A good friend recently bought a Guerrilla and he let me have a go. Loved it. Goes really well, super comfortable, I don’t get the vibes thing mentioned here? Maybe on a motorway or whatever but upto about 60mph when I rode it it was remarkably smooth, IMHO anyway. Can see exactly why they sell so well and the build quality looked terrific.
A lot of youtubers will talk about vibes, Like most of us have never ridden a shakey cheap, 125cc that rattled our teeth out 🤣 What they all mean when they mention it is "its not as smooth as a 4 cylinder motor". It seems to be the thing they all mention since manufacturers moved to big singles and parallel twins.
You mentioned the vibes I’ve noticed when I took out the Himalayan 450 how the engine was smoother the second time I rode it with over 1,500 miles on it was smoother
To me it felt very smooth from the start. It has some 500 km on the dash that time. Overall not a really vibey engine, at least to me. Can check my content when you can. Cheers.
Had one of these for the day while my Interceptor was being serviced and absolutely loved it. Nice, punchy engine and fun handling. Ergonomics were great too.
@@jazzysaravana I'm only 5'6" so for me it was perfect. It's a really good bike for smaller riders but perhaps not ideal if you're taller than average.
I completely believe you. Have to try it. After the Himi 450 this one should be more planted and a complete road bike. By the way can check my content when you can. Cheers. :)
Nice to see RE have decided to produce a bike other than the Himalayan that isn’t considered a retro. The retro theme has run its course now is the time for some original styling. Nice looking bike, if it were a twin I would be proud to own it.
Had mine a week and love it! Puts a smile on my dial every time! Even more fun than my Hyabusa! More fun riding a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow…😊
Nice vid. Seems like a decent little machine & nice colour scheme too. I'm really liking the increased effort manufacturers seem to be putting in to smaller bikes more recently. Although, as a general point, I'd still like better quality adjustable suspension & higher spec brakes, but I appreciate it's a balancing act with price. Nonetheless, t's not all about power. I've had several 150bhp bikes & imo 40+bhp is ample if its in a light bike with a decent chassis, suspension & brakes. I think there's also a relatively untapped market for A2 power level bikes (
Strange really as I don’t find my Guerrilla 450 vibey, whereas on my test ride on the Triumph 400X I felt the vibes up the rev range weren’t nice at all and the gearbox felt vague during downshifts. Triumph is a gorgeous looking bike though.
I've had mine (in Playa Black) for just over 2 months and have done just over 2000 miles. Personally, I think it's great in all respects and one of the better handling bikes I've owned. I wanted a naked single that was engaging to ride on twistie A and B roads and has a slight old skool look, and this ticks all the boxes for me ....... I love that sloping cylinder and even though it's a water cooled lump, it still has echoes of a sixties British bike (Panther, Tiger Cub etc) which is what I cut my teeth on. Regarding vibes, they are almost non-existent on my bike and no issue at all but you still feel like you're riding a biggish single which is exactly what I wanted 👍 A lot of, so say, bikers seem to want a bike that's as comfortable and smooth as a car ....... my advice would be, get a car or a Goldwing! 😊Good review, Mr Bob, I ride quite a few of the roads that you ride, Mendips etc, interesting roads. Cheers, Phil
Hi there MB, just watched this vid and really liked it and the Guerilla. Not too keen on the blue version , the black/yellow/purple one would my choice.
May just come down to availability. I live in a large city in TX and you can get RE from at least 3 dealers where we only have one option for Triumph, and as someone who got a 400x from them... it's not the greatest. Other than that, maybe accessories. The 400s dont have a ton of options, though slowly growing, but I imagine these will have more options available.
I feel like I need a 400 in my garage and am heading towards the Guerrilla. Triumph is prettier, Svartpilen/390 duke feels quicker and a little more modern but the Royal Enfield hits the sweet spot for me. Small point is the servicing costs seem much more reasonable at a Royal Enfield dealer as opposed to Triumph/Ktm but that might just be my local dealers
Colours not one id jump at but not going to complain, nice to see some colour for once! Makes a change from the monotonous blacks, greys, whites and reds you see everywhere
Nice set up matey. I like the the silver with silver being my favourite colour, think the looks better then the triumph 400 although not as refined. I think with the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 twisty roads motorcycles are in their element and best riding. 😅
I have the Himalayan 450 and yes when the engine is new it is very vibby but get some miles on it and the engine becomes smoother and the vibes soon disappear .
