Vladimir Horowitz 1977 (Oct.) seminar for students
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2019
- Vladimir Horowitz's October, 1977 seminar for students at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor. This recording is without copyright and should bear no complaint from any claimant.
Horowitz's comment about the piano imitating the singing voice is something very few pianists can do today. I get bored listening to 95% of today's pianists even the famous ones. In Horowitz's playing I can hear not one, but several voices singing / sighing /speaking all at once. It's magical.
Horowitz is absolutely charming in this intimate conversation with students. What a treat to also have given them (and us) a performance. as well.
Extremely fascinating and a rare video of Horowitz's life. Love his humor and laugh too! Such rare history and glad it is preserved. Yes, thank you Michael Brown for this very, very special life history interview of Horowitz in 1977, invaluable find and a great treasure for us in the present time as well and for our future generations to hear too!
Thank you, thank you, Michael Brown, for this unbelievable uploading. What an amazingly human revelation for us. How touchingly honest and charming he was.
I think the playing at the end is some of the most beautiful I've heard. Horowitz piano sounds divine even on my miserable computer. Thanks so much for sharing this seminar.
Even given the poor sound reproduction here, the Rachmaninoff prelude is SO beautiful it makes me want to cry 🥲
I knew this event had taken place, but thought I would never get to hear it. Thank you very much for posting.
Thanks a lot for the upload! I'm very grateful to hear him respond to these questions :))
So glad to have come across this
Thanks for putting this up, MB. The playing at the end is wonderful. I've gone through Horowitzmania, too. I spoke to him briefly at a February 1976 Pasadena recital. Now on to the Feb. '82 recital, which I attended.
11:25 competitions
18:00 I never brag
19:35 youthfulness
32:10 Horowitz at the Disco
I was there!
Wonderful and insightful!
Very interesting to hear Horowitz like that. I just discovered your youtube channel a little while ago. It's one of the most valuable channels of all. Thank you for sharing this treasure with us 🎹
I just put online a piece that Horowitz loved to do as an encore, Étincelles composed by Moszkowski 🍀
omg he played a programm only with medtner pieces…. i would give everything to hear that😪
Funny, insightful, odd, alas, great! I hold on for the ride, gasp in delight at the thrill and mystery. So little I can control, yet a certain control is within ones grasp; a certain mastery.
a treasure.
Horowitz was wrong! We need competitions! Unknown players get huge growds audience! Without no listeners! Best exsample is Tchaikovsky competition in 1966 growd and audience loved Mischa Dichter his beautiful piano sound! Critic writers loved Victor Eresko calling him new Busoni! Good lord we had jury Emil Gilels who knew More than no talent critic writers and Gilels gave the first prize to Grigory Sokolov whos rhythmic vitalness was unbeatable already in 1966!
What an amazing register of Horowitz. I wonder if I could translate it and use with my students.
What a pearl
I wish the audio could be cleaned up a bit. The volume is low, and it’s not easy to listen to. That said, the upload is a gem. 👏🏻
I use Apple earbuds, and I hear everything. If you do, too, then I guess I can’t suggest anything!
@@voraciousreader3341 I need to invest in a pair of these. 😃
Absolutely agree with his view of competitions. Sadly it‘s true 😕
11:25 Horowitz talks about music competition !
I disagree with Wagner and Horowitz’s assessment of the last piano sonatas of Beethoven. They are sublime masterpieces. 😳
Horowitz only reports Wagner’s view, which is that the late sonatas on LVB are “confessional” and private in spirit, therefore unsuitable for public performance. His view implies they may well be sublime, not not appropriate for a public audience. Horowitz never played the late sonatas in public so far as I know, though I think he did op. 101, one of the earlier works of the “late period”; usually 109-111 are referred to as the late sonatas, and 106 (Hammerklavier) likewise, but clearly 106 is intended for public performance and is not the “confessional” (slow movement notwithstanding) type of music Wagner was referring to; we must assume the comment applied applied to op. 109-111.
On this Wagner certainly has a point. Especially op.111. It has nothing to do with sublime vs. not sublime. It has to to with public vs. private character of particular music. Horowitz talks about Bach Well Tempered Clavier; same principle applies.
In contemporary times we don’t have the same ideas about public and private (obviously), for good or ill. They did in the mid-nineteenth century and Beethoven’s day, a generation or two before.
I would say Wagner is correct in that op. 109-111 in some respects are quite beautiful and introspective and otherwise appealing, but they have drawbacks as to suitability for public performance, particularly op. 111. They are very initiate and even a bit crude at points, making you feel a bit like you are seeing the composer half naked. I’m certain he had some (increasing) mental problems as he wrote these, and not in a good way. We fetishized the idea of the “crazy genius” but at least in this case, the emotional outpourings and obsessive dwelling on the loss of hearing which he sort of “documents” in the final movement of op. 111 are almost like raw displays of his psychological state, albeit put it extremely refined musical language.
Nowadays people call that kind of outpouring “profound” just because it is so personal, but in the mid nineteenth century it would have been considered crude to display one’s inner experiences that way. Artists were expected to point to the sublime or innermost experiences more indirectly and in more veiled ways.
Maybe Beethoven’s art is at its best when these inner feelings are expressed more obliquely, like a human figure being appreciated while clothed as opposed to in a flesh magazine.
Beethoven himself said that the op.106 (and I guess all late sonatas) needed another 50 years before they’d be understood by listeners.
11:36
I think his performance of the Rachmaninoff Prelude is the most beautiful I've heard by him--it was a favorite piece of his, and I must have heard a dozen performances. (I'm not familiar with the second piece. Anyone know what it is? Here, he seems to be playing from a rather distant memory, and not well.)
The second piece was Rachmaninoff Moment Musicale op,16 n.2 and it couldn't be played better IMO.
@@vova47 Thanks. I revise my opinion, and think it’s an incredible performance. Lucky audience. You always have the feeling he is reinventing or rediscovering or even composing a piece as he plays it, to a degree that is unique among pianists.
When I hear Horowitz and other legends talk negatively about competitions (and I’m not saying they’re wrong), I always think of the very first Tchaikovsky Competition, in the Soviet Union during the Cold War, and the fact that an _American_ (Van Cliburn, of course) won first prize, which supremely embarrassed the government. So I guess in THAT case the competition wasn’t rigged, right?!? 😁 But I feel sorry for Vladimir Ashkenazy, who was threatened with never being allowed to have a professional career if he didn’t enter, and win, but even then he tied with an Englishman!
Horowitz throwing shade
His voice reminds me of Victor Borge's
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The first piece (Prelude) is without doubt the most beautiful rendition I’ve heard in my 78 years... now I’m content.
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