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I was originally mad at the fact the announced no limitations with crsf when they announced pre orders. But!!! Having spoken to jumper directly, and that they have admitted to making an error during testing using suspect batteries, as long as you have a high current(15A+) 18650 it will be fine down to 3.4v when the low battery alert will signal. The Sony U18650VTC6 for example can keep output in over 10A at 3.4v They said they want to keep their current statement as they can't account everyone will use a high current quality battery, so taking the cautious approach. Hopefully the power supply will be corrected in the next version. Latest testing has had crossfire at 1W over 5km with no telemetry issues. There is also the choice of external power for crsf so if you are going long range or want more battery the option is there. Its an excellent bang for the buck radio and isn't far off beating the top radios in my opinion.
Thanks for the nice summary. The battery issue will be tested as soon as I get my molicel 45A battery. I also plan to test with the full sized crossfire too. Stay tuned...
Excellent overview of the radio. Looks like an excellent value. I personally like the larger radio's like the Radiomaster. But I definitely can see the reasons why people like gamepad style. My nephew is getting into flying, if he sticks with it this may be a good upgrade for him.
I was waiting for your review but I couldn't wait anymore and had to buy it. I am fairly optimistic about it. Hopefully your review doesn't make me regret my purchase. I honestly feel like your reviews are the most thorough on youtube.
Thanks. I think it's overall a good value. It just may not be the best for external module pilots if the power problems are more than just due to poor batteries. I will find out soon and make another video about that.
Even if Albert's next review puts the nail in the coffin for crsf and makes jumpers claims BS, you can still use 1-2W crossfire with an external power supply, and ghost is fully operational as is. Is it slightly irritating, yes, but worst case, you will have a cable with a battery in your pocket.
@@GregQuillen I'm not sure i understand what you want to use. I wouldn't try plugging directly into a mains power brick or anything like that. But any 5V powerbank plugged into the nano should work fine. Up to 2W. There good for up to 2A generally so thats and crsf shouldn't take much more than that. If you do use a powerbank with higher current output then I wouldn't worry about it, the module will only take what current it needs. If you had a 5V 100A power bank it would work haha. Main thing is just to make sure its got a good amount of mah juice The issue is the odd spike which crsf is known for which is causing the radio issues with voltage sag.
@@GregQuillen will be absolutely fine. Anyone who said it won't be is mad haha. Voltage is the important number. Just remember lower the voltage, the more current it will need. So if your using a 5V 3A supply, you should be golden. Generally crsf on 100mW will use around 2W which is around 0.4A. Plenty room for higher powers.
I was waiting for your review to make my final decision. I have been checking your channel every day for this. thanks for the hard work. I guess I will get it for now. When tango 2 is back in stock, I will get that for crossfire. That will cover a lot of protocol for the price.
They probably figured out that they needed to add damping grease to the gimbal tension slides. I used Nyogel 767a on my Jumper T12 once and it was silent ever since.
The only drawback for me is the 25mw for crossfire. Thanks for the info! Now this become so much more viable to me. Do share your finding with the better battery with nano tx at maybe 1w
The main contender for me with this is the radiomaster tx12. I don’t really mind the form factor but more of the build quality but slight leaning toward the t lite for the nano module (cause I’m using tango 2 as well) but toward radiomaster for its built quality. Which one would you go for?
I tried to find information about the 3D mount for the Hawkeye monitor in your description, but couldn't find anything. Can you tell me where I can order one? Or get the .stp file so I can send it to someone to make for me? Also, does it come with screws for the mount?
I was waiting for this review as I knew it would be better than the others. Why do they even bother sending these products to those other guys for half-baked reviews? Seriously, what is wrong with them?
I tried 250mW constant output today with a Panasonic cell today. No issues at least in the indoor test. One bad thing I notice is that the flimsy construction almost falls apart when I change the battery because the battery holder is quite tight. And the stick centering needs extra care because of some slop or you risk the big inputs.
Hi Albert, great video as always, you said you would explain how to change the default switch positions, but I can’t seem to find it in the video anywhere? I’ve searched the net but can’t find anything specific to the T-Lite, any chance you could explain how to do this. Cheers Zoobs
Thank you for your time & effort put on this review! Might very well be the best review I've seen about this radio. Definitely the first I've seen mentioning there's a step-up in the external bay adapter (that finally explains something I was wondering), and showing the OpenTX build including CrossFire en Ghost support! Thank you! 🙏
I did a pre-order, but am still waiting. So it won't impact my decision anyway 🙈 But I've always wondered how the external modules would be powered from just 1S and how the support would be for the CrossFire protocol. So I'm very grateful 🙏
I pre-ordered as a backup to my tango 2 because I already had a nano module playing around. I wasnt aware at launch of the 25mw issue. Bummer. I guess I'll just use it for whoops, and let my little brother use it for sims
I was told they tested it again with a better quality battery (Sony VTC6) and were able to fly on 1W of power out to 5km down to 3.4v. So, much better if that is true. I need to get the battery to test that claim however. In any case, be sure to use a good battery regardless.
@@AlbertKimTV yeah! I'll definitely be testing it once I get mine in. Though definitely through concret buildings. I'm not trying to hike several kilometers to retrieve a quad.
Ooh trim switches. I think most fixed wing pilots would rather use a big radio with a screen like the tx16s but if you want to build a fun wing it’s awesome that you could fly it with this radio. WINGS ROCK!
Yep, trim switches for those fixed wing pilots are always a good thing. I like how these buttons feel too. Good feedback and they feel solid. I still can't believe they sell this for so little. Yet people still complain this is too expensive? Shhheesh...
@@AlbertKimTV I would never think of this as expensive. I bought my tx16s for $140 and I felt like I committed a crime getting that radio for the price it is
The latest batch of these Jumper T-Lite radios have defective debounce capacitors on the buttons. There's pics around the internet of how to fix them, but it does fix the problem. Mine was defective out of the box and Jumper told me to take it apart and remove the debounce caps.