I bought a 350 Meteor a few years back and it has been great, I did a mountain tour in Thailand 2 up when it was new and that was the one weakness. My next run is southern Thailand without the mountains so it should be good. I have been contemplating a 40 bhp bike for a while now, as is my friend who has that barge called a Honda Forza, a bloody awful bike. Next year we may both have either a Triumph Speed or one of these.
I haven’t ridden one of these or a Himalayan and I currently ride a Honda CB500F. What I like about this bike over the Honda, is the reduced weight ,extra agility around town . Also being a single cylinder 450 the cheaper servicing costs. I don’t like the too small fuel tank,which is a styling overkill in my opinion. I wonder if you could fit a Himalayan tank? I’d try. I’d try to fit the aftermarket bikini fairing I have on the Honda and the Givi topbox or failing that the Enfield one. I’m getting to the stage where I just do urban commuting with a bit of motorway riding.
Well in my opinion the speed 400 looks better…. funny thing is that a lot of people have been complaining about the Triumph and the BSA having a radiator…. now the 450’s RE have a radiator too …. but not one complaining about the looks of it…. but in my opinion it’s a hideous design… just saying…. 🤣
Maybe people aren't complaining about these bikes is cps they're not trying to be retro. Guerilla and Himi aren't trying to look retro like the interceptor or Something.
Funny how each reviewer see bikes differently. This reviewer thought this bike was more vibrating than the Triumph 400. Another UA-cam reviewer ‘Nothing to Prove’ rode a Triumph 400 on a freeway and had to get off it early because the vibration from the bike became too much numbing parts of his body.
I bought a Speed in April and its a very good small capacity bike i commute on it when the weathers decent to keep miles off the car and enjoy the back roads. I think this answers some of the weaknesses of the Triumph that being a centre stand theres not even bobbin mounts on the Speed, the front mudguard is much more functional the rad on my speed gets quite dirty. The instrument TFT screen on the top versions is a big plus. RE missed a trick with the tank capacity though and the radiator looks stuck on as an afterthought not integrated in. I like the chain being on the opposite side to the exhaust of the RE thsts got to ma ke maintenance easier though the Speed has the edge on service intervals though not too many folk will do 10k pa i feel . I have a Triumph dealership in my city there is an RE one 8 miles away better than Honda and modt other marques 30plus miles away. The Speed is a bit low geared for my taste and the small screen accessory is not much use plus all accessories have taken far too long to get to customers. Theres a couple of niggles with the control electronics too immobilser light on currently and the kill switch has operated with no input from myself tho am sure RE will have teething issues. Speed us better looking but will need some colour varity soon i really like the RE playa black.
An honest, affordable, modern, road biased motorcycle.👌😎👍 EDIT: The looks its an acquired taste. I guess you either love it or hate it. I'm ok with it.
I'm not sure about the styling, the tank doesn't look quite right probably due to the tall engine. I would have to say the the Triumph looks nicer. Also the road tax is half the price on the Triumph so possibly cheaper running costs? I'm glad RE have made it, but in many ways I think they should of developed their air cooled engines to give around 30bhp which probably would be enough to give them the occasional highway speed capability. I guess they feel they have done that with the classic 650 twin but a 30bhp single would still be nice, especially at a competitive price. I suppose you could buy a Honda 350 now they have released them on the European market as at least it has a bit more top speed than the RE350's with the same classic looks.
The Scram 440 will launch in January. Its about 25 bhp. Simple air/oil cool unit, lower spec'd , easier to maintain, with some ability to go"soft roading"
you say suspension is firm - but is it really firm or too soft with so much sag that its operating in the hardest part of its crappy progressive suspension? (as it was the case with so many other bikes before)
RE: the boots. I notice Rebelhorn have only one dealership in the UK, which is in Bristol (I'm in London). Are their boots true to size? I tried on some boots in my local J&S a few weeks ago and they very much weren't. I'm normally a size 10 (men's) and I tried on the only boots they had that I could afford, and couldn't even get my feet in,.
Took one for a short test ride the other week. Didn’t expect much of it, my last two bikes were MT-09’s, hooligan machines so was expecting this to be quite sedate… it’s anything but and I loved it, walking back into the dealer with a massive grin… so I have one on order 😂
As long as you need the smartphone ON and ON THE APP everytime you're taking advantage of the gmaps on the tft it is absolutely useless. That's the most urgent and needed update to the system they need to do.
