1st Drive "New" M8 Competition 0-60 in 2.78 Seconds! Disappointing Package! | 4k
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Running Order of this video;
00:00 Intro
06:00 Spec
07:26 Interior
11:30 0-60 Test
12:34 On the road.
21:48 My Conclusion
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When it is cold, those tires will become hard like a stone and make this ride uncomfortable
What about a used 850?
Driving in the wet is probably the reason you don't like the drive of the M8 Comp
Agree. I just watched a recent review of the 2023 DBS that had a price of over $400,000.
Top review as always. Totally agree that it is very pricy, and too heavy as well, nevertheless what a gorgeous looking car. I've never seen the M8 as an 911 rival. It's far too big and heavy for that. I see it more like an Aston Martin DB11 and Bentley GT rival, but much cheaper than those cars. That said, personally I'd go for the M850i, which is almost as quick (as a daily anyway), more comfy and far cheaper too.
Tbh what does it matter if it’s too heavy if it still does 0-60 in 2.7 seconds
M850 is a better car
@@cammydough3184 well yes, it does do 0-60 in 2.8 seconds but the weight will affect it in the corners/handling.
Completely agree. It’s more of a high performance luxury GT car. M850i will blitz any Bentley or Aston so the m8 can be a bit over powered. But for the size and presence this is more of a luxury GT car with the perfect blend of the Bentley GT and the 911
@@cammydough3184 well then we should all just get a Tesla if it’s about 0-60 sprints and nothing else. Weight kills handling and feel etc.
Wife and I had opp to take 2 Day M School in SC, driving these mostly. It was amazing to see what the M8’s dual capabilities are, street or track. All that with a heated center console lid! 😊
YES THE HEATED ARM POSITIONS ARE INSANE
Yeah I remember seeing so many 8 series on the lot at the Southern California dealership I used for several years for servicing. I'm not surprised they had trouble selling, even though their was the nostalgia factor and yes, it's got a sexy shape for sure.
Great review buddy as always. Detailed, insightful and entertaining 👌👏
Waiting on depreciation to get one. I love this style of car. Road trips, daily driver, track days! Size suits our American roads fine!
the value proposition of the m850i on the used market is pretty solid. You can pick one up for 70-85k cad and with a few simple mods you can reliably make more hp than the m8 comp. Granted, it would be more of a highway speed missile than a track weapon.
maybe not the most positive review but one that i can understand, driving a m8 comp for a year now and must say there are pros and cons, looks, quality, performance... and the cons: price, depreciation, passion... But still a great car to live with, had some (fast) roadtrips across europe with it, this car loves going fast on the highway ! also a headturner when you pass by 🙂
Love this car. It looks fantastic, sounds even better. This and the M2 (current gen) are probably my favorite M cars. Idk if I can say the same about the new M2
Yeah same on the m2, not sure about the front grill
I’ve had my M8 for four months and I do agree with lot you say… but I’ve never had car that get so much attention. Mine is stage one car with about 700 bhp and it’s just crazy fast and needed to change tires to ps4 as P zeros had go grip whatsoever.. it’s amazing car and I love it
If you don't mind me asking, how do you feel about your warranty being void because of the modifications? It blows my mind when people do it on new cars and yours at into 6figures is another level. I do appreciate that there are people that can easily afford the repairs if things go wrong but a new engine in one of these must be mental money ect. Just curious thanks
How
Much $
@@reddragon1572 he is chatting absolute shit my friend. He does not have a M8 lol. Go on his page. He is a 12 year old with maybe a hot wheels version of the m8.
bruh. you are like 11 years old. must have saved up a ton of allowance money and convinced a state to give you a drivers license. adult tip: you don't need to be like that. be yourself and NEVER flex, even if you actually have something to flex. people who aren't morons pick up on that bs immediately and you will always be known as a tool
@@firathussein4136 Could just be his son? or something?
Very knowledgeable. I really appreciate your willingness to say what you don’t like and what a better alternative in the BMW line might be.
Top work Joe, love how you tell it like you see it and not follow the company line 👍
I really appreciate when a reviewer covers warts and all. Your honesty is appreciated
Personally would go for the gran coupe. That does have a much better ride quality, test drove both the convertible and GT on PS4s’ a few weeks back.
