2020 GMC Denali HD towing a HUGE Fifth Wheel RV. See how it does!
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Really like you review of the 20 GMC. I can't afford a new truck but I've gotten some great information from both of you
They arent new trucks forever 👇
Ppl in Mexico/ India/ Japan/ Africa, watching this video as they put 10000lbs of cargo on their Toyota + pulling a trailer lol, i have never worried of weight. I’ve owned a 1 Ton 2008 Duramax, and now I own a 2020 3/4 Ton Duramax. And have exceeded the weight multiple times by a lot of thousand of lbs and have never felt unsafe or that i didnt have enough truck.
One cool thing, at least I think, is when you start off you hear hear sucking in the air big time... reminds me of the big military truck (loadstar 20t) that we had at the Team.
It has a 3.42 gear ratio because it has a 10 speed transmission.
Wow its beautiful out there!!
Great review and video of the 2020 GMC HD. Really enjoying the back and forth between you and Tim. Question about the bed on the truck your driving, is it a standard bed or long? Thanks for sharing JD you're a lucky guy to have be able to drive all of these trucks.
Great job ! would have liked to see more of the gauges while towing, other than that right on.
I saw a very similar test truck in the GM " camo" cover running through the salt river here in az. I talked to the guy at the next diesel station he wouldn't let me look inside but he seemed happy with the overall performance. Pretty nice looking truck. I think it would be a good idea to offer in 4.10s. For guys looking to upgrade tires and wheels it would definitely be a huge perk.
Thanks again JD as always we appreciate all you do
I bet you spotted the new generation interior. They couldn't come out with that fast enough
Lol weirdo
So just pulled my trailer 1500plus kms on a week long adventure. I figure leaving, trailer loaded was around 6000lbs conservatively. This with a 2017 Titan Half ton. (Yes below tow rating)On way home I may have had more weight due to full grey and 2/3 black. And equally full water tank. Many a time (driving back in dark) I had to double check to make sure trailer was still back there. I was impressed as it was a long haul. I averaged between 19 and 21 litres per 100k depending on terrain and elavation and hovered around 2000 2500rpm even on steep grades.
The new 2500/3500 gmc and chevys are awesome. 2020 refresh was needed.
Wow! She can tow!
nice rig
Damn I want one so dang bad.
Thanks for having me on! Great channel!!
I need to find you and subscribe
Hey....great videos. I enjoy them very much. I would love to see your opinion or video on the Ram 2500 with optional factory auto-level rear air ride suspension. I have the vehicle...pulls like a dream on the hitch but I have not ever pulled in the gooseneck/5th wheel position. Thanks for your very informative videos.
Trucker here....pulling and hauling heavy is of no concern to me.
If you flip through the info menu on the driver information center, you will find grade %. I have a 2020 Sierra and stumbled upon the grade % a couple months ago.
Good video showing the new GMC and a large 5th wheel. In my experience, the numbers on the stickers are a starting point. To get the actual numbers I would like to see the weights from a Cat scale. My Cedar Creek listed the pin weight as 1800 pounds in the specifications. Our actual pin weight when loaded for camping is 2680 pounds. So glad I purchased a 3500 SRW over a 2500. I do suspect a large portion of the increased pin weight is the Trail Air pin box. Since this is an optional item, it wouldn’t be included in the original specs.
Hey Mark which model Cedar Creek?, Thinking about the Champagne 38 el myself, we love the model but I'm thinking dually instead of SRW..
@@michaelcauseySA Hi Michael. We have an older model 34CKTS (2005). Got a good deal, in very good condition. Tows just fine with my RAM 3500 SRW. When I first purchased the trailer, I actually didn't have a truck. Had access to a Ford 350 Dually through my work -we brought the trailer home with that truck. So I have towed the same trailer with a dually and SRW. The dually definitely was more stable and I think would be a better choice if we were full-time. The SRW RAM still works very well. I don't feel un-safe by any means. Just don't want to use a dually as my daily driver the rest of the year.
Why did you grunt at the stop sign when you said “ here we go “?
Pretty quiet in the cab.
Curious what camera you used on the rear view to capture the trailer, then the view of the Fifth Wheel?
Were you in cruise control mode when coming down the 6-7% grade when the engine brake took over?
Just got me new 2022 2500 Denali hope I like it pick it up in 1 week traded my 2018 ram limit in on it ram guy hope I like the Denali
The videos are good but need more info on truck 2500 vs 3500 4x4 vs 2wd. Long wheel base standard bed? That info would answere alot of questions thanks
Very nice good to know
What’s going on with that diver side stabilizer on the rear. Seems it was hanging pretty low.
@big truck big rv. Is that a short box or long box. And what hitch are you using?
Are you not easily over on rear wheel capacity if you add any weight to the bed
South Dakota? Love the scenery.
