I like it! I'd like to see you two race to settle the score between air vs. coil. Do you recommend the Marzocchi coil fork or the Push ACS3 paired with the Marzocchi coil shock on a Process 153?
I know im a little late here, but im a coil suspension guy thru and thru. So, my question is if im planning on going coil and going with a fox 38 , should I just get the low end, or is the factory still worth having even converted coil. Thanks
Thanks for the video! I recently did the coil conversion on my 2020 Fox Factory 36 160mm (Vorsprung Smashpot). Yes, there is some more weight, but you forget about it after one ride. Maybe I'm lucky or just set it up right, but I don't notice any additional noise on normal riding. There is a little "spring crunch" when going deep in the travel, but it doesn't bother me. I don't worry about lower leg air buildup on the spring side. It's nice not to have to worry about adjusting the pressure, one less item to consider. If considering, I recommend going for a firmer spring to keep you high in the travel and avoid wallowing. May seem counter-intuitive to go firmer for more plushness, but its nice to stay higher in the travel (I went from 50lb spring to 55lb spring, I weigh 195lb at 6'1"). Use more low-speed compression for support to keep that nose up when braking and hitting corners. Don't over-preload!
I put a 140mm Z1 on my Tallboy. Had a 140mm Fox 34 before. Made huge difference in stability in fast, rough situations. Way stiffer. Completely changed the bike,
Good stuff! Can you guys go over how much air loss is normal from a tubeless tire setup? For example after 3 to 4 days of not riding what is the normal and expected PSI loss?
My thoughts on converting a fork to coil is - as long as you’re not a weight weenie and you like the downhills it’s seems like a no brainer to me. The fork is more sensitive and plush and that is just what I personally want
If I could only choose one, where would I see the biggest bang for the buck performance upgrade on my 2021 Yari - Debonair, Motion Control, 180mm travel (Yari RC B3) between: 1. Vorsprung Smashpot Or 2. RC Charger 2.1 RC2 Damper?
I think the 2.1 RC2 damper since it comes with adjustability that you don't get with the motion control. Give us a shout if you wan't to break down the differences further. sales@thelostco.com // (360) 306-8827
Wow so my DDRY Fox 36 27.5 160 can go to 180? great!!! I have fit 4 on a Canondale Moterra LT1 2018, and I want to make it as good as my old Marz 888, So I am thinking smash pot, but which is better Fractive Valve or Grip2?
what would happen if the installer who rebuilt your fox 36, used the 20wt gold on your foam ring and shot in the PTFE into the lower. I custom built a bike and they changed my CSU so i could get a orange lowers on my 27.5, as they said 37mm 27.5 doesn't come with orange lowers. i am assuming they know about PTFE but was curious if they didnt, how would i know? and what would the symptoms be?
I don't think it matters very much because in his own tutorial on servicing a 36 he uses the 20wt for the foam rings on both sides and he said that it does not matter. I have also been doing this and I have not seen any problems with my fork.
Hey Mike, I have a question for you, First love your content make's even the most difficult shit easy to understand much appreciated. I am currently on a 2018 Trek ex 8 27.5 plus that I converted to a 29er I am in the market for a new fork Do i go with a Fox 34 factory or can I run the Fox 36 ? thoughts My riding style is moto background so i like to jump and really push and pump through my turns. Also riidng the north east. Thanks
68 dergee head angle with 100mm travel on a long hardtail, vs 69.5 degrees with 120mm on a not so long hardtail? which is better for riding rock gardens? these are the only 2 options and cant choose another bike. please help
Would a coil conversion on a fox 38 elite be helpful for a *heavy* rider? 350lbs on a Levo with a float x in back. No complaints, but I would like to hear what the advantage would be.
Hi HWT! For heavy riders we recommend sticking with the stock air spring in the Fox 38. Luftkappe is the only company making coil conversions for the Fox 38 right now and they don't make a stiff enough coil for your weight, but the air spring has you covered! -Tor
if i wanted more power from my guide brakes would i 1 buy a new caliper like the g2 or code 2 buy the lever for one of those or would i have to buy a whole new brakeset
Which Guide brakes do you have? And what brake pads do you have? If you have Guide R's, switch the levers to at least Guide RS and make sure you have metallic pads. The RS lever has some upgraded internals which increase power. I would personally always recommend jumping up to the RSC lever as you'll have a bunch more adjustability too!
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I like it! I'd like to see you two race to settle the score between air vs. coil. Do you recommend the Marzocchi coil fork or the Push ACS3 paired with the Marzocchi coil shock on a Process 153?
I know im a little late here, but im a coil suspension guy thru and thru. So, my question is if im planning on going coil and going with a fox 38 , should I just get the low end, or is the factory still worth having even converted coil. Thanks
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Thanks for the video! I recently did the coil conversion on my 2020 Fox Factory 36 160mm (Vorsprung Smashpot). Yes, there is some more weight, but you forget about it after one ride. Maybe I'm lucky or just set it up right, but I don't notice any additional noise on normal riding. There is a little "spring crunch" when going deep in the travel, but it doesn't bother me.
I don't worry about lower leg air buildup on the spring side. It's nice not to have to worry about adjusting the pressure, one less item to consider. If considering, I recommend going for a firmer spring to keep you high in the travel and avoid wallowing. May seem counter-intuitive to go firmer for more plushness, but its nice to stay higher in the travel (I went from 50lb spring to 55lb spring, I weigh 195lb at 6'1"). Use more low-speed compression for support to keep that nose up when braking and hitting corners. Don't over-preload!
