Tbh, i was earning close to £15 per hour stacking shelves in a shop on a Sunday 10 years ago. I was putting handbags on shelves, clothes on hangers, sewing threads on shelves... So how is it that people who provide medical care, deal with blood, guts, pus, loony and violent people, etc, save lives, how is it that these people are paid £15 per hour? It's insane and crazy, and they should get a pay rise for that job. They are not robots, they are human beings and they do a very hard job and work very long hours, our lives are literally in their hands, they should be paid more than £15 per hour, ffs.
@@RoxanneLavender I don't think it's £15 per hour but I understand your point. What if the Co-op paid for you to study part-time, and upon completion of your traineeship you got a salary increase guaranteed until you earned 60k or even more if you worked in private supermarkets? You'd probably stay wouldn't you
I cannot abide James Whale, a childish man, who has made a career out of being rude, bullish & putting forward stupid arguments just to wind people up. This junior doctor was ill-prepared for (any!) interview - but another host could have made this much more interesting; listening to him shutting her down is annoying & getting angry with the production staff at the beginning - totally uncalled for.
These doctors that work in hospitals might save your life one day and to me that's price less. NHS and schools are way behind on pay rises and have been for years. Government is to blame.
They’ll less likely leave the profession, which many have, including going overseas. This would retain staff. They’re incredibly understaffed as it is.
You are so narrow minded. A doctor in first year of career - an FY1, gets paid today 1/3 less value than an FY1 was 15 years ago. Is their work today less valuable than 15 years ago? Same goes for army, navy, air force - is their lives less valuable today than 15 years ago? PS I'm a 44 yrs old junior doctor. In 2009 I was better off.
Totally agree.......his ignorant overbearing behaviour loses him his argument every time......and of course highly qualified professionals with many years of education already completed, and living in a very expensive city, deserve more than £15p/h! That's unarguable!.......yet he does. 🤔
Forget the support staff and the mic thing - James is not acting professional when he rudely and repeatedly shuts down his co-host. Good topics here, but I click of the moment James shushes the man beside him. Bye
The public sector is not financially productive; it's paid for out of taxation. It doesn't make a profit, it doesn't generate wealth. The higher a percentage of the economy that the public sector is, the higher the tax burden, which depresses the private sector, which is where the wealth and the taxes are generated. Public sector employees paying income tax is ouroboros economics; the 20% of their salary deducted in tax just goes straight back to the exchequer to be paid out again next month as part of their gross.
@user-re9mp2nh5e this is why they wont put the minimum wage up properly. Everyone's will have to go up from cleaners to surgeons. They cannot afford it, they've let it rot for 13 years. Covid finished it
@@KeithBrighouse-r3kwhy don’t you donate some more of your pay voluntarily comrade? Always people like you that want others better paid than you to give more. Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is?
£20p/hr is ludicrous for a junior doctor. We need to stop sending billions to Ukraine, stop with the net zero nonsense and start paying valuable employees in society what they're worth.
James Whale and your rude sidekick shoudl try living on £15ph, always rude and nasty to a woman who deserves more respect. Being a bully is not clever at any time.
And she would have to be labelled as stupid if she had not researched what wage she would be earning. They choose the career knowing the wage then complain about it.
Respect for what. For being a middle class twat.,with an average brain 🧠 and more self importance than is the norm for one who has not even earned her qualifications yet.
Bullshite ya thick brick me wife worked over 40years 4 the nhs .she worked at least 12 hour shifts and worked longer than 3 shifts in all that time * stfu if ya divvent naa the truth instead of talking up the tory shithouses thats never ever looked after the nhs they never ever wanted it ! You concentrate on not getting cancer like a marra of mine he died through lack of treatment bcos of tory malevolence during the blame of all eternity the covid safety valve that they used at all times (****)
@@tonydavies3511 ok, let me call her on her mob 🤦🏻♂️ You do realise, the strikes are there to bring attention that people are dying on normal days and the strikes are there to say that enough is enough and things need to change.
I'm calling BS on Junior Doctors earning a living wage. They already earn enough to live on and when they qualify it's a license to print money. Why should we, the taxpayers pay them more? What should be funded more is the medical schools, so that we have more people per year being offered places to study Medicine. To adjust the long term supply and demand balance. So that doctors pay can be reduced from the current levels whilst still being generous.
I saw a programme the other day featuring a retired GP who now counselling and supports working GPs. He said that most of them don't want to work kind of hours he used to work because they can't cope with that kind of workload. Seems to be the norm across society.
I dunno, I know people earning £13 ph at Lidl. Not bad for a supermarket worker. Most clearing 2k a month. The skilled market wages hasn't budged in decades. Junior Docs should definitely be earning more than £15 ph.
James Whale is such a prat at times. I think that Dr Mukherjee was trying to make the point that it has become normal for patients to wait 12 hours and more following triage. It’s not to do with skill or intelligence, people and the way illness reacts isn’t linear and the processes currently in place are cumbersome and take a person a long time to get through and do the various tasks patients require during their care journey
simple way to make care better in the NHS, though no one wants to admit it, stop the millions of people coming illegally into the country and using the NHS for free.