Ideal combo of the 911 GTS and Bentley gt if you’re looking for a really fast and luxurious gt car. A shit load of road presence too
I shouldn’t but I really like that motor (apart from the price). I also prefer the iDrive 7, and joy of joys, real buttons for core functions!
Not a negative review, just honest opinions and truthful to all of us. Great video 👍🏼
I have a 2022 coupe and i live in nyc and i daily it and it is very comfortable. I like this channel but i am not sure why joe is saying it has a bad ride quality?!
I agree it depreciates very quickly but has a very good presence on the road and it is a great gt car
This car rides better then an M4 and it looks better then and you can get a used one for the price of a new m4
As far as fun to drive i agree that isn't that fun but this is a luxury sports car at the end of the day and if you want a fun car get an M4 or porsche
What a car! Unbelievable 0-60 time! Proper mile munching machine.... Great video buddy
You are spot on about the discounts an low sales of these.. I was in the market for one few months ago. The dealership had it 155k msrp but was willing to give me major a discount to about 135k . 20 k off the original sticker.
Fantastic Review Joe. We don't see a lot of the 2 or 4 door 8 series in Australia. Thanks for sharing
Great review Joe, although I have to say I’m slight saddened as I had been looking at these for quite some time to replace my F82 M4. I always loved the idea of it being a bargain Conti GT and the used prices on these had really been catching my eye. I would never have expected it to compete with the M4 dynamically (although in reality a big V8 and soft suspension would suit most of my real world driving to a tee), but sadly it sounds like it doesn’t perform the GT role well at all. The fact that it was such a mild update, makes me think they are bailing on this generation and we will see an all electric flagship i8 in the not too distant future.
You should get one, I have a Bmw M8 and LOVE IT! No regrets it's smooth it's fast it's comfortable, just need to have the correct tires on for winter and summer , I ordered an M4 when it came in it was nothing like my M8 NOTHING! I love the interior I love the exterior and love the way it drives, I've owned many Bmw's M3 comp, M2 Comp, M550 , the M8 is perfect
I had a 2021 m850i, great gt car, thirsty but very comfortable, just didn’t blow my skirt up 🤷🏻♂️
Go test-drive it yourself - the M8 Competition Coupe is a superb motor-car - everyone's point of reference and opinion differs from the next, and it may just be the perfect car for YOU.
@@nuno22gp good shout! 👍
a bargain gt would be an S63 coupe not an M8 without massaging seats
Objective review, good knowledge. Appreciate the content!
I loved the video, great job Joe, keep it up! 🥰🥰🥰
Looking back, i was so lucky to order my M4 comp before the prices went crazy…i waited a long time…although they are become more available on the used market now, with discount i paid 82k for a fully loaded (excl the seats)…i remember looking at getting an M8 a few years ago but was told it will lose a lot of money so held tight…160k for a new one is crazy money…they will only sell them to company car owners..
I dont know why you dont have 500k + subs .. way better channel than others with 2 or 3 x the subs, clear enthusiasm for what you do
Great review as always, thank you Joe.
Interesting review.
It’s a shame that BMW can’t find that sweet spot of ride/comfort, and handling as they did in the M5 CS. Surely it can’t be that hard to configure?
Also, you mentioned that the M8 has rear seats that fold down- is this new? In your original comparison with your M2 competition, this wasn’t the case.
Outstanding review, Joe. Top driving skills too.
The days of the large coupe seem to be pretty much numbered, certainly for the likes of BMW and Mercedes who depend on relatively large production volumes to make them viable. If the tyres are so important as Joe suggests, its a bit of a shame that the supplying dealer wasn't able to offer a set of Michelin's to help establish how much of the reported problems are down to the P Zero's and how much the chasis, etc.
Great review Joe. I had an M8 comp gran coupe as my daily for two years so a little larger and more practical than the coupe but not quite as pretty. Agree with a lot of what you said, super quick but not that engaging. The Pirelli tyres got me in trouble a couple of times,just awful in the wet. I got £20k off the list price with the dealer contribution and lost about £1100 a month in depreciation. Not sure I agree with the m4c comparison, one-off the selling points for me having come from an m5c was exclusivity. I saw one other m8c GC in two years, you wouldn’t get that same exclusivity with the m4c although granted there’s quite some delta in the price
What is "dealer contribution"? Is it just BMW dealerships trying to get the car sold so they give you discounts?
