Even the pre rendered stuff from the forzatech engine isn't all that great. The polyphony engine is insanely more robust and has been used over the years to make actual manufacturer CAD renders for marketing purposes. The most well known was whwn ferrari partnered with polyphony for the California reveal back in the early 2000s. I haven't seen anything from the forzatech engine that would suggest it can handle the data streams that polyphony pushes through their engine.
Not on everything. The thing is that the taul material is disgusting on FM. It looks like Xbox One... But look at pictures of a Cobra 427 from that time, some details are better on FM, others on GT. On FM, they got the wrong model for some finishes... But the 2 rear round lights on GT are less faithful, as well as their 2 blue stripes, too wide. I prefer the engine sounds on FM, as well as the gear noises. But it's pretty crazy that FH5 from 2021 in open world does better graphically than this latest FM... On a closed world, there are normally fewer constraints =/
@Quasmin Depends on what model they scanned. Polyphony scans their models and transfers them into the engine. Forza does not. Polyphony has been noted since GT sport as having the most accurate scans in the industry. If you think something isn't right, then research where and what was scanned to get that. They are famously known to not take liberties in rendering their car models for quite some time.
i notice that the cars in GT look like literally real life cars, but other than that the environments look empty, like when you pause the game it looks like a real life car put in a video game, and it looks like they cranked up the contrast like hell, forza looks like youre watching a race through a camera, the environments look very detailed like REALLY detailed. and the less color look, makes it fit in with the environment, cars dont look like they were straight pulled out of a showroom in races (most of the time), just pausing makes me see how out of place the cars in GT7 feels like sometimes. i wonder if im the only person that sees it this way. (3:02)
I actively play both games and I agree with you. Also, while GT7 gives me a feeling of loneliness, Forza has a complete racing festival feel and of course Forza has better racing content. As for the vehicles, GT7 definitely makes you feel like you are driving a real vehicle better than Forza.
I wish I could turn the bloom down in GT7. Everything looks photorealistic, but then you get this massive white fuzz over every reflective surface which just kills it.
@@lukeclayton7578 The rear lights and fuel cover are wrong, just for starters... There's no "variations", the car is the car... This is the kind of crap people keep pointing out in Forza and turn blind eye when is on GT
I like FM8, only think that i miss is KI-Racers in Multyplayermatches with friends. Maybe GT7 is better, but Online-Racing in FM is really cool with the training&qualy and much different classes/servers🤩🖖
For someone who has actually been to Laguna seca in northern California I can say the color tone of Forza is way more accurate. Gt7 hillsides are way too saturated. It's not covered in deep green grass. Forza is more accurate
It does feature grass in many areas. But the most important thing is the scan which forza is severally lacking in quality. Not to mention their compulsive nature to just randomly place trees around the environment. GT features a far more accurate scan and far more accurate landmark placement.
You can find a LOT of photos online of Laguna Seca during different times of the year, and you WILL see a lot of green around the track. In fact, i have them screenshotted on my phone right now if I need to prove this.
Why does the paint look so flat in Forza, that is impossible for the vista scene to have this glossy paint job, but on the track it looks like matte paint. Why is it folks always record Forza @30fps replay, even on PC. Is that an engine thing, it's very annoying. Also why do engine sounds in Forza, come off as so one size fits all. All v8's do not sound the same, i think that 18 month thing was true, because the cut corners can be seen, and heard.
La vista dentro el coche es mucho mejor en Forza Motorsport 👍 Además, si no te gusta así puedes cambiar y arreglarla a tu gusto, lo que no puedes hacer con el otro juego !!
GT7 for the win this time. Far prefer the Cobra and because it’s a desert, GT7 is not over saturated. Is it possible to do a clear night comparison for a change? I was doing some night racing last evening in FM as part of a challenge and thought it would be interesting to see the differences in these 2 games at night. Thanks for sharing.👍
GT7 looks much better and is unbeatable, but in terms of fun and progression I prefer Forza. Unfortunately, there has been nothing to do in GT7 for months.
GT7 = simulated to look like an edited commercial magazine ad or Formula One broadcast with heavy use of an ND Filter. Forza = simulated to look like an unedited live IMSA broadcast or in person. I suggest all to actually watch an IMSA wet race then judge. GT7 doesn't come remotely close aside from track drying simulation.
Fanboy/girl doesn't equal expert. I could just as easily say to look at European races. Different broadcast cameras and peoples TV can show up on different camera gamuts. What isn't up for debate is that GT7 cars definitely bear more resemblance to real life; more accurate, colours, details, dimensions, badges, interiors, visible engines, brake discs, light coverings and more.