Nah invest and put our tax money where it needs to go, the Tory’s spent 14 years starving our services and making it rain all over the UKRAINE and ISRAEL.
She just put her foot in it. If Doctors are going on sick leave because they can’t handle the pressures of the job. How exactly is more money going to help. The pressures will still be there. Maybe we’re recruiting the wrong types to the role. Maybe they should test a recruits ability to handle pressure, before spending thousands on training them, just for them to go on sick leave and demand more money. If the strikes were about recruiting more doctors, to relieve the current pressures, then I would understand. Although, the timing of these strikes is very odd. When no politician can address the issue with them 🤷🏼♂️
@@charlieleedham5265 It's typical that you suggest I want slavery! You don't know me. It completely discredits your argument. Which you have all mixed up anyway. I was talking about more money in Doctors pockets does not ease the pressure on the individual. Which I am sure there is. You're talking about more money to the NHS, which I am all for, if it is managed correctly. Why do people like you feel the need to throw about aspersions about people they disagree with? And just for the record, I live on HALF of what Junior doctors are on! So, when people in these comments talk about "All they want is a living wage". They already have one! They're just disappointed that it takes a few years to progress to that 6 bedroom estate they want!
Didn’t they come into this profession voluntarily, knowing full well what the pay and rewards are. Also I thought it was a vocation rather than being all about the money.
My daughter is almost 16. Doesn't know what she wants as a career, but certainly knows what she does not - being a doctor. With two parents doctors from abroad, she spent an awful long time in day care, breakfast clubs and afterschool clubs and not much offered in return. A vocation that denies you spending time with your kids or offering them same their colleagues and friends take for granted. Being a junior doctor can be for 10-15 years and even longer. You are very ill informed. So ignorant
@@um02122a Google search could’ve led to the exact description you just gave. They know what they sign up for. Money in exchange for time with their family 🤷🏾♀️ then both parents being doctors is laughable. I mean come on
1. Pay junior doctors £40 per hour 2. ? 3. Profit! I've heard from all my friends who aren't economists but are communists that 100% taxes and unlimited pay rises for the public sector will trigger the second coming of the Messiah and not a financial catastrophe.
Wow the arrogance and misinformed young lady needs to grow up a lot. I worked in the nhs for ten years and doctors meddling in admin and budget areas were a major problem. They seemed to have no awareness of budgets and just plowed on as they thought best. The issue is the nhs gets plenty of money but nhs England is where the rot starts and the added layers of administration drains cash out the system along with labours pfi projects that last 30 years, as for the staffing shortages the bma and the rcn are just as at fault as the gov in limiting training places. With also adding Blairs drs contract negotiations messing the system up and causing far more doctors needed than before due to night call opt outs.
I agree. The lack of training places in Medical Schools is shockingly bad management. My son would have loved to become a doctor. He'd have made a great doctor. He failed to get in because there was too much competition for the places and he failed to jump through certain hoops that they use to decide who gets offered a place and who doesn't. With 35% more places offered to study Medicine, he'd have gotten in. And in the long term this would address waiting lists and help to keep the wage bill manageable.
I have used the NHS a lot in my lifetime in fact it's saved my life more than once. But the management is useless the money and time wasted is shocking, there's no sense of energy what so ever. One example is the day you leave hospital usually on that morning the doctor will tell you that you can go home, but in my experience you can then wait all day for your medication taking up a bed space. There's no sense of energy what so ever. Ask anyone that's been in hospital they will tell you the same,
The last time I was there (giving birth), I discharged myself as it was so bad. I told them my partner could take much better care of me at home, and he did. I nearly put in a complaint, but it was the same hospital that had saved my life 20 years previously, and I couldn't do it.
Tony Davies Iwonder what your thoughts were about the 30 Odd thousand Deaths of our Elderly ,Nothing to do with the Doctors that was down to the Incompetence. Or most likely on Purpose of Johnson and Hancock .
near 20million people are overweight in the UK, there is a huge unnecessary burden being placed on the NHS due to people lifestyle choices, bad diets, lack of exercise, alcohol, smoking etc...
I don't like how james interviews but junior doctors are just taking the piss now if they think pay them 35% and the nhs problems go away she is bonkers. But labour will pay it always do
£15 ph is a misnomer. How much do they actually earn per annum? I appreciate that they work long hours but their actual earnings are more than sufficient to live on, far more than many other people earn.
Say 48/h per week - 52 weeks a year = Take home of around £26,000. and you must understand this is a very taxing job, do you want someone who is on their 48th hour of the week taking care of your family?
A significant amount of Doctor's children become Doctors. They are overwhelmingly privilaged in many ways. Privately educated, privilaged people don't need a 35% pay increase for any training job. A real slap in the face to people who are struggling to find jobs, struggling to maintain work and struggling to pay bills. By all means offer burseries to those who arent privately educated or own their own home bought by Mummy & Daddy but Privately educated people who lay in the middle of the roads claiming a climate emergency, and privately educated Junior Doctor's claiming a financial crisis, should not be pandered to politically or given 35% wage increases.
What an absolutely abominable man, how dare you speak to the doctor like that, I agree with them striking, these guys wouldn’t work for £15 an hour. She is not to blame for the state of the NHS.
