway was doing some construction/repairs and he just explained a bunch of stuff about how planes land and why it might have taken back up suddenly and why were were fine. The next day, I woke up and saw the crash on Korean news. I just kept thinking about the things the conversation with the guy on the plane.

  • @kaitai5900
    @kaitai5900 3 місяці тому +16

    Basically, these guys were incompetent through and through. I am a 777 pilot with over 8,000 hours on the aircraft. Still currently on it out of SFO. All a competent pilot needs on a clear sky day is his eyeballs, and airspeed. That is it. As soon as he realizes the glide slope was inoperative (after missing that fact on the ATIS), use Vertical Speed while on autopilot and put the green arc on the runway threshold on the navigation depiction. Better yet, just click the AP off and manually fly the yoke and throttles. Easy.
    These Korean pilots do not know how to manually fly an aircraft without automation. Think about that for a moment. Absurd.
    This is developing world pilot training and qualification requirements problem. OpSpecs of most outside US airlines have “must”use autopilot requirements down to 200’ AGL above touchdown and at 100”AGL on take off. I hate to say it, but Europe is like this as well. Also very rare to have military trained airline pilots outside the US. We (former military pilots) have all kinds of hands on manual flying experience and continue to hand fly aircraft below 5,000 ft most of the time.
    These guys are an embarrassment to airline pilots in general, Koreans, and Asiana Airlines.

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Місяць тому

      Wouldn't it make more sense to use FPA mode?

    • @therocinante3443
      @therocinante3443 14 днів тому +1

      You're questioning an ex-military pilot with 8,000 hrs in the 777 lol

  • @Klearith
    @Klearith 3 місяці тому +202

    Perfect timing. I love listening to you talk about aviation accidents while baking 😂

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +47

      🥐✈️

    • @TheSixYardBox
      @TheSixYardBox 3 місяці тому +15

      That's a much better idea than watching one of these whilst sat on a Boeing 😂

    • @yangzhang2158
      @yangzhang2158 3 місяці тому +11

      @@GreenDotAviation Air France in emoji

    • @Robert-Downey-Syndrome
      @Robert-Downey-Syndrome 3 місяці тому +8

      I'm baking too 😅 💨

    • @KittyKate975
      @KittyKate975 3 місяці тому +7

      For me, it's any kind of cleaning. This time around, I needed to completely redo my ferret cage 😂

  • @desmond-hawkins
    @desmond-hawkins 3 місяці тому +83

    It's really surprising that there were "only" 3 fatalities given what this plane went through once it was close to the ground (one of them being from the SFFD accident). The video of the crash from an airport building where you can see the aircraft flipping around showed how violent the crash was, and even with all this tumbling only one person inside died.

    • @richardshiggins704
      @richardshiggins704 3 місяці тому +9

      In fact one of the fatalities was that of a Chinese student possibly run over by an attending fire truck .

    • @desmond-hawkins
      @desmond-hawkins 3 місяці тому +23

      @@richardshiggins704 Yes, that's who I was referring to by "the SFFD accident", SFFD is the San Francisco Fire Department. It was a mess. Even though there were some inconsistent reports initially, there is now no doubt that she was run over. SFFD described it as a "tragic accident" and said the passenger "was alive and lying outside the plane near one of its wings when the trucks ran over her". The parents sued, but somehow the case was settled without a payment. The firefighter who was driving the accident truck sued the city for being made a scapegoat instead of SFFD taking responsibility for the overall botched response, and he settled for $250k.

    • @Passions
      @Passions 3 місяці тому +8

      @@desmond-hawkins There's no doubt she was run over, however the question is whether or not she was alive prior to being run over. SF covered it up stating she was deceased already. However the city coroner said she was alive. An autopsy determined that she died from "multiple blunt injuries that are consistent with being run over by a motor vehicle. Our forensic examination revealed that she was still alive when she received those injuries". Also the case was settled with an undisclosed monetary payment. An attorney for Ye’s family, Gretchen Nelson, said the parties had reached “a confidential settlement on mutually agreeable terms,”

    • @desmond-hawkins
      @desmond-hawkins 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Passions Ah yes I remember these disagreements over whether she was still alive. I'm not where you're getting the "undisclosed monetary payment" though, where is that from? In an article about the lawsuit being dropped, which cites the same "mutually agreeable terms" quote as you did, they report: "The city attorney's office said no money was paid to the family to dismiss their lawsuit".

