Jagdtiger "331" Hauled Across Ft. Benning to New NACC Tank Facility
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This 70+ ton tank destroyer was knocked out in 1945 by the 10th Armored Division and has been in US Army historic collection ever since. Today it gets moved to a new climate controlled facility and will be preserved at the Training Support Facility in NACC care.
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Considering only about 80 of these were ever produced this is a rare gem.
I’m sure I speak for most enthusiasts when I say these machines need to be ‘FULLY’ restored-that means not just restoring it to the point where once a year it gets driven around a little dirt track for a few hours and then mothballed.
Everyone wants to see this beast fire it’s main gun - even if they’re blanks, as even the WW2 footage hardly reveals any of these firing.
Everyone is disappointed at watching vehicles only being restored to simply drive around in a circle: The U.S army could easily oversee the management of restoration of the gun.
Give up thumbs up if you want to see these AFV’s fully restored and not just driven around in a boring circle.
I would love to see this beast driving around myself. However considering how unreliable the engine and transmission were, it's probably best to not run it at all. Why dump tons of money into it only to have the engine take a shit and not be repairable. Then what? Tiger 131 is driven but not very often for such reasons. They risk losing the engine and transmission every time they drive it. No matter how well it's maintained.
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@@Just-an-ordinary-average-guy
Indeed, I don't know why people waste so much time and money stuck in the past .Its not a gem its a POJ .
There are only three in existience today ! This and the one in Kubinkna(Russia) are late product versions with the Henschel undercarrige ! The one in Bovington (England) has the early Porsche one!
The gun will burst under anything like the pressure a live fire would create 😑
Jagdtiger 331 was abandoned by it's crew along with Jagdtiger 323 in Neustadt, Germany in March of 1945 after both vehicles suffered damage to their final drives. The recoil cylinder was drained and a final round was fired to jam the 128 mm gun in full recoil and renderer it inoperable. It will be very good to see the 331 restored cosmetically and protected from the elements after 70+ years of sitting outside.
Thanks, love hearing the History....
Why only cosmetically? Not a full restore then ? Im sure there are enough ppl around the world who would donate to a full restoration.
Is that why the gun seems so short?
@@catlee8064 I would love to see a full restoration, but she came to the USA with significant final drive damage and then sat outside fully exposed to the elements at Aberdeen for the last 77 years, so the engine and transmission are likely beyond repair at this point.
@@balintsimon6641 Exactly right.
I saw all these outside at the Aberdeen proving grounds back in the 90s, what a crime, to leave them to rot on outside storage all those years. Every one deserves a full running restoration as history belongs to all of us!
I visited Aberdeen in the 1970s and yes it was a shame to see these beautiful and extremely rare machines sitting around rusting in the grass. But what an experience to be able to see and touch them! Seeing films of them doesn't convey just how massive they are.
Oh come on now...not trying to take away from the heavy hauler guys in the video. But 6 miles on pavement across Benning. That is nothing compared to the photo from 1945. Take a look at that picture from 1945 in the video....really look at it. That trailer Jagdtiger 331 is sitting on is rated for 35 tons. You're talking about a tank destroyer weighing near 80 tons. They had to drag that thing up onto that trailer. No crane to lift it and set ot down on the trailer. Driving across unimproved dirt roads, across bridges that were nowhere near rated for that weight. Rolling along in that Dragon Wagon with a war prize trying to get to the closest motorpool to hopefully transport it by train if there were even any railroads or engines left in 1945 Germany that would function to get to a port to ship it acoss the english Channel. So while props to the guys who moved it 6 miles across Benning. Don't play it like it was a near impossible task. Talk to the crew of that Dragon Wagon. 👍
I agree. Probably took half the guys and half the time too.
@Ryan Do you not know anything of 331? It was not in running condition. The final drive had been disconnected because of damage it had sustained. Thats how it was moved from where the crew drained the hydraulic fluid and fired the last round knocking its 128mm gun out of battery. So yes....."drag" it on to the trailer. Meaning using the winch across ramps which is rated for recovery of a sherman tank. Did you even notice the wooden beams on the M15 trailer? It's sitting on those because the Jagdtiger is much wider than what the trailer is desgned to transport. I have seen a Dragon Wagon up close and personal. I know exactly how they work. So the Dragon Wagon crew had far more of an epic journey transporting 331 on a twin axle trailer than the crew in this video using a truck with a 6 axle trailer actually rated for the weight.