I just setting and trial my jumper T-Lite dan TBS Nano...I set power in 250mW, after fly trial...the drone fly distance just 15-20 mtr and drop...Any suggestion, what is the problem?
Maybe the smaller modules will work OK as I think they use less voltage. I'm thinking I'll be putting the ghost lite on mine whenever that comes out. 🤔 As always Albert you bring out issues no one else noticed lol 👍👍
Albert has more experience and knowledge with RC stuff than a lot of those other guys who are just in it for the affiliate cash. It's kinda sad the community supports this channel so poorly. He does so much for us, but he doesn't get the respect he deserves.
For good vids on 18650s look to vapers. Basically they’re shorting the battery in controlled situations. They’re always on to who is making the best high drain constant current batts.
My Tango 2 with MPM installed internally is only 40 grams heavier than the T-lite and it runs Crossfire and actually has a decent battery. Much better option IMHO. But I love the gimbals and the crown jewel stick ends.
You pay about 3 times as much for the Tango 2 - not sure if I would compare it. I personally prefer the T-Lite simply because I don't use CRSF at all and mainly fly whoops/micros - so I don't need an external module at all. If you fly CRSF - then yes, obviously the Tango 2 is the better choice.
I still have to properly investigate if a good battery is what will make this radio the one I will want to switch to or not. If it turns out people are just using poor quality batteries then that can partially explain some stuff. Right now, I have to wait for my batteries to arrive.
@@stylesuxx Twice the price for radio without modules but that’s comparing apples to oranges and I wouldn't compare at all either. Others are comparing with Tango 2 in terms of weight. Wouldn't give up CRSF and larger battery. Tango 2 plus IRange would be about $200. T-lite plus Crossfire module would be just under $160.
@@pksteffen Ah, I had in mind the Tango 2 was around 200$... I just have the feeling that lots of people expect the Jumper T-Lite to be more than it actually is.
@@AlbertKimTV I can only recommend Panasonic NCR18650 cells - but make sure to buy them from a legit vendor - lots of fakes going around of the 18650 cells. You can also check your closest vape shop - they should have plenty high capacity, high discharge (maybe not super high) 18650 cells in stock.
Thanks for the great review Albert, I've been waiting for a good lite radio this at this size and price point. It would make a nice second radio for quick portability. If a pro version for under $120 is made, that would much better.
Is it just me or did AK leave the clear plastic wrap over the screen on the Jumper T lite? I thought I saw it last video and I know I saw it this video.
You can just use an external powerbank for your external module. Might be a deal breaker for some ppl but if I can get 250 out of my crossfire rather than 25mh ......I'd say its totally worth throwing an extra powerbank in the go bag
The Lollipop3 antenna is overall good but I have gotten a few duds. Maybe out of 35 antennas, 2 have been no good. I mainly used this antenna here because the stubby version saves space over the stock antenna and CP antennas are generally better than linear ones.
Awesome review! Shouldnt an external lipo for crossfire solve the issue? I Always use external 3s lipo when i use crossfire on my nirvana or x9d. Also was it hard to mount the fullsize crossfire? Iam in the same boat having Only the fullsize crossfire. Would be great if i didnt need to buy Another module..
@@AlbertKimTV Think you accidentally replied to wrong comment. But Tbh, i've scoured youtube after the Ghost Nano and i've never seen it, nly render images of it. I don't think it exists yet.
The best 18650 batts go to us vapers... Vtc6, 25r, vtc5, lg, pretty much all vape batts work great in these types of controllers... Just plz dont go on a buying frenzy and flood the market as all the vape batts are cloned alot with subpar cells
Good afternoon, do you think this radio will give compatibility issues with frsky recent receivers? I know from personal experience that the BETAFPV Literadio 2 se is a no go....
Do you think a battery mod can be done, if so would you consider making a video doing this, mine has just arrived today, paid extra as I needed it for all my Radiolink recievers
I think something might be able to be done but not sure how easy it will be. I think it will be complicated because the charging circuit is right in the middle of all this.
I'm very interested in the lite versions of transmitters that have been coming out. I really enjoy my frsky qx7, however two things that really annoy me. Updating and accst going to access. But now that I got crossfire I'm pretty happy with my remote. One thing I'm happy you pointed out is the power draw and that's something that I think has been overlooked on other reviews.
whenever I connect the controller to the PC (win10) Controller starts to charge only , I don't even see any usb device in usb device manager , my pc is neglecting the remote controller so i am not able to use it in the flight simulator
Do you have any specifics on the screw hardware used for the Hawkey Mount to the Jumper T Lite? What's on the website doesn't seem correct, I bought the M1.6 screws for example, and they're too skinny for the Jumper T Lite.
I was considering a mod of having two 18650 batts in parallel on this T-lite. A wired external holder, some velcro. Same voltage but more oomph. See any problem?
Hey Albert, you mention you use an M3 screw for the tripod part of the mount, is that correct? I just got this mount and don't understand how that tiny hole is supposed to fit a 1/4 - 20 tripod bolt in there. Does the hawkeye littlepilot a smaller mounting hole than the standard 1/4 - 20 tripod mount? I'm really having trouble figuring out what hardware I need to either mount a tripod bracket style mount or my actual Hawkeye Littlepilot that comes in on Tuesday. Any help would be appreciated!
@@AlbertKimTV Thank you, I've seen photos of people attaching a phone clamp mount to this, and most phone mounts just use a tripod mount size. I was wondering how they got that attached. At least my Hawkeye will work simply. Thanks for your response as always!
I like the feel of these much better. These are the same as the ones on the T12 Pro. Compared to the X-Lite, the throw is more on these but the spring tension is much more loose. If you prefer stiff spring tension you probably won't like the stock feel. However, you can adjust the spring tension inside (I pointed to the screws in the video). You can't adjust the tension on the X-Lite.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for the info. I like the tension of the X-lite, but would like more throw. I think I'll keep my eye on Jumper and see if they release a "Pro" version of the T-Lite like you suggested. FYI - One of the pilots in my local FPV club figured out how to loosen the tension on the X-lite gimbals, but I'm not sure how.