    • @LynneWilliams-bi1tx
      @LynneWilliams-bi1tx 2 місяці тому +2

      Well, may that "only one person died," rest in peace! My condolenses to his/her family. 😢❤❤❤

  • @pablorubio8287
    @pablorubio8287 3 місяці тому +160

    I'm blown away by the quality of this video. I'm not yet finished watching but I felt like I had to say this. And those night shots of the 777 reminded me of another recent video...

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +23

      I'm glad! And I know what you mean - I thought the same as I was finalising the video

    • @patrickunderwood5662
      @patrickunderwood5662 3 місяці тому +2

      Please explain!

    • @pablorubio8287
      @pablorubio8287 3 місяці тому +4

      @@patrickunderwood5662 The night shots of the 777-200 reminded me of the MH370 video. Especially the interior shots. I was thinking “I don’t know if they’re in better hands than with Zaharie”💀

  • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
    @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 місяці тому +29

    Pilots dont disturb passangers, passangers are typically excited to see pilots, theres no reason to keep the relief crew cramped in the cockpit.

  • @janTasita
    @janTasita 3 місяці тому +63

    I know there's a lot going in the cockpit during a descent, and they were probably fatigued, but I find it baffling that someone could move the power back to idle and then a few minutes later think "why is the power not increasing" but not make any attempt to increase the power.

    • @t5ruxlee210
      @t5ruxlee210 2 місяці тому +10

      "Shame culture" is a very powerful incentive to avoid getting to grips with any deadly errors involving oneself as well as the mistakes being made by one's peers. The decision to "Go Round" should have been priority ONE and a lesson in proper airmanship for all concerned.

    • @johnhanson9245
      @johnhanson9245 2 місяці тому

      He thought that auto throttles were engaged

    • @stephendavis6066
      @stephendavis6066 2 місяці тому +3

      They expected the automatic response of autopilot instead of actually flying the aircraft...

    • @britix1858
      @britix1858 2 місяці тому +2

      @@stephendavis6066even then, if he was looking on his speed, he would also see the "HOLD" sign on his flight computer and if he didn’t get responds from the autothrottle, he should have probably disconnected it or atleast put it into HOLD mode.

    • @elina35462
      @elina35462 2 місяці тому +3

      @@stephendavis6066 if the automatics aren't doing what's wanted of them and the correct response is to disconnect and get in a safe position to see what happened (in this case, go around) and then attempt the approach again. A go around doesn't hurt, not doing it does kill people

  • @superweedenjoyer
    @superweedenjoyer 3 місяці тому +53

    This channel continues to pump out extremely high quality content, nice work. Always a delight when I see your posts on my feed

  • @iaretzeee
    @iaretzeee 3 місяці тому +39

    the quality of the animations have gotten so much better, absolutely love the way you narrate and explain little details - love the content, please never stop

  • @theHDRflightdeck
    @theHDRflightdeck 3 місяці тому +62

    The cabin crew did an OUTSTANDING job that day. They were the real heroes.

  • @jebdunkins6796
    @jebdunkins6796 3 місяці тому +12

    Captain Sum Ting Wong
    Wi Tu Lo
    Ho Lee Fuk
    Bang Ding Ow

  • @xhighway999
    @xhighway999 3 місяці тому +48

    I had to pause the video to catch the subtle camera shake at 14:06. Man, your editing skills are getting better with every video!

  • @seanpellegrino2989
    @seanpellegrino2989 3 місяці тому +29

    When your videos drop I stop all activities until I'm done watching them.

  • @Cockatielcreation
    @Cockatielcreation 3 місяці тому +36

    WAKE UP GUYS GREEN DOT ASIANA 214 VID DROPPED!??!? (the quality?!)

  • @EZY413
    @EZY413 3 місяці тому +249

    I still remember when the “names of the flight crew” was leaked to the news and the lady reading the names out, you must admit it was funny af

  • @demigodfangirl721
    @demigodfangirl721 Місяць тому +6

    A perfect example of why pilots should be PILOTS and not comupter operators

    • @DG-mi2mc
      @DG-mi2mc 19 днів тому

      100% incompetence

  • @Aethelhald
    @Aethelhald 3 місяці тому +30

    You've made all the other plane channels obsolete. Like there's just no reason to watch them anymore unless they cover something you haven't covered yet. It's impressive what you've done with this channel. Well done. Especially your MH370 video. I recommended your channel to my mum and she's an addict now.