This was great to watch. The Tiger tank has always been one of my favorite vehicles, along with the Panther and Pershing. As an engineer, I enjoyed watching the big toys do their thing. This was terrific. Thank you, Sofi.
The main role following the results of the Second World War was played by Russian ground combat vehicles T-34, BM-13, as well as Soviet soldiers! Eternal memory to the victors over fascism! 😇 (Americans, as usual, warmed their hands)
Thank you Sophie for All your coverage of the new NACC, it's vehicles, it's people & everything. You & your channel has been a blessing to this overall group of military history enthusiast, armor enthusiast, our Nations history & in fact many of the Worlds historical designs & achievements. Sincerely do appreciate all you have covered & hopefully will continue to way into the future. You are one Cool Chick!
I've seen Jagdtiger 331 several times while she was at APG and I built a model of this beast. I used to think she was immense, but she seems rather small next to the moving equipment, especially the M88.
Anyway, it's good to see her inside and out of the weather and ready for some love.
Would you like to see her fire on and in a controlled range to experience the power of that 12.8 cm gun rather than just driving it round in circles?
She is the same size as M88. And lets not forget that M88 is the beast on its own, one of the largest if not the largest recovery vehicles in the world. Also both vehicles weight 70 tons, its still more than modern tanks
when you consider the tanks of the era were mainly Sherman/T34/Cromwell etc.. it was a beast of its time. ideally tank-destroyers should be more low profile and smaller. so the Jagdpanther and Hetzer etc which were pretty successful vehicles whereas the JT was essentially a failure. they destroyed very few vehicles and were mostly abandoned after mechanical problems.
When I first saw the front, I knew it was the one from APG. Got to see it in 1981 there.
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So awesome! Glad to see the Jagdtiger in a climate controled bay able to be truly preserved for the future!!
Most important question ever....... How much WD 40 was used in the making of this video.
Thanks for interviewing the people involved with the logistics of the move + the specs on the equipment used for the move.
What do Germans think of this?
Good to hear from the guys doing the work too. HGV Driving generally is a tricky job and everybody thinks we can see everything - we can't. That's one very impressive rig and good work by all involved. Everything you own comes on a truck so please give us all a little thought and room at junctions. All those years outside will mean a lot of work to restore it. Good fortune and respect for tackling it.
@@crosbonit also the crane is German.
Any ww2 game heads or militaria fans who randomly happened to see this beast traveling down the highway had an interesting day 😱
Great Job VNG and to my husband the driver, he truly takes a lot of pride in what he does. Great Video.
Great video and thanks again for highlighting the transport company that made the move happen. Thanks to VNG trucking for giving the move the precission and TLC that the Jagdtiger needed. Each section and group defined professionalism to execute this challenging move. Thanks again Sofi for documenting this piece of history making history yet again.
While it looks small compared to other modern vehicles, back in its day it was a beast to be reckoned with
Its heavier and taller than any modern tank…
The m88 is a huge vehicle. However, the jagdtiger, where the suspension system has fallen, looks bigger.
The jagdtiger is larger than the modern m1 in bigger of body length, height, and weight. The vehicle in the video looks lower than the actual silhouette due to the collapse of the suspension system. In fact, panther have a similar volume to modern vehicle.
Why did they tow it so fast??? Was it jeremy clarkson with his SPEED AND POWER!!!!?
Hats off to you Charles and your crew at VNG Trucking. When you say your best of the best you truly are. And thank you for your service. I saw this beast back in 1984 at APG. Sophie thank you for these videos. Always great to see how these precious pieces of history are now being better preserved and restored.
Are there any plans to restore more of the heavier German armor to running condition. Like tigers, tiger 2s, jagdtigers, jagdpanthers and Ferdinand.
Problem is parts, mainly engines and gearboxes. Tiger 131 has had 3 engines when she was rebuilt. Last one they had to trade for lots of parts with the SDK group.
6:36 the crane operator could've told you how heavy it is ... which isn't 80 tons.
When it's fully loaded with ammo and fuel (Combat load) then it weight is about 85 tons.
Even from more than 70 years ago the the German Jagdtiger is still a formidable opponent
Amazing. I had wondered whatever happened to 331. There's even a Mark Felton video on its capture.
Interesting seeing how it was moved back in 1945. Looks much more dangerous for sure. Thanks for adding that. d8^)
Thanks for the video. I saw this Jagdtiger when it was back at Aberdeen. Very impressive machine. Glad to see they are trying to take better care of it now.
