Your GUIDE to FAST & EFFICIENT Turnarounds | Real 737 Pilot
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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Tools and addons used in this video:
Streamlabs Studio
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My system specs:
Intel i9-9900k@5,2GHz
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Windows 10 Pro
My hardware:
Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke
Honeycomb Bravo Throttle
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Thrustmaster Pendular Pedals
Guten morgen sir. One interesting thing about your videos is that you do delve far more deeply into real world procedures than a lot of other channels of the same type. It makes for very varied and interesting content. Keep it up 👍
Thank you so much Michael! That's exactly my aim with this channel.
You are a content machine! Always enjoy seeing your uploads. Thanks again.
Glad you like them!
One thing that has been a challenge in sim is using tools like pacx or gsx and calculating takeoff Time because we don't necessarily know how long it takes to load a given number of passengers
That's much more of a problem using flight sim addons then it is in real life. In real life you have a set amount of time and within that time all passengers must be on board. Ground and Cabin Crew will usually facilitate that.
Thank you for your Videos, they teached me a lot and especially your awnsers to the comments were very helpful :)
Thank you so much HaDeS_Monsta, I'm glad you like the video!
Ramp agent here
25 minute turn around is insane especially if there’s over 100 bags to off load and load on top of that cleaning the aircraft.
It's what we do every day. Cleaning is done by the cabin crew, saves time.
Loading and unloading of bags takes a good part of the turnaround but is manageable.
@@A330Driverah true
My company we have to both
Wanted to watch this as I have been flying more in A Pilots Life V2, and wanted to be more efficient on turn arounds
Hope you liked it!
Watching for the second time. Just accepted a position on Pilots Life 2 with Southwest Airlines, so obviously Im in the 737 now. Typically fly the a320, but the position with a 4 star company was beneficial in the career mode. Looking to get with Delta ultimately
Hallo, thank you very much for your tutorials, I've learned so much from your videos :)
A little hint for the virtual porformance tool, which I also use. Under the WGT & balance tab, where 738W-real is shown, you can select there the 738W-PMDG plane. This will set the weights and the balance to all values the pmdg is programmed at, which are higher than on the 738W-real Profile. Than you won't have the problem of being too heavy for deoarture or landing :)
I wanted to briefly mention something that might be important for PMDG or the MSFS. I don't know if many have this problem: Well I have the X52 HOTAS from Logitech which I am very satisfied with and has always worked. The one with the trim button (the problem I had maybe you remember last comment of last Video) suddenly disappeared after your help I think.
But somehow I have a strange problem since the latest PMDG update 3.0.62 my joystick i.e. the Y axis doesn't always react, sometimes it sometimes doesn't work at all. I really only have that with the 737-700 at the PMDG with no other aircraft. I know the simulator is very complex and sometimes difficult to understand why and where the problems are.
Maybe more people will come up with this problem in the future or not who knows. I wanted to mention it for PMDG.
The weird thing is, after I went into the menu, it still hangs on other planes too, until I unplug the usb and plug it back in, then it works again. But always only when I fly the pmdg! Without pmdg I have no problem.
It might a problem of the new (working title update last weeks or maybe the last PMDG update) I dont know.
I will continue to investigate the problem.
Also wanted to mention that your videos are very good keep it up! 😄
PS: I found in steam community something about (in German) its from 7 January before the updates, maybe its a problem of MSFS/Asobo long time ago. Here is the Link: steamcommunity.com/app/1250410/discussions/12/3764479392873754800/
Excellent video! Unique that Ryanair leaves all the pumps on during a turn!
One thing that I've noticed about this airline is just how long their checklists are, and the funniest thing is the fact that "Passengers - Seated" is in the Before Start Checklist. Do you have an idea of why the checklists are so long with many items that seem unnecessary, but might be necessary?
Excellent! This filled a void in my knowledge between arrival and departure procedures. Very good level of detail. Thanks
Needed this. Thanks!!