    • @ARandom777
      @ARandom777 3 місяці тому +7

      I'd personally put Mentour Pilot with Green Dot as well. Mentour's channel is awesome with discussing accidents too. He has the best and most detailed video on Air France 447 today. He and Green Dot indeed makes many other aviation channel that discuss accidents obsolete.

    • @CrimeApexOfficial
      @CrimeApexOfficial 3 місяці тому +1

      ​​@CoasterGuy787 LEMMiNO's Maylasia Airplane crash video was also good, as it used a lot of actual photos, although the animations were nowhere near as good as Mentour Pilot and Green Dot Aviation

    • @SebSN-y3f
      @SebSN-y3f 3 місяці тому +3

      ​​​​@@ARandom777 the analyses from Kelsey from 74 Gear and Hoover from Pilot Debrief are also very, very good. But yes, Petter from Mentour and GreenDot are really great.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 місяці тому

      Airspace was better but hes gone back to being a pilot.

    • @conny.rapp.tattoo
      @conny.rapp.tattoo 3 місяці тому

      ​@@ARandom777 also, DisasterBreakdown is top notch!

  • @nadineb2726
    @nadineb2726 3 місяці тому +65

    Always so thorough. Much appreciated, congratulations on your success it's well-deserved. ✈️

  • @dolandump
    @dolandump 3 місяці тому +29

    Thanks for the videos! I wish you all the best for your flying exams.

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +5

      Thank you 🙏

    • @SebSN-y3f
      @SebSN-y3f 3 місяці тому

      ​@@GreenDotAviation also from here: have great success! You will do it great!

  • @annanymous03
    @annanymous03 3 місяці тому +48

    Stumbled upon your channel a few days ago pretty much by accident. I lived in Ireland for half a year when I was 15 and I still miss it 5 years later, so hearing your accent really caught me and sent me down memory lane. I think I‘ve watched about 10 of you videos now and I‘m staying for the amazing storytelling, analysis and breakdown!

    • @RobertCunningham-pf9tg
      @RobertCunningham-pf9tg 3 місяці тому +3

      Just a beautiful land indeed. The land of my ancestors 😉✌️

  • @Icy_isotope
    @Icy_isotope 3 місяці тому +18

    Another banger in just 2 weeks
    Let's go
    It's great that you can post more often now
    Awesome work man

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! It's a lot of work for us but worth it

  • @proudinfidel7791
    @proudinfidel7791 2 місяці тому +4

    Although there is nothing amusing about a plane crash, I still can't help but think of the dude that pranked that TV news channel by posing as some official from the NTSB on the phone. The phony, and hilarious pilots names he gave the station were actually reported on the air as: Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk, and Bang Ding Ow. Pissed them off something terrible when they realized they'd been had. Absolutely CLASSIC!

  • @ReasonQuest
    @ReasonQuest 3 місяці тому +14

    I've watched many videos about this incident. YOUR video has provided SO MUCH more information than I've ever seen about this. Thank you.

  • @skies6546
    @skies6546 3 місяці тому +9

    Just wanna say thanks. Ur the reason i got into aviation

  • @andrewthomson
    @andrewthomson 3 місяці тому +1

    One slight correction to your video: the pilots names as reported were: Bang Ding Ow, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk, and Capt. Sum Ting Wong.
    Let's just give a little hat tip to the NTSB employee who leaked these names in the early hours of the investigation in order to mock journalists. They were truly ahead of their time in terms of disdain for traditional media.

  • @jocax188723
    @jocax188723 3 місяці тому +76

    Not sure which is more outrageous; the fact that the news coverage of the crash was used to make racist name jokes, or the fact that one of the passengers thrown from the aircraft on impact survived, and was subsequently immediately killed by a rescue vehicle running her over.

    • @RobertCunningham-pf9tg
      @RobertCunningham-pf9tg 3 місяці тому +33

      I think it is VERY OBVIOUS which is more outrageous !! The young lady that was killed by the rescue vehicle is orders of magnitude more outrageous than someone's use of words !!!! It's hard to believe that you would even make a comparison of the two. Wth !? Really ?

    • @Talonflame33
      @Talonflame33 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@RobertCunningham-pf9tgI think she was already dead when she was ran over

    • @skullsaintdead
      @skullsaintdead 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@RobertCunningham-pf9tg She was covered in firefighting foam & couldn't be seen, the firies were rushing obvs to stop the fire & save lives, why would you think that what happened was anything other than a tragic accident..?