Yeah
I have an F90 M5C and I was looking at switching over to the M8C GC, due to its exclusivity and presence it has on the street. I do l9ve my M5, but it just blends in with everything else, the 8 series as a while has a different look.
@@frankivory1391 trust me people notice an M5
Was that some good old style kangarooing when he car launched hard? Visible both from the inside camera shot as well as outside..I used to get that when launching in first gear and dumping the clutch with an older manual BMW..
Not driven the M8 but when I reviewed the m850 went to a golf course and felt right at home (golf clubs and a golf caddy fitted in the boot) I felt the interior was a big step up from the 3&4 series as well and it did feel like a very special place behind the wheel. It is a massive car though and I’m sure it cannot be much smaller than a 7 series but will virtually no rear passenger room. For looks, interior and engine it is brilliant but would like to drive the new M3/M4.
It’s actually not even close to 7 series in size.. it’s quite smaller when you see it in person. Not that big of a car
Great honest review
Alpina and the 8 Series are a match made in heaven. The M treatment just detracts from GT requirements. 😮
I think the F87 M2 CS looks as good or better on the outside, and from the sound of it is way more fun to drive on public roads. The CS doesn't have the engine note or some of the interior luxury touches, but it's also less money and has a back seat that fits adults without issue.
I did say potentially best BMW on sale today, the F87 CS is long gone.
@@JoeAchilles1 For sure, understood. In the US for whatever reason it's pretty easy to pick up a used F87 CS with very few miles for decent prices, and they are still in the factory warranty period. The last M2 CS on BaT sold for $82,500 with 4,700 miles, blue with less miles sold for $86,500.
M2CS looked good but this M8 has to be the best! M2CS can never turn heads as much as this car! M8 is loved by all ages. But for sure the M2CS will always be the favourite child in the family
Great video. Very enjoyable. The M8 is just glorious. Really like it
I’d definitely choose a nicely spec’d 911 over this. The M8 needs something to make it more special or desirable.
It looks better than a 911. It is also easy to buy for msrp or cheaper used unlike the 911.
Fantastic, honest review. Really down to earth "chat in a pub" type discussion. For now I'll stick with my 640D and wait a few years for the 8 series to come down to normal money !
640d it's great car so I can't blame You 😁👌
Why by a 6 series in diesel? You have a pretty and slow car… I don’t get it. Like if you’re worried about mpg why by that beautiful car and ruin it with a diesel? Get a 3 series touring and chill
. Here in the UK, fuel is stupidly expensive for starters so MPG counts. Not least that the 640D is far from slow. Its very quick for a big car and the twin turbo engine can be tuned to over 400 BHP...not that I have.
@@MigElite1 very easily tuned have 435d gc with an intercooler and map, runs 11.9, crazy for a diesel and still retains great mpg
@@LafemmebearMusic Its plenty fast enough for the real world lets be honest. It also is in another world with the interior quality than the 5 series and is much more suited to longer trips and a 3/4 series. Not everything is a 0-60 drag race. btw, the 40i is garbage. Ive driven it and the lack of torque is evident. Th 50i engine is a pile of crap as well, about as reliable as a paper straw.
I was thinking of changing to an M8 Comp Gran from a 2018 640d. After seeing this I’m not sure. My current car may not be as fast but it looks great and has plenty of power when needed
Plenty of other reviews out there to convince you otherwise.
That spec is top notch the white interior is soo nice🎉
Had an 840d as a courtesy car for a week and loved it! Was a total downer getting my 1 seres back 😅
Great review Joe. Would you ever consider reviewing some modern classic BMWs?
Had one as a loaner when my i8 broke. Incredible performance but a bit of a barge. Did think about getting one to replace the i8 but settled on a G82 xdrive.
I am in love with this car. Time to place my order!!!