I think it a generational thing. I worked in the NHS for years, as a nurse, I worked with junior doctors every day. Not one of them ever said they would neglect patient care by striking. They all put patient care at the top of thier priorities..worked very hard and studies hard. For junior doctors to strike is TERRIBLE. I do not agree with it on a matter of ethics and morals and the sttement of Do no harm.
Perhaps, now that inflation has receded from a high level to around 2%, the rate of pay for Doctors ought to be re rated. At the present inflation level, the level of pay they wanted will be far closer to that which they were offered at the outset.
Tough. The rest of us who earn far less do not get to strike every time we have a tantrum. Nor do most of our wages go up annually. 60k a year, working 3 days a week with holiday and pension benefits....where the hell do I sign?!
It's not £15 per hour. My son is a junior doctor and his basic pay rate is £21.15 per hour. With Pay for additional hours above 40 hours, on-call allowance, weekend allowance and enhanced pay at 37% rate he earns £33 per hour on average through a 12-month period. Don't believe the BMA nonsense and striking doctors' propaganda. This strike action is purely political.
It's closer to £30 an hour. That's the rate for junior doctors, (how many 22 year olds earn that?!) when she's fully qualified in a year, her pay will more than double. Stop being soft, there are plenty of folk who work harder and longer for less.
Medical arrogance....the World revolves around them ! I'm speaking as a PhD Medical Researcher. Medics, Medical Scientists and similar positions are those of highly qualified people. But we are just Humans. Not Gods. Nurses likewise are important as are Care Home Workers, Dentists, Physiotherapists...etc...etc... For the amount of incredible study and Lab Work I put in to gain my PhD I started on a low wage. But I knew the situation before I went into it. I was working on anti Cancer Drugs without which the Doctors would have nothing to treat their Patients with. I never worked a 9 to 5 Day, 5 days a week. I always did overtime at no extra pay. You can't say your job is not just a job but a 'Calling' then demand money that's not there. There is a Duty of Care involved which must be honoured. Being a Dr also has a guaranteed Job with an excellent Pension at the end.
Striking by the medical profession is simply emotional blackmail. We all rely on medical expertise, but the reality must be faced by striking doctors. If you don't like the conditions, GET ANOTHER JOB ! I did years ago, when I was working 8 days a week. I found a better job - and have never looked back.
James you clearly know little about how hard it is to be a doctor, after already having done done five years of graft. £16 per hour is NOT appropriate !!! Correct there are too many inefficiencies in the NHS but they are rarely if ever the fault of doctors Also people need to stop making so many wrong life choices. Everyone should be choosing to eat better and do 150-300 minutes of exercise per week. Seventy per cent are not doing it. We all need to take responsibility for our own health.
If you not happy with your job,think about where you could get another job with same money and perks.If you are not happy and can get another job with better wages and all that comes with it,pack the job in. Bet you can’t so think yourself lucky
What a dumpster fire of a show. Disgusting behavior by the “host”?… she’s on your set? Why isn’t she set with mic when the segment starts, unless you’re actively trying to delegitimize her point… Your bias is obvious as it is misleading.
James Whale is an awful, awful interviewer and how his co-presenter has gone this long without taking his jaw off for the way Whale talks to and over him is beyond me
This girl looks like she’s just out of nappies. £15.00 an hour she should be bloody grateful! From where I am when I’m at the hospital the doctors don’t seem to be doing anything! They google your ailments which is disgraceful. I can do that myself and assume that’s my problem.
My wife has just been diagnosed with cancer, she was supposed to be going for a procedure this week but due to these people going on strike she is told now she will have to wait
@@kinggeoffrey3801 We cannot afford private I am glad you can. It matters not to me or my wife what they are paid. The fact is they are paid to do a job not continually strike. They either want to do the job or they dont. Oh and btw my son works in a massive hospital covering for some of these people.
Sorry James, but you tried to bully the junior doctor for the sake of trying to be clever with smart sound bites that will impress the listeners - instead of succeeding it made you look as if you should hang up your microphone or pass it on to someone else who is prepared to listen and answer intelligently.
I normally agree with you James but I spent 7h in a&e because my partner needed a few stitches on a quiet night! and got out of there at 4am! The doctor talking is very right.
James...If you have terminal cancer..time to go to alternative treatments that often reverse the outcome ? Do loads of re search mate..? I am doing my research and holistic treatments..seems to be working ?good luck mate..
She is dim. Being able to jump through certain academic hoops at the age of 18 in order to get into Medical School does not necessarily make you clever. Clever where it counts for the important things in life.
£37,000 p.a. for a 1sr year junior doctor is the reality. Thats more.than what they would earn elsewhere with the years of study they have. My son after 4 years of studying and 3 years of work/study as a trainee accountant earns £32,000 p.a. GPs earn sumes of monet most graduates only dream about.
I think you're misinformed. Don't get me wrong £37k is a great wage but there are grads working at IBs, hedge funds or as quants earning 100k plus. Comparatively their studies were much less than medicine.
I waited 2 years for a appointment got the letter with the appointment but now cos os the strike it got cancelled again its ben cancelled 4 times they wont get 35 percent they do need more i agree but not 35 percent they wont get it.
how is James Whale still on air?? the programme is a shambles...he blurts out nonsense most of the time, purposely aggresive and having a go at the crew??? WTF? just weird. Then complaining it's not professional.