    • @RobertCunningham-pf9tg
      @RobertCunningham-pf9tg 3 місяці тому +7

      @@skullsaintdead l agree totally that it was a terrible accident. I was differentiating between the comparison of her death and someone's words. To me there's no comparison which is more tragic. That's the way the comparison was stated, and to me it was just ludicrous.

    • @RobertCunningham-pf9tg
      @RobertCunningham-pf9tg 3 місяці тому +4

      @@Talonflame33 Idk ? I was just commenting on the comparison of the 2 issues brought up in the post. To me, there's no comparison between losing a life and someone's words. That was my takeaway.

  • @NayTableIguess
    @NayTableIguess Місяць тому +5

    2:49 bong dong won 😂😂😂

  • @Poochipup
    @Poochipup Місяць тому +2

    So both pilots were unfamiliar with this aircraft? Why wouldn't 1 of them be experienced with this boeing? 3 pilots and not 1 could figure it out 😮. This Boeing and the Airbus they were use to are not the same. Thank God the flight attendant didn't listen to the pilot more concerned about the planes condition and took care of getting the passengers out. So tragic 3 didn't make it 😢.

  • @michaelcrossley4716
    @michaelcrossley4716 3 місяці тому +41

    Oh yes, good ole Captain Sum Ting Wong and First Officer We Tu Lo.

    • @martinbrink6711
      @martinbrink6711 3 місяці тому +8

      I was looking for this comment!

    • @johnhanson9245
      @johnhanson9245 2 місяці тому +1

      Still funny

    • @bob456fk6
      @bob456fk6 2 місяці тому +2

      This report by a TV station was so funny because several people on the news team didn't recognize this very common joke that American kids learn at an early age. I think several people got fired for this.
      I think the original TV broadcast is on UA-cam.

    • @michaelcrossley4716
      @michaelcrossley4716 2 місяці тому +1

      @@johnhanson9245 the greatest troll of all time.

  • @lisajeter9511
    @lisajeter9511 3 місяці тому +2

    All those names having jokes made of them was so disrespectful not to say I didn’t laugh back in the day. But disrespectful all the same. The most horrendous part is the woman getting run over by the Emergency vehicle.

  • @DeTAYL.
    @DeTAYL. 3 місяці тому +14

    I worked for an airline at SFO and remember this event like it was yesterday. We were all completely in shock of what had just occurred. I remember that plane, due to the investigation that would happen afterwards, stayed in that same spot near the runway for weeks.

  • @clarkchambers9992
    @clarkchambers9992 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent video! Thank you for using a real voice and not AI. So much better that way.

  • @caab0516
    @caab0516 3 місяці тому +7

    Your videos were always great but these ones in the recent year have just been truly perfect

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому

      Glad you think so!

    • @caab0516
      @caab0516 3 місяці тому

      @@GreenDotAviation i hope you do too, you can be very proud of your work

  • @mohammedahmed5069
    @mohammedahmed5069 2 місяці тому +2

    I was scheduled to fly on this plane when I was 5...we canceled our tickets a couple days before.

  • @BlairAir
    @BlairAir 3 місяці тому +7

    Awesome to see this on a quiet Saturday afternoon. Timing for one of your explanation of this fligh is just about perfect!

  • @murdockdacoon2055
    @murdockdacoon2055 3 місяці тому +2

    I have worked avionics on the b-1b in my youth and have continued to work avionics to this day on helis. I'm nearing 50 and set to retire soon. As the world gets dumber and more things become automated for the masses. Expect more and more crashes like this in the air and in your cars. No one has the brains required any more to keep you safe. They all rely on the automation to do their jobs.

  • @zabrid5942
    @zabrid5942 3 місяці тому +16

    Hopping on a plane in about an hour, gotta make sure I’m sufficiently irrationally nervous (:

    • @mattsan70
      @mattsan70 3 місяці тому

      did you survive?

    • @a_life_of_aviation
      @a_life_of_aviation 3 місяці тому

      @@mattsan70 really can’t say that when they are still in the air.

    • @douggale5962
      @douggale5962 3 місяці тому +1

      No response. Looks like they crashed. Oh well.

    • @fatrat6988
      @fatrat6988 3 місяці тому +1

      Did u survive?

