Belos' ear is kind of pointed yes, but not THAT pointy. Someone on reddit suggested it kind of looks like a human ear cut up to pass as a witch-ear, which is kind of gnarly. If the Grimwalker theory is true, he's giving me serious Horde Prime vibes too. Creepy Luz could be a grimwalker too, though I'm not sure Belos would've been able to send her through the portal. Which makes me think there's another interested party that either has portals or is able to make grimwalkers on Earth, somehow.
If his ear is a Human ear shaped to be like a witch ear maybe the cut is a mishap from cutting his ear. He might have slipped up a bit and created a small cut
concept: the code is talking about hunter,, we meet him by the seething seas, he's a puppet on strings for Belos and it obvious hunter is lacking sleep/dreams with dark rings under his eyes. maybe the next part is "he will be an offering"? it makes sense to me options on this theory?
so your saying the ending of the poem could be, Seething seas and puppet strings He no longer dreams Thee will be the offering ( sorry my inner poet wanted to use thee)
My theory is that Phillip was cursed like Eda, a curse that turns him into...Swamp Thing. Like Eda he probably used elixir to keep it at bay, but, again like Eda, it eventually got to the point where elixirs weren't enough anymore so he turned to palisman. And I'm thinking that their magic not only helped with is curse, but kept him alive all these years. But when palistrum wood started to become more and more rare, he knew he needed a new plan to survive. He needed a new body. That's when he created Hunter.
That's possible. Remember S1's secret code? "Two Witches Torn Apart Now Alone, Two Hearts Of Stone. A Curse Of Feathers And Mud. A Betrayal Of Blood” Eda's the one who has the curse of feathers and Belos has the curse of mud!
@@fakename8713 in the grimwalker recipe the galdorSTONE is its heart, and Hunter's uncle Belos its definitely going to betray him (or maybe it is refering to titan's blood)
@@m.v.gonzalez5575 "two hearts of stone. A betrayal of blood. " we thought it was about eda and lillith but it was about hunter and belos ALL ALONG! Even before we were introduced to him! That's so cool!
The first thing I googled was what is a Grimwalker, because I had never heard of this kind of creature before. This show has been good about using mystical creatures like Kikimora and selkies as the base for their characters and animals. But the only thing I could find about Grimwalkers was from World of Warcraft with a character having that last name. My knowledge of WoW is very little outside of my friends playing it. But digging a bit, I saw that the Grimwalker character is a species called a Tauren. They’re bipedal creatures with huge horns. And Belos, as we seen, has horns in his mud form. This is a very long way of saying that I think someone on the Owl House crew is probably a World of Warcraft fan and could have possibly given a nod to the game. I don’t think it’s a theory for anything else but more of a possibly fun Easter egg. Great video, Whitney!
Hunter is definitely gonna be a sacrifice of some kind I only hope he realises it before it’s too late, he deserves a better parental figure like Eda someone who will love him and make him feel like he’s more than just what he can accomplish, also I can imagine being powerless has probably gotten him bullied, in summary Hunter needs a hug ❤️
With the way that his arc is going, he seems to be forming at least some sort of bond with the main cast leads me to believe that he is going to die right as he realizes that belos is in the wrong
I really hope he does get out of the situation he’s in though the emperors coven is the only thing he’s ever known so he wouldn’t know where to go maybe he could pull a zuko? Idk lol
This episode for me just confirms hunters a clone and probably a sacrifice for the door? I love the idea of Belos being a palisman I haven't thought of that!
My theories after this episode: Bellos knew because of his omnipotence that Kikimora tried to attack and kill Hunter. So he sent her away on pointless missions to keep her away from his real key to the day of unity.The magic overtime has altered Bellos appearance through experimentation by him. The magic in them that Bellos had. Perhaps he needs Titans blood. My guess is he knew the lake had none and that’s why he told Hunter to stay away. Because as a clone, Hunter has that Titans blood and would be key to the sacrifice so bellos can live to see the unity of world. He was able to repair and after his body. It’s why he has like moss holding up a portion of his face. It would also explain why hide his face from his subjects and it gives a good reason for why he needs Hunter. My guess is the DOU needs a sacrifice of a being with. Why I think Bellos is still Phillip is simple. We saw the flashbacks play throughout this episode after we saw his face. I think the buildup is going to be that we see Phillip begins to age and decay, but by using Titans blood, palismen and other things found in the isles.
Maybe bellos is possibly a palisman that's decaying because he is using the life essence of Palisman to help rejuvenate himself and prevent him from becoming uncontrolled
Yes, it’s another great show on Disney. Which does have some dark moments, but cannibalism may be something a bit to dark for Disney. Marcy at least lived.
"two witches torn apart, now alone. two hearts of stone. a curse of feathers and mud, a betrayal of blood." could loosely fit belos and hunter, especially the "mud" and "two hearts of stone" parts.
@@roysparkizay could it also reference both? Two witches being eda and Lilith. Two hearts of stone being belos and hunter. A curse of feathers (eda/Lilith) and mud (belos) . A betrayal of titan blood? Family blood for both eda and hunter? Etc?
There's also this theory that belos IS still phillip but he cut his ear into shape. The other ears appear to be a lot more rounded than belos', his are not curved and are rather flat on the edges.
Well im happy Amity called Luz her Gf as does Luz and we now her palisman is a white cat name ghost! Bit of a surprise they showed his face halfway in the season and not during the finale and that he looks human relative to his mysterious curse and i hope Hunter makes it out with little rascal
And Belos could made it same time as Hunter. Because we never see that boy before. But how can Belos teleport fakeLuz in the humans world? What was happened du final of 1st and beginning of 2nd season? May Belos successfully reached human world with some drops of titan blood?
I’m wondering if the titan doesn’t have enough matter to reconstitute its entire body since it’s original flesh has slowly decayed due to lying in the boiling sea for so long. Belos could be bringing both the human world and demon realm together to give the titan more matter to absorb since there’s so little land in the demon realm, but Earth has a fair amount more.