FIRST DO NO HARM. Yes, I believe junior staff both nurses and drs are underpaid. They also underpreform. 20+ years ago I started getting severe back pain, inc numbing in my leg. I was told it was because if my job. 2 years ago I had a spinal surgury to remedy a BIRTH DEFECT where oart of my spine wasnt connected. Im 51 and now a non ambulatory wheelchair user, the MRI i needed to diagnose the ignored issue was private laid for myself. The NHS is broken, both the institution and the moral of the staff, we need Reforn UK to fix it.
a junior doctor in uk is barely trained . if they came to us they might be an intern and then have to do a residency... or likely go back to some more med school
sweetheart welcome to the real world every worker across the board and across the land deserves a pay rise and not the so called living wage that you cant live off
who is worth the higher wage a Politician or a Doctor in my mind a Doctor every time
The Whale and Bigfoot need to rent a room and set up an only fans…they are no good at Journalism.
Tbh, i was earning close to £15 per hour stacking shelves in a shop on a Sunday 10 years ago. I was putting handbags on shelves, clothes on hangers, sewing threads on shelves... So how is it that people who provide medical care, deal with blood, guts, pus, loony and violent people, etc, save lives, how is it that these people are paid £15 per hour? It's insane and crazy, and they should get a pay rise for that job. They are not robots, they are human beings and they do a very hard job and work very long hours, our lives are literally in their hands, they should be paid more than £15 per hour, ffs.
@@RoxanneLavender I don't think it's £15 per hour but I understand your point. What if the Co-op paid for you to study part-time, and upon completion of your traineeship you got a salary increase guaranteed until you earned 60k or even more if you worked in private supermarkets? You'd probably stay wouldn't you
These two men are extremely annoying 🤬
And, very very stupid.
And anachronistic 🦖
James is why I subscribed.
Can't listen to him anymore, I'm off
Don't worry the w⚓ won't be around for much longer!
We really are scraping the barrel with these pair of muppets. And I presume they are paid..incredible!
Oh dear, such ignorance. Their wages are based on the ad revenue they generate. If no one watches then they have no job.
the Whale wouldn't work for less than £150 an hour.
I cannot abide James Whale, a childish man, who has made a career out of being rude, bullish & putting forward stupid arguments just to wind people up. This junior doctor was ill-prepared for (any!) interview - but another host could have made this much more interesting; listening to him shutting her down is annoying & getting angry with the production staff at the beginning - totally uncalled for.
I think getting angry at the staff was mostly banter and jokes to be honest
@@davehug5405nope
James Whale is and always was a rude I'll mannered 24 carat bollucks.
Doctors work extremely hard James making them to be fools and not in debt..James and his Wolf partner are clueless
Even if you gave them the 35%, everything will be exactly the same.
No, minimum wage etc will go up
These doctors that work in hospitals might save your life one day and to me that's price less. NHS and schools are way behind on pay rises and have been for years. Government is to blame.
They’ll less likely leave the profession, which many have, including going overseas. This would retain staff. They’re incredibly understaffed as it is.
You are so narrow minded.
A doctor in first year of career - an FY1, gets paid today 1/3 less value than an FY1 was 15 years ago.
Is their work today less valuable than 15 years ago?
Same goes for army, navy, air force - is their lives less valuable today than 15 years ago?
PS I'm a 44 yrs old junior doctor.
In 2009 I was better off.
@@um02122 I support your right to strike and wish you all the success you guys deserve!!
Can't stand how arrogant this guy is, he may have some good points but the way he conducts himself is just embarrassing
Totally agree.......his ignorant overbearing behaviour loses him his argument every time......and of course highly qualified professionals with many years of education already completed, and living in a very expensive city, deserve more than £15p/h! That's unarguable!.......yet he does. 🤔
@@johnloftus21yet they all know what they will earn before taking up the profession.
@@johnloftus21 the average full time junior doctor earns £44,500. That’s undeniable…
Listen to the girl. Stop telling her she doesn’t understand
James so rude to his co presenter unwatchable!
Boldy you wouldn't work for £15.00 an hour, and your work doesn't save lives...
I think he's a plant. Has to be, he ruins the whole vibe if the channel.
go away commi
Baldy
whos boldy?
I'm afraid you don't know the facts - they've been seriously twisted beyond recognition...
Forget the support staff and the mic thing - James is not acting professional when he rudely and repeatedly shuts down his co-host. Good topics here, but I click of the moment James shushes the man beside him. Bye
She is a great example of how we overestimate the intelligence of doctors
Chat gpt is an option for you
She's a child basically whole countries full of idiots in professional jobs
you don't have to be intelligent to be a doctor.
Shes an arrogant piece of work.
To get the money they want, the Doctors just aren't turning the screw hard enough.
Every junior doctor that strikes costs the NHS £100k. No wonder your Granny cannot get her hip done.
@user-re9mp2nh5e no, they are in training. You pay a trainee appropriately, in any profession.
They're not more important than my grocer.
The public sector is not financially productive; it's paid for out of taxation. It doesn't make a profit, it doesn't generate wealth.