Any time!
Thanks a lot for the video ! Have a nice weekend
Thank you too
Great video! There are things we can learn in the sim but for the details of real world operations we need videos like this one.
Thanks for your video
How do I stop getting a engine start valve open which doesn’t let me start the engines again after shutting them down?
Probably a corrupted panelstate, try to delete it and create new ones.
Excellent video. Is it standard procedure to start the APU after landing if you know you are going to connect to ground power anyway? Or would you just have the ground power connected after the chocks are in and then stop the engines after that?
Depends a lot on the place where you're flying. In Spain for example they won't connect the GPU until your beacon is off. Which requires the engines to be shut down first.
In the UK they're very good at connecting the GPU quickly and thus you typically wouldn't start the APU. But of course it's airport dependant once again. London is very good, Manchester.... well, I'm happy if I have ground crew at all in Manchester.
when should i turn off the packs and turn on the apu bleed
Great info, thank you!
My pleasure!
Any reason why PMDG values are higher than the real one in VPT? Is the data between the 2 companies vary that widely
Because "real" in VPT is an example for ONE airline configuration. PMDGs is an example of another.
Great, thanks a lot for you effort!
You are welcome!
Great video
Do you do the preflight checklist again?
In my company we have a before start checklist and no preflight checklist and of course we do that again.
Looking at the standard Boeing preflight checklist I'd definitely recommend to do that again as well.
Thank you Sir for a detailed, informative and interesting video. I am not sure if I missed it but at what point does non-flying pilot carry out the walkaround during the turnaround? As the whole process relies not only on the aircraft pilots and crew members but also the ground handling staff, how is this process managed to achieve a quick and efficient turnaround? Thank you!
Pretty much once you arrived on stand, are done with the paperwork of the previous flight and have decided on the fuel quantity.
Another great video. Any insight into the design decision on why the 737-700 only supports the loading of the rear cargo bay when the fuel truck is present? The ramp crew work both bays with fuel going on the 4 different carriers I've been a passenger on recently without any issues.
sim limitations due to the space available. The 600's got the same issue. In the 800/900 there's more space, thus it could be done.
How much pressure does the company put on the pilots to make the desired turnaround time? Do pilots feel the pressure of committing to land vs going around?
In my airline there is zero pressure NOT to go around. There's even a memo of the board of directors outlining a clear no blame policy for go arounds.
The turnaround process starts when the plane is on block and the engines shut down. That's where the timer starts, anything prior to that will simply be noted down as delaycode 93 - late inbound.
Wow, great topic and briliantly exaplained in the video! I always thought that low-cost airlines use outside stands because it is cheaper for the airline than booking a terminal and airbridge? Also, I have a IRL question to help me better with fuel planning on short distance Turnarounds. For example Easyjet have several flights a day between Nice Cote d'Azur and Geneve, same plane goes back and fourth. Will they fill up the tanks for the whole day(meaning that they would have to land pretty heavy at first), or refuel with the needed QTY for each flight and keep the plane lightweight, but bother refueling each time at one of the two airports? How does real life airlines do this?
At many airports pricing doens't event vary between terminal and outside positions. At others, while you might save the money for the jetways you'll pay for busses. And for the terminal you pay anyway, regardless how passengers are brought there.
I would expect Easyjet to refuel between the flights, the turnaround is long enough and otherwise you'd just waste money by carrying excess weight.
Tankering fuel is usually done when fuel prices at one place are particularly expensive or if there's just no fuel available at a place at all which happens surprisingly often.
@@A330Driver thanks!
4:50 KLM Cityhopper als wants to turnaround quickly. 90% of the times at EHAM they also use an outside gate. I had no idea that this sped up the proces. Nice detail in your video! I like to keep the MSFS logbook accurate. However, if you shut down with the PMDG or Fenix A320, the logbook will not be filled. EG if you fly Dusseldorf - Alicante Alicante - Dusseldorf it states Dusseldorf - Dusseldorf. Is there a work arround, so MSFS notes both legs seperate?