Given the amount of development Hunter has been given so far, i wonder if at some point he'll start to wonder if he's on the right side anymore?...because you never know Hunter might switch sides on Belos.
@@anextremlyobbisehoovy8254 yeah just like Quetzalcoatl, would be very cool since Quetzalcoatl has always had a cool design even in old 600 year-old paintings
Belos himself being a clone of Phillip actually makes sense, even when considering the pointed ears, since nothing specifically says that the clone has to be identical to the original. The grimwalker is likely considered a type of demon on the isles, so it would naturally have pointed ears if it is a humanoid one. Then when Phillip body swaps into it, of course he'd still have the ears. It also isn't a Biped demon, as we now know that all Bipeds on the boiling isles have magic, so it's likely that it is considered a beast (or much like king, an entirely unique class of demon. Maybe synthetic)
the poem could have been referencing the Titan. I've had a theory that Phillip got possessed by the Titan and was using him and his inventions to find a way to bring itself back to life (but, that's just my take on the whole "Who is Belos?" situation). If your theory of Belos (and Hunter) being a Grimwalker that's possessed by Phillip is true, then how or where did Phillip get the knowledge to even make a Grimwalker, let alone posses it, anyway? did he find it in some old tome lost to the ages? or did he get the info from someone or something ancient and sinister, like say... the Titan itself????
My Theory is that Phillip mentioned "my friends weren't so lucky" in the journal diary (season 2 episode 9), Belos was Phillip's friend who got teleported briefly to the human realm but was involved in the classic "transporter accident" so his magic essence got scrambled but as Philip didn't see Belos whilst he was teleported by the fool's blood Philip assumed him dead.. now Belos, made from "wild magic" aka fools blood is left as a magic vampire, the coven glyphs being a way of syphoning small amounts of magic from each user as well as him harnessing the essence from Palismans and the longer that Belos exists the more his essence becomes unstable and he gliches out The Grimwaker entry that we see in the book at the beginning of the episode is boiling isles name for a Homonculus aka an artificial being. Belos is creating another body so that he can... unify with it (day of unity reference) but due to not having any titan blood at that time when Belos made Hunter that is why hunter has no natural magic as well as not wanting another source of magic incase it too causes instability when belos tries to fuse with hunter
To me this foreshadows that she may end up doing something more messed up by the end, something that may even piss Belos off, which is the opposite of what she wants and Belos may end up trying to kill her... but then again that's my theory
I have a feeling that Belos is still trying to get all these items to make a Grimwalker since Belos needed a selkidomus killed (or he already created hunter and didn’t want anybody to do the same) and in the looking glass ruins I think all of the galdorstones were taken (you could check as evidence for the hunter being a creation theory) OR the reason why Hunter is powerless is because Belos never got the galdorstone
My dream epilogue for Yesterday Lie is that Luz gets to her home, knocks the door, gets ready to greet her mom and when the door opens and shes about to say hi, the clones is the one who greets her. With a smile, it says to her that shes been waiting for her and invites her inside telling her that they have a lot to discuss
I can see that Belois was human but he became a witch somehow and one of the strongest people in the Boiling Isles and created Hunter as a clone and to properly take over once he comes that shadow like creature we saw before and not to mention that he had a book with notes on a grim walker. I love Amity and Hunter battle it was so cool and had an amazing reference to Dragon B
Me sitting here, waiting for s3, knowing damn well what they both actually are and giggling about whats right and wrong with the grimwalker theories. Tbh its really cool to see everyones theories in the past and be like “omg thats so close” or “hehe thats not right” I have no clue why but its great
I think the mystery code may end in ‘kings’, looking to poetry the poet ozymadias is about a king falling to his hubris. I’m guessing the king in this situation may be hunter as he may turn away from bellos and hubris
Seething seas and puppet strings He no longer dreams- if "kings" "wings" and "sings" could be in the next line, King has voice powers now, and we've seen how King's dad clearly has wings. What if it's not so much of a poem as it is a prophecy👀 The "puppet strings" could be tied to Belos being a titan's figure head, Hunter being used as a vessel, or maybe even amity and the blights. The, "he no longer dreams", may be referencing grim walkers, or nore, phillip's clone being hunter, and "dreams" being like sleep in the context of death. It could aslo be referring to the titan's corpse. Puppet strings may also be connected to the sigils/marks that the coven heads have, seeing as how raine's mark took over their body. It may be more metaphorical, for using the coven heads as ways to trick the boiling isles inhabitants to do Belos's dirty work and rid of wild magic.
In this episodes it's at least confirmed that hunter doesn't need specific tech to do magic he just needs a staff the tech staff is probably because they can't afford to waste a palismen because of belos' condition
Hmmm, I'd wager the body swap spell is just so we can see whos who since when lilith went to go see Eda (Luz) she didn't react to the fact that the eyes and behavior were wrong from normal and she recognized her immediatly in covention. I think Hunter is a stockpile of life force. Belos body is decaying and he is making a new body but where do you get the life force from? Why the teenager you've abused to the point where he can't recognize geniune kindness
I think belos has like consumed titan blood and my reason is cos like while Philip was describing titan bloods he said it was Tree like and his face thingy looks tree like and has like portal bubble holes. This can also explain how he can talk to the Titan
the pages are connected and it reminds of a simalcrum a copy of a person made of mud or snow they also have half the orignals power so after a while there would be none
I think the poem is about Hunter! ‘Seething Seas’ (roughly where we first had our first interaction with the Golden Guard) ‘and puppet strings’ (hunter being basically Belos’s puppet) ‘he no longer dreams..’ and I think the last part will be ‘he no longer dreams of having wings’ because of Hunters new Palisman! And we know Hunter cant go back empty handed so maybe he didnt go back at all because we see Hunter leave while talking to his palisman at the end of the episode, which could symbolize his new start in the world. Just a theory, thanks!
Same! On the last part I feel like it’s referencing to his eye bags and lack of sleep, we might get a look into hunters dreams or flashbacks? Who knows.