The higher a percentage of the economy that the public sector is, the higher the tax burden, which depresses the private sector, which is where the wealth and the taxes are generated.
Public sector employees paying income tax is ouroboros economics; the 20% of their salary deducted in tax just goes straight back to the exchequer to be paid out again next month as part of their gross.
@user-re9mp2nh5e this is why they wont put the minimum wage up properly. Everyone's will have to go up from cleaners to surgeons. They cannot afford it, they've let it rot for 13 years. Covid finished it
@@KeithBrighouse-r3kwell wrote!! Totally agree
@@KeithBrighouse-r3kwhy don’t you donate some more of your pay voluntarily comrade? Always people like you that want others better paid than you to give more. Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is?
£20p/hr is ludicrous for a junior doctor. We need to stop sending billions to Ukraine, stop with the net zero nonsense and start paying valuable employees in society what they're worth.
Thay knew how much thay would earn when they took the job
Didn’t know about the cost of living skyrocketing by an incompetent government though did they ?
So everyone deserves a 35% pay rise then!
Maybe you should wait until labour get in and ask them for your 35% rise, and Good luck with that one. Vote reform UK.
Good point!!
Socialized medicine ? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♀️💸💸
Labour apparently already said no to 35% so these idiots have no chance
Starmer said a few days ago pay rises for junior doctor's are unaffordable.
Your move Doctor.
James Whale and your rude sidekick shoudl try living on £15ph, always rude and nasty to a woman who deserves more respect. Being a bully is not clever at any time.
And she would have to be labelled as stupid if she had not researched what wage she would be earning.
They choose the career knowing the wage then complain about it.
Respect for what. For being a middle class twat.,with an average brain 🧠 and more self importance than is the norm for one who has not even earned her qualifications yet.
Can you get back to work please and stop people dying? Oh and I mean 5 days a week and not 3. VOTE REFORM and get OUR country back!
She has not been on strike.
@@kilokahn_x3850 Great. Tell her to tell her mates to get back to work too then.
They are busy the other 2 week days.
Building pathways and discombobulation distribution mechanisms. 😂
Bullshite ya thick brick me wife worked over 40years 4 the nhs .she worked at least 12 hour shifts and worked longer than 3 shifts in all that time * stfu if ya divvent naa the truth instead of talking up the tory shithouses thats never ever looked after the nhs they never ever wanted it ! You concentrate on not getting cancer like a marra of mine he died through lack of treatment bcos of tory malevolence during the blame of all eternity the covid safety valve that they used at all times (****)
@@tonydavies3511 ok, let me call her on her mob 🤦🏻♂️
You do realise, the strikes are there to bring attention that people are dying on normal days and the strikes are there to say that enough is enough and things need to change.
I'm calling BS on Junior Doctors earning a living wage. They already earn enough to live on and when they qualify it's a license to print money.
Why should we, the taxpayers pay them more?
What should be funded more is the medical schools, so that we have more people per year being offered places to study Medicine. To adjust the long term supply and demand balance. So that doctors pay can be reduced from the current levels whilst still being generous.
Doctors want a living wage? How unreasonable of them.
Such ignorance. A "living wage" is subjective and clearly this greedy media obsessed leech wants all she can scrounge.
They already have a living wage...they are greedy.
I saw a programme the other day featuring a retired GP who now counselling and supports working GPs. He said that most of them don't want to work kind of hours he used to work because they can't cope with that kind of workload. Seems to be the norm across society.
How do supermarket workers survive? Defo on less pay, i suppose because they are low down they don't matter.
I dunno, I know people earning £13 ph at Lidl. Not bad for a supermarket worker. Most clearing 2k a month.
The skilled market wages hasn't budged in decades. Junior Docs should definitely be earning more than £15 ph.
James Whale is such a prat at times. I think that Dr Mukherjee was trying to make the point that it has become normal for patients to wait 12 hours and more following triage. It’s not to do with skill or intelligence, people and the way illness reacts isn’t linear and the processes currently in place are cumbersome and take a person a long time to get through and do the various tasks patients require during their care journey
Good points. Well said.
interview of a dr by oakshot he said he could only work 3 days a week because he is burnt out but can work the other 2 days privately make sense?
simple way to make care better in the NHS, though no one wants to admit it, stop the millions of people coming illegally into the country and using the NHS for free.
Plenty of us will admit it. Then we'll be called deplorables.
So be it.
Or we could sell it to the Americans.
Your hate makes you naive.
Every person using the NHS not being entitled to free NHS care is getting billed.
So your "solution" is just hateful rant.
@@um02122Bang on! These people are deplorable, they even predict being called this, 😝🤭
Nah invest and put our tax money where it needs to go, the Tory’s spent 14 years starving our services and making it rain all over the UKRAINE and ISRAEL.
She just put her foot in it. If Doctors are going on sick leave because they can’t handle the pressures of the job. How exactly is more money going to help. The pressures will still be there. Maybe we’re recruiting the wrong types to the role. Maybe they should test a recruits ability to handle pressure, before spending thousands on training them, just for them to go on sick leave and demand more money.