I'm wondering if that will be next for this platform, a proper scrambler styled version to sit between the Himalayan and this which they describe as a roadster.
A Scrambler has already been unveiled. Its the Himalayan Scram 440 which will go into production in January. It's not the same 450 mill though, rather the older 411 long stroker with increased an bore taking it to 440 CC. Price wise I think it will sit lower than the Guerilla since it has a simpler mill with basic componentry.
Its an amazing bike but all the insurance companies are confused by it and either say they can't do it or will ask for the value of the bike. Its too new. I can get insured on any other bike for a fraction of that. Just a normal quote for the insurance on a 900 sports bike but not on this 😂
I can attest to this. I own an Interceptor and my brother owns the Triumph Scram 400X. My Interceptor has the usual niggles like the infamous battery drain issue and the wobbling front wheel but apart from that its holding up well since 1.5 years. The bolts have not rusted, nothing has come loose either. The Triumph on the other hand has issues with the immobilizer, the speedo became non functional within a year, bolts have started to rust, paint chipping on the handle bar ends, chain picks up rust in a few miles even after lubing, unexpected engine stalls even after firmware updates, etc. Also both me and my brother have similar riding styles and maintain the bikes pretty similarly too so there's that.
Love the stuff that Royal Enfield has been doing of late. As a style exercise and total package, I think I like the Guerrilla 450 and Bear 650 bikes the best. I'd probably prefer the twin cylinder the most, for smoothness, sound, and grunt.
Good review! I just want to give my opinions. I've own more than 26 motorcycles, did test-rides 100'ths of motorcycle. From motorscooter to hypersport. Also the Duke 390, the vitpilen 401, meteor 350 and tested alnlot of bikes. Last week I've tested the guerrilla 450 and a nice bike but I don't want to have it. A couple points why not. - the first gear is pinched. If you open the throttle it hold back. Seems to be by mapping for beginners that you can't have the full power immediately. - the throttle is too sensitive. For my opinion a lot on/off. So when you ride it with a passenger the helmets will collide now and then. When you riding alone the same. It drives more easy than a Duke 390 for sure. But it remains a single cilinder. I've test ridden a CB500Hornet and CL500 afterwards and I love the engine character more. More smooth to ride. - and you can not discuss colors and tastes but what have they done with the colors. 😮 There is a monotone color coming up (purple brown with with royal Enfield written on it. Much better). Royal Enfield did a good job to jump on the water-cooled engines but as well with the Himalayan they have some homework to do. It was the same with the Duke 390. I've bought the first coming out version and drove the same bike years later and it was better in the mapping. So Royal Enfield, I love it but the new engines need some more attention to be better build. - and I would change the tires. Especially when you'll ride just and alone on concrete roads. Again, just my thoughts and opinion. 🙂
The rear brakes are squeezing down and stopping the wheel from freely spinning, worsening the mileage. Please check the quality of brakes and turn the rear wheel to check the play. Very thirsty bike, cant travel long distance, need a gas tank to take with you always
On this bike, 5 things are deal breaker for me:- 1) 11-litre tank. 2) the TFT screen 3) no usd forks 4) is the inclusion of centre stand 5) no traction control
1.) It does get like 3.5L/100km though 2.) Too modern I guess? 3.) USD or not doesn't matter too mich as long as they are adjustable 4.) That could legit be annoying, but therr are probably aftermarlet options or RE even offfer one as extra option 5.) At 40ish hp, TC is a bit overkilll IMO. Maybe good to have to pouring rain or almost freezing temps I would suggest riding it some time. Lots of these hurdles can become invisible after time
@someguy9520 @someguy9520 1) 11-litre tank is less compared to its rivals as 11-litre is like using a 500ml water bottle that you have to fill thrice on your way to your destination or for touring. Which kinda limits your long distance touring. 2) it's not about modern. The thing is you have keep your phones' display on if you are connecting to that TFT screen. Cause if it gets screen locked, it gets disconnected. Like for example, cars have android auto or Apple car play. You connect it via Bluetooth and can operate it while your phone's screen is locked. That's not the case for RE's TFT screen as you have to keep the phone's screen on which results in severe battery drain. 3) To me, going from RSUs to USDs is called an upgrade and going from USDs to RSUs is a downgrade. Sure, USDs are expensive compared to RSUs but some rivals do offer USDs as an advantage. 4) If it were an adv or had tube tires, then mainstand would make sense. Adding mainstand just makes it more heavier. Why have it on a roadster? 5) Traction control is a must have cause the tires are least gripy. In dry, alright but in wet, you'll be skidding alot. Lastly Please note, I've taken the test drive and I'm sharing my opinion with what I felt about the bike. And I'm not spreading any hate towards the bike.