Dear Albert, Love your videos! I just ordered the Jumper T-Lite using your affiliate link. What goggles do you recommend in the $100 range? I wear glasses for reading, +2.00 reading glasses. P.S. I also loved your road trip in the electric Kia. Thank you, - Mark
Hi Mark, there aren't any goggles in that price range that will work with people wearing glasses. The only one I was able to use with glasses is the Skyzone Cobra X but they are always sold out everywhere and the cost has jumped about 50% in the last 3 months. FPV components are rising fast right now. You can check out my Cobra X video here... ua-cam.com/video/_cuOOjwhLf0/v-deo.html
RE; Battery Min Threshold.... It's OpenTX so surely you should be able to accessRadio Setup then 3rd line down should read 'Battery Meter Range 6.0 - 8.0' If so, then lower the lesser figure so that radio DOESN'T shut down @ 3.3volts should be an easy enough cure??? Managed to (slightly) increase the run-time of my X9D+SE in a similar the same way... ;)
Yes, I know about that. I also tried that, however, the way the internal regulator is designed, the radio powers down when the voltage drops below 3.3v. It's not an openTX settings problem...
Hi Albert, I Ordert one already. Actualy I got a FS-I6 and whoop with the crazybee f4 es Version, im Planing to buy a new copter in some Month, what did you Think is the best receiver what I can us with this Multiprotocol Modul? I buyed the 4in1 Version Greets from germany
This one is not for me. I’ve got 5 radios but all i ever pick up is Tango 2. Everything else just feels awkward in my hands. I just swap modules if i want to use something other than crossfire.
Sure, you have to switch the goggles into legacy (V1) mode to work with all the drones that have the Vista or Air Unit. You'll also need to add a receiver to the drone. There are dozens of protocols that will work with the T-Lite so you have many options. I use Crossfire with my DJI drones.
People love the $75 price. Compared to what you get with the T12 Pro, this is a good value. I just need to figure out how the power issues play out with a proper battery before I decide to switch from the Tango 2 or not.
I want to connect my full size crossfire module but with out all the adapters. I have the spektrum serial connector to solder the jumper harness to but I don't know which wires are which. I'm gonna power it externally so I'm only worried about the data wires. Could you tell me what each wire coming out of the jumper is? Thanks!
Thank you - more info here than anywhere else! Hope you can help with a question: any idea how to set up the 'gyro calibration' on Eachine/Volantex planes? I can bind using the V761 protocol, but find that they are wildly out when in manual mode - pulling heavily to the left/right - like they missed the original calibration step? It should be on channel 6, but not sure how to set up in OpenTx. Grateful if you've any ideas....
In manual mode the gyro isn't used so if the plane is veering off in a certain direction it means you need to manually trim the control surfaces and adjust the control rods.
Hey Albert I am a newbie I just got my brain review jumper T like yesterday I don't know how to set it up at all my main thing was just a couple of drones anyways I've got my mjx bugs 3 setup on it finally but now some of my channels seems like they're in Reverse my fly left and right are reversed how do I get them back to the right setting and my I think that's the only thing that's wrong other than one more question I've got a Emax Hawk the black one the little one that looks like the tiny Hawk I bought it off eBay and I just recently found out that the guy has had it on Spectrum how do I use the multi protocol on the jumper tealight and how do I bind
Thx Al, how about a video on running sensor outputs on the main screen (eg: R168 RxBatt). I see there is a “Display” set up screen in the T-lite that theoretically supports this (and RSSI etc.), But I can’t get it to work. Cheers!
The problem is that the BEC in the module bay is integrated with the pins. I think the problem could also be the BEC on the mainboard before power gets to the step up.
Okay Albert how hard is it to bind to the Emax Buzz drone it seems like my steaks are messed up I have no less than right in my front and rear are reversed okay number 2 I have a iflight xl5 which TBS Crossfire TX and RX could I take the receiver off of it and put on a radio link for a FlySky receiver
Hi. I'm not quite understanding your question. Are "stakes" referring to sticks? What are reversed? Motors? Props? Which receiver version of the Buzz do you have? Sorry, I need more information to help here.
That problem sounds like a channel mapping mismatch issue. I know many pilots who use the T8SG v1 with those quads and others without any problem. You probably will need to make some settings changes in your radio to correct that problem.
Thanks for the reply, I will give it a go. after watching other videos I am wondering if it is turtle mode, is that possible? I have never seen what the Beta flight engine screen for turtle mode looks like. On mine 1 engine goes to full power while other just humming, keep up posted
Hey Albert, once again thanks for the videos. I just received my jumper t lite. I got a 3000mah flat top battery. Is it ok to charge the battery completely in the jumper? I lost my 18650 chargers so the only way I have to charge this battery is the transmitter. Just wondering if that’s ok since it will be my first time charging this battery. Thanks a bunch if you’re able to reply!
Yes, it is safe to charge in the Jumper as long as the cell is a good quality one. I heard some people used cheap fakes and the cells exploded. So be sure to use a high quality cell.
Hey there Albert, I really appreciate this review. I am using the frsky x9 lite because I like the smaller form factor, but recently the power button broke and I need to try to repair it. Recent frsky antics make me concerned though. As someone who has all xm+ and rxsr receivers and analog, I am trying to decide whether to stick with the X9 lite (tons of brand new used for sale out there) and my xjt/mpm module, spend the extra cash on a tango 2 (but I'd need the mpm module too), or get the tlite... Maybe I need to wait for a pro version of this. Hmm🤔
Can't recommend the T-Lite yet until I can do proper testing with the good 18650. Still waiting for that to ship to me. I would wait and see. If I can find the T-Lite to be useable with the Crossfire Nano TX to 1W on the good battery, I'll be switching away from the Tango2. But jury is still out. Stay tuned.
Hi Albert. What max. output power can be set in the menu? They walk about 25mW at Banggood. But it is not clear if this is the max. setting. Looking forward to your feedback :o) Thanks for this great review!