I rode the GC once and I have never ever rode in something that got me excited more. We did 0-100 in 2.88 seconds in a family car and for me this car gave me biggest emotions and I have driven Pista, R35, tuned supra, 911 turbo and few more. The whole review depends on personal opinion
I had a GC for two weeks a few years ago, I drove it 3000 miles through France, Italy and Austria, it was a great car, nothing really special though, it lacked soul in the same way this coupe does.
@@JoeAchilles1 I wish man I’m in love with this car😩
Im currently deciding on either this or the 911 gts for my daily
Seeing as I could get a hell lot of more space on the Grand coupe I think I will choose the M8
I do have a 2020 Golf 7.5 R in case I dont want to fire up that V8 cause i dont want to drive it 200m to the shop and back so I think the M8 would be the smarter choice
The only reason to get the M850i instead of the M8 is a financial one. Both cars look great but the M8 exhausts make it more impressive when looking at the back. If people were offered either car for free I'm sure they'd all take the M8.
Great review. G82 x drive is next for me once my F82 gets too leggy!
Another great vid. If you could get your hands on an Alpina B8 I would be interested in your views.
Are some of the roads the same as Harry’s Garage ? Nice test route!
Big up bro , keep up the great work.
And one of my favourite cars 💪🏿💪🏿💯.
Very kool guy ......
I think the main issue is that its the M8 Comp. version like with the X5M Comp with both vehicles BMW turned the aggression on the suspension too much to where it hinders its comfort. for a SUV or a GT car. I think it would be better to just get the M850 version or just the plain M8, same with the X5.
I’ve had 6 BMWs and 7 911s, and my X5M was a pleasure to drive for a SAV. Porsche wouldn’t deal on a Cayenne S so I got the X5M for the same price. But all of my 911s have been flawless. I can’t say the same on my BMWs
Similar here. Had 5 Porsches (1 cayenne, 3. 911’s and a GT4) and two BMW’s. None really ever gave me any problems. Porsche is next level regarding reliability and customer service. Better than BMW for sure but also no real complaints about BMW.
Our 2022 530e that my mom drives is just spectacular car and value. Looking at a used M8 GC to use as a daily to replace my DB9.
Looks stupid good🔥
Recently traded in my superb 840d Convertible in Dravit Grey for a new (and yes, heavily discounted M8 Convertible!!). I would have loved another 840d, but that is no longer an option. So in favour of an Xdrive option and no real chance of securing a build slot (and discount) for an M850i I opted for a brand new unregistered M8 with big discount. I chose another ‘8’ as I am struggling with the design/tech filtering on to all other BMW models. Less ‘drivers car’ and more ‘techie wet dream’. Can say that after 3000 miles I do enjoy driving something a bit rare and having many bad experiences with Porsche UK (a previous car) nothing would get me to leave the BMW brand except for one thing….BMW’s obsession with technology not driving!!! One thing I have noticed since M8 Competition ownership…….The reduction in a***holes hanging off my rear bumper, so thats a positive angle that was not covered in the review!!😜
What do youmean by big discount? 30%?
Good job, Joe
Great review. Did I notice some “Harry Metcalfe” driving roads? Keep up the good work.
1st time here awesome review Joe I enjoyed all the Vid thank you
Can the carbon core be ordered when buying from BMW?
The 4.4 litre engines have a bad reputation for oil burning, and connecting rod bearing wear, mostly due, I'm sure, to the heat coming from the turbos causing the valve stem seals to dry up. Has BMW addressed this issue in this, the latest 4.4 litre?
The m8 has the newer version if the s63 . Old issues sorted
Nice cruiser!
Good video. I wonder if the LCI also has some suspension changes that create the stiffness you experienced instead of just the PZeros. I can't see the point in upgrading from my F13 M6 which has hydraulic steering and the DCT of course. I really found the steering on the M8 was the worst part
I dont think it is a suspension problem
I have an M8 and it is very comfortable
My thoughts are that he tested the csr on a very cold weather(as he mentioned at the end of the video), and the summer pzero become very stiff so will be uncomfortable
Nothing is so menacingly beautiful like the 8.