If the strikes were about recruiting more doctors, to relieve the current pressures, then I would understand. Although, the timing of these strikes is very odd. When no politician can address the issue with them 🤷🏼♂️
@@charlieleedham5265 It's typical that you suggest I want slavery! You don't know me. It completely discredits your argument. Which you have all mixed up anyway. I was talking about more money in Doctors pockets does not ease the pressure on the individual. Which I am sure there is. You're talking about more money to the NHS, which I am all for, if it is managed correctly. Why do people like you feel the need to throw about aspersions about people they disagree with?
And just for the record, I live on HALF of what Junior doctors are on! So, when people in these comments talk about "All they want is a living wage". They already have one! They're just disappointed that it takes a few years to progress to that 6 bedroom estate they want!
She’s only been qualified 3 years. Spends most of her time on the TV or making UA-cam videos ffs.
She can do whatever she wants on her days off!
@@thelleftaremad7556lol
@kilokahn_x3850 yes, I'd have plenty of spare time too if I only worked a three day week.
@@kilokahn_x3850shut up!
@@thelleftaremad7556😂😂💯
I enjoy watching James. Amazing to see a man with terminal cancer still enjoying what he does . I really doe hope a miracle happens for him
A guy has just been payed more to berate a doctor on TalkTV than she’d be payed to save his life when fatty boom boom has a heart attack
Didn’t they come into this profession voluntarily, knowing full well what the pay and rewards are. Also I thought it was a vocation rather than being all about the money.
My daughter is almost 16. Doesn't know what she wants as a career, but certainly knows what she does not - being a doctor.
With two parents doctors from abroad, she spent an awful long time in day care, breakfast clubs and afterschool clubs and not much offered in return.
A vocation that denies you spending time with your kids or offering them same their colleagues and friends take for granted. Being a junior doctor can be for 10-15 years and even longer. You are very ill informed. So ignorant
@@um02122a Google search could’ve led to the exact description you just gave. They know what they sign up for. Money in exchange for time with their family 🤷🏾♀️ then both parents being doctors is laughable. I mean come on
Starting wage is not £15 an hour for junior doctors it is £27.99 per hour.
Still not enough, a handyman in London makes minimum £40p/hr
1. Pay junior doctors £40 per hour
2. ?
3. Profit!
I've heard from all my friends who aren't economists but are communists that 100% taxes and unlimited pay rises for the public sector will trigger the second coming of the Messiah and not a financial catastrophe.
What does a junior handyman make tho?
In Canada , starting salary is 150K Canadian. Which is about 100K American. Uk is so poor
She's taken off the tax, for added drama! Clearly she thinks she doesn't have to contribute to the country's purse either.
Wow the arrogance and misinformed young lady needs to grow up a lot. I worked in the nhs for ten years and doctors meddling in admin and budget areas were a major problem. They seemed to have no awareness of budgets and just plowed on as they thought best.
The issue is the nhs gets plenty of money but nhs England is where the rot starts and the added layers of administration drains cash out the system along with labours pfi projects that last 30 years, as for the staffing shortages the bma and the rcn are just as at fault as the gov in limiting training places. With also adding Blairs drs contract negotiations messing the system up and causing far more doctors needed than before due to night call opt outs.
Like most of her type shes arrogant and mouthy.
I agree. The lack of training places in Medical Schools is shockingly bad management.
My son would have loved to become a doctor. He'd have made a great doctor. He failed to get in because there was too much competition for the places and he failed to jump through certain hoops that they use to decide who gets offered a place and who doesn't.
With 35% more places offered to study Medicine, he'd have gotten in. And in the long term this would address waiting lists and help to keep the wage bill manageable.
Junior doctors are now activists
I have used the NHS a lot in my lifetime in fact it's saved my life more than once. But the management is useless the money and time wasted is shocking, there's no sense of energy what so ever.
One example is the day you leave hospital usually on that morning the doctor will tell you that you can go home, but in my experience you can then wait all day for your medication taking up a bed space. There's no sense of energy what so ever.
Ask anyone that's been in hospital they will tell you the same,
The last time I was there (giving birth), I discharged myself as it was so bad.
I told them my partner could take much better care of me at home, and he did.
I nearly put in a complaint, but it was the same hospital that had saved my life 20 years previously, and I couldn't do it.
Not even Wes Streeting will give them a 35% increase.
Tony Davies Iwonder what your thoughts were about the 30 Odd thousand Deaths of our Elderly ,Nothing to do with the Doctors that was down to the Incompetence. Or most likely on Purpose of Johnson and Hancock .
you should have asked her how large the NHS pension contributions are
near 20million people are overweight in the UK, there is a huge unnecessary burden being placed on the NHS due to people lifestyle choices, bad diets, lack of exercise, alcohol, smoking etc...
Our surgeries and hospitals are ghost towns now the people managing the money need to be held accountable!!!
I don't like how james interviews but junior doctors are just taking the piss now if they think pay them 35% and the nhs problems go away she is bonkers. But labour will pay it always do
Then they’ll work overseas or change careers. That’ll make things way worse.
£15 ph is a misnomer. How much do they actually earn per annum? I appreciate that they work long hours but their actual earnings are more than sufficient to live on, far more than many other people earn.