A good friend recently bought a Guerrilla and he let me have a go. Loved it. Goes really well, super comfortable, I don’t get the vibes thing mentioned here? Maybe on a motorway or whatever but upto about 60mph when I rode it it was remarkably smooth, IMHO anyway. Can see exactly why they sell so well and the build quality looked terrific.
A lot of youtubers will talk about vibes, Like most of us have never ridden a shakey cheap, 125cc that rattled our teeth out 🤣 What they all mean when they mention it is "its not as smooth as a 4 cylinder motor". It seems to be the thing they all mention since manufacturers moved to big singles and parallel twins.
Go and take a ride of it@@4RMS7TRONG
You mentioned the vibes I’ve noticed when I took out the Himalayan 450 how the engine was smoother the second time I rode it with over 1,500 miles on it was smoother
To me it felt very smooth from the start. It has some 500 km on the dash that time. Overall not a really vibey engine, at least to me. Can check my content when you can. Cheers.
Had one of these for the day while my Interceptor was being serviced and absolutely loved it. Nice, punchy engine and fun handling. Ergonomics were great too.
Would you replace your int with it?
I found the Guerrilla 450 had less room than my Interceptor for my height 6'1". The Himalayan 450 and Scrambler 400x were very roomy though.
@1bhitte I'm seriously considering it. They've got similar performance but feel very different.
@@jazzysaravana I'm only 5'6" so for me it was perfect. It's a really good bike for smaller riders but perhaps not ideal if you're taller than average.
I completely believe you. Have to try it. After the Himi 450 this one should be more planted and a complete road bike. By the way can check my content when you can. Cheers. :)
Oh yeah, I have this Color and love it! Reminds me of my 1982 RD250, only with more power 😉
I have RD350 F2 and she is drunk, noisy, polluting and without torque. Guerrilla is funy and prety bike
Nice 450 machine from *RE* - wish it had a bigger fuel tank like the 350 Meteor.
Nice to see RE have decided to produce a bike other than the Himalayan that isn’t considered a retro. The retro theme has run its course now is the time for some original styling. Nice looking bike, if it were a twin I would be proud to own it.
Had mine a week and love it! Puts a smile on my dial every time! Even more fun than my Hyabusa! More fun riding a slow bike fast, than a fast bike slow…😊
Wow how great does this look in this colour,reminds me of a RD350,which is no bad thing, great video.
That’s what I thought when I saw it at the NEC bike show.
Would seriously consider one - after a test ride of course!
Nice vid. Seems like a decent little machine & nice colour scheme too. I'm really liking the increased effort manufacturers seem to be putting in to smaller bikes more recently. Although, as a general point, I'd still like better quality adjustable suspension & higher spec brakes, but I appreciate it's a balancing act with price. Nonetheless, t's not all about power. I've had several 150bhp bikes & imo 40+bhp is ample if its in a light bike with a decent chassis, suspension & brakes. I think there's also a relatively untapped market for A2 power level bikes (
I preferred riding this and the character and design over the triumph 400.
Ok
Same. Rides better than triumph
Makes me wonder if Kawasaki will give us an RS version of the Z500.
Definitely a big step for Royal Enfield but for me it doesn't come close to the looks of Triumph Speed 400 for looks.
@@simonbowen6653 disagree
Great video! I feel like it's been awhile since I've seen you do a ride review!
Strange really as I don’t find my Guerrilla 450 vibey, whereas on my test ride on the Triumph 400X I felt the vibes up the rev range weren’t nice at all and the gearbox felt vague during downshifts. Triumph is a gorgeous looking bike though.