What is the parking assist like on BMWs as this is a massive car, just wondered as I have a Mercedes and a lot of people say they don’t use the park assist because it’s slow and you end up holding the traffic up for longer than if you parked it yourself.
Nice looking motor though and the 0 to 60 for a car this size is insane.
Great advise too I didn’t know anything about those in-depth checks very interesting.
BMW parking assistant is very smooth and pretty fast
@@jouhajohnny That’s interesting do you know of any comparison UA-cam videos BMW v Mercedes Park assist, so many people said Park assist in a busy multi story car park was slow and they felt they could park it quicker manually.
I had park assist on my GLE43 Coupe which worked abysmally. Constantly failing to scan spots and hitting the kerb so I just gave up with it.
Recently got an 840i and was hesitant to try the park assist, as I didn't want to kerb the wheels despite previously getting away with it on my tank of a GLE - to my surprise it works exceptionally well. It's literally a perfect park every time and it's far quicker and easier to use than the merc equivalent. Important to note the GLE was a 16 plate and the BMW is a 20 plate as the technology has changed a hell of a lot.
Honest - respect 👍
is the armrest heating only on the facelift 23 model?
Great review as always Joe….. Im a diehard BMW guy and have a 2019 F82CP as my daily! For me I never understood the M8 Comp, I wouldnt even entertain it in my consideration set as its a M5 Comp with less practicality! I accept its quicker than the M5C, but I just cant get on with the rear end looks wise (much like a X6M vs a X5M - just nope) and the fact an M5C is less money with better daily potential is the go for me!
I wonder if the M5 Grand Coup would be any different?
Cheers for the video!
@Officialjoeachilles - bugger off scammer, waste of your time and mine you Oxygen Thief!
The rear is the best part lol
I really like the styling especially in that colour. Nit-picking but I'm not a fan of all the brushed aluminium. Even if it's made well it still looks a bit cheap to me.
Unbelievable that this M8 Competition did 0-60 mph in 2.78 seconds. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS for a car that is that heavy. It punches well above its weight, and that is just a ballistic machine. BMW really does know how to build fast cars.
Do another review with different tires then.
And does that car have xdrive? If so why did the rear end slide out on you?
I was thinking exactly the same...im sure BMW would accommodate as Joe is a very respected BMW owner and his opinion is valid
Beautiful car, great performance. The only fly in the ointment is the uninspiring exhaust note...
Do you live next door to Harry as that road looks familiar??
I have the '23 M850i Conv and I like it better than the full fat M8 due to the slightly smoother ride (and much lower price). It is still a bit rough for a grand touring coupe. It is big and heavy but surprisingly nimble for nearly 4800lbs. Real world performance is no different M850i vs M8. I cannot use the full performance of the M850i so nearly another 100bhp doesn't matter on the street and who would really take an M8 Conv to the track? Coupe maybe. My M850i came with the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetric 5 RF tires, which are surprisingly good for a RF. It is a daily driver, and I have snows on it now. Summers going back on soon.
I have had several other BMWs over the years, including a couple of M3s (E90). That was much more of a hooligan car. Far less refined, but also less isolated and the S65 V8 is a very entertaining engine. I agree the new M4 Conv is a better driver than the 8 but I cannot get past the face. I just cannot. BMW has gone in a direction I cannot follow. The 8 series price is silly for what it is - but I really enjoy mine. I like the V8 rumble. I like the specialness. It is the prettiest BMW out there now (which is admittedly not a really high bar). No surprise it is going out of production in 2025 and is not going to be replaced. The 8 series is going away (again).
Not sure what my next car will be....
I agree, the P-Zero is nowhere near as good a the Pilot 4S. I had both on my Jag F-Type R and the Pilot 4S was a night and day difference over the P-Zero. Neither should be driven in the cold but the P-Zero is useless below 45 deg F (7 deg C). PS4 gives better ride, less twitchy, better grip (in dry and wet). I will be switching to it when I replace the Goodyears in the M850i. And I am NOT a brand ambassador for Michelin. But if Michelin wants to talk.......
Excellent review, as always. Nicely done Joe.
Perfect! 💙🤍👊
Any follow up to the 2024 ver?
Can you do another video with Jon from Forensic Detailing?