Say 48/h per week - 52 weeks a year = Take home of around £26,000.
and you must understand this is a very taxing job, do you want someone who is on their 48th hour of the week taking care of your family?
A significant amount of Doctor's children become Doctors. They are overwhelmingly privilaged in many ways. Privately educated, privilaged people don't need a 35% pay increase for any training job. A real slap in the face to people who are struggling to find jobs, struggling to maintain work and struggling to pay bills. By all means offer burseries to those who arent privately educated or own their own home bought by Mummy & Daddy but Privately educated people who lay in the middle of the roads claiming a climate emergency, and privately educated Junior Doctor's claiming a financial crisis, should not be pandered to politically or given 35% wage increases.
Greedy lot.
The nice chap with the beard lways gets a hard time on this show.. always gets put down by James and I would like to hear his remarks and comments...
What an absolutely abominable man, how dare you speak to the doctor like that, I agree with them striking, these guys wouldn’t work for £15 an hour. She is not to blame for the state of the NHS.
Who is the anonymous Geezer sitting to the right of the Whale, that keeps chipping in ?
Shes making enough for lip fillers - she doesnt need a payrise😅
This should be a comedy show not a real . These 2 are clowns 🤡
Yes, the state of the nhs is awful - thanks to lazy doctors not working - 3 days a week is shameful...
You could earn more stripping or somert
I think it a generational thing. I worked in the NHS for years, as a nurse, I worked with junior doctors every day. Not one of them ever said they would neglect patient care by striking. They all put patient care at the top of thier priorities..worked very hard and studies hard.
For junior doctors to strike is TERRIBLE. I do not agree with it on a matter of ethics and morals and the sttement of Do no harm.
It's post March 2020 attitude
A striking girl, who happens to be a Junior Doctor!
Now only I understand why a lot of British Doctors are fleeing to Australia.
Perhaps, now that inflation has receded from a high level to around 2%, the rate of pay for Doctors ought to be re rated. At the present inflation level, the level of pay they wanted will be far closer to that which they were offered at the outset.
Tough. The rest of us who earn far less do not get to strike every time we have a tantrum. Nor do most of our wages go up annually.
60k a year, working 3 days a week with holiday and pension benefits....where the hell do I sign?!
James Whale just completely milking his situation. Absolutely appalling human being, completely unprofessional, rude, disrespectful, idiotic.
perfect for us Yanks
Is the fact they both talk common sense that uspets you?
@RealJohnDoe The sheep said what??
He has got terminal cancer so hes not well
@@williamdeypres1122It would be nice if they let their ‘guests’ speak. The bigotry is ludicrous.
She is tricking 🫠
We need more managers to manage the other managers.
That's the problem
You get £15 an hour working in Tesco. How can he say that's fair? They study for 7 years and accumulate huge debt.
It isn't £15 per hour, that's an extrapolation on a number of factors.
They don't even get 12 pound an hour .
It's not £15 per hour. My son is a junior doctor and his basic pay rate is £21.15 per hour. With Pay for additional hours above 40 hours, on-call allowance, weekend allowance and enhanced pay at 37% rate he earns £33 per hour on average through a 12-month period. Don't believe the BMA nonsense and striking doctors' propaganda. This strike action is purely political.
It's closer to £30 an hour. That's the rate for junior doctors, (how many 22 year olds earn that?!) when she's fully qualified in a year, her pay will more than double.
Stop being soft, there are plenty of folk who work harder and longer for less.
Nursing and being a doctor is a vocation. Going on strike is an abomination so shame on you.
So a vocation should be badly paid?
@@jimmyhay47 no just don't work for the NHS expecting a huge salary.
Another entitled doctor who thinks they’re the brains of Britain 🙄
Why is she entitled?!
The junior doctors have come out thinking they're good enough and owed top money when they're just learning! Put up and shut up.
You do it then.
Medical arrogance....the World revolves around them ! I'm speaking as a PhD Medical Researcher. Medics, Medical Scientists and similar positions are those of highly qualified people. But we are just Humans. Not Gods. Nurses likewise are important as are Care Home Workers, Dentists, Physiotherapists...etc...etc... For the amount of incredible study and Lab Work I put in to gain my PhD I started on a low wage. But I knew the situation before I went into it. I was working on anti Cancer Drugs without which the Doctors would have nothing to treat their Patients with. I never worked a 9 to 5 Day, 5 days a week. I always did overtime at no extra pay.
You can't say your job is not just a job but a 'Calling' then demand money that's not there. There is a Duty of Care involved which must be honoured. Being a Dr also has a guaranteed Job with an excellent Pension at the end.
Striking by the medical profession is simply emotional blackmail. We all rely on medical expertise, but the reality must be faced by striking doctors. If you don't like the conditions, GET ANOTHER JOB ! I did years ago, when I was working 8 days a week. I found a better job - and have never looked back.
James you clearly know little about how hard it is to be a doctor, after already having done done five years of graft. £16 per hour is NOT appropriate !!! Correct there are too many inefficiencies in the NHS but they are rarely if ever the fault of doctors Also people need to stop making so many wrong life choices. Everyone should be choosing to eat better and do 150-300 minutes of exercise per week. Seventy per cent are not doing it. We all need to take responsibility for our own health.