I've had mine (in Playa Black) for just over 2 months and have done just over 2000 miles. Personally, I think it's great in all respects and one of the better handling bikes I've owned. I wanted a naked single that was engaging to ride on twistie A and B roads and has a slight old skool look, and this ticks all the boxes for me ....... I love that sloping cylinder and even though it's a water cooled lump, it still has echoes of a sixties British bike (Panther, Tiger Cub etc) which is what I cut my teeth on. Regarding vibes, they are almost non-existent on my bike and no issue at all but you still feel like you're riding a biggish single which is exactly what I wanted 👍 A lot of, so say, bikers seem to want a bike that's as comfortable and smooth as a car ....... my advice would be, get a car or a Goldwing! 😊Good review, Mr Bob, I ride quite a few of the roads that you ride, Mendips etc, interesting roads. Cheers, Phil
@@chrro466 👍
I suspect the few words in your summary about riding the Guerilla 450 for 2 months says a lot more than this nine-minute review.
@@owlteachereducation That's very kind, thank you. Yes, I suppose it is easier to comment on a bike once you've got used to it.
Hi there MB, just watched this vid and really liked it and the Guerilla. Not too keen on the blue version , the black/yellow/purple one would my choice.
Besides the more modern and some might say nicer dash on Guerilla, I can't think of another reason someone would buy it over a speed 400.
May just come down to availability. I live in a large city in TX and you can get RE from at least 3 dealers where we only have one option for Triumph, and as someone who got a 400x from them... it's not the greatest.
Other than that, maybe accessories. The 400s dont have a ton of options, though slowly growing, but I imagine these will have more options available.
Wider torque band
Long stroke engines
The Guerrilla is pretty cool, but I'm waiting for the Interceptor Bear!
Ah yeah, Bears are coming. :)
We got one in the shop. Looks very different in person much better than the videos
Cool. Nice to read that.
Thank you for reviewing it ❤
Trying to decide between the Speed400 and Guerrilla450. Bring the comparison video ASAP, Motobob!
Probably my next bike, my fave colour too, will look to trade in my Vulcan if the price is right..
I feel like I need a 400 in my garage and am heading towards the Guerrilla. Triumph is prettier, Svartpilen/390 duke feels quicker and a little more modern but the Royal Enfield hits the sweet spot for me. Small point is the servicing costs seem much more reasonable at a Royal Enfield dealer as opposed to Triumph/Ktm but that might just be my local dealers
looks good riding past the Kicker did that 40 plus years ago
This bike is very cool looking playa black is the one i will get cant wait ...
RE are killing it with their new bikes.
Colours not one id jump at but not going to complain, nice to see some colour for once! Makes a change from the monotonous blacks, greys, whites and reds you see everywhere
How does the engine power feel compared to the similar powered Triumphs Speed 400 which is probably its major competition ?
@@chrro466midrange is where you need it.
@@chrro466reall? i think speed 400 is well packaged prettier bike and guerilla is more engaging bike & little bit more character.
Nice set up matey. I like the the silver with silver being my favourite colour, think the looks better then the triumph 400 although not as refined. I think with the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 twisty roads motorcycles are in their element and best riding. 😅
Strange, I didn’t notice the vibes, but found the brakes very wooden. Same bike?🤷♂️
Agree on the brakes, felt very wooden to me too
Same bike, no vibes. :) Brakes were OK, but nothing exceptional. :)
A very good review. After the Himalayan I have to try also this one. :)
I have the Himalayan 450 and yes when the engine is new it is very vibby but get some miles on it and the engine becomes smoother and the vibes soon disappear .
I bought a 350 Meteor a few years back and it has been great, I did a mountain tour in Thailand 2 up when it was new and that was the one weakness. My next run is southern Thailand without the mountains so it should be good. I have been contemplating a 40 bhp bike for a while now, as is my friend who has that barge called a Honda Forza, a bloody awful bike. Next year we may both have either a Triumph Speed or one of these.
That welded-on muffler/footpeg support looks like a short cut to a new frame if you fall off. Would look better with a simpler paint job.
Rob, what other bikes do you have in the garage at 1:57
Indian Scouts! :)
CEAT-TIRES is part of the PIRELLI-GROUP!
Great looking bike, but would prefer a scrambler version of it with the 450cc engine.
Guerrilla 450 is the best and the most beautifull bike
Well I am more excited for interceptor 750 it's gonna be a sweet bike with some poke at top.