Great video. Damn that looks like a mustang gt350 right there 0:22
The looks of this car are out of this world
Finally a review that rightfully points out that the main competitor to this car is the BMW M4. The main problem of this car is that it's way overpriced, and it doesn't offer any benefit over the M4, other than being the more expensive car (which to some buyers seems to be a selling point...).
is the m4 faster?
@@conormcgregor-rj5dkwith mods, the M4 can easily make 700hp to around 1,000Hp at a much less overall cost than the M8 and it handles better. That is why the M4 is a very popular BMW model.
Joe, when you be doing a review of the M4 Competition XDrive?
beautiful Mustang
I have an 2020 M8 convertible with ultimate pack - 911 was never an option for me, think its the wrong comparison personally. I wanted a GT (the 911 just isn’t) and like the bottomless performance; and it’s much more dynamic than some in the comments (that may not have driven one) suggest. Also never had an issue with ride quality; it’s DEFINITELY a GT car, in the UK and driving through Ireland and France. Mine is on Michelins though…
Same here
I now have a 2022 coupe in nyc that i daily and it is very comfortable
I had a 2020 convertible that i leased for 3 years, and i can say both were super comfy on NYC roads and behave like real GT cars
I like Joe's reviews, but i dont think he is right regarding this one
Also, when it is cold, those summer tires become hard like a stone and will change the car comfort level
Gran touring one is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
the interior looks amazing
Is that a Vancouver Canucks jersey on your avatar pic?
That M8 is the same price as the M3 Touring is in Norway..
Late to this.... Was speaking with a friend about his M3 Touring and my M340i Touring and we both agreed that while they were great cars, they weren't that much fin to drive. Far too good at what they do, that they take away involvement. For his fun, he goes out in his old M2. Me, well, I wonder about my old Golf 7.5R. Not as good a car as the BMW, but I think I found it more fun to drive.
Do you and Harry use the same test route??
I tried an 8 series with the M package...it was a WHALE! Not sure how the M8 is but this is a HEAVY car!
Totally agree with review. The 6 and now 8 series are very special cars. You have to own one to really appreciate how good they are. M8 however, not ever going to compete with 911. They are just too heavy to throw around. 840i, 840d are probably the best GT options, 850 would be the ultimate.
I'd like to see a comparative test among the m850i, SL 55 amg, 911 4s or 4 gts and the new granturismo trofeo (also awd). Also, too bad jaguar doesn't offer anything in this segment anymore
Funny thing. 2 door cars of old had space for at least 4 passengers. Modern 2 doors are much larger & longer but cannot seat 2 at the back. What’s happened?
Design
Looks like you use the same roads as Harry's Garage?
Those wheels are beautiful
Like your reviews except for tire bias. I love pzeros on G80 and prefer stiffer sidewall. Hated my michelin 4S sidewall and steering feel. Everything else the tire was excellent. One is not better than the other. Just different. Glad we have choices instead of continuously making bad comments about a brand you don't like.
I also hated p-zeros. Fast wear, low traction and comfort when not in perfect conditions. He is allowed to voice his opinion.
As a second hand purchase it's miles ahead of the Porsche. Especially a 850 I or an 840d .
It's a GT not a sports car so the 850 is way better as a car and way cheaper . It's not a Porsche competitor it's so much more and the 850 GC is the better option.great review as always from JA .
Very nice Joe. Best looking auto in the entire lineup, plus a beast. Shame that it's insanely priced.
Maybe the best of a bad bunch, still a dog to look at imo
@@teflondon4963 I'd loose any argument😂
Nothing better looking than a Blue M-Car 😎
have this exact car and I paid 110k with 2000 miles on the it. They are insane values at that point considering they run 10.5 bone stock. the car is the best of both worlds, sport and luxury. i came from an e63 amg and the bmw is half a second faster and traps 6mph faster in the 1/4 mile. hard to beat.
It drives good but rear Axl feeling is strange and the engine sounds are coming out the speakers...
I picked an M850 one the M4 based almost purely on the fact that the M4 is horrifically ugly to my eyes. Also, the noises the V8 8s make, sooo good.
Would look better with tinted front windows or no tint on rear windows