I also think Belos could be trying to resurrect the Titan! From the jump, I've been thinking that perhaps somehow, some large or vital part of the Titan was taken and hidden within the human world to prevent anyone (Possibly even to prevent Belos/another Phillip clone) from resurrecting the Titan. So he needs to be able to get to the human world in order to *unify* the Titan. Here's some more thoughts I have further that are less substantiated: And it'd be impossible to just move the Titan piece by piece, or perhaps all that would be required is for every piece of the Titan to be within the same dimension in order for it to reawaken. So unifying the realms physically would bring the Titan back if all it requires is for all of its parts to be in the same dimension. Belos wouldn't even have to bother looking for the missing part. All he'd have to do is bring the Titan to the human realm and it'd be able to rise again.
Sure hope Hunter is not an obvious clone and that he is Belos true relative! I believe in the midseason finale we will get Camilla and what occured to warrant finding Luz!
I forget but In one of the scenes you can see a book belos had and it was open and if had hunters nose shape and eye color meaning he was a creation of materials also when belos said that it’d be too much of a hassle to replace him he meant because if the hard to find materials to make hunter this also explains why he is powerless as he wouldn’t have that magic thingy attached to his heart
I think that Belos just wants to get out of the boiling Isles so then they don’t need to worry about the weather there and trying to bring the titan to keep the magic too
Remember how there's another Luz in the human realm? Theory One, what if Phillip that went into the wizard world, Belos went into the human world & fell in love with it with our technology. After Phillip went back, Belos was sent back as well & he wants to return. Theory 2, Belos was Phillip friend, & they worked together to improve magic with technology. After Belos went into the human world, Belos told Phillip his plan & Phillip decided to throw the portal away. Everything Phillip is saying in the document, Belos is aware about it as well so they are connected in some way.
No longer dreams of having wings could be right. Birds and their ability to fly is often used to symbolize freedom. If belos IS Philip, his freedom would’ve been returning home, but he no longer wants that, so he no longer dream of returning home. Maybe he was corrupted by the titan blood while he was meddling with it? Maybe the titan is trying to get to the human world and forcing him to say.
Well after what hunter said about not wanting to be replaced and all and Belos saying it’s a hassle to find a replacement, it’s possible hunter is a clone of Belos and maybe Belos is a clone of Philip. My theory is These clones are meant to take over when the previous ruler is unable to and hunter will rule once Belos is unable to or steps down. Furthermore if that’s the case it’s possible that Philip might have ruled originally but when he got to old he created Belos take over as ruler once he stepped down and possess his body.
Seething basically means anger and lots of people say I've reached my boiling point that can mean the boiling Isles puppet strings that's can refer to the Titan he no longer that can mean he's waking up
Although I like the thing of them being clones, I find more alluring that they are merely descendants. With Hunter having ancestors that were both born with and without 'natural' magic. The thought of Wittebane having started a family and friends in the new world is also pretty alluring for me, and actually can call for some pretty interesting prequels, who knows (wishful thinking ftw)
New Theory: When Luz is texting Amity we see that Amitys icon is a cat just like her palisman. We see that Luz's icon is a bat, so does that mean that Luz's future palisman is going to be a bat?
@@rosequartz4708 You could be right about the bat, but I think it's going to be a snake. If you look at the shows logo, The O in owl is Owlbert and part of the H in House forms his staff. The L in Owl also looks like an upside down staff and right under it is an S that looks like a snake... Also, Luz has several connections to snakes throughout the show (she sets them loose in the school, snake arms, she hisses many times)
I have a different theory. The Grimmwalker material is neither of them, but a plan for Belos to cure his condition. He knows that like with Eda's elixirs his treatment is not going to last forever, so he plans to make a new stronger body free of his condition. Thoughts?
I must say, I proud and impressed, that Ida was recognized Hunters voice, when he's deskised. Another prove that series is about to be smart. PS Maybe the next pare of word will be :"... No longer has _his_ears_" 😉
I think the eye changing part is probably the most interesting aspect of this theory because it actually enables Belos to be Wittebane himself. A big problem that I had had with Belos being a clone himself was that he didn't have the Grimwalker eyes. And on the other hand since Belos had the witch-like ears it felt strange for him to be a Wittebane clone since shouldn't a clone of a human also have human ears? But with eye-swapping being included in the body-swapping it all makes sense. Wittebane has swapped his blue eyes in place of the red eyes of the Grimwalker. Also with the Grimwalker being more of a homunculus (a purely constructed body) instead of an one-to--one clone could explain how a clone of a human would have pointed ears. It could be possible that due to the construction materials being native to the demon realm the clone itself also takes a witch-like form a la pointed ears even if the Ortet/original is a human. It could even be that over multiple clonings the ears slowly developed into more and more witch-like form which would explain their smaller size and them being "half-witch" like. Additional thoughts: Since palistrome wood is the keratin of the body it might explain why Belos needs palismen to sustain himself. It might be that the sap/magic of palismen is finite in the Grimwalker body and in order to keep it going it needs to feed more Palisman sap to sustain its form.
Hmmm what if any human who goes to the demon realm leave a duplicate of themselves and will switch with each other when the human goes back would answer creepy luz
My personal take on Belos’s ear is that, if he is Philip, the ears are some form of genetic mutation from the drinking and or sniffing of palisman essence.
I don’t think there clones, Philip is just their ancestors. So they are half human and half witch. That s why most of their family members are magicless.
I'm not so sure about the eye colour swapping bit because of a small detail in the body swap episode and this might just be an animator mistake but who knows Ok, so the eye swapping thing with the body swapping may be wrong because in the body swap episode at the end where Eda swapping everyone around their eye colours are the same. Of course the guards and the old ladies all have blue eyes but Basha and her team have their respective eye colour, even tho they may not be obvious. I forgot some of their names but green haired girl still has her olive green eyes and Skara has her grey eyes. I'm not sure about Basha's blue eyes but i can't tell with all the blue eyes. And the other dude, kinda forgot about him. And for Lilith, I think her eyes are the only teal coloured ones and they stayed the same but who knows if the dog has teal eyes. This could possibly break the theory or be a slip but I hope the theory here in this video is right since it's very interesting to speculate but idk this is just food for thought while I'm writing this at 3am
Belos scar could be a part of a curse like Eda and her feather. He could have a curse of octopus of some sort because the black spot are the little nod of tentacles.