The links to the jeans don’t appear to be working for me.
i would rather wait for RE to update this bike, it still look rough around the edges
For me it's the Bear 650
I agree that it almost looks good but something seems a bit off. Saw it at NEC yesterday. I’d get the Triumph if I wasn’t far too big for either.
It is not on the US RE website yet, is NA going to get this bike?
Royal Enfield Guerrilla looks quite interesting but is stepping in quite a busy market of 400 cc bikes
I haven’t ridden one of these or a Himalayan and I currently ride a Honda CB500F. What I like about this bike over the Honda, is the reduced weight ,extra agility around town . Also being a single cylinder 450 the cheaper servicing costs. I don’t like the too small fuel tank,which is a styling overkill in my opinion. I wonder if you could fit a Himalayan tank? I’d try. I’d try to fit the aftermarket bikini fairing I have on the Honda and the Givi topbox or failing that the Enfield one.
I’m getting to the stage where I just do urban commuting with a bit of motorway riding.
Hey @motobob. I know you prefer the speed 400 to this. Do you think this bike is just as good for beginners?
Well in my opinion the speed 400 looks better…. funny thing is that a lot of people have been complaining about the Triumph and the BSA having a radiator…. now the 450’s RE have a radiator too …. but not one complaining about the looks of it…. but in my opinion it’s a hideous design… just saying…. 🤣
Maybe people aren't complaining about these bikes is cps they're not trying to be retro. Guerilla and Himi aren't trying to look retro like the interceptor or Something.
So....Rebel Horn? Does it have a sister company called Morning Wood? Not sure i could wrap myself in Rebel Horn.... Great bike review btw....😉🤪
It looks good
Funny how each reviewer see bikes differently. This reviewer thought this bike was more vibrating than the Triumph 400. Another UA-cam reviewer ‘Nothing to Prove’ rode a Triumph 400 on a freeway and had to get off it early because the vibration from the bike became too much numbing parts of his body.
Can’t believe you liked the brakes. I found them incredibly wooden!
Brakes are quite sharp...done over 4k kms
I bought a Speed in April and its a very good small capacity bike i commute on it when the weathers decent to keep miles off the car and enjoy the back roads.
I think this answers some of the weaknesses of the Triumph that being a centre stand theres not even bobbin mounts on the Speed, the front mudguard is much more functional the rad on my speed gets quite dirty.
The instrument TFT screen on the top versions is a big plus.
RE missed a trick with the tank capacity though and the radiator looks stuck on as an afterthought not integrated in.
I like the chain being on the opposite side to the exhaust of the RE thsts got to ma ke maintenance easier though the Speed has the edge on service intervals though not too many folk will do 10k pa i feel .
I have a Triumph dealership in my city there is an RE one 8 miles away better than Honda and modt other marques 30plus miles away.
The Speed is a bit low geared for my taste and the small screen accessory is not much use plus all accessories have taken far too long to get to customers.
Theres a couple of niggles with the control electronics too immobilser light on currently and the kill switch has operated with no input from myself tho am sure RE will have teething issues.
Speed us better looking but will need some colour varity soon i really like the RE playa black.
At 7:03 mins, the shot is of a tire with spokes, but the exhaust is the same. Which bike is in that shot?
That's the Himalayan 450
Hi. Could I ask what helmet mount is that for your DJI osmo camera?
I have XSR 700 and this bike looks like XSR mini version
An honest, affordable, modern, road biased motorcycle.👌😎👍
EDIT: The looks its an acquired taste. I guess you either love it or hate it. I'm ok with it.
I'm not sure about the styling, the tank doesn't look quite right probably due to the tall engine. I would have to say the the Triumph looks nicer. Also the road tax is half the price on the Triumph so possibly cheaper running costs? I'm glad RE have made it, but in many ways I think they should of developed their air cooled engines to give around 30bhp which probably would be enough to give them the occasional highway speed capability. I guess they feel they have done that with the classic 650 twin but a 30bhp single would still be nice, especially at a competitive price. I suppose you could buy a Honda 350 now they have released them on the European market as at least it has a bit more top speed than the RE350's with the same classic looks.
