My Thoughts on "The Sudbury Devil," Atun-Shei Film's New Movie
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- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- A prentious prude offers you a non-spoiler review of @AtunSheiFilms new movie, "The Sudbury Devil." It's full of sex and violence, yes, but also history! And between the three I'll let you guess what part I love the most.
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~~Timestamps~~
Intro 00:00
Professionalism 01:13
The Soundtrack 03:43
Writing & Historical Language 04:42
The Story is Weird 07:50
The Use of Explicit Scenes 08:45
Comparisons to "The Witch" 11:30
The Story's Interpretation 13:05
Conclusion 17:22
The whole time I was watching I was waiting for the shoe to drop about that damn musket, and when it finally did at the end of the video I died laughing ❤
Are matchlocks pricier than flintlocks? Makes sense. Definitely rarer. But flintlocks were a thing by the late 1670s, right?
@@dmman33yep the flintlock part isn’t anachronistic, it’s everything else about the gun lol
@@AtunSheiFilms You know what? I just remembered a Brit mini-series that ran on PBS in the 1980s called "By The Sword Divided." Telling the story of a noble family split by the English Civil War
(1642 to 1653) Brown Bess muskets were VERY much in evidence!
The were pretty obvious if you knew what you were looking at.
A great series at any rate, VERY well done!
So Atun-Shei, you're not the first and you probably won't be the last!
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I tried watching The Tudors recently and they were firing off Kentucky style flintlock pistols. Normally I can overlook that sort of stuff but for whatever reason that night it was too much for me and I had to shut the TV off and read a book
It probably says something about the framing that, as a firearm nerd, I looked at the musket and thought to myself "Wow, this is the least weird part about this scene." Good stuff.
Most other UA-camrs consider a "short" video to be about 5 minutes long. Brandon considers 15 to 20 minutes to be short.
I guess in this case it's more a matter of "I could make this in just a day or two" as opposed to having to do research!
@@BrandonF does Atun have a vague timeline on a broader release?
I got into an argument with a guy about if 10 minutes was long. This was on a financial UA-camr's channel where the average video length was 10 minutes.
@@nicholaswalsh4462 he's said that after the limited theatrical release over the next several weeks is over they'll decide on a streaming service and announce it.
nowadays most short videos are under a minute
The friend I went with called it racist. I was really sad because I feel like every theme in the movie went completely over his head... he walked out and left me to watch the 3rd act on my own, and I enjoyed the hell out of it
Well, I certainly hope that he meant racist against white European peoples, because that is exactly the type of politicised “theatre geek” leftist tripe that Atun-Shei puts out.
Okay, if somebody thought that a movie Atun-Shei made was “racist,” that means I’ve GOT to see it, lol.
@@samuelprice2461 same lol
Too bad. Haven't seen it but to be left alone at a movie based one person's outrage/sqeamishness kinda sux.
Loser friend alert
Andy is a disturbed and depraved individual and I love him for it.
I'm gonna have to get a copy if/when a physical release happens. Andy, if you're reading this, I can only imagine how proud you are to have accomplished what so few have.
Thanks so much for offering your perspective on the film. As someone who adores certain faith based films and those that also challenge them I appreciate that you were able to resonate with the film on the level that you did. It was lovely meeting you at the premiere.
Cheers,
Veronika Payton, producer and intimacy coordinator of all the aforementioned sexuality.
Thanks, Veronika! It was a pleasure meeting you, too!
@happyhowlinvideo Props to you, Veronika! Thank you for helping make this film, intimacy coordinators are so vital to bringing about good film in ethical ways, I figured one was part of this production but I'm just really happy to see that confirmed.
As always, thanks for the shout-out, B! Was great to see you at the premiere. :)
Looks like you will have to report Atun-Shei to the magistrates in the shire in which he resides.
Clearly, he used witchcraft to bring forth a weapon he ought not to have had! DEVILREH!
A potentially unhealthy amount of sexual imagery and gore? I’ve never heard such a glowing endorsement of a film
While The vvitch is an obvious inspiration, an overlooked, and lesser known film that atun-shei also listed as an inspiration is A Field in England. That movie is a must watch in my book and there are definitely some homages in Sudsbury Devil to that film. Several similar visual elements. If you were a fan of some of the strange/trippy elements in this film for sure check out A Field in England.
I think Witchfinder General and Ravenous are other obvious unconscious influences, or probably conscious. This is just based on the trailer and knowing he likes those films
I rented a hotel room so I could see it at the New Orleans premiere, and was really impressed. This is also a very good review. I actually skipped the online premiere so I could see it for the first time in the theater, and I was glad I did. Sudbury Devil is a film packed with little details which are easy to miss without multiple viewings. Several scenes can indeed be interpreted in multiple ways depending on what you bring to them, and that is indeed the mark of a skilled scriptwriter. When you feel like talking about the film in more detail I look forward to hearing what else you have to say.
I wish I could see the Sudbury Devil very soon when it gets released on Online Media (I live abroad). Andrew posted his first film on Amazon Prime, and I hope he would do that after it finishes its tours for the premiere
The trailer that Andrew posted did gave a well funded film vibe to it and your comparison to Snowpiercer is actually pretty apt in how the general vibe of it feels for me. It feels... so gritty, so distant... the settings feels foreign and cold.
And there's not a lot of media who covered this part of history so it's just a plus for me. I seriously hope he gets far in his Filmmaking ventures. It's his passion after all
Yes I really wonder, when or rather if, it will ever be available in a middle/almost large, Swedish town, with a history of bad cinematic culture.
For me, the fact that different people can take away different messages is a sign of good writing and acting. Far too many films hit you in the face with the message stappled to a sledgehammer, it's nice to hear something more subtle and open to interpretation.