  • @kerenmohadeb9403
    @kerenmohadeb9403 3 місяці тому +3

    I got really into these videos bc of how interesting they were about a year ago only to find myself (a psych student) absolutely obsessed with them!! Not only are they amazingly written and edited but I also love the approach with which you think about these videos because they raise awareness about the psychological processes that underlie human behavior, leading to a chain effect that also impacts the other people present. Never thought these topics could be so related!! Keep up the good work👏👏

    • @GreenDotAviation
      @GreenDotAviation  3 місяці тому +1

      That’s exactly why I find these incidents so interesting. These are ultimately stories about human psychology

  • @SayaAensland
    @SayaAensland 3 місяці тому +1

    29:10-29:36 When the flight attendants are the only competent members of the crew, you know something's wrong with your company.

  • @bikstoopy
    @bikstoopy 3 місяці тому +7

    DAMN THOSE GRAPHICS! your video quality has imrpoved greatly!

    • @Pilot_Jeff
      @Pilot_Jeff 3 місяці тому +2

      its msfs with the new pmdg 777.

    • @EthansAviation_
      @EthansAviation_ 3 місяці тому

      @@Pilot_JeffPMDG hasn’t released their 777-200 yet.

    • @Pilot_Jeff
      @Pilot_Jeff 2 місяці тому

      @@EthansAviation_ true, but it does look like msfs

    • @EthansAviation_
      @EthansAviation_ 2 місяці тому

      @@Pilot_Jeff he may have used the captain sim B772 in the exterior shots but used the pmdg B773 in the interior shots

    • @Pilot_Jeff
      @Pilot_Jeff 2 місяці тому

      @@EthansAviation_ yes that would make sense, after all the captain sim exterior isnt that bad

  • @roach3286
    @roach3286 3 місяці тому +4

    these videos are really good! i also appreciate the visuals and explanations on how the systems work

  • @Larry-mk9ry
    @Larry-mk9ry 3 місяці тому +1

    There's no excuse for 1 hour private pilot to let their speed decay on approach on a beautiful CAVOK day, much less 3 professional pilots.
    The one excuse which has any validity is the company's de-training via excess use of automation and lack of recurrent training just flying the plane (now called hand-flying). Even so, airspeed (AOA to be exact) is life and you can't automate that fact away. No matter what else is on your mind, you keep a margin above stall speed at every altitude, in every config. Sure, we're all susceptible to body-clock issues, but airspeed is so basic that's it's drilled into student pilots from their first lesson and is (or should be) instinctive, and no company procedure should de-train that instinct.
    They were not doing an autoland, they were below the altitude at which AP/AT would be normally off, and even at max automation you've got to scan your airspeed on an approach. It's a great plane (last Boeing designed by pre Stonecipher people), great conditions, they were going into a long runway. Perhaps company SOPs deserve some part of the blame, but no matter how bad your SOPs you must know that airspeed (well, AOA) is life and it's your job to keep that life above the flatline of stall.

  • @SkinnyCow.
    @SkinnyCow. 3 місяці тому +3

    Captain We To Lo

  • @HomeAccount-ut4xe
    @HomeAccount-ut4xe 3 місяці тому +2

    do you use microsoft flight simulator to record these vids, xplane 12, or blender?

  • @onebigadvocado6376
    @onebigadvocado6376 3 місяці тому +3

    1:10 this is the aviation equivalent of having a smile that lights up a room.

  • @prusaudisisill5644
    @prusaudisisill5644 3 місяці тому +2

    Man I really wanted the followup on what happened to the pilots

  • @aviator_2401
    @aviator_2401 3 місяці тому +3

    The editing skills have become so much better green dot !!
    Also it’s incredible to see that you even updated the 777 to the latest hot fix ..
    Keep it up !!

  • @markjessurun7765
    @markjessurun7765 3 місяці тому +1

    2Day,s automation of Airplanes goes 2 the extent that Pilots hardly actually fly these Airplanes so when something goes wrong they CAN'T actually fly the Airplane !! The Best Pilots were the Stick and Rudder Guys from the 60,s/70/80,s who were actually being Trained flying an Airplane !! Thanks 4 ur documentary I liked it and looking 4ward 2 C more !! ❤❤😊😊

  • @CrimsonBlue396
    @CrimsonBlue396 3 місяці тому +3

    These are one of my favorite avation channels! This guy puts so much work in to these!
    He deserves more!
    Also can you cover what happened to Air Canada flight 143?