The 25mW you've been hearing about refers to the external module setting but I haven't done conclusive testing on that yet without a proper battery. The internal multi-module power is fixed at 100mW and can not be changed.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for your quick response. I use the Jumper T8 plus v2. Supports up to 150mW. So I will keep the T8plus v2. Don't want to make a step back in case of output power. External Moduls are also easier to install on the T8plus. Thanks for your great reviews. One of ma favorite channels👍🏻
No that won't help, since the voltage regulator is the bottleneck. Putting lithium cells in parallel is also something that should be discouraged. The cells need to be resistance matched and monitored by a BMS and it's best if there is a fuse in between the cells. It's a pain in the ass
Great review 👍, waiting on mine to be delivered, just wondering if lua script functions will work, I have the sd card contents downloaded, I'm new to opentx
It's in the model settings first page half way down. Select all the switches and set them to the position you want as default and press and hold enter.
I just setting and trial my jumper T-Lite dan TBS Nano...I set power in 250mW, after fly trial...the drone fly distance just 15-20 mtr and drop...Any suggestion, what is the problem?
Try it with a higher quality 18650. I'm still investigating this but it seems there is a problem with the power system. I talked about this in the video. I guess you missed that part.
I'm not sure about now since I haven't investigated this but back when I had the plane I could not get it to bind. But many more protocols have been added in the more than one year that has passed.
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I need a proper battery to test what the power limitations really are.
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Can this be used with a parrot drone?
Hi!
I didn't catch how I can change the default switch position, could you help me out?
I was originally mad at the fact the announced no limitations with crsf when they announced pre orders.
But!!!
Having spoken to jumper directly, and that they have admitted to making an error during testing using suspect batteries, as long as you have a high current(15A+) 18650 it will be fine down to 3.4v when the low battery alert will signal. The Sony U18650VTC6 for example can keep output in over 10A at 3.4v
They said they want to keep their current statement as they can't account everyone will use a high current quality battery, so taking the cautious approach. Hopefully the power supply will be corrected in the next version.
Latest testing has had crossfire at 1W over 5km with no telemetry issues.
There is also the choice of external power for crsf so if you are going long range or want more battery the option is there.
Its an excellent bang for the buck radio and isn't far off beating the top radios in my opinion.
Thanks for the nice summary. The battery issue will be tested as soon as I get my molicel 45A battery. I also plan to test with the full sized crossfire too. Stay tuned...
@@AlbertKimTV Excited to see it! Bell is always on! My t-lite is on the way. Just trying to decide between crossfire and ghost
I'm new to this hobby and a littel bit confused for selecting the radio. Should i get this jumper t-lite or jumper t12 pro.???
Excellent overview of the radio. Looks like an excellent value. I personally like the larger radio's like the Radiomaster. But I definitely can see the reasons why people like gamepad style. My nephew is getting into flying, if he sticks with it this may be a good upgrade for him.
Fantastic review and great job catching on to some of those details the other reviews missed. That's why your channel is the best on UA-cam!
I appreciate that!
I was waiting for your review but I couldn't wait anymore and had to buy it. I am fairly optimistic about it. Hopefully your review doesn't make me regret my purchase. I honestly feel like your reviews are the most thorough on youtube.
Thanks. I think it's overall a good value. It just may not be the best for external module pilots if the power problems are more than just due to poor batteries. I will find out soon and make another video about that.
Even if Albert's next review puts the nail in the coffin for crsf and makes jumpers claims BS, you can still use 1-2W crossfire with an external power supply, and ghost is fully operational as is.
Is it slightly irritating, yes, but worst case, you will have a cable with a battery in your pocket.
@@GregQuillen I'm not sure i understand what you want to use.
I wouldn't try plugging directly into a mains power brick or anything like that. But any 5V powerbank plugged into the nano should work fine. Up to 2W. There good for up to 2A generally so thats and crsf shouldn't take much more than that. If you do use a powerbank with higher current output then I wouldn't worry about it, the module will only take what current it needs. If you had a 5V 100A power bank it would work haha.
Main thing is just to make sure its got a good amount of mah juice
The issue is the odd spike which crsf is known for which is causing the radio issues with voltage sag.
@@GregQuillen will be absolutely fine. Anyone who said it won't be is mad haha.
Voltage is the important number. Just remember lower the voltage, the more current it will need. So if your using a 5V 3A supply, you should be golden.
Generally crsf on 100mW will use around 2W which is around 0.4A. Plenty room for higher powers.
I was waiting for your review to make my final decision. I have been checking your channel every day for this. thanks for the hard work. I guess I will get it for now. When tango 2 is back in stock, I will get that for crossfire. That will cover a lot of protocol for the price.
They probably figured out that they needed to add damping grease to the gimbal tension slides. I used Nyogel 767a on my Jumper T12 once and it was silent ever since.
Yeah, I've known about this for some time. I'm just too busy to open up my T12 since I don't use it as my daily driver anymore.
Thanks for the heads up I immediately ordered Sony VTC6 batteries for mine with R9M lite EU version.
The only drawback for me is the 25mw for crossfire. Thanks for the info! Now this become so much more viable to me. Do share your finding with the better battery with nano tx at maybe 1w
The main contender for me with this is the radiomaster tx12. I don’t really mind the form factor but more of the build quality but slight leaning toward the t lite for the nano module (cause I’m using tango 2 as well) but toward radiomaster for its built quality. Which one would you go for?
I tried to find information about the 3D mount for the Hawkeye monitor in your description, but couldn't find anything. Can you tell me where I can order one? Or get the .stp file so I can send it to someone to make for me? Also, does it come with screws for the mount?
I was waiting for this review as I knew it would be better than the others. Why do they even bother sending these products to those other guys for half-baked reviews? Seriously, what is wrong with them?
Thanks buddy... appreciate the support.
I tried 250mW constant output today with a Panasonic cell today. No issues at least in the indoor test. One bad thing I notice is that the flimsy construction almost falls apart when I change the battery because the battery holder is quite tight. And the stick centering needs extra care because of some slop or you risk the big inputs.