Alpine WY
Being that you are coming from a dually tow vehicle. Did you yourself feel a difference towing that camper with a SRW axle? Thanx for sharing 👍
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@@williamwelty4095 ;
Exactly
I find it funny how everyone thinks their trucks can pull 30,000 plus pounds. But fail to realize that to get that max 5th wheel/gooseneck towing you need a 2WD single cab 8ft bed dually to do so.
No...to pull 35000 you need a 2wd
@@showcasecharlie11
Like James Calvert said only a regular 2WD cab diesel dually can tow the 35,500 lbs
@@anthonywebber2211 why are you repeating what we said? You feeling special today?..lol..dumbass
@@showcasecharlie11
no more special then you
@@showcasecharlie11 keyboard warrior, your part of what's wrong with America today!!!
I just bought a 2021 and can't wait to get the camper behind it. Great video!
I just bought a Denali HD Black Diamond edition a month ago and cant wait to get it with a load behind it. Love this truck, and so smooth compared to my old 2500.
Thanks much for the info!! I'm planning on retiring in a couple of years and planning on getting a GMC Sierra Denali. Getting a Riverstone 39RBFL which weighs 19,060 and 43ft long so thinking I should get a 3500 long box dually, that should do the job !
When pulling a 5th wheel, you don't need a long box if you use a sliding hitch.
@@davesellers613 you don’t even need a long box at all. Really your not gonna turn 90 degrees all the time
I’ve got a 42’ 5th wheel on my 15 Denali and have never needed the slider. I have it if I ever need it but I’ve been in it for 2 years and haven’t had to use it yet
Was that Alpine on a slider hitch?
It’s only fitting you test an Alpine trailer in Alpine Wyoming
Was this a short bed, 7’ , and if so did you have any problems with turning radius. Love your videos.
Great video, mind reviewing a GMC Savanah conversion explorer 2500 towing a camper?
I have a problem. I’m going to get a 40’-43’ toy hauler (used as a bunk... not toys) 15K lbs or more... nationwide travel. I don’t want a dually!!! But I feel like what I’m hearing you and others say that I should get the dually. Def getting 3500 but don’t want the dually. Recommendations??
It’s a 2500, the 3500 Saw payload is over 4K
What brand/model is that fifth wheel hitch? What’s your thoughts of the Anderson Ultimate fifth wheel hitch?
Nice review; would you do a review with a lance camper on it.
This is the video I was waiting for when I saw you were testing them. I've been considering a SRW 3500 to tow a 15-16k max 5th wheel. I'd like to avoid a dually if possible.
Evan Martin I tow a 14k Forrest River cardinal 5th wheel, with a 2018 Chevy 3500HD SRWD. Truck pulls the trailer with ease. The 5th wheel pay load weight is 2200lbs, way under my truck payload rating.
You have to go Ram 3500 Limited with 1,000lb ft. pounds of torque. Best money I ever spent, hands down. Makes the other trucks look like they came to a gun fight with a knife.
i would recommend you reconsider the dually... Much more stable, much less pucker factor when a crosswind hits; and you rarely have to worry about payload...
I have a Riverstone, 19K loaded, still dont what a dully as well.
@@devodar2579 😂😂😂
Love the channel, been very informative. Would you be able to look into the new ram 2500 with its coil spring rear suspension, especially when it comes to towing a 5th wheel or gooseneck.
Help? I’m needing a new truck... we were using a Toyota Tundra w a 10,500 tow capability to tow our 8,000 lb trailer. We got a light 5th wheel, and upgraded to a F250, but the maintenance and downtime worked our nerves, especially the going into limp mode a few times a year. Clearly Fords were not designed to tow 5th wheels. My friends love GMC’s, my brother swears by RAM’s. What is the best most reliable HD pickup truck for towing a fairly light 13,000 pound 5th wheel? The Toyota towed well, and had zero non-regular-maintenance issues, but the Ford makes me want to downsize and buy another Toyota. What do you think about GMC’s or RAM’s?
Need to get in some mountains on a hot day and then let me know
You obviously don't know where Jackson Hole Wyoming is. One part of the mountain going into Idaho is 11% grade
Is it 6'7" bed? If so how tight can you turn?
what state is that? beautiful scenery
Hello sir! Can you give me an idea where can i get a license plate for a pick up truck? I'm from kentucky. Tnx
did you use a sliding hitch?
What is your opinion price wise between getting a 2500 or 3500. If you go on the GMC web page the price is just about 5K price difference but you get more power out of it. Can you also talk about MPGS difference. What is your opinion on short box vs long box?
probably feels soft after using a dually :)
but would you swap your ford out for the truck in the 3500 format
No he would not unless it had a wide track front end (which is not currently offered).
Seth Herrera can’t beat the F450 steering abilities. Similar to the 550.
Charles Prince
What are the tow ratings of the 450 and 550?