Idk if anyone knows this but if we get the first letter from the episodes so far *S*eparate tides *E*scaping Expulsiom *E*choes of the past *K*eeping up a-fear-ances *T*hrough the looking glass *H*unting Palismen *E*d'a Requiem *K*nock Knock Knocking on hooty's door *E*clipse Lake *Y*esterday's lie We get to the word "SEEKTHEKEY" like certain portal key certain character stoles perhaps?
I never thought about the possible reason why Belos has the Silkidomus being killed is so that Hunter won't create a Grimwalker himself. It could be possible becuase he likely knows that Hunter would be mad about the body swap and if there was another possible way for him to survive then he could stop him
With regard to the mystery code, I see it as relating to the Titan itself. Maybe Bellos is planning to raise the Titan from the seas through something akin to necromancy and control it like a puppet, or maybe the Titan or Witabane is puppeting Bellos. I still think it's possible that Bellos is just an advanced abomination being controlled by an old and decrepit Witabane kept alive by magic in a wizard of Oz style man behind the curtain move.
Everyone expected Belos to be Philip, which has lead to people considering it “too obvious” of a backstory for him and speculating that he is instead a descendant of Philip. Honestly, though, I prefer the theory that he is Philip himself and is either a possessed Grimwalker as you theorized, or just cut his ears to match the witches (notice we only ever saw his right ear), since it, however predictable, holds a lot more emotional and thematic weight. Philip would be a dark reflection of Luz, a human who stumbled into the Boiling Isles and “became a witch” despite possessing no natural magic, but somewhere he went wrong, overtook the Isles, and became…Emperor Belos. He’s been there because he’s from there, and I’m sure he misses it as much as Luz does, even if his intent isn’t just to return home. If he was just a descendant of Philip who heard stories of Earth from his ancestors, where would the thematic resonance be? That’s even more important than being surprising. But what do I know? Belos could be anyone!
I think your theory is spot-on but there’s still a piece to to puzzle I can’t figure out was is The Creepy Luz factor. I wonder if there’s some time of time travel shenanigans afoot?
Bro when I saw the emperor's face I was like where's the real emperor. There's no way that this is what the emperor looks like. But I still do really like the design.
Belos' ear is kind of pointed yes, but not THAT pointy. Someone on reddit suggested it kind of looks like a human ear cut up to pass as a witch-ear, which is kind of gnarly. If the Grimwalker theory is true, he's giving me serious Horde Prime vibes too.
Creepy Luz could be a grimwalker too, though I'm not sure Belos would've been able to send her through the portal. Which makes me think there's another interested party that either has portals or is able to make grimwalkers on Earth, somehow.
Yeah Belos's ear does look like a human ear cut up to pass a witch
i think creepy luz is actually the collector.
If his ear is a Human ear shaped to be like a witch ear maybe the cut is a mishap from cutting his ear. He might have slipped up a bit and created a small cut
I have a feeling Belos is a Lich, ie an undead wizard, keeping him alive on other creature's sustenance
like the philosopher's stone I. Harry Potter or some shit
i just finished the adventure zone: balance yesterday, so i lost my mind when you said "lich"
liches get stitches
@@Whosthisbitch26 that’s exactly what I thought. If reminded me when Voldemort was surviving off of unicorn blood.
Hes becoming more and more like the lich from adventure time 😳
Yess I also believe that
concept: the code is talking about hunter,, we meet him by the seething seas, he's a puppet on strings for Belos and it obvious hunter is lacking sleep/dreams with dark rings under his eyes. maybe the next part is "he will be an offering"? it makes sense to me options on this theory?
Very interesting!!
Also Dana Terrace keeps noting how Hunter is so tired all the time 😳
Well that makes perfect sense 😭👌🏼👍🏼
so your saying the ending of the poem could be,
Seething seas and puppet strings
He no longer dreams
Thee will be the offering
( sorry my inner poet wanted to use thee)
@@chetanasatyanarayana4524 omgg its probably gonna be that :000
My theory is that Phillip was cursed like Eda, a curse that turns him into...Swamp Thing. Like Eda he probably used elixir to keep it at bay, but, again like Eda, it eventually got to the point where elixirs weren't enough anymore so he turned to palisman. And I'm thinking that their magic not only helped with is curse, but kept him alive all these years. But when palistrum wood started to become more and more rare, he knew he needed a new plan to survive. He needed a new body. That's when he created Hunter.
That's possible. Remember S1's secret code? "Two Witches Torn Apart Now Alone, Two Hearts Of Stone. A Curse Of Feathers And Mud. A Betrayal Of Blood”
Eda's the one who has the curse of feathers and Belos has the curse of mud!
@@fakename8713 in the grimwalker recipe the galdorSTONE is its heart, and Hunter's uncle Belos its definitely going to betray him (or maybe it is refering to titan's blood)
@@fakename8713 omg-
@@m.v.gonzalez5575 "two hearts of stone. A betrayal of blood. " we thought it was about eda and lillith but it was about hunter and belos ALL ALONG! Even before we were introduced to him! That's so cool!
Belos is not Philip cuz he has a pointy ears
The first thing I googled was what is a Grimwalker, because I had never heard of this kind of creature before. This show has been good about using mystical creatures like Kikimora and selkies as the base for their characters and animals. But the only thing I could find about Grimwalkers was from World of Warcraft with a character having that last name. My knowledge of WoW is very little outside of my friends playing it. But digging a bit, I saw that the Grimwalker character is a species called a Tauren. They’re bipedal creatures with huge horns. And Belos, as we seen, has horns in his mud form. This is a very long way of saying that I think someone on the Owl House crew is probably a World of Warcraft fan and could have possibly given a nod to the game. I don’t think it’s a theory for anything else but more of a possibly fun Easter egg. Great video, Whitney!