Keep the comments coming... new video already up today! 😁
Hi Albert, great video as always, you said you would explain how to change the default switch positions, but I can’t seem to find it in the video anywhere? I’ve searched the net but can’t find anything specific to the T-Lite, any chance you could explain how to do this.
Cheers Zoobs
Finally i have found the radio i want to buy just beacuse it has hall effects and all in one radio
I think tango 2 is way overpriced
@@ecenarro all TBS products are overpriced
Tx16s? Color touch screen. But it is massive
Thank you for your time & effort put on this review!
Might very well be the best review I've seen about this radio. Definitely the first I've seen mentioning there's a step-up in the external bay adapter (that finally explains something I was wondering), and showing the OpenTX build including CrossFire en Ghost support!
Thank you! 🙏
The devil is in the details. That's why the title of the video is what it is...
I did a pre-order, but am still waiting.
So it won't impact my decision anyway 🙈
But I've always wondered how the external modules would be powered from just 1S and how the support would be for the CrossFire protocol.
So I'm very grateful 🙏
I pre-ordered as a backup to my tango 2 because I already had a nano module playing around. I wasnt aware at launch of the 25mw issue. Bummer.
I guess I'll just use it for whoops, and let my little brother use it for sims
I was told they tested it again with a better quality battery (Sony VTC6) and were able to fly on 1W of power out to 5km down to 3.4v. So, much better if that is true. I need to get the battery to test that claim however. In any case, be sure to use a good battery regardless.
@@AlbertKimTV yeah! I'll definitely be testing it once I get mine in. Though definitely through concret buildings. I'm not trying to hike several kilometers to retrieve a quad.
Ooh trim switches. I think most fixed wing pilots would rather use a big radio with a screen like the tx16s but if you want to build a fun wing it’s awesome that you could fly it with this radio. WINGS ROCK!
Yep, trim switches for those fixed wing pilots are always a good thing. I like how these buttons feel too. Good feedback and they feel solid. I still can't believe they sell this for so little. Yet people still complain this is too expensive? Shhheesh...
@@AlbertKimTV I would never think of this as expensive. I bought my tx16s for $140 and I felt like I committed a crime getting that radio for the price it is
The latest batch of these Jumper T-Lite radios have defective debounce capacitors on the buttons. There's pics around the internet of how to fix them, but it does fix the problem. Mine was defective out of the box and Jumper told me to take it apart and remove the debounce caps.
Oh Jesus, I hope they get their quality problems solved. I want to buy something that works for a long time
Hi Albert, Thank you for your thorough review. You mention that it can be changed to mode 1. How easy is this modification?
It shouldn't be that difficult. Search UA-cam for Mode 1 Jumper T12 and the process will be the same.
@@AlbertKimTV You're the man! Thank you!
looking forward to seeing your tests on using full-power crossfire! thank you for sharing!!
I just setting and trial my jumper T-Lite dan TBS Nano...I set power in 250mW, after fly trial...the drone fly distance just 15-20 mtr and drop...Any suggestion, what is the problem?
Maybe the smaller modules will work OK as I think they use less voltage. I'm thinking I'll be putting the ghost lite on mine whenever that comes out. 🤔 As always Albert you bring out issues no one else noticed lol 👍👍
Make sure you get the Sony VTC6 battery for best performance.
Albert has more experience and knowledge with RC stuff than a lot of those other guys who are just in it for the affiliate cash. It's kinda sad the community supports this channel so poorly. He does so much for us, but he doesn't get the respect he deserves.
Super informative video! Can’t believe they didn’t send you a free sample. Also, someone should do a video on 18650s. I didn’t see anything good.
For good vids on 18650s look to vapers. Basically they’re shorting the battery in controlled situations. They’re always on to who is making the best high drain constant current batts.
i would like a pro version to have the two inner switches be buttons and the outer can be 3pos
My Tango 2 with MPM installed internally is only 40 grams heavier than the T-lite and it runs Crossfire and actually has a decent battery. Much better option IMHO. But I love the gimbals and the crown jewel stick ends.
You pay about 3 times as much for the Tango 2 - not sure if I would compare it. I personally prefer the T-Lite simply because I don't use CRSF at all and mainly fly whoops/micros - so I don't need an external module at all. If you fly CRSF - then yes, obviously the Tango 2 is the better choice.
I still have to properly investigate if a good battery is what will make this radio the one I will want to switch to or not. If it turns out people are just using poor quality batteries then that can partially explain some stuff. Right now, I have to wait for my batteries to arrive.
@@stylesuxx Twice the price for radio without modules but that’s comparing apples to oranges and I wouldn't compare at all either. Others are comparing with Tango 2 in terms of weight. Wouldn't give up CRSF and larger battery. Tango 2 plus IRange would be about $200. T-lite plus Crossfire module would be just under $160.
@@pksteffen Ah, I had in mind the Tango 2 was around 200$... I just have the feeling that lots of people expect the Jumper T-Lite to be more than it actually is.
@@AlbertKimTV I can only recommend Panasonic NCR18650 cells - but make sure to buy them from a legit vendor - lots of fakes going around of the 18650 cells. You can also check your closest vape shop - they should have plenty high capacity, high discharge (maybe not super high) 18650 cells in stock.
Thanks for the great review Albert, I've been waiting for a good lite radio this at this size and price point. It would make a nice second radio for quick portability. If a pro version for under $120 is made, that would much better.
Is it just me or did AK leave the clear plastic wrap over the screen on the Jumper T lite? I thought I saw it last video and I know I saw it this video.
What type of memory card does it take and where can I get one from? Love the video. Great information
Any class 10 card 1GB to 8GB is more than enough.
@@AlbertKimTV thank you for your help.
You can just use an external powerbank for your external module. Might be a deal breaker for some ppl but if I can get 250 out of my crossfire rather than 25mh ......I'd say its totally worth throwing an extra powerbank in the go bag
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It has hall sensor gimbals too comparing to Lite Radio 2.
There's a lot of upgrades on the T-Lite compared to the LiteRadio 2.