The Scram 440 will launch in January. Its about 25 bhp. Simple air/oil cool unit, lower spec'd , easier to maintain, with some ability to go"soft roading"
Debating between this and the bear...This about 2k cheaper and better mpg and still good on highway
you say suspension is firm - but is it really firm or too soft with so much sag that its operating in the hardest part of its crappy progressive suspension? (as it was the case with so many other bikes before)
RE: the boots. I notice Rebelhorn have only one dealership in the UK, which is in Bristol (I'm in London). Are their boots true to size? I tried on some boots in my local J&S a few weeks ago and they very much weren't. I'm normally a size 10 (men's) and I tried on the only boots they had that I could afford, and couldn't even get my feet in,.
Love it! Just needs tkc80 knobbies.
: D
What about the CFMoto 450 NK, Looks a bargain at £4300 and that's a twin too
Is it too compact for someone over 6 foot ?
Living in Thailand, I am far more interested than the forthcoming Scram 440. Air cooled and two vallves. I don't you'll get it in GB/EU.
Took one for a short test ride the other week. Didn’t expect much of it, my last two bikes were MT-09’s, hooligan machines so was expecting this to be quite sedate… it’s anything but and I loved it, walking back into the dealer with a massive grin… so I have one on order 😂
The best road bike in RE’s lineup is the Continental GT 650.
Lol .The unpractical one .
Compare it with speed 400
As long as you need the smartphone ON and ON THE APP everytime you're taking advantage of the gmaps on the tft it is absolutely useless. That's the most urgent and needed update to the system they need to do.
Looks like it needs a 19” front tire and it’d be a great scrambler
I'm wondering if that will be next for this platform, a proper scrambler styled version to sit between the Himalayan and this which they describe as a roadster.
@@davidholden2658 It will come sooner or later. They were expecting a Scram 452 in India before this.
A Scrambler has already been unveiled. Its the Himalayan Scram 440 which will go into production in January. It's not the same 450 mill though, rather the older 411 long stroker with increased an bore taking it to 440 CC. Price wise I think it will sit lower than the Guerilla since it has a simpler mill with basic componentry.
That jacket looks scary with the vents open!
There are two modes on the bike. Performance and eco. Check the modes you were driving.
CF moto 450NK lower price with a twin cylinder engine looks like a good alternative.
Yeah. CF also does have better fit and finish. But REs seem to be built with more durable materials and can habdle falls better than the CF.
I see those scouts in the back
I heard thair will launch the Zirafah after this
What’s real mpg
Its an amazing bike but all the insurance companies are confused by it and either say they can't do it or will ask for the value of the bike. Its too new. I can get insured on any other bike for a fraction of that. Just a normal quote for the insurance on a 900 sports bike but not on this 😂
As all us older riders know it needs to be run in before it smooths out , todays riders are just too soft .
Can't be a scrambler with a 17" front wheel, that's why it doesn't look quiet right, looks like a naked more to me. I'd have the Triumph's every time.
It aint a scrambler mate. They have launched a Scram 440 which will hit the roads in India in January 25.
Hopefully they make a 650 version
They making a 650 scrambler.
@@MohdAsif-Alpha I dont want a bear 650. I want a guerrilla 650 :(
@@LR975mj bear 650 already came. I'm talking another one, which is 650 scrambler.
Nice bike but the pegs stuck into my calves like the Interceptor.
Looks good to me it's a road bike not a pretend air-cooled unlike the Triumph
It looks OK but the service intervals, run in time and depreciation puts me off owning one.
It’s a good bike I own it
I think personally that the RE will have better reliability over the Speed 400. I read some horror stories already regarding the Triumph 400.
What are those stories?
I can attest to this. I own an Interceptor and my brother owns the Triumph Scram 400X. My Interceptor has the usual niggles like the infamous battery drain issue and the wobbling front wheel but apart from that its holding up well since 1.5 years. The bolts have not rusted, nothing has come loose either.
The Triumph on the other hand has issues with the immobilizer, the speedo became non functional within a year, bolts have started to rust, paint chipping on the handle bar ends, chain picks up rust in a few miles even after lubing, unexpected engine stalls even after firmware updates, etc.
Also both me and my brother have similar riding styles and maintain the bikes pretty similarly too so there's that.
You need to ride that Bear 650 before you reach that 'Best Enfield' conclusion.
Love the stuff that Royal Enfield has been doing of late. As a style exercise and total package, I think I like the Guerrilla 450 and Bear 650 bikes the best. I'd probably prefer the twin cylinder the most, for smoothness, sound, and grunt.
that bike looks the best of the 400 450 's
I like the ruggedness of this bike. Not interested in fancy paint jobs and gold forks. Certainly going to have a test ride.