Did you look at what the fuel economy was while towing that 5th wheel? We don't buy these for fuel economy, but it's always nice to know some approximate numbers.
I bet around 9mpg
Where were you towing this trailer at? Looks familiar!
👍👍👍👍👍
Did you keep the truck and trailer?
Is that a single wheel 3500? The most pin weight capacity I could find in a 2500 GMC or Chevy was about 2800 pounds. That was a stripped down 4x4 crew cab Duramax. The Dinali you were using must be eight 3500 to have a pin weight of over 3K.
How about a 34 ft travel trailer with a GVWR of 11,137 lbs and a Hitch weight of 977 lbs?
Where was this video made?
What state is this looks beautiful
Well Said! :-)) :-))
At 5:50 sec in a Cummins chuckles as it passes.
JD, just curious what fifth wheel hitches they are using. And it looks like the hitch is using the factory puck system. Is that correct? I’m just curious which hitch companies are already producing factory compatible hitches. Thanks!
Looked like a Curt hitch to me
B&W already has the slider and no slider Companion hitch ready to go for 2020 GMC
3,180lbs. max pin weight this trailer will be close to that loaded. And if loaded to the trailers max GVWR of 15,000lbs. it will be over that 3,180lbs
Yes, if JD was not at this event and was reviewing the trailer independently, I suspect he would have recommended towing it with a dually to have more margin on the weights.
Loved this video. It brought up a couple of questions in my mind. 1. You said the Denali was short bed? I was wondering if you could tow a fifth wheel with a 'short bed' (I know they vary some in length). If so... How can you calculate the length of bed needed for any given fifth wheel? Also do you have any experience with a sliding hitch or with the sidewinder hitch? Thanks in advance!
i just watched your rant video about short beds and you said it would be ok on a 6'4" bed so that is answered. I was thinking maybe that would interfere with turning radius but I guess not. Still interested on your thoughts on the necessity and functionality of siding hitches and sidewinder. Thanks!
I was not sure if the Denali was a 2500 or 3500. After reading some of the comments I’m figuring the Denali is a single rear wheel drive 3500.
Denali is a luxury trim that can be in 1500, 2500 and 3500
Anthony Webber Thank you.
My hope for GM is longevity. I drive a Tundra.
@@riduandunia6591
Longevity can be had from any manufacturer if properly maintained, I have a 2005 Chevrolet Colorado and since January 2018 I've only replaced a rear transmission seal, a U Joint and changed the oil about every 5-6000
Anthony Webber
I agree, do your preventative maintenance and things will last.
I have a 2007.5 HD 2500 Silverado Duramax 4x4 pulling a keystone cougar 32 ft. 178 K miles. No major problems but need to use synthetic oil and regular oil and filter changes. Change Allison trans spin off filter every other filter change. Use Lucas oil in fuel with occasional HOT SHOTS cleanse. Injector balance test almost new specs last air quality test Arizona. The water pumps go at about 90-100k. Next time I will use a performance water pump over stock. At the rate this truck is lasting I will expire before the truck. Also going to upgrade to a banks diff cover at next rear axle oil change. These trucks will last forever if you take care of them.
was this truck a 1 ton or a 3/4 ton? If it's a 3/4 ton it has a lot more payload than my F250.
It was a 1 ton according to video and one of his comments a couple threads above this one.
Jose Gutierrez
It was a one ton... the 3/4 is 18,5000
JD, Would you use this, even in a DRW version, over you 450? Why or why not?
I want a wide front axle
@@BigTruckBigRV I figured that would be your answer. Also why I am going F450 v Ram 3500 although I prefer the Cummins engine.
I'm considering moving into a 5th wheel full time and have been looking into a truck. What's the best truck to use full time?
I’ve got a 2015 srw gmc duramax Denali that tows my 42ft 15,000lb 5er like a champ. Truck sits level but I think the headlights point up and blind people driving by at night. I get brights flashed at me a lot. Never had a problem stopping or accelerating up or down hill.
Hey there,
My wife and I are looking at getting a 2500 High country on Monday. The numbers on that are a little bit lower. This leaves me to question if the truck you are in is a 1 ton single axle? 🤔
Just got the answer 😆 .
We're still gonna go for the high country. We're looking at getting a mid profile 5th wheel but, that's a story for another time
Lazy get a 3500
The more high tech equipment the more issues with sensors
Is this truck a 2500 or a 3500?
That’s in no way huge I tow a larger 42 raptor with my 2500 19 k loaded with air bags and custom tuning tows great 👍
Nice! Where did you get your tune done? I have a 2500 hundred as well and looking at used 20k loaded down
Excuse me always get the max towing option 🤑
That truck may be overloaded after trailer is loaded and has 5 passengers and gear in the truck. Don’t you think that trailer is too big for a SRW?