No conocía ese Jagtiger, imagino que le harán una restauración. Buen vídeo Sofi, saludos desde Chile (aunque veo el video desde Barcelona por vacaciones).
Good to see the old beast getting some love. These historic fighting vehicles need to be preserved.
I visited the Aberdeen armor museum in the summer of 1974, with my Dad (who had worked at Aberdeen Proving Grounds on weapons development during or after WW2). It was the largest, most impressive, & interesting display of tanks, artillery & other weapons I have seen. My Dad was quite knowledgeable of many of the tanks, artillery pieces, railway gun, V-2 rocket (he did research on the V-2 rockets in the 1950's), & much of the other items at the museum. I was about 10 years old at the time, & the museum was probably the most fascinating place I'd been to.
As I remember, most of the museum items were stored outside when I visited, & the road leading to the museum had tanks displayed on both sides. I wanted to see them all, & Dad stopped the car & took pictures of several of the tanks along side the road, but time was limited, & there was much to see, so we spent most of the time walking around the large field where most of tanks & artillery were displayed.
I remember seeing a Tiger 2 tank, which had been shot in the front lower hull (where the armor was thickest, I believe), & it looked like an oversize ice cream scoop had been used to remove some of the armor from 1 or 2 areas on the front lower hull, but did not go through the armor.
The tanks were fascinating, but the most interesting pieces were probably the German railway gun & V-2 rocket. I remember my Dad explaining to me that the rocket engine's thrust was directed (vectored) using moveable carbon vanes (to withstand the rocket's exhaust heat) located in the rocket's exhaust, & that the vanes were controled using gyroscopes & a feedback principle.
The railway gun (called "Leopold", I believe, was written on the side of the gun carriage) was collosal & looked like it might could have still worked, but I doubt it could have.
I'm pretty sure I didn't want to leave that museum, even after a full day there-lol!
I understand that some or all of the displayed tanks, etc. have since been dispersed to other museums.
Very interesting. Do you still have the photos your Dad took back then? They would be fascinating to look at now.
@@chrispearce9486 Yes. Dad made slides of the pictures, so the pictures could be viewed using a carousel projector & a screen. Dad took hundreds of pictures, & spent many hours creating slides from the pictures he had taken, & then created carousel categories of the slides. Each carousel is stored in its factory box, with the picture negative images.
Naturally, this was years before digital (camera) image technology allowed for much simpler picture creation & viewing.
I suppose a lot of the museum items my Dad took pictures of could be easily viewed on the internet, today, so I don't know that the pictures my Dad took would be particularly novel, compared with what's available on the internet, but possibly some of the pictures he took would be.
No disrespect to the present day oversize operators in their movement of the Jagdtiger, but after seeing the photo from 1945 of it on a tank recovery trailer of the period, sitting as high off the ground (high center of gravity) as it was, moving thru streets that in most cases were dirt and filed with craters, those early HEMTT crew members were pretty skilled themselves.
Wow what a huge undertaking! A lot of really cool equipment! Thanks for sharing.
I’m mostly just impressed that the original lifting lugs are still trustworthy. Thanks for this video Sofilein!
Tiger 131: unc is that u
Jagdtiger331: yea nephew its me
Tiger 131: how ya holding up?
Jagdtiger331: well lots of aches missing a track,ass itches more. Can't complain 😌
Tiger 131: i hear that!
Tiger 131: text me later
Thank you Sofilein et al for the video and commentary. Good job. Great to see another 1940s heavyweight armoured vehicle saved for posterity. Some heavyweights from the 1940s and 1950s survived purely because they were retained for NATO transport tests in Europe.
I just want to echo a lot of these comments and say thank you for this. You and your channel are a blessing to anyone even remotely interested in armored vehicles.
I had so much fun playing it in WoT, that it hurts to see it suffering like that. I hope they can eventually put it back together... Poor "little" wreck!
I remember that this Hunting Tiger was at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, MD Tank Museum for years now it's there. Hope they restore her back to her glory.
Great video! Every Tiger Tank needs a loving home!
Saw her and photographed her many times through the years at Aberdeen, she always had the other track on - where did it go? I'm glad they're treating it better, but it deserves a full restoration inside and out - if the Europeans can do it with their Tigers, why can't we do it with this one?
Was watching a replay of the Obj. 703 v2 from Lacho WOT Replays and then shows up in my feed. Welp back to Blitz then.
What is the status of the Jagdtiger engine? Can it still start?
Only engines who starts after 70 Years are russians.
Great video Sofi! These "move" videos are providing a one of a kind history...thanks for doing this.