I'm not aware of any such workaround, but I'd recommend to use an external program like the freeware SimToolKitPro for flight logging anyways. Works a lot better!
@@A330Driver Thank you so much. I will look into that. About 10 years ago I used an actual Jeppesen Pilot Logbook. Noting it on paper had it's charms. I like to do it digital now, so I will look into that. Have a nice weekend!
@@PatrickBijvoet Another very nice program for that is Volanta. Comes with a map to track all of your flights.
@@someairplanenerd2417 Thank you!
What is that black window/tool from which you read the documentation?
Hi Daniel, it's SimToolKitPro
@@A330Driver Thank you
Hi, thanks for another informative video. I noticed you never connected ground air conditioning and turned the APU off - while not as important in the sim, was that just something you forgot, assuming that ground personnel would've hooked it up? Should the plane always be connected to a source of air conditioning whether through a ground source or the APU, or is there any length of time on the ground where not having air conditioning is OK?
I mention it towards the end of the video, please refer there for a full explanation.
23:45 sounds like ryanair. Why not to trust the man that will also show you that gpu is connected? Strange SOP from TRC perspective ;)
Because some chaps in the past miscommunicated and an airplane ended up in a hangar for a long time afterwards. Trust is not something that belongs into the world of aviation.
"trust". But i get your point.
does PMDG simulate brake cool down ?
btw can't wait to try the turnaround as in the guide. cheers
Hi William, yes they do.
Guide me
Hopeless case ;-)
My airline has standard 35 minute turnaround but we’re also following the unloading of the rear first and loading of the front first due to teetering risks should we be restricted to front only offloading of pax.
Interesting thinking about the offloading of pax here. We just make sure there's people distributing around the cabin equally when boarding with a jetway and make sure some people wait at the front of the cabin during disembarking to keep the weight even.
I don't really understand the beginning, why don't use auto break 2 and have no cooling time?
The runway length of 03L at Gran Canaria is about 3100 metres, so if he would have used auto brakes 2, the aircraft would come to a stop with less than 400 metres remaining which is very risky (because of the high landing weight, the aircraft has more momentum). You can see in the takeoff calculator in the video as well, the aircraft will take more than 2700 metres to stop. By using auto brakes 3, the aircraft has a better stopping distance.
@@the-aviator Ah yes I see, I thought auto break 2 and manual break after slowing down would be more efficient, I'm glad I can learn new things about the aircraft every day
Because brake cooling isn't your only concern landing a plane.
First of all there's safety, but then there's efficiency coming second. Minimum Runway Occupancy Time is very important on most european airports.
Where can I find a checklist like the one you used at the beginning of the turn around?
I don't think it's publically available anywhere.
How do you get the movable windshield sun visor? I know how to get them from the FMS.
The movable one is not an option but always there (same in the real plane). It's in the pocket aft and to the sides of the pilots seats. One on each side.
@@A330Driver Thanks
who knew flight simulator could also simulate stress
LOL, there is NO stress unless you're in PMI in mid summer and have a tight slot to catch while French ATC is on strike again ;-)
14:30 why do you remove the planned fuel again?
Air Canada 143 is a perfect demonstration of what could happen with a manually set fuel quantity in the FMS. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
For the FMS to use the fuel quantity from the FQIS you must remove any manually entered value.
@@A330Driver That is very good to know thank you, I always entered the fuel manually because I thought this was just a way to check the requested fuel vs the actual fuel
What tool were you using for performance calculations
virtualperformancetool.com
@737ngdriver: Really nice video as always :-) The transit procedures and checklists are not in the FCOM or QRH. Is that right?
In my airline we have them all in there.
@@A330Driver Thank you very much for your answer. Thanks to your video, I can write those transit procedures and checklists 😀😀