Yep, the fifth wheels were dry
Yes it is. You are correct
No..this is a one ton truck. Can tow 20k lbs easy. Hitch weight over 3k lbs....if this were a 3/4 ton truck then yea it would be overweight...
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man i simply can't decide between a 2020 Gas Sierra HD or 2020 Gas Super Duty
Depends how long you’re gonna use it and how you drive.
What is the best time to buy this GMC Denali truck ?
I'd say used in a few years
Is that Tim?
my complaint is that you are spouting off about an "HD" truck, but no mention of this being a 1 ton truck... single rear wheel, sure.. that's visually obvious... but chevy also puts "HD" badges on its 3/4 ton's too...
You were in Alpine in this video??? Welcome to Star Valley!
Sure was. Beautiful
Does GM know this is your wheelhouse?
No mention of transmission temp
So i you have a 5th wheel toy camper with a 500LB golf cart in the back of the camper, your doing good by transferring hitch weight away from the bed of the truck….
I wonder what type of hitch they are using?
Curt puck
I was wondering the same thing. Seriously considering one of these trucks. Is this hitch an auto slide? I’m curious if it’ll be necessary with the centerline being behind the rear axel.
Any information how the 2020's are holding up real world? I know their new but there's always someone out there who'll run em hard quick.
It's a new model so the rule of thumb is wait a couple years for the manufacturer to iron out the problems. To be fair modern car manufacturing is way better then it was even 10 years ago but I would suggest getting an extended warranty either through the manufacturer or from a third party. But to be fair if you're in a position to spend 50 to 70k on a truck and 80k on a fifth wheel I'm assuming you can afford repairs without breaking the bank.
Gee I wonder why they aren't showing ANY with the new gas engine. It must really suck if they won't show it to the press at all. I figured they would take pride in their new engine purpose built for this all new platform.
Honestly, they didn't have any gas trucks there
@@BigTruckBigRV oh im not saying "oh youre a terrible person for not checking out a gas truck" im saying its wierd gm is hiding them when the engine is brand new, maybe fords 7.3 tied to the 10 speed is scaring them a bit too much
MPG?
? You could have 15,000 tun trailer back there I don’t think so.
You could replace the truck and not change the video. Didn’t hear anything that sets this truck apart
I was interested until I seen the Daramax I hate those after one broke down twice in one day on me.
You answer lots of my own questions, I have one not related to the truck. What part of Idaho specifically is this area, it is just pure heaven, WOW..! Upps! OH forgot one😕 what is this GMC 3500 single wheel ?
Jackson WY and Alpine. This was a 3500
@@BigTruckBigRV thanks JD. 👍😊
They sold me a GMC sierra 2500 Denali hd duramax 2020 the pay load is only 1582 lbs my fifthwheel have 2200lbs pin weight soo i can’t pull my fifthWheel. 😡
I chose a 2017 Ram Drw 4:10 HO Cummins due to your recommendation for my 10K TT. It rocks and is very enjoyable towing! Thanks! Plus it has an 8ft bed so my quad fits in the bed.
That's awesome! Feels confident towing huh?
Tow rating for a 2500 is 18,500 so it’s a 3500
The trailer was 15k plus the fifth wheel hitch 2k payload
Any trailer similar to this or larger, use a daully. Much safer.
Can probably tow that 5th wheel with a v6 tbh
Ps dont spend 1 single minute memorizing these numbers, itll never help you be successful. The soldier here help each other do impossible things. Right!.😅
I didn’t hear in the video if this was a 2500 or a 3500
The other guy mentions it is a 1 ton. However, I agree, the Denali HD come in 2500 and 3500 and he should include that in the video title, and start of the video.
John Beck would a 3/4 ton pull this ?
3500 based on the towing capacity sticker he mentioned in the beginning of the video
That's not a huge 5th wheel
Sorry, but that's not a huge 5th wheel... if anything, that's about average. A triple axle toy hauler over 40ft with a rzr or jeep inside... that'd be a "huge" fifth wheel...
dre04mach; and your point is....what??
Yeah, and it would definitely be over it's capacity at that point.
@@outbacker292 My point was that it's towing an average sized 5th wheel not a huge one.
What are your thoughts on the lawsuit against GM for the alleged defective Bosch fuel pumps?
One main difference between the GM Heavy duty trucks vs the competitors is the independent front suspension. When unloaded it will have much nicer driving characteristics but if you have any kind of significant load it may not feel as solid or controlled as a live axle. Feels like there is alot more wiggle and movement with the ifs. Definitely not ideal for towing large trailers on a regular basis.
I’m concerned that trailers this sized towed by a pickup, driven by someone that has little to no training on anything that size. These things are the size of semi trucks now . At least trucks drivers have training and a license to drive something that big. I cringe every time I get past by one of these and those giant toy haulers.