Hunter is definitely gonna be a sacrifice of some kind I only hope he realises it before it’s too late, he deserves a better parental figure like Eda someone who will love him and make him feel like he’s more than just what he can accomplish, also I can imagine being powerless has probably gotten him bullied, in summary Hunter needs a hug ❤️
Will the hunter have a bad ending in the final battle later?
With the way that his arc is going, he seems to be forming at least some sort of bond with the main cast leads me to believe that he is going to die right as he realizes that belos is in the wrong
I really hope he does get out of the situation he’s in though the emperors coven is the only thing he’s ever known so he wouldn’t know where to go maybe he could pull a zuko? Idk lol
@@thatsprettycool3992 Well now we’re going into infinity train territory but I really do hope he doesn’t die like another blonde haired antagonist
This episode for me just confirms hunters a clone and probably a sacrifice for the door? I love the idea of Belos being a palisman I haven't thought of that!
Bruh. I jokingly commented in one video that Belos is a palisman. Now it seems to become a full-fledged theory.
can you tell me where you watch episode 9?
@@oray_2562 honestly I watch the entire show when it airs on tv sorry 😅
On primewire or just on UA-cam it has most of the episodes
@@lavenderbxx oh lol idont use tv much thanks doe
My theories after this episode:
Bellos knew because of his omnipotence that Kikimora tried to attack and kill Hunter. So he sent her away on pointless missions to keep her away from his real key to the day of unity.The magic overtime has altered Bellos appearance through experimentation by him. The magic in them that Bellos had. Perhaps he needs Titans blood. My guess is he knew the lake had none and that’s why he told Hunter to stay away. Because as a clone, Hunter has that Titans blood and would be key to the sacrifice so bellos can live to see the unity of world. He was able to repair and after his body. It’s why he has like moss holding up a portion of his face. It would also explain why hide his face from his subjects and it gives a good reason for why he needs Hunter. My guess is the DOU needs a sacrifice of a being with. Why I think Bellos is still Phillip is simple. We saw the flashbacks play throughout this episode after we saw his face. I think the buildup is going to be that we see Phillip begins to age and decay, but by using Titans blood, palismen and other things found in the isles.
Maybe bellos is possibly a palisman that's decaying because he is using the life essence of Palisman to help rejuvenate himself and prevent him from becoming uncontrolled
This would be a bit dark but a really interesting backstory to see play out in the show.
@@smashbrother2244 well have u seen amphibia
Yes, it’s another great show on Disney. Which does have some dark moments, but cannibalism may be something a bit to dark for Disney. Marcy at least lived.
So wait if Hunter is a grim walker, he has a literal stone for a heart. Huh.
"two witches torn apart, now alone. two hearts of stone. a curse of feathers and mud, a betrayal of blood." could loosely fit belos and hunter, especially the "mud" and "two hearts of stone" parts.
@@roysparkizay Ooh! Yeah that’s a good idea!
@@roysparkizay you blew my mindffd
@@roysparkizay could it also reference both? Two witches being eda and Lilith. Two hearts of stone being belos and hunter. A curse of feathers (eda/Lilith) and mud (belos) . A betrayal of titan blood? Family blood for both eda and hunter? Etc?
@@awakatilluminado6129 feathers could potentially also apply to hunter's palisman although i'm not sure how
God if the body swap episode actually ends up being plot relevant that's gonna be insane
There's also this theory that belos IS still phillip but he cut his ear into shape. The other ears appear to be a lot more rounded than belos', his are not curved and are rather flat on the edges.
YOU ARE CORRECT
Well im happy Amity called Luz her Gf as does Luz and we now her palisman is a white cat name ghost! Bit of a surprise they showed his face halfway in the season and not during the finale and that he looks human relative to his mysterious curse and i hope Hunter makes it out with little rascal
What if Luz's doppleganger is a grimwalker?????
And Belos could made it same time as Hunter. Because we never see that boy before.
But how can Belos teleport fakeLuz in the humans world? What was happened du final of 1st and beginning of 2nd season? May Belos successfully reached human world with some drops of titan blood?
Great theory! But sadly not true
I’m wondering if the titan doesn’t have enough matter to reconstitute its entire body since it’s original flesh has slowly decayed due to lying in the boiling sea for so long. Belos could be bringing both the human world and demon realm together to give the titan more matter to absorb since there’s so little land in the demon realm, but Earth has a fair amount more.
Given the amount of development Hunter has been given so far, i wonder if at some point he'll start to wonder if he's on the right side anymore?...because you never know Hunter might switch sides on Belos.
Also, we got references to Luz's palisman, which is probably either a Bat or a Snake, or maybe even a combination of both
You mean like questlaquatlus (the god not the teranadon)
@@anextremlyobbisehoovy8254 yeah just like Quetzalcoatl, would be very cool since Quetzalcoatl has always had a cool design even in old 600 year-old paintings
Maybe snake with bat wings
Belos himself being a clone of Phillip actually makes sense, even when considering the pointed ears, since nothing specifically says that the clone has to be identical to the original. The grimwalker is likely considered a type of demon on the isles, so it would naturally have pointed ears if it is a humanoid one. Then when Phillip body swaps into it, of course he'd still have the ears. It also isn't a Biped demon, as we now know that all Bipeds on the boiling isles have magic, so it's likely that it is considered a beast (or much like king, an entirely unique class of demon. Maybe synthetic)
If Hunter is Belos clone, is that mean that Creepy Luz on Earth is a Grimwalker
Belo’s face wasn’t what anyone expected
the poem could have been referencing the Titan. I've had a theory that Phillip got possessed by the Titan and was using him and his inventions to find a way to bring itself back to life (but, that's just my take on the whole "Who is Belos?" situation). If your theory of Belos (and Hunter) being a Grimwalker that's possessed by Phillip is true, then how or where did Phillip get the knowledge to even make a Grimwalker, let alone posses it, anyway? did he find it in some old tome lost to the ages? or did he get the info from someone or something ancient and sinister, like say... the Titan itself????