Every time I watch a video from the lost co I learn something.
Got about 10 rides on the Smashpot in a Fox Factory 36 - it is so good, really really good. Increase in traction up front is unreal.
Great answers! Decent questions. I look forward to more of these.
I put a 140mm Z1 on my Tallboy. Had a 140mm Fox 34 before. Made huge difference in stability in fast, rough situations. Way stiffer. Completely changed the bike,
Love my ACS-03 coil in the Fox36 GRIP2.
My Vorsprung Smashpot is completely silent other than a soft squishing noise on really hard hits.
Did the ACS3 on my lyric and love it. Not as linear as people said. Small bump is amazing and still playful
Great info guys! Keep up the good work.
Loving my hc97 push with low friction dust wiper!
Good stuff! Can you guys go over how much air loss is normal from a tubeless tire setup? For example after 3 to 4 days of not riding what is the normal and expected PSI loss?
Excellent content guys!
My thoughts on converting a fork to coil is - as long as you’re not a weight weenie and you like the downhills it’s seems like a no brainer to me. The fork is more sensitive and plush and that is just what I personally want
Great video..great series🤙🤙
Which would you say performs better, a Z1 Coil or a Rockshox Yari with a Charger damper using a PUSH ASC3 coil conversion kit?
Pls continue. You could rival gmbn tech
Should I get a bomber coil and a grip2 damper or a push kit for my lyrik and a rct3 damper??
Love your videos
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If I could only choose one, where would I see the biggest bang for the buck performance upgrade on my 2021 Yari - Debonair, Motion Control, 180mm travel (Yari RC B3) between:
1. Vorsprung Smashpot
Or
2. RC Charger 2.1 RC2 Damper?
I think the 2.1 RC2 damper since it comes with adjustability that you don't get with the motion control. Give us a shout if you wan't to break down the differences further.
sales@thelostco.com // (360) 306-8827
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Any experience with the DSD Runt? Could you test one out? Get them in the shop? Would love a local test.
Sticks, Spokes & Ropes I second this! That would be supa rad 👌🏻
Wow so my DDRY Fox 36 27.5 160 can go to 180? great!!! I have fit 4 on a Canondale Moterra LT1 2018, and I want to make it as good as my old Marz 888, So I am thinking smash pot, but which is better Fractive Valve or Grip2?
what would happen if the installer who rebuilt your fox 36, used the 20wt gold on your foam ring and shot in the PTFE into the lower. I custom built a bike and they changed my CSU so i could get a orange lowers on my 27.5, as they said 37mm 27.5 doesn't come with orange lowers. i am assuming they know about PTFE but was curious if they didnt, how would i know? and what would the symptoms be?
I don't think it matters very much because in his own tutorial on servicing a 36 he uses the 20wt for the foam rings on both sides and he said that it does not matter. I have also been doing this and I have not seen any problems with my fork.
Any difference in Midstroke support or has air caught up?
when converting your rockshox yari RC into a more or less travel, what will be the process?
Should I grease my through axle? With what grease?
Hey Mike,
I have a question for you, First love your content make's even the most difficult shit easy to understand much appreciated. I am currently on a 2018 Trek ex 8 27.5 plus that I converted to a 29er I am in the market for a new fork Do i go with a Fox 34 factory or can I run the Fox 36 ? thoughts My riding style is moto background so i like to jump and really push and pump through my turns. Also riidng the north east.
Thanks
68 dergee head angle with 100mm travel on a long hardtail, vs 69.5 degrees with 120mm on a not so long hardtail? which is better for riding rock gardens? these are the only 2 options and cant choose another bike. please help
#faq would a 2015 rockshox xc32 tk accept new rockshox oil
Is it possible to upgrade the FOX 36 Rythm to a Grip2 damper? Also I like the idea with the FAQ a lot.
As far as I remember you can do it. It will just have heavier lowers than the "real thing".
Yes you can. If you have a Fox 36 Rhythm you can also use the Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Coil Conversion Kit 🤘
Would you have any tips for a van
Hey guys I have a 29er pike rc 140 mm and I want to extend it to 150, it’s posible? How much it cost? How I can do this?
Would a coil conversion on a fox 38 elite be helpful for a *heavy* rider?
350lbs on a Levo with a float x in back. No complaints, but I would like to hear what the advantage would be.
Hi HWT! For heavy riders we recommend sticking with the stock air spring in the Fox 38. Luftkappe is the only company making coil conversions for the Fox 38 right now and they don't make a stiff enough coil for your weight, but the air spring has you covered! -Tor
@@TheLostCo Much appreciated!
if i wanted more power from my guide brakes would i 1 buy a new caliper like the g2 or code 2 buy the lever for one of those or would i have to buy a whole new brakeset
Which Guide brakes do you have? And what brake pads do you have? If you have Guide R's, switch the levers to at least Guide RS and make sure you have metallic pads. The RS lever has some upgraded internals which increase power. I would personally always recommend jumping up to the RSC lever as you'll have a bunch more adjustability too!
If you have a stock Bomber Z1 coil can you convert it to air with a Z1 air spring?
Nope
Drink every time he says yea
Can you convert a z1 coil to air?
No you cannot
@@TheLostCo Thank you for answering my question. Keep shreding!
Can u use the z2 conversion in a fox 36?
Nevermind
Yes NOW you can!
Yee Haw?
Not sure who set your Smash pot up but if installed correctly using the heatwrap i get no sounds/noise from my Factory 38 conversion.
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