@@cookedit I've been to real races. Forza looks more realistic than GT7. Re-read what I said, and this time take it very slowly. What did I say in the first sentence? What did I say in the second sentence? I already accounted for the differences in broadcast cameras regionally. They're both flawed, and Asseto Corsa blows both of them out of the water graphically. Seriously watch the most recent IMSA wet weather highlights from like 3 days ago. There's literally even less visibility in real wet weather racing than both games. Just an fyi, I've been in broadcasting and film making for 20yrs, I don't care if you agree with me or not.
@@dct124So now you Bring Assetto Corsa into the mix to dodge the *FACT* that GT7 cars look a lot more "realistic" (since it is realism you are talking about) than Forza's. I'd rather trust the real video game experts like Digital Foundry who stated GT7 looks better. *THE CARS THE STAR* in both games, yet you conveniently ignore that to suck Forza's exhaust pipe.
@@cookedit Dodge? Are you 12? My point in mentioning it is to say both have work to do. My suggestion for you is to go outside in the real world. Watch the video and ask yourself which looks like what you see in the real world. GT7 looks like pages out of a magazine shot with a camera. Forza looks closer to the real world with your own eyes.
@@dct124Sorry, dodge was the wrong word. Delusional would be more appropriate. Realism in both games includes the cars. And GT7's cars are more realistic. When was the last time you went to a "real race" and saw a Nissan Silvia S15 shaped like a jellybean like in Forza. Or washed out paint colours or candy wrapper glaze of Forza. Keep making excuses.
Racing vista su forza motorsport non attiva il RT, lo specchietto retrovisore dalla chase can non funzionano come dovrebbero. Anche i riflessi sull'auto scompaiono senza il RT
GT7 looks better in lighting, reflections, car modeling, and shading. Forza's sound is way better though, and they did really good with the environment detail on this track.
No it’s not the fake reflections on the car the sun bounces the same from every angle and the cars look too plastic the light is also baked forza looks so much better and plays better coming from I guy that has both
@@AlphariousOmegon-d5d what cope if you haven’t played forza recently after update 13 you got no clue the game is fire gets updated every month your missing out on an awesome game because your a fanboy play both
I just read GT7’s next update will enable 1 million frames per second. I understand 500 thousands frames a second was not enough to satisfy their most demanding players, which you obviously are.👍
![GRAN TURISMO 7 ENHANCED [ PS5 PRO ] VS FORZA MOTORSPORT 8 [ GEFORCE RTX ] | GRAPHICS BATTLE RT](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5tj3RTNVl_A/mqdefault.jpg)
Even the oilpressure moves with the revs in GT7
Forza’s game engine is just so good and has so much potential, but GT7 is just much better crafted.
In Forza every car have the same sound 😂
@@bighouse3788 it does feel like that ngl 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Even the pre rendered stuff from the forzatech engine isn't all that great. The polyphony engine is insanely more robust and has been used over the years to make actual manufacturer CAD renders for marketing purposes. The most well known was whwn ferrari partnered with polyphony for the California reveal back in the early 2000s. I haven't seen anything from the forzatech engine that would suggest it can handle the data streams that polyphony pushes through their engine.
The car design is night and day. GT all the way 👍
Not on everything. The thing is that the taul material is disgusting on FM. It looks like Xbox One... But look at pictures of a Cobra 427 from that time, some details are better on FM, others on GT. On FM, they got the wrong model for some finishes... But the 2 rear round lights on GT are less faithful, as well as their 2 blue stripes, too wide.
I prefer the engine sounds on FM, as well as the gear noises. But it's pretty crazy that FH5 from 2021 in open world does better graphically than this latest FM... On a closed world, there are normally fewer constraints =/
Google the car and see who actually was the right model going for on
@@luke_y_444 erm gran turismo 7 has seriel or chassi code numbers on cars that some detail that forza does not have
@Quasmin
Depends on what model they scanned. Polyphony scans their models and transfers them into the engine. Forza does not. Polyphony has been noted since GT sport as having the most accurate scans in the industry. If you think something isn't right, then research where and what was scanned to get that. They are famously known to not take liberties in rendering their car models for quite some time.
@@aaronsmith7143 I agree. People talk without knowing a damn thing...
The Forza Car is not even to the correct scale.. Lol
GT7 looks so much better
Gt is to shiny, like an Anime Version of Car's
And the Cobra sounds like a Honda Civic
@@kaiherrmann9481 lol forzas cobra looks like it's made of paper mache 😂
@@High.on.Life_DnByour mom looks like she’s made of paper mache
@@FatsoJackson so original! Very good joke 👏
i notice that the cars in GT look like literally real life cars, but other than that the environments look empty, like when you pause the game it looks like a real life car put in a video game, and it looks like they cranked up the contrast like hell, forza looks like youre watching a race through a camera, the environments look very detailed like REALLY detailed. and the less color look, makes it fit in with the environment, cars dont look like they were straight pulled out of a showroom in races (most of the time), just pausing makes me see how out of place the cars in GT7 feels like sometimes. i wonder if im the only person that sees it this way. (3:02)
I actively play both games and I agree with you. Also, while GT7 gives me a feeling of loneliness, Forza has a complete racing festival feel and of course Forza has better racing content. As for the vehicles, GT7 definitely makes you feel like you are driving a real vehicle better than Forza.