My Theory is that Phillip mentioned "my friends weren't so lucky" in the journal diary (season 2 episode 9), Belos was Phillip's friend who got teleported briefly to the human realm but was involved in the classic "transporter accident" so his magic essence got scrambled but as Philip didn't see Belos whilst he was teleported by the fool's blood Philip assumed him dead..
now Belos, made from "wild magic" aka fools blood is left as a magic vampire, the coven glyphs being a way of syphoning small amounts of magic from each user as well as him harnessing the essence from Palismans and the longer that Belos exists the more his essence becomes unstable and he gliches out
The Grimwaker entry that we see in the book at the beginning of the episode is boiling isles name for a Homonculus aka an artificial being. Belos is creating another body so that he can... unify with it (day of unity reference)
but due to not having any titan blood at that time when Belos made Hunter that is why hunter has no natural magic as well as not wanting another source of magic incase it too causes instability when belos tries to fuse with hunter
Glad Eda not having full control of her new harpy form and she needs to work on it before the s2 finale or midseason break
Kikimora is loosing it and this episode proves it
Ikr lol
To me this foreshadows that she may end up doing something more messed up by the end, something that may even piss Belos off, which is the opposite of what she wants and Belos may end up trying to kill her... but then again that's my theory
So is hunter - they are both loosing their minds
@@tigerkat4419 yeah fair point
I have a feeling that Belos is still trying to get all these items to make a Grimwalker since Belos needed a selkidomus killed (or he already created hunter and didn’t want anybody to do the same) and in the looking glass ruins I think all of the galdorstones were taken (you could check as evidence for the hunter being a creation theory) OR the reason why Hunter is powerless is because Belos never got the galdorstone
OH THAT MAKES SENSE
If Belos treats Hunter the way he does all because Hunter is a grimwalker then that’s messed up because Hunter is a living breathing person
IKR. Our poor bad but sad boi. Eda’s words not mine. XD
My dream epilogue for Yesterday Lie is that Luz gets to her home, knocks the door, gets ready to greet her mom and when the door opens and shes about to say hi, the clones is the one who greets her. With a smile, it says to her that shes been waiting for her and invites her inside telling her that they have a lot to discuss
I can see that Belois was human but he became a witch somehow and one of the strongest people in the Boiling Isles and created Hunter as a clone and to properly take over once he comes that shadow like creature we saw before and not to mention that he had a book with notes on a grim walker. I love Amity and Hunter battle it was so cool and had an amazing reference to Dragon B
What if Belos becoming a witch is what's killing him?
@@lavenderbxx that’s a good theory as well and what does he turn into
Me sitting here, waiting for s3, knowing damn well what they both actually are and giggling about whats right and wrong with the grimwalker theories. Tbh its really cool to see everyones theories in the past and be like “omg thats so close” or “hehe thats not right” I have no clue why but its great
If these ideas pan out, Luz disguising herself as an Abomination could be a kind of foreshadowing for human to magical creature creations
I think the mystery code may end in ‘kings’, looking to poetry the poet ozymadias is about a king falling to his hubris. I’m guessing the king in this situation may be hunter as he may turn away from bellos and hubris
Loved this episode. It really helped me solve some theories and create some new ones
Seething seas and puppet strings
He no longer dreams-
if "kings" "wings" and "sings" could be in the next line, King has voice powers now, and we've seen how King's dad clearly has wings.
What if it's not so much of a poem as it is a prophecy👀
The "puppet strings" could be tied to Belos being a titan's figure head, Hunter being used as a vessel, or maybe even amity and the blights. The, "he no longer dreams", may be referencing grim walkers, or nore, phillip's clone being hunter, and "dreams" being like sleep in the context of death. It could aslo be referring to the titan's corpse.
Puppet strings may also be connected to the sigils/marks that the coven heads have, seeing as how raine's mark took over their body. It may be more metaphorical, for using the coven heads as ways to trick the boiling isles inhabitants to do Belos's dirty work and rid of wild magic.
The battle between Amity and Hunter is so beautiful. ❤️
In this episodes it's at least confirmed that hunter doesn't need specific tech to do magic he just needs a staff the tech staff is probably because they can't afford to waste a palismen because of belos' condition
Hmmm, I'd wager the body swap spell is just so we can see whos who since when lilith went to go see Eda (Luz) she didn't react to the fact that the eyes and behavior were wrong from normal and she recognized her immediatly in covention. I think Hunter is a stockpile of life force. Belos body is decaying and he is making a new body but where do you get the life force from? Why the teenager you've abused to the point where he can't recognize geniune kindness
I think belos has like consumed titan blood and my reason is cos like while Philip was describing titan bloods he said it was Tree like and his face thingy looks tree like and has like portal bubble holes. This can also explain how he can talk to the Titan
@WhitneyVision this is awesome. The owl house is one of my favorite shows. Keep up the supercalifragilisticexpialidocious work with the breakdowns
The section talking about the eyes is GENIUS!
"Brother, I hope you, too, are full of only love for Emperor Belos and have no crippling doubt eating at your soul."-Hunter, probably.
ahhh wrong hordak our sweet cinamon roll-
@@marcysnintendoswitch5174 our sweet muffin ^w^
a weak later we’re all saying he is his brother or descendent and hunter could possibly be down the tree more
the pages are connected and it reminds of a simalcrum a copy of a person made of mud or snow they also have half the orignals power so after a while there would be none
"Belos and Phillip aren't the same person"
Me: foreshadowing........
I thought the same thing!
I thought that Belos was becoming that wood
I think the poem is about Hunter! ‘Seething Seas’ (roughly where we first had our first interaction with the Golden Guard) ‘and puppet strings’ (hunter being basically Belos’s puppet) ‘he no longer dreams..’ and I think the last part will be ‘he no longer dreams of having wings’ because of Hunters new Palisman! And we know Hunter cant go back empty handed so maybe he didnt go back at all because we see Hunter leave while talking to his palisman at the end of the episode, which could symbolize his new start in the world.