Love all of your videos, you have one of the best channels on here. Thank you for allowing us the enjoy it with you. ❤
Pre-emptive like
To the Marilyn Monroe only more beautiful Sofilein tank girl, I love the way your refer to the facility as being the Jagtiger's Forever Home, as though it was a rescue pet!
Great to see the Jagtiger gets some love.
I hope it gets well restored and then being put on display in museum building. This thing is too rare to rust under open sky.
Sadly none of the 3 existing tanks is in running condition.
Greetings from germany.
I agree. This tank is a rare gem and not too many of them survived the War.
What preservation actions will be taken for it?
Can't decide who is more beautiful; Sofi or Jagdtiger...
If you dont know anything about Tanks....and you see the Jagdtiger for the first Time....you might actually mistake it for modern Military Equipment. cant say the same about, for example, the Sherma.....or even the the IS3
Irreplaceable extremely rare priceless relic. Please give this beauty some TLC. Awesome beast.
Among the best of your best videos. Hopefully, you can give us some footage of the belly of this beast in future, just to show the challenge it would be to restore her.
Wow that jagtigee has not moved from that spot in like 10 years since I last saw it.. wtf. They even removed a track ?? Why ?? And it also had a tarp on the roof too... now it doesnt..
Great job dragging it on it road wheels too.. love it..
It would be awesome to get this vehicle operational again. Expensive, but I well worth it for sure.
I wonder how many "near wrecks" happened when drivers passing by saw this thing going by.
All due respect to Canada and there tours with World of Tanks, I believe we in USA need to have something with Ft Benning to show off all there wares on these fine historical vehicles.
Are there any near term plans to bring it back in running conditions?
Good thing that the Americans are preseving these tanks.
Moving around a 70,700 metric is no mean feat! Now we can hope that it will be properly restored after being so long outside! I was a bit surprised that the Super duper Liebherr could handle this beast around! Thanks Sophie for sharing this very interesting video 👍 👍👍
80+ Ton Tank???
"Just" 72 Tons are still under 80...
And because of missing Tracks and many other Parts, this particular Jagdtiger is even more out of the Range of 80 Tons
The tank looks in a very sorry state I really hope they fix it up,saw the drive sprocket wasn't turning with the track on it,guess all the teeth sheared off long ago?
That's gotta be that crane operators highlight of his career.
"I moved a 70 ton tank".
Incredible
I hope its going to be a runner even better have the gun operational. Be a awesome sight to see / hear 128mm fire.
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Another of my childhood play toys being relocated … hopefully in a permanent location that will allow it to be as preserved as a large hunk of metal can be. APG was my home and the museum was my playground. To say I have an affinity for each piece of armor and artillery that was there might be an understatement.
Hey sofilien sorry sweetie your never going to see a maus tank your favorite German tank but you have the jagdtiger you can climb on fraulein. 😍
It's so sad to see it in that state. I saw the Jagdtiger as it was still stuck outside at Aberdeen proving ground, but the intervening years haven't done it much good.
At least now it will get a better place! I look forward to hearing about when the NACC will allow foreign civilians to have a look at their impressive collection!
@@colbeausabre8842 That is the tragedy of this. You used to be able to see this stuff at Aberdeen, then after 9/11 it was only after clearance. Now the collection is finally being preserved and the public who is funding it does not get access to see it. The army museum at Carlise PA is outside the base so the public can visit. I also can see this is in a cycle where there is money being spent. Probably about another 50 years until it is funded again. The Aberdeen museum displays were stuck in the 1960s and rarely changed.
Nice
The workshop bay is climate controlled
Your bond with the jag tiger is increased
Crazy to see this finally end up in a much more suitable location. I saw this as a kid at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds in the mid-90's...and it's cool to see it all these years later.
If i win the lottery I'm rebuilding an close as possible jagtiger replica. I may or may not also put googly eyes on it.... Awesome vid!
USA hauled away a lot of German vehicles after ww2 and left them to mostly decompose. a rare vehicle like this should never have been left out and neglected like this. compare it to the example in the Bovington Tank Museum in England, where they have an even rarer version. indoors, in pretty good condition, considering how it was found. it can't be beyond resources to manufacture a set of tracks for this vehicle so at least it can sit properly...?
Tut einem in der Seele weh zu sehen wie die Amies unsere Schmuckstücke behandeln...
Driven by this beauty many times wish I knew they were moving it. Would have loved to come hang out with you.
wow.... awesome footage and brilliant Video quality. Thx Soffi.