  • @trenawawrzyniak4397
    @trenawawrzyniak4397 3 місяці тому +1

    Horrible airman or airwoman ship.All pilots need to be able to fly their aircraft manually. The 1st lesson you learn when learning to fly a plane. FLY THE PLANE DON'T LET IT FLY YOU. TERRIBLE TRAINING PRACTICES FOR THIS AIRLINE.CRIMINAL IN MY MIND. I would never fly on this airline.DANGEROUS practices. Always letting the autopilot/computer fly the plane.

  • @hasithmalika
    @hasithmalika 3 місяці тому +14

    There was Sum Ting Wong.

  • @EdOeuna
    @EdOeuna 3 місяці тому +1

    You’re a bit sketchy with the descriptions of the AFDS modes. Even your graphics show HOLD / / VS, which isn’t a possible mode combination. It’s always SPD / / VS and the autothrottles are always engaged and active. HOLD only occurs with FLCH and VNAV PTH where the aircraft is,essentially, in a zero thrust glide. VNAV PTH wakes up the A/T’s for low speed to give SPD / / VNAV PTH, but FLCH doesn’t. It’s a zero thrust descent mode that uses pitch to maintain the selected indicated air speed.
    The confusion around this is why the plane crashed, and you’re sharing that same mode confusion.

  • @youtuber_channel0
    @youtuber_channel0 3 місяці тому +3

    Your videos motivate me to study aviation

  • @resiray5
    @resiray5 3 місяці тому +1

    Truly, an extremely anxiety-inducing video. Seeing how thousands of hours of experience, with multiple pilots, and a perfectly sound aircraft -these pilots managed to never actually learn how to fly their airplane. This is sheer negligence, both from the pilots and the airline. So negligent in fact, that the pilots went full circle and almost became victims of their own ignorance. I cannot bring myself to feel bad for them or be empathetic towards their decisions, as even after crashing a fucking airplane, they didn't call to evacuate. Perhaps if this accident had happened on a privately owned aircraft, and the pilots had been new to flying and crashed, I would feel bad. As they would be the only ones affected by their mistakes (in a sense). But passengers are introduced to the equation, and a higher standard is placed on the pilots. A standard that they did not even come close to meeting.
    Great video, great graphics and explanation. Bit of a downer tho lol. 😂

  • @jormajulianperez7094
    @jormajulianperez7094 3 місяці тому +7

    Daaaamn Sum Ting Wong :(

  • @tangatoto362
    @tangatoto362 3 місяці тому +2

    You make mention of the safety record of ASIANA. I’d question this with reference to an incident at Anchorage some (many?) years earlier involving a 747 which turned into the wrong gate. Rather than waiting for a tug to push them out, they elected to attempt a U-turn and in doing so a wing tip became lodged in the tail of an adjacent smaller parked aircraft. This mess was further compounded by the Asiana crew bringing the engines up to take off thrust in an attempt to dislodge, this resulted in baggage carts being propelled through windows in the terminal building. Asiana were banned from Anchorage for a number of years.

  • @FunnierIrishPerson
    @FunnierIrishPerson 3 місяці тому +17

    Fun Fact: My uncle was on vacation in San Francisco on this day. He had literally just arrived at SFO, and he witnessed the aftermath of what happened seconds earlier.

    • @theghostoftravel
      @theghostoftravel 3 місяці тому +2

      fun fact, i was working at the hotel across from SFO, The Westin SFO and I saw it happend

    • @damienjeremyweir4543
      @damienjeremyweir4543 3 місяці тому +2

      fun?!

    • @FunnierIrishPerson
      @FunnierIrishPerson 3 місяці тому

      @@damienjeremyweir4543 Maybe not so fun...

    • @muszr00m
      @muszr00m 3 місяці тому

      ​@@damienjeremyweir4543fact??

  • @1marcelfilms
    @1marcelfilms 3 місяці тому +2

    Sum Ting Wong
    Wii Tuu Loww
    Ho Lee Fook
    Bang Ding Ow

  • @kotsaris87
    @kotsaris87 3 місяці тому +3

    @01:40 Where's captain Bang Ding Ow?

  • @louisstennes3
    @louisstennes3 3 місяці тому +1

    Correct me if I am wrong. I assume each airline has all the manuals for each acft type but do all flight crews receive the same training. In other words if the acft is a 737max do United crews get the same training as Southwest crews or Japan Airline crews, etc. Why don't all crews receive exactly the same training regardless of what company they fly for? If they don't , I don't like this at all.