Just a theory, thanks!
Same! On the last part I feel like it’s referencing to his eye bags and lack of sleep, we might get a look into hunters dreams or flashbacks? Who knows.
I also think Belos could be trying to resurrect the Titan! From the jump, I've been thinking that perhaps somehow, some large or vital part of the Titan was taken and hidden within the human world to prevent anyone (Possibly even to prevent Belos/another Phillip clone) from resurrecting the Titan.
So he needs to be able to get to the human world in order to *unify* the Titan.
Here's some more thoughts I have further that are less substantiated:
And it'd be impossible to just move the Titan piece by piece, or perhaps all that would be required is for every piece of the Titan to be within the same dimension in order for it to reawaken.
So unifying the realms physically would bring the Titan back if all it requires is for all of its parts to be in the same dimension. Belos wouldn't even have to bother looking for the missing part. All he'd have to do is bring the Titan to the human realm and it'd be able to rise again.
Loved this ep!!
Hmmm im curious about the whole "breaking wings" thingy
It could be about the clawthorns because they all have birds for palisman :)
it could also be about the cardinal
@@skyeshades6250 oh yeah definitely
Sure hope Hunter is not an obvious clone and that he is Belos true relative! I believe in the midseason finale we will get Camilla and what occured to warrant finding Luz!
I was thinking that these to are descendents of the human guy and hunter is belos nephew
I can’t wait to see where hunter and belos’s characters go !
Maybe it's not just a side effect of palisman 'juice' but that he's essentially grafted himself into a magical being
I think Belos is an extension of the titans magic bile sack and palisman wood combined to create a being to continue living even after the titan dies
Dang, this channel is so damn good! And all these theories are *so* awesome!!! That grimwalker possession/vessel theories one is so _good_
I forget but In one of the scenes you can see a book belos had and it was open and if had hunters nose shape and eye color meaning he was a creation of materials also when belos said that it’d be too much of a hassle to replace him he meant because if the hard to find materials to make hunter this also explains why he is powerless as he wouldn’t have that magic thingy attached to his heart
I think that Belos just wants to get out of the boiling Isles so then they don’t need to worry about the weather there and trying to bring the titan to keep the magic too
Remember how there's another Luz in the human realm?
Theory One, what if Phillip that went into the wizard world, Belos went into the human world & fell in love with it with our technology. After Phillip went back, Belos was sent back as well & he wants to return.
Theory 2, Belos was Phillip friend, & they worked together to improve magic with technology. After Belos went into the human world, Belos told Phillip his plan & Phillip decided to throw the portal away.
Everything Phillip is saying in the document, Belos is aware about it as well so they are connected in some way.
No longer dreams of having wings could be right. Birds and their ability to fly is often used to symbolize freedom. If belos IS Philip, his freedom would’ve been returning home, but he no longer wants that, so he no longer dream of returning home. Maybe he was corrupted by the titan blood while he was meddling with it? Maybe the titan is trying to get to the human world and forcing him to say.
Seething seas and puppet strings, he no longer dreams....
of the key-?
Ik it doesn't rhyme, but the show is all about the key, isn't it?
Well after what hunter said about not wanting to be replaced and all and Belos saying it’s a hassle to find a replacement, it’s possible hunter is a clone of Belos and maybe Belos is a clone of Philip. My theory is These clones are meant to take over when the previous ruler is unable to and hunter will rule once Belos is unable to or steps down. Furthermore if that’s the case it’s possible that Philip might have ruled originally but when he got to old he created Belos take over as ruler once he stepped down and possess his body.
Seething basically means anger and lots of people say I've reached my boiling point that can mean the boiling Isles puppet strings that's can refer to the Titan he no longer that can mean he's waking up
HOW DID I NOT KNOW ABOUT THE MYSTERY GLYPHS???
Although I like the thing of them being clones, I find more alluring that they are merely descendants. With Hunter having ancestors that were both born with and without 'natural' magic. The thought of Wittebane having started a family and friends in the new world is also pretty alluring for me, and actually can call for some pretty interesting prequels, who knows (wishful thinking ftw)
I'm still figuring out if pailsman blood is like unicorn blood
Most shows: slowly reveal plot points one season at a time
Owl House season two: 🎶 here a plot, there a plot, everywhere a plot point 🎶
New Theory: When Luz is texting Amity we see that Amitys icon is a cat just like her palisman. We see that Luz's icon is a bat, so does that mean that Luz's future palisman is going to be a bat?
It can be a snake cuz she doesn't scared of snake and she always talk about the snake in S1 and s2
@@1alabaaloisious753 But her phone case is also a bat too🤔😁
or maybe it was referencing the bat queen
@@lunarvixen7159 True, but isn't it a coincidence that Amity's icon is a cat like her Palisman. So with that in made try thinking the same with Luz.
@@rosequartz4708 You could be right about the bat, but I think it's going to be a snake. If you look at the shows logo, The O in owl is Owlbert and part of the H in House forms his staff. The L in Owl also looks like an upside down staff and right under it is an S that looks like a snake... Also, Luz has several connections to snakes throughout the show (she sets them loose in the school, snake arms, she hisses many times)
Maybe the secret code poem is taking about the titan awakening?
YES! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO!! WHAT A BLESS ED DAY
4:55 😳 *laughs nervously after watching Thanks to Them*
I have a different theory. The Grimmwalker material is neither of them, but a plan for Belos to cure his condition. He knows that like with Eda's elixirs his treatment is not going to last forever, so he plans to make a new stronger body free of his condition. Thoughts?
I must say, I proud and impressed, that Ida was recognized Hunters voice, when he's deskised. Another prove that series is about to be smart.
PS Maybe the next pare of word will be :"... No longer has _his_ears_" 😉
Seething seas and puppet strings, he no longer dreams of home? Maybe 🤔
I think the eye changing part is probably the most interesting aspect of this theory because it actually enables Belos to be Wittebane himself. A big problem that I had had with Belos being a clone himself was that he didn't have the Grimwalker eyes. And on the other hand since Belos had the witch-like ears it felt strange for him to be a Wittebane clone since shouldn't a clone of a human also have human ears?