M88 is a mind blower. In Germany, the mechanics would come in at night to do some work or move a vehicle. I fondly remember the ground shaking and the blue flame blowing out the rear end, as they calmly did their jobs. An incredible piece of equipment.
I NEVER would have believed that crane could have lifted the Jagdtiger......seeing that alone made watching the video worth it.
Awesome work! Congratulations!! I will love to see it someday..
lol "oversized load" is an understatement. what a beast.
Cool. And I thought it was nice of you to allow the transporter to put in a plug for their company.
In Deutschland hätte man den auf einen normalen Tieflader gestellt. 😉Wird auch Zeit das die gestohlene Ausrüstung wieder an uns zurück gebracht wird!
@Ryan das ist deutsches Eigentum, und wurde von Piraten und Söldnern der USA gestohlen!
Amazing work everybody, thank you for taking care of this tank.
I was blessed to see it in person back in the day. Aberdeen NEVER took care of it. Nor did they any another german tank. Well some smaller stuff. Sad. But in there defense that wasn't there job. But only if one person could had seen the potential America could have had a tiger day too. Nothing like what Britain has but still a fun time for all. Now they've taken all my favorites away from me. Patton and Aberdeen was an easy drive for me. Well hopefully I'll get down to the sun sometime. Haha. God bless.
The Tank Museum is in support of not part of the British Army. The US army museums are part of the US Army and have it in their policy to train soldiers. Doing things for the public is second hand.
what impresses me is that the hauling points on the hull still works after all this time. No cracks or such things despite the 80 years of sitting around.
Makes more sense seeing this in real life as to why they would just abandon them if they broke down. She's a chunka chunka chunka...
Esos carros hubieran tenido amplia cobertura de la lufthwaffe!! Hubieran destruido todo a su paso!!
They don't make 'em like that anymore ! Nothing like seen a Jagdtiger first thing in the morning? 😎 I thought they were all gone, kaput?😲
Outstanding thanks
I've actually touched that one. Have pictures of it when it was at Aberdeen from my MOS school days.
Beautiful, magnificent machines! Both the trucks and the tracked vehicles.
That was really AWESOME to see this Jagdtiger 331 being moved inside. Thank you soo much for sharing this video, your terrific Sophie! I hope someday I can go there to see that great tank destroyer!
Truly one of favorite tanks in all of armored history.
Great video it’s amazing to see these videos.
Not really a tank is it.
@@burlatsdemontaigne6147 Yes and no.
By definition of a , ( Tank ) it is. But the true place and name is a tank destroyer or SNIPER if you will. Outfitted with a massive 128 cm main armament.
Oh man, this is the best: ATS2 AND WOT thrown together.
Plus my oldest brother drives a Liebherr crane just like that one.
Yeah, he's the black sheep of the family, for obvious reasons.
Good stuff Sofi, thanks.
Hell yeah!
Dios, que monstruo...
Just look at those battle scars. That old girl saw some shit before her crew abandoned her. I didn’t get a clear look, but counted at least five non-pens, most looked like they hardly scratched the surface. What a beast.
Nice war trophy. Thanks for doing this Sofilein, great to see you again!!
Awesome video! I saw this Jagdtiger at Aberdeen Proving Grounds many years. Hopefully, it will undergo a worthy restoration. Would definitely like to see the gun barrel and mantle restored.
I love the shameless self promotion of the truck drivers at the end, how they are the best of the best with their massive over engineered truck and trailer. Then at the end you see an old photo of the tank being transported on truck and trailer a third of the size that probably drove hundreds of miles..
What did the crane say it weighed? They have a built-in scale I think.
Otto Carius commanded one of these in the final days of the war and in his book told stories of crews abandoning these beasts in the field due to their immobility. He utterly hated these monsters because they were slow unreliable and had no turret! I do agree that this treasure needs to be fully restored, and if it is I will be one of the first to see it. I have seen it twice in my life. Both times at Fort Knox. I was stationed there in 1980 and saw it then and took my two grown boys to see it before it was moved.
Great vid.. sure love German machines. i hope in your heart to make it a runner,,God bless
Every single aspect of this is impressive. Especially love the dragon wagon at the end.
Your end photo is perfect you should clip that and caption it “it followed me home can I keep it“ #tankmom 😉
Okay, but is this one house-trained?
Vraiment très belles ces images vidéo de ce vénérable tank de la ww2. 😎
Awesome move The first hauler has a SS, PH and CIB badge,