I wish I could turn the bloom down in GT7. Everything looks photorealistic, but then you get this massive white fuzz over every reflective surface which just kills it.
they overdone it but it's better than no reflections imo
I like the environment in Forza, but the car model is a lot better in GT
Google the car and see who actually was the right model going on
Both are correct, just different variants / trims.
@@lukeclayton7578 The rear lights and fuel cover are wrong, just for starters... There's no "variations", the car is the car... This is the kind of crap people keep pointing out in Forza and turn blind eye when is on GT
@@Quasmin you are wrong
I like FM8, only think that i miss is KI-Racers in Multyplayermatches with friends.
Maybe GT7 is better, but Online-Racing in FM is really cool with the training&qualy and much different classes/servers🤩🖖
Please stop using racing tires on standard cars in GT7 for these comparisons, I'm begging you lol
These two games look like they are from different generations
That Forza model is about 20 years old lol
For someone who has actually been to Laguna seca in northern California I can say the color tone of Forza is way more accurate. Gt7 hillsides are way too saturated. It's not covered in deep green grass. Forza is more accurate
It does feature grass in many areas. But the most important thing is the scan which forza is severally lacking in quality. Not to mention their compulsive nature to just randomly place trees around the environment. GT features a far more accurate scan and far more accurate landmark placement.
You can find a LOT of photos online of Laguna Seca during different times of the year, and you WILL see a lot of green around the track. In fact, i have them screenshotted on my phone right now if I need to prove this.
The sound of the cobra in GT7 also as great as in GT5.
Both games are beautiful
Gear shifting is better in FM.
GT7 nails the graphics
I like Forza more… but both games are just fine. Play whatever console you have… you will have fun either way!
Forza Motorsport 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 forever
It's incredible... FM8 is very beautiful, but GT7 manages to be even more so.
GT7 ALL THE WAY.
Gran turismo vai ser sempre melhor!
Even the windshield frame reflects the sunshine in GT7
Fake baked sunshine...
Why does the paint look so flat in Forza, that is impossible for the vista scene to have this glossy paint job, but on the track it looks like matte paint.
Why is it folks always record Forza @30fps replay, even on PC. Is that an engine thing, it's very annoying. Also why do engine sounds in Forza, come off as so one size fits all. All v8's do not sound the same, i think that 18 month thing was true, because the cut corners can be seen, and heard.
La vista dentro el coche es mucho mejor en Forza Motorsport 👍
Además, si no te gusta así puedes cambiar y arreglarla a tu gusto, lo que no puedes hacer con el otro juego !!
En ese otro juego también se puede ajustar/cambiar el modo de vista en la cabina.
Nfs underground looks better than Motorsport. How do you go from fh5 to that?
I swear FM8 is just FM4 or FM5 upscaled to fit new gen and PC 😂
Car in Forza is an old build new build is coming
Do you know when, or is it a guess?
There wont be any new models in any of the current forza games.
Is forza on PC or Xbox here
Xbox Series X. Both games run at 4K60 Performance mode.
GT7 for the win this time. Far prefer the Cobra and because it’s a desert, GT7 is not over saturated. Is it possible to do a clear night comparison for a change? I was doing some night racing last evening in FM as part of a challenge and thought it would be interesting to see the differences in these 2 games at night. Thanks for sharing.👍
I'm gonna do night and rain comparisons focused around tracks.
@@racingvista Good stuff!
Both games can be said as if they're different times of the year, because Laguna Seca does get greener depending on the time of year.
Forza sounds better if Gt7 looks better likewise
Forza sounds better
Forza crew got lazy
Thomas Shelby sigma
😭🙏
3:27 How can anyone say that the GT7 is better? That doesn't make sense to my eyes
Gotta get your eyes checked bud.
Bro, Can you tell me, what in this frame, forza looks better than GT7?
Chrome applications reflected of the sun. Is realistic
engine sound in forza is better
Nope
GT7 looks much better and is unbeatable, but in terms of fun and progression I prefer Forza.
Unfortunately, there has been nothing to do in GT7 for months.
Same for Motorsport. Just a brain dead list of races and toxic multiplayer
Forza all the way
The forza one looks insanly outdated
GT7 = simulated to look like an edited commercial magazine ad or Formula One broadcast with heavy use of an ND Filter.