Can you do a quick review or write an evaluation of the Foxeer Antenna Lollipop used on the Hawkeye? Why did you switch from the stock antenna?
The Lollipop3 antenna is overall good but I have gotten a few duds. Maybe out of 35 antennas, 2 have been no good. I mainly used this antenna here because the stubby version saves space over the stock antenna and CP antennas are generally better than linear ones.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for the input, I will consider doing the same then on the transmitter as well.
Awesome review! Shouldnt an external lipo for crossfire solve the issue? I Always use external 3s lipo when i use crossfire on my nirvana or x9d. Also was it hard to mount the fullsize crossfire? Iam in the same boat having Only the fullsize crossfire. Would be great if i didnt need to buy Another module..
Where can I buy the Ghost nano module?
@@AlbertKimTV Think you accidentally replied to wrong comment. But Tbh, i've scoured youtube after the Ghost Nano and i've never seen it, nly render images of it. I don't think it exists yet.
The best 18650 batts go to us vapers... Vtc6, 25r, vtc5, lg, pretty much all vape batts work great in these types of controllers... Just plz dont go on a buying frenzy and flood the market as all the vape batts are cloned alot with subpar cells
Man i love your reviews to the point and very informative
I appreciate that!
Silly question... Would it work properly if I use a button 18650 battery? I see batteries used are flat on both sides.
Not sure, have not tried those.
Nice informative video and i cant wait till you get the external modules on as id like to add one to mine......👍👍
hope they make a pro version with two 18650 for the big modules
I think that is their plan all along...
Good afternoon, do you think this radio will give compatibility issues with frsky recent receivers? I know from personal experience that the BETAFPV Literadio 2 se is a no go....
Do you think a battery mod can be done, if so would you consider making a video doing this, mine has just arrived today, paid extra as I needed it for all my Radiolink recievers
I think something might be able to be done but not sure how easy it will be. I think it will be complicated because the charging circuit is right in the middle of all this.
Cheers for the review, look forward to part 2, a lot of radio for the price.
Hi Albert, are you gonna review the Ghost lite with this RC?
Probably not unless someone sends one to me.
I'm very interested in the lite versions of transmitters that have been coming out. I really enjoy my frsky qx7, however two things that really annoy me. Updating and accst going to access. But now that I got crossfire I'm pretty happy with my remote. One thing I'm happy you pointed out is the power draw and that's something that I think has been overlooked on other reviews.
whenever I connect the controller to the PC (win10) Controller starts to charge only , I don't even see any usb device in usb device manager , my pc is neglecting the remote controller so i am not able to use it in the flight simulator
You need to change the setting in OpenTX to ask you to set it for Joystick mode. It seems to be stuck in charging only mode or storage mode.
Do you have any specifics on the screw hardware used for the Hawkey Mount to the Jumper T Lite? What's on the website doesn't seem correct, I bought the M1.6 screws for example, and they're too skinny for the Jumper T Lite.
I used standard M2 screws. If they are saying M1.6, that's not correct.
Can't u just plug in a xt30 battery to the crossfire module or plug in a power brick to the remote would that power it?
If designing a way to directly mount, vs multiple adapters, might be worth adding in a 2S battery for just the Crossfire module.
I was considering a mod of having two 18650 batts in parallel on this T-lite. A wired external holder, some velcro. Same voltage but more oomph. See any problem?
so , when we gonna see a tango tracer?
Hey Albert, you mention you use an M3 screw for the tripod part of the mount, is that correct? I just got this mount and don't understand how that tiny hole is supposed to fit a 1/4 - 20 tripod bolt in there. Does the hawkeye littlepilot a smaller mounting hole than the standard 1/4 - 20 tripod mount? I'm really having trouble figuring out what hardware I need to either mount a tripod bracket style mount or my actual Hawkeye Littlepilot that comes in on Tuesday. Any help would be appreciated!
The screw hole on the bottom of the hawkeye monitor is M3 sized. The screw to attach the bracket to the T-Lite is M2 sized.
@@AlbertKimTV Thank you, I've seen photos of people attaching a phone clamp mount to this, and most phone mounts just use a tripod mount size. I was wondering how they got that attached. At least my Hawkeye will work simply. Thanks for your response as always!
From the size of the battery bay, it looks like a 21700 would fit in nicely, and give you higher capacity and output.
I've seen other people try but those wouldn't fit.
Great review. Do you think this TX will work good with an Frsky Archer RS receiver?
If that is an Access receiver it won't work.
Nice review! I also see an idea that the monitor mount could be a lanyard holder if your not using the monitor.
Yeah, that could be easily modified for that purpose.
How would you rate the feel and throw of the gimbals as compared to the X-lite?
I like the feel of these much better. These are the same as the ones on the T12 Pro. Compared to the X-Lite, the throw is more on these but the spring tension is much more loose. If you prefer stiff spring tension you probably won't like the stock feel. However, you can adjust the spring tension inside (I pointed to the screws in the video). You can't adjust the tension on the X-Lite.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for the info. I like the tension of the X-lite, but would like more throw. I think I'll keep my eye on Jumper and see if they release a "Pro" version of the T-Lite like you suggested. FYI - One of the pilots in my local FPV club figured out how to loosen the tension on the X-lite gimbals, but I'm not sure how.
Dear Albert,
Love your videos! I just ordered the Jumper T-Lite using your affiliate link.
What goggles do you recommend in the $100 range? I wear glasses for reading, +2.00 reading glasses.
P.S. I also loved your road trip in the electric Kia. Thank you, - Mark
Hi Mark, there aren't any goggles in that price range that will work with people wearing glasses. The only one I was able to use with glasses is the Skyzone Cobra X but they are always sold out everywhere and the cost has jumped about 50% in the last 3 months. FPV components are rising fast right now. You can check out my Cobra X video here... ua-cam.com/video/_cuOOjwhLf0/v-deo.html
can i ask what screws use for monitor mounting holes?
Standard M2 screws will work.
RE; Battery Min Threshold....