But with eye-swapping being included in the body-swapping it all makes sense. Wittebane has swapped his blue eyes in place of the red eyes of the Grimwalker.
Also with the Grimwalker being more of a homunculus (a purely constructed body) instead of an one-to--one clone could explain how a clone of a human would have pointed ears. It could be possible that due to the construction materials being native to the demon realm the clone itself also takes a witch-like form a la pointed ears even if the Ortet/original is a human. It could even be that over multiple clonings the ears slowly developed into more and more witch-like form which would explain their smaller size and them being "half-witch" like.
Additional thoughts: Since palistrome wood is the keratin of the body it might explain why Belos needs palismen to sustain himself. It might be that the sap/magic of palismen is finite in the Grimwalker body and in order to keep it going it needs to feed more Palisman sap to sustain its form.
I feel the end of season 3 or 2 should end with Amity and Luz doing a similar dance like in grom it would be an amazing way to end on a grate note.
Great theory! I thought the same after seeing the book but you predicting it so early on is impressive
Nahh belos’s ears are too small they ain’t a witch’s ear so im guessing its a normal human ears that were cut to look like a witch’s ear
Abraham Robinson is going to be THE MOST important name going forward, mark my words
"Seething seas and puppet strings, he no longer dreams of...brings
Hmmm what if any human who goes to the demon realm leave a duplicate of themselves and will switch with each other when the human goes back would answer creepy luz
My personal take on Belos’s ear is that, if he is Philip, the ears are some form of genetic mutation from the drinking and or sniffing of palisman essence.
I don’t think there clones, Philip is just their ancestors. So they are half human and half witch. That s why most of their family members are magicless.
what if hunter isn't a clone of belos, but a clone of Eda or Lilith ,this could be another scrooge Mcduck and webby situation
I'm not so sure about the eye colour swapping bit because of a small detail in the body swap episode and this might just be an animator mistake but who knows
Ok, so the eye swapping thing with the body swapping may be wrong because in the body swap episode at the end where Eda swapping everyone around their eye colours are the same. Of course the guards and the old ladies all have blue eyes but Basha and her team have their respective eye colour, even tho they may not be obvious.
I forgot some of their names but green haired girl still has her olive green eyes and Skara has her grey eyes. I'm not sure about Basha's blue eyes but i can't tell with all the blue eyes. And the other dude, kinda forgot about him. And for Lilith, I think her eyes are the only teal coloured ones and they stayed the same but who knows if the dog has teal eyes.
This could possibly break the theory or be a slip but I hope the theory here in this video is right since it's very interesting to speculate but idk this is just food for thought while I'm writing this at 3am
Bellos being a palisman would be a wild twist...
i think its
''seething seas and
puppet strings,
he no longer dreams
of being free.''
OOR...... Creepy LUZ IS A GRIMWALKER!!!!
Belos scar could be a part of a curse like Eda and her feather. He could have a curse of octopus of some sort because the black spot are the little nod of tentacles.
Hunter also has a similar power color to what we see with the galder stone’s when they radiate orange.
Idk if anyone knows this but if we get the first letter from the episodes so far
*S*eparate tides
*E*scaping Expulsiom
*E*choes of the past
*K*eeping up a-fear-ances
*T*hrough the looking glass
*H*unting Palismen
*E*d'a Requiem
*K*nock Knock Knocking on hooty's door
*E*clipse Lake
*Y*esterday's lie
We get to the word "SEEKTHEKEY" like certain portal key certain character stoles perhaps?
What about part 3 to knocking on hootie's door
what if belos cut his ears to fit in. bc his ears seem to be smaller then other witches
So palistrumwood is keriten which is like the titans hair or nails
I never thought about the possible reason why Belos has the Silkidomus being killed is so that Hunter won't create a Grimwalker himself. It could be possible becuase he likely knows that Hunter would be mad about the body swap and if there was another possible way for him to survive then he could stop him
With regard to the mystery code, I see it as relating to the Titan itself. Maybe Bellos is planning to raise the Titan from the seas through something akin to necromancy and control it like a puppet, or maybe the Titan or Witabane is puppeting Bellos. I still think it's possible that Bellos is just an advanced abomination being controlled by an old and decrepit Witabane kept alive by magic in a wizard of Oz style man behind the curtain move.
Kikimora has something planned i believe
I hate that I was so so so convinced like Omgg I never thought of that!
HAS ANYONE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT HARPY LILITH BEING A THING
I know this might not be exactly cannon but you should do a theory video about why gliff magic works in the world of anphibia during the crossover
If the end of the poem is wings it could be a reference to a male character no longer feeling/wanting to be free
Everyone expected Belos to be Philip, which has lead to people considering it “too obvious” of a backstory for him and speculating that he is instead a descendant of Philip. Honestly, though, I prefer the theory that he is Philip himself and is either a possessed Grimwalker as you theorized, or just cut his ears to match the witches (notice we only ever saw his right ear), since it, however predictable, holds a lot more emotional and thematic weight. Philip would be a dark reflection of Luz, a human who stumbled into the Boiling Isles and “became a witch” despite possessing no natural magic, but somewhere he went wrong, overtook the Isles, and became…Emperor Belos. He’s been there because he’s from there, and I’m sure he misses it as much as Luz does, even if his intent isn’t just to return home. If he was just a descendant of Philip who heard stories of Earth from his ancestors, where would the thematic resonance be? That’s even more important than being surprising. But what do I know? Belos could be anyone!
I think your theory is spot-on but there’s still a piece to to puzzle I can’t figure out was is The Creepy Luz factor.
I wonder if there’s some time of time travel shenanigans afoot?
Maybe the code is about the titan who is dead/sleeping, and now he no longer "dreams" which could mean he's waking up soon
Bro when I saw the emperor's face I was like where's the real emperor. There's no way that this is what the emperor looks like. But I still do really like the design.