Good review! I just want to give my opinions. I've own more than 26 motorcycles, did test-rides 100'ths of motorcycle.
From motorscooter to hypersport. Also the Duke 390, the vitpilen 401, meteor 350 and tested alnlot of bikes. Last week I've tested the guerrilla 450 and a nice bike but I don't want to have it.
A couple points why not.
- the first gear is pinched. If you open the throttle it hold back. Seems to be by mapping for beginners that you can't have the full power immediately.
- the throttle is too sensitive. For my opinion a lot on/off. So when you ride it with a passenger the helmets will collide now and then. When you riding alone the same. It drives more easy than a Duke 390 for sure. But it remains a single cilinder. I've test ridden a CB500Hornet and CL500 afterwards and I love the engine character more. More smooth to ride.
- and you can not discuss colors and tastes but what have they done with the colors. 😮 There is a monotone color coming up (purple brown with with royal Enfield written on it. Much better).
Royal Enfield did a good job to jump on the water-cooled engines but as well with the Himalayan they have some homework to do. It was the same with the Duke 390. I've bought the first coming out version and drove the same bike years later and it was better in the mapping. So Royal Enfield, I love it but the new engines need some more attention to be better build.
- and I would change the tires. Especially when you'll ride just and alone on concrete roads.
Again, just my thoughts and opinion. 🙂
Unfortunately, CFmoto sells a far superior bike for $1000Au less. Would love to support an Indian brand, but good-will doesn’t pay my rent.
They all seem to be copying the 2015 Ducati Scrambler
Bike proportion looks nice, but the colours are childish. I wish to see more classic and conservative color schemes.
I test rode a Himalayan and found it remarkably smooth, maybe this bike was a dog?
Turn your hat around the right way - you’re not a teenager ;)
I love the color schemes. Bikes have become boring.
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The rear brakes are squeezing down and stopping the wheel from freely spinning, worsening the mileage. Please check the quality of brakes and turn the rear wheel to check the play. Very thirsty bike, cant travel long distance, need a gas tank to take with you always
On this bike, 5 things are deal breaker for me:-
1) 11-litre tank.
2) the TFT screen
3) no usd forks
4) is the inclusion of centre stand
5) no traction control
Deal break in which direction? You don't want those things or you do?
Do you really need upside down forks on a bike like this
1.) It does get like 3.5L/100km though
2.) Too modern I guess?
3.) USD or not doesn't matter too mich as long as they are adjustable
4.) That could legit be annoying, but therr are probably aftermarlet options or RE even offfer one as extra option
5.) At 40ish hp, TC is a bit overkilll IMO. Maybe good to have to pouring rain or almost freezing temps
I would suggest riding it some time. Lots of these hurdles can become invisible after time
@ianmason3040 well bikes in 400cc or it's rivals should i say, do offer
@someguy9520 @someguy9520
1) 11-litre tank is less compared to its rivals as 11-litre is like using a 500ml water bottle that you have to fill thrice on your way to your destination or for touring. Which kinda limits your long distance touring.
2) it's not about modern. The thing is you have keep your phones' display on if you are connecting to that TFT screen. Cause if it gets screen locked, it gets disconnected. Like for example, cars have android auto or Apple car play. You connect it via Bluetooth and can operate it while your phone's screen is locked. That's not the case for RE's TFT screen as you have to keep the phone's screen on which results in severe battery drain.
3) To me, going from RSUs to USDs is called an upgrade and going from USDs to RSUs is a downgrade. Sure, USDs are expensive compared to RSUs but some rivals do offer USDs as an advantage.
4) If it were an adv or had tube tires, then mainstand would make sense. Adding mainstand just makes it more heavier. Why have it on a roadster?
5) Traction control is a must have cause the tires are least gripy. In dry, alright but in wet, you'll be skidding alot.
Lastly Please note, I've taken the test drive and I'm sharing my opinion with what I felt about the bike. And I'm not spreading any hate towards the bike.
Sorry not for me, not enough power 😢
Think that the wheels should of been the other way around colour wise, or better still one colour on both.
❤Royal Enfield 🇮🇳👍
Himalayan frame gets brake from front side of the engine hope this don't have same problem 😏😏