It's OpenTX so surely you should be able to accessRadio Setup then 3rd line down should read 'Battery Meter Range 6.0 - 8.0'
If so, then lower the lesser figure so that radio DOESN'T shut down @ 3.3volts should be an easy enough cure???
Managed to (slightly) increase the run-time of my X9D+SE in a similar the same way... ;)
Yes, I know about that. I also tried that, however, the way the internal regulator is designed, the radio powers down when the voltage drops below 3.3v. It's not an openTX settings problem...
i dont l like the painted black gimbels but i like the size. easy for flying my micro copters out of my other hand , like my s3 and cpx blade
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Hi Albert, I Ordert one already. Actualy I got a FS-I6 and whoop with the crazybee f4 es Version, im Planing to buy a new copter in some Month, what did you Think is the best receiver what I can us with this Multiprotocol Modul? I buyed the 4in1 Version
Greets from germany
Are you planning to review using the CrossFire nano?
Yes, I have one on order and will properly test it for you guys.
I just ordered jumper t lite from RDQ from link in description
Do u get a kick back ? If not how do you
Yes the links help support the channel, thanks.
This one is not for me. I’ve got 5 radios but all i ever pick up is Tango 2. Everything else just feels awkward in my hands. I just swap modules if i want to use something other than crossfire.
thanks man just bought one
Hope you enjoy it!
Is it possible to use Jumper T-Lite with DJI Goggles V2 and FPV drones which support DJI protocol?
Sure, you have to switch the goggles into legacy (V1) mode to work with all the drones that have the Vista or Air Unit. You'll also need to add a receiver to the drone. There are dozens of protocols that will work with the T-Lite so you have many options. I use Crossfire with my DJI drones.
Is this tx compatible with the Blade helis? And will it talk to my existing models using a flysky 8ch rx? Thanks
These open tx 4in1 radios should work flawlessly with a FlySky rx
Hey Albert, ghost doesn’t need any extra power it will work just fine for 350mw I think.
Where can I buy a Ghost nano module?
@@AlbertKimTV full size one works fine, but Nano isn’t out yet. Tony advised they are in the factory being programmed as we speak
Why is everyone saying "nice" when they haven't even been able to watch the whole video. lol
@@ivannicolas1246 nice
Yeah true...
People love the $75 price. Compared to what you get with the T12 Pro, this is a good value. I just need to figure out how the power issues play out with a proper battery before I decide to switch from the Tango 2 or not.
@@AlbertKimTV Yeah, I think that an external battery for the Crossfire module would have a way to big considering the from factor of the Controller.
@@AlbertKimTV Love my Tango 2 v3 with TBS multi-mode module. My older large radio is retired.
What stick ends do you have on that T12?? I'd love pick up a pair for my qxs7
Link in description
This is my first radio Should I get the CC2500 version or the 4in1 version?
The 4in1 version will give you more options in the future.
I have question i ordered it, can i use it for plane?
I want to connect my full size crossfire module but with out all the adapters. I have the spektrum serial connector to solder the jumper harness to but I don't know which wires are which. I'm gonna power it externally so I'm only worried about the data wires. Could you tell me what each wire coming out of the jumper is? Thanks!
I showed how to wire it in a diagram at about 15 minutes into the video. I guess you missed it.
@@AlbertKimTV oops. Sorry!
Thank you - more info here than anywhere else! Hope you can help with a question: any idea how to set up the 'gyro calibration' on Eachine/Volantex planes? I can bind using the V761 protocol, but find that they are wildly out when in manual mode - pulling heavily to the left/right - like they missed the original calibration step? It should be on channel 6, but not sure how to set up in OpenTx. Grateful if you've any ideas....
In manual mode the gyro isn't used so if the plane is veering off in a certain direction it means you need to manually trim the control surfaces and adjust the control rods.
@@AlbertKimTV thank you 👍
Hey Albert I am a newbie I just got my brain review jumper T like yesterday I don't know how to set it up at all my main thing was just a couple of drones anyways I've got my mjx bugs 3 setup on it finally but now some of my channels seems like they're in Reverse my fly left and right are reversed how do I get them back to the right setting and my I think that's the only thing that's wrong other than one more question I've got a Emax Hawk the black one the little one that looks like the tiny Hawk I bought it off eBay and I just recently found out that the guy has had it on Spectrum how do I use the multi protocol on the jumper tealight and how do I bind
I recommend reading up on how OpenTX works which is what this radio runs on. www.open-tx.org/
Thx Al, how about a video on running sensor outputs on the main screen (eg: R168 RxBatt). I see there is a “Display” set up screen in the T-lite that theoretically supports this (and RSSI etc.), But I can’t get it to work. Cheers!
Great video!
I have a question: Can I use the Jumper T-lite with the Beta65s Tiny whoop?
I would be very grateful if you could answer.
thanks, Rcky
Not sure what protocol that one runs, but if you get the 4-in-1 version it should work in FrSky or Bayang protocol mode.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks😀
cant the Jumper T-Lite be hacked to connect the battery to a dc to dc step up voltage regulator to module bay? should be easy to do
The problem is that the BEC in the module bay is integrated with the pins. I think the problem could also be the BEC on the mainboard before power gets to the step up.
@@AlbertKimTV oh, I didn't know that
Okay Albert how hard is it to bind to the Emax Buzz drone it seems like my steaks are messed up I have no less than right in my front and rear are reversed okay number 2 I have a iflight xl5 which TBS Crossfire TX and RX could I take the receiver off of it and put on a radio link for a FlySky receiver
Hi. I'm not quite understanding your question. Are "stakes" referring to sticks? What are reversed? Motors? Props? Which receiver version of the Buzz do you have? Sorry, I need more information to help here.
Does work well with mobula 7 and mobilite t7 ? I have t8sg v1 refuses to work properly, always sends motor 3 into full power and quad flips
That problem sounds like a channel mapping mismatch issue. I know many pilots who use the T8SG v1 with those quads and others without any problem. You probably will need to make some settings changes in your radio to correct that problem.