  • @3rubberboats
    @3rubberboats 2 місяці тому +1

    Pilots are NOT being trained to fly 100% manually has cause way too many crashes and deaths. Automation is okay at cruse, but not for takeoff or landing. Things NEED to change.

  • @vonditoamigo3530
    @vonditoamigo3530 3 місяці тому +3

    Love you gang

  • @sarahm2005
    @sarahm2005 3 місяці тому +1

    "It's low", "sir", I know this wasn't exactly because they didn't communicate with each other properly, but the first thing they should teach east Asians is to talk to each other and stop being so polite. That sir could have been "sir, you should go around", and believe me, at least one of them thought they should but kept his mouth shot because of their culture.

  • @patternwhisperer4048
    @patternwhisperer4048 2 місяці тому +3

    Mentour but significantly better AND without the obnoxious, narcististic inflated sense of ego. Love it

    • @christopherback2103
      @christopherback2103 2 місяці тому +1

      Kinda harsh on poor Peter? He's a nice man

    • @tomstravels520
      @tomstravels520 Місяць тому

      Don;t see how it's better. Mentor is a 737 training captain.

  • @123Nursery
    @123Nursery 3 місяці тому +8

    Im surprised you didn't mention that this was the same flight that when it was broadcast on TV the pilots names got read as Ho Lee Fok, wi tu lo. Would've immediately jumpstarted my memory

  • @Steveiegaming
    @Steveiegaming 2 місяці тому +1

    Bro really missed every opportunity to go around, then after crashing really said “standby”??? Like, whaT💀

  • @доктор-вонючая-морковь

    Great video , one American news network named the pilots as
    Sum Ting Wong
    Wi Tu Lo
    Ho Lee Fuk
    Bang Ding Ow
    Unbelievable .

  • @etzool
    @etzool 3 місяці тому +1

    Surreal. As a pilot, even _before_ all this automation, the most vital parts of your job have always been to get the plane into the air and then back at the ground. If you're not prepared to handle even a _partial_ loss of automation in otherwise perfect conditions... god, how do these people make their way into the cockpit?

  • @tabby7189
    @tabby7189 Місяць тому +1

    The survivability of the crash was probably aided substantially by the low speed of the plane and the proximity to ground as opposed to water.

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 3 місяці тому +1

    That NTSB intern lost his job for providing false names to the news. But honestly the news should have fact checked the data.

  • @JesusFollower43
    @JesusFollower43 Місяць тому +2

    Jesus loves you

  • @basikfades
    @basikfades 2 місяці тому +1

    i didnt know that asiana airlines used a320 in there fleet Thanks to you for me gaining a lil bit of aviation knowledge! :D im already a avgeek but i actually didnt know this

  • @LunaticTheCat
    @LunaticTheCat 2 місяці тому +1

    Piloted by legendary pilots, Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Lee Fuk, and Bang Ding Ow.

  • @queencleo1151
    @queencleo1151 2 місяці тому +2

    There was even a training captain in the cockpit... unbelievable!!!!

  • @kennethjmcarthur2428
    @kennethjmcarthur2428 3 місяці тому +1

    Overly technical automation in the cockpit removes the pilots natural abilities to fly the plane. End this madness.

  • @lrx54
    @lrx54 Місяць тому +1

    Pilot was too proud to admit a problem with approach. Embarrassed to order a go around. Ego vs safety 😮

  • @SunBear69420
    @SunBear69420 Місяць тому +2

    Wi Tu Lo
    Sum Ting Wong
    Ho Lee Fuk
    Bang Ding Ow

  • @dann5480
    @dann5480 3 місяці тому +1

    Terrible display of incompetence. South Korean pilot really messed things up.

  • @andrew1906
    @andrew1906 2 місяці тому +1

    19:37 high and fast is NOT the last place you want to be on approach… that would be low and slow.

  • @juniperbough7533
    @juniperbough7533 3 місяці тому +1

    Me, typing from my bed, flown a total of 3 times as a passenger: wow, what a rookie mistake

  • @thomasrobert1135
    @thomasrobert1135 Місяць тому +1

    Any time you say “he was described as…” my heart immediately sinks

  • @dava73
    @dava73 Місяць тому +1

    What an absolute mess. 4 of them and nobody knew how to fly a plane ffs! Unreal.

  • @AhmedMahmoud-rq5eo
    @AhmedMahmoud-rq5eo 3 місяці тому +2

    It’s worth mentioned that the videos quality have increased, keep going ❤️