They chose to be doctors. They start low pay and it goes up to very good salary. They are asking way too much rise. 10pc is fair.
What a beautiful woman
If you not happy with your job,think about where you could get another job with same money and perks.If you are not happy and can get another job with better wages and all that comes with it,pack the job in. Bet you can’t so think yourself lucky
What a dumpster fire of a show. Disgusting behavior by the “host”?… she’s on your set? Why isn’t she set with mic when the segment starts, unless you’re actively trying to delegitimize her point…
Your bias is obvious as it is misleading.
James Whale is an awful, awful interviewer and how his co-presenter has gone this long without taking his jaw off for the way Whale talks to and over him is beyond me
she is very striking !
Simp
This girl looks like she’s just out of nappies. £15.00 an hour she should be bloody grateful! From where I am when I’m at the hospital the doctors don’t seem to be doing anything! They google your ailments which is disgraceful. I can do that myself and assume that’s my problem.
They do a lot of training on low pay. Many years. Meanwhile, trades people etc can earn good money from a young age.
My wife has just been diagnosed with cancer, she was supposed to be going for a procedure this week but due to these people going on strike she is told now she will have to wait
My wife has the same issue so we are going private. But junior doctors should definitely be earning more than they are.
@@kinggeoffrey3801 We cannot afford private I am glad you can. It matters not to me or my wife what they are paid. The fact is they are paid to do a job not continually strike. They either want to do the job or they dont. Oh and btw my son works in a massive hospital covering for some of these people.
Sorry James, but you tried to bully the junior doctor for the sake of trying to be clever with smart sound bites that will impress the listeners - instead of succeeding it made you look as if you should hang up your microphone or pass it on to someone else who is prepared to listen and answer intelligently.
(Charles Bukowski) The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts and the stupid ones are full of confidence.
I normally agree with you James but I spent 7h in a&e because my partner needed a few stitches on a quiet night! and got out of there at 4am! The doctor talking is very right.
James...If you have terminal cancer..time to go to alternative treatments that often reverse the outcome ? Do loads of re search mate..? I am doing my research and holistic treatments..seems to be working ?good luck mate..
If she's one of the Country's brightest minds gawd help us.
Jim Whale telling a qualified doctor that she is dim. Dr Mukherjee responded with a knowing grin. She is all class.
She is dim. Being able to jump through certain academic hoops at the age of 18 in order to get into Medical School does not necessarily make you clever.
Clever where it counts for the important things in life.
@@lint8391 You are selling her short. It takes brains, discipline and hard mental application to secure a medical degree.
Sorry, if I were a doctor I couldn't sleep at night knowing what the effects of my strike would have on patients.
About fair pay for carers cleaners nd kitchen staff they do hard working as much nd if u cnt live 27 pound an hour there something wrong with u
£37,000 p.a. for a 1sr year junior doctor is the reality. Thats more.than what they would earn elsewhere with the years of study they have. My son after 4 years of studying and 3 years of work/study as a trainee accountant earns £32,000 p.a. GPs earn sumes of monet most graduates only dream about.
I think you're misinformed. Don't get me wrong £37k is a great wage but there are grads working at IBs, hedge funds or as quants earning 100k plus. Comparatively their studies were much less than medicine.
I waited 2 years for a appointment got the letter with the appointment but now cos os the strike it got cancelled again its ben cancelled 4 times they wont get 35 percent they do need more i agree but not 35 percent they wont get it.
how is James Whale still on air?? the programme is a shambles...he blurts out nonsense most of the time, purposely aggresive and having a go at the crew??? WTF? just weird. Then complaining it's not professional.
FIRST DO NO HARM. Yes, I believe junior staff both nurses and drs are underpaid. They also underpreform. 20+ years ago I started getting severe back pain, inc numbing in my leg. I was told it was because if my job. 2 years ago I had a spinal surgury to remedy a BIRTH DEFECT where oart of my spine wasnt connected. Im 51 and now a non ambulatory wheelchair user, the MRI i needed to diagnose the ignored issue was private laid for myself.
The NHS is broken, both the institution and the moral of the staff, we need Reforn UK to fix it.
I wish Ash was taken off the show, he is very annoying.
In my day there was a scheme called YTS. I was paid £27.50 a week 😂 for 40 hours. 😅
a junior doctor in uk is barely trained . if they came to us they might be an intern and then have to do a residency... or likely go back to some more med school
Amateur hour on talk TV. Yet another presenter that loves the sound of his own voice. Bye!
sweetheart welcome to the real world every worker across the board and across the land deserves a pay rise and not the so called living wage that you cant live off
£15 per hour - they're on more than me!! 😂
The more you're paid, the more your TAXED!!
Doctors are too good and important to work 7 days a week. Pathetic. The arrogance of this woman is of the scale.
Ash is an embarrassment. I bet she's not on £15/hour. If she doesn't like her salary i'm sure their are other countries who will employ her.
Divide and rule alive and well. The super rich laughing all the way to the bank.
I love this sitcom - Two Ugly Old Bears and a Hot Straight Chc.
Define Terminal... He's been terminal for efffin ages . Everyone ever born is "Terminal" .... Expedite please
11:03 Well that anecdote backfired didn't it? LMFAO.