Thanks for the reply, I will give it a go. after watching other videos I am wondering if it is turtle mode, is that possible? I have never seen what the Beta flight engine screen for turtle mode looks like. On mine 1 engine goes to full power while other just humming, keep up posted
Hey Albert, once again thanks for the videos. I just received my jumper t lite. I got a 3000mah flat top battery. Is it ok to charge the battery completely in the jumper? I lost my 18650 chargers so the only way I have to charge this battery is the transmitter. Just wondering if that’s ok since it will be my first time charging this battery. Thanks a bunch if you’re able to reply!
Yes, it is safe to charge in the Jumper as long as the cell is a good quality one. I heard some people used cheap fakes and the cells exploded. So be sure to use a high quality cell.
@@AlbertKimTV thanks, your responses add so much value to your channel. Thanks so much!
Hey there Albert, I really appreciate this review. I am using the frsky x9 lite because I like the smaller form factor, but recently the power button broke and I need to try to repair it. Recent frsky antics make me concerned though. As someone who has all xm+ and rxsr receivers and analog, I am trying to decide whether to stick with the X9 lite (tons of brand new used for sale out there) and my xjt/mpm module, spend the extra cash on a tango 2 (but I'd need the mpm module too), or get the tlite... Maybe I need to wait for a pro version of this. Hmm🤔
Can't recommend the T-Lite yet until I can do proper testing with the good 18650. Still waiting for that to ship to me. I would wait and see. If I can find the T-Lite to be useable with the Crossfire Nano TX to 1W on the good battery, I'll be switching away from the Tango2. But jury is still out. Stay tuned.
@@AlbertKimTV look forward to it! I actually fixed my multiprotocol issue on my x9 lite so it will get me by a while longer👍
Hey Albert. I can't figure out how to switch to mode 1. I moved the bar over but looks like I need to move a spring too? Any help?
Search for videos on how to do the mode 1 change on a T12. The process is the same.
Thanks! I figured it out with your advice! I appreciate you getting back to me. @aresfpv
Hi Albert. What max. output power can be set in the menu? They walk about 25mW at Banggood. But it is not clear if this is the max. setting. Looking forward to your feedback :o) Thanks for this great review!
The 25mW you've been hearing about refers to the external module setting but I haven't done conclusive testing on that yet without a proper battery. The internal multi-module power is fixed at 100mW and can not be changed.
@@AlbertKimTV Thanks for your quick response. I use the Jumper T8 plus v2. Supports up to 150mW. So I will keep the T8plus v2. Don't want to make a step back in case of output power. External Moduls are also easier to install on the T8plus. Thanks for your great reviews. One of ma favorite channels👍🏻
😊 thanks
i would pay 5 buckt more, to get bare plastic instead of that soft touch finish, that tends to turn into goop after 3-10 years
I'm not sure I would want to use this radio after two years. Something better and cheaper will be out in a year anyway.
What is the mx power output in mw without additional modules ?
Hey, do you know by any chance what FFC the small lcd uses? Want to purchase an extension
Sorry, I don't know
Jumper t lite or radio master t8?
It Is impossible to bind my xm+ with my jumper t lite. I have tried all protocols and is not.
If any of you did it, please tell me
Thx
Yes, I did solve this and you can see what I did in the video about 2/3 of the way into it.
@@AlbertKimTV thxxx
Will in nsync/ bind with iflight fpv quads pretty easy?
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Now will some one make a 3d print that allows you to add a parallel 18650 to handle the voltage sag?
You'll also need to modify the mainboard where the voltage regulator for the radio is.
@@AlbertKimTV not if it's parallel right? Same voltage twice the capacity, that will significantly reduce sag under load for CSFR
Now, it might mess with usb charging depending on how sofisticated is.
Any chance a 21700 or 20700 battery could be made to fit? People are talking about how loose the 18650 is.
No that won't help, since the voltage regulator is the bottleneck. Putting lithium cells in parallel is also something that should be discouraged. The cells need to be resistance matched and monitored by a BMS and it's best if there is a fuse in between the cells. It's a pain in the ass
I am after this style of radio for rc car racing, can the gimbals be adjusted to use just for throttle and steering.
Adjusted in what way?
@@AlbertKimTV so the sticks return to the center and forward/back motion only on left gimbal and left/right only on right gimbal
Could you make it beep like a vario based on telemetry altitude return values ?
If you can do that on another OpenTX radio, it should work on the T-Lite as well.
Great review 👍, waiting on mine to be delivered, just wondering if lua script functions will work, I have the sd card contents downloaded, I'm new to opentx
In general the LUA scripts should work. Was there something you needed to know specifically?
@@AlbertKimTV no I'm just trying to figure it all out before the T-lite gets here, thanks
Awesome review! Way better than others I watched, thanks
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review, thanks! Is the Hawkeye monitor the 2.5 or the 3.5‘‘ version?
The one attached is the 2.5 inch. The other one I showed is the 3.5 inch.
how bind with flysky 2a
Did you ever explain how to solve switch warning for reversed aux??
It's in the model settings first page half way down. Select all the switches and set them to the position you want as default and press and hold enter.
@@AlbertKimTV great! Never expected that quick of an answer! Thanks 🙏
Albert could you let me know the gimbal stick length without the stick end on. Thanks 👍
20mm
@@AlbertKimTV thanks 👍, I'm 3d printing some tpu stick end😊
I'm confused on how you time-edited this video. Good video!
I just setting and trial my jumper T-Lite dan TBS Nano...I set power in 250mW, after fly trial...the drone fly distance just 15-20 mtr and drop...Any suggestion, what is the problem?
Try it with a higher quality 18650. I'm still investigating this but it seems there is a problem with the power system. I talked about this in the video. I guess you missed that part.
Can this pair with volantex 750mm p51?
I'm not sure about now since I haven't investigated this but back when I had the plane I could not get it to bind. But many more protocols have been added in the more than one year that has passed.
Battery bay looks big, maybe 21700 lion possible
It doesn't fit unfortunately.
thoughts about this controller for racing tinywhoops?
For me, this would be perfect for that.