Forza = simulated to look like an unedited live IMSA broadcast or in person.
I suggest all to actually watch an IMSA wet race then judge. GT7 doesn't come remotely close aside from track drying simulation.
Fanboy/girl doesn't equal expert. I could just as easily say to look at European races. Different broadcast cameras and peoples TV can show up on different camera gamuts. What isn't up for debate is that GT7 cars definitely bear more resemblance to real life; more accurate, colours, details, dimensions, badges, interiors, visible engines, brake discs, light coverings and more.
@@cookedit I've been to real races. Forza looks more realistic than GT7. Re-read what I said, and this time take it very slowly. What did I say in the first sentence? What did I say in the second sentence? I already accounted for the differences in broadcast cameras regionally.
They're both flawed, and Asseto Corsa blows both of them out of the water graphically.
Seriously watch the most recent IMSA wet weather highlights from like 3 days ago. There's literally even less visibility in real wet weather racing than both games.
Just an fyi, I've been in broadcasting and film making for 20yrs, I don't care if you agree with me or not.
@@dct124So now you Bring Assetto Corsa into the mix to dodge the *FACT* that GT7 cars look a lot more "realistic" (since it is realism you are talking about) than Forza's. I'd rather trust the real video game experts like Digital Foundry who stated GT7 looks better. *THE CARS THE STAR* in both games, yet you conveniently ignore that to suck Forza's exhaust pipe.
@@cookedit Dodge? Are you 12? My point in mentioning it is to say both have work to do.
My suggestion for you is to go outside in the real world. Watch the video and ask yourself which looks like what you see in the real world.
GT7 looks like pages out of a magazine shot with a camera.
Forza looks closer to the real world with your own eyes.
@@dct124Sorry, dodge was the wrong word. Delusional would be more appropriate. Realism in both games includes the cars. And GT7's cars are more realistic. When was the last time you went to a "real race" and saw a Nissan Silvia S15 shaped like a jellybean like in Forza. Or washed out paint colours or candy wrapper glaze of Forza. Keep making excuses.
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GT still has that vacuum sound, the only thing I hate about it
So... I said you should turn RT on for both games to show the best from both... so you made a video with RT on in FM and off in GT7 🙃
Racing vista su forza motorsport non attiva il RT, lo specchietto retrovisore dalla chase can non funzionano come dovrebbero. Anche i riflessi sull'auto scompaiono senza il RT
RT is on replay mode only on GT7 and I personally think it looks better without. Wait for PS5 Pro with RT, will be much better than both we see here.
@@RiccardoFrezza Look at the scenes in garage. Forza has RT reflections on in there and in GT7 tgey are set to off.
@@cookedit 😂😂😂
Both sounds terrible
GT7 looks better in lighting, reflections, car modeling, and shading. Forza's sound is way better though, and they did really good with the environment detail on this track.
Forza's sound design is horrible, FM7 was the last passable sounding game in the series and FM4 was the last good sounding game in the series.
This update made the game impossible due to freezes. I hoped it would be good. I'm deleting this was the last chance for this crap
GT7 is just that much better!
No it’s not the fake reflections on the car the sun bounces the same from every angle and the cars look too plastic the light is also baked forza looks so much better and plays better coming from I guy that has both
@jasonash6002 I've tried forza on my pc, but clearly wasn't as good as GT7. It shits all over foreskin
@@AlphariousOmegon-d5d ok knob whatever pony boy you’ve never played show me your gamertag
@@jasonash6002 hahaha the COPE on this joke 🤡🤡🤡
@@AlphariousOmegon-d5d what cope if you haven’t played forza recently after update 13 you got no clue the game is fire gets updated every month your missing out on an awesome game because your a fanboy play both
Gt7 movement also looks so fake and simulated, unnatural
It's the repetition, already in gameplay it looks and feels different
GT7 sounds much better. It has got more of a carbureted tone which I believe to be accurate for a car of that era. FM just sounds like a generic V8.
one year later Forza is still just mediocre at best
This means you gonna need to buy a Pro and do this all over again... Although GT7 already won anyway...
Will do! 😉👍
Gran Turismo 7 👍👍👍👍👍 Absolutely Fantastic 👍👍👍👍👍
Forza Motosport 👎👎👎👎👎
Ok pony boy
Forza looks like 30 fps compare to GT7 with VRR and 100+ fps lol
I just read GT7’s next update will enable 1 million frames per second. I understand 500 thousands frames a second was not enough to satisfy their most demanding players, which you obviously are.👍
Forza Motorsport =💩
Have you noticed the changes they made in the new updates?
Forza engine sounds like a motorcycle engine
Forza boat racing...😛😜🤪😝🚤