I went into this movie mostly blind when it showed at The Guild in Albuquerque. It threw me in a couple scenes, with some very graphic scenes and language. There are moments that I felt unsettled, but they were likely intended to. I liked it, but it left me rattled for a bit and thinking on it.
This is a bit like the discussion on the nudity in Oppenheimer. It’s supposed to make you uncomfortable.
Awesome review! Thank you for checking it out and ecstatic you enjoyed the music. Cheers!
I loved the film. Thanks for covering it. Everyone needs to see it, the algorithm needs to do better with Atun-Shei and Brandon F.
I anxiously await my viewing of this video… such wonderful quality always. I’m certain the film will likewise be a pleasure to enjoy.
I appreciate the note about the subtitles, I am hard of hearing, and while im very much looking forward to this, its good to know that i should definitely wait for that accessibility feature to be available.
what I took from this video (not movie) is that you how Brandon doesn't agree with Andy's political views but still considers him a friend.
so rare to see this in todays world
Are their views that different though? It's easy for people who disagree to get along if their disagreements are minor, but it becomes considerably more difficult if they were to actually breach something more fundamental. If you were still friends with someone who so roundly was fundamentally against the core of your moral demarcations, then staying friends with them would make your beliefs seem like a joke.
Sure, Brandon's a Monarchist and Andy is relatively more openly anti-authoritarian, but on the subject of the general rights and treatment of people, and how systems should be built around that, they really aren't so different.
@@moshedayl3064 completly agree with your comment. There are levels of believes and if you disagree on the deepest level you just can't be friends.
My comment was more on level when people disagree on smaller points and consider other side as evil.
@@kranjcalan completely fair.
Interesting 🙃! I grew up in Sudbury (East Sudbury-Wayland.) I remember visiting the monuments in Sudbury to the fallen militia and Indigenous warriors who died during the Sudbury Raid in King Philip’s War on April 21, 1676.
I haven’t watched the "The Sudbury Devil" yet (I fully intend to.) I’m not sure how I will process all of it, given I’m an Ordained Deacon of a Baptist Church. I’m also a professional artist and no stranger to bizarre, gratuitous, and shocking historical fiction.
My love of Massachusetts history compels me to watch this film. I could go on.
Thank you, Brandon!
Given your background & religious position I'd be really interested to hear your thoughts on the film when you do!
I’m looking forward to seeing it. I didn’t know the filmmaker is a fellow Waylander. I watched the Atun-Shei film about the Sudbury Fight and I was very impressed.
I've watched Andy's work on-and-off for the past few years. Some of it I found very profound, some hilariously funny, and some of it a total turn-off that annoyed the hell out of me.
BUT, that being said, even though I may not ever get to see "The Sudbury Devil" I sincerely hope this leads to great things for Andy! He's a good kid and deserves the success.
I’m curious as to what videos you thought were annoying if you don’t mind sharing.
@@James2005. The ones that went a bit heavy on the "White Guilt." Don't get me wrong, I'm no racist, but as far as history is concerned there's plenty of dirty hands of all races. There's still plenty of dirty hands to go around today.
I'm not going to make a laundry list of the annoying vids but I would remind Andy of something he said in one of them:
"There's a lot to be ashamed of in American history, but there's a LOT more to be proud of." I haven't seen much in the way of pride in Andy's vids, or maybe to be fair I've just missed it.
Andy's still a young man full of collegiate "Save the world!" activism, or so it seems. I've got almost 60-plus years of study concerning history and let's say I've developed a bit of tolerance for those in the past. Things are rarely "black and white," we can't understand the events (ANY events) of the past the way those who lived through them did (That's if THEY even did!) and we have to avoid falling into the trap of "presentism," that is judging those of the past by present-day standards or saying things like "Well if I was around back then I wouldn't have thought like that!"
Yes, you would have.
I did remember one video. It's the one where Klaus the Nazi (Great character by the way!) shows up at the Confederate tombs with a dumb sap sidekick wearing a MAGA hat. I'm not a big Trump fan (Although I liked his policies and the results they got) but that particular bit struck me as a needless slap in the face to a lot of very good people. The working class folk, which the other party's abandoned. Even James Carville and Paul Begala said it:
"They've left the factory floor for the faculty lounge!"
Anyway, that's enough.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706I'd say that if you've watched his videos about King Phillips War and took them in good faith, youll find that he doesn't single out white people as guilty in any extraordinary way. I don't know how you can tell the story of American history from the 17th century onward without implicating white people in horrible acts that frankly didn't happen in the reverse case. No one is forcing you to interpret guilt, but if you felt like that was the message, I honestly think that reflects more on you than it does him.
@@davidgjam7600
“…whte people committed horrible acts that frankly didn’t happen in reverse…” 😂😂😂
Wow. I don’t believe I’ve ever heard a more clueless, ignorant, europhobic statement in all my life. Atun-Shei, is that you?? You can’t be serious. Tell me you don’t know anything about the New England Anglo-Indian Wars without telling me you don’t know anything them. To be sure, your entire comment was politicised leftist poppycock, but that statement alone was enough to discredit your expertise on this very specialised subject, which absolutely, positively, 110% DID include horrific acts carried out against the English population.
Do you even live in New England? Into our early history much? Hell, I could name several despicable acts of outright murder, which involved mostly children (but then, when do leftists ever condemn brutality against innocent children?) committed by many of the Algonquian-speaking tribes in this region. Unprovoked, unwarranted, unjustified, period, end of report, next case. And that’s just the ones off the top of my head that immediately come to mind.
I find it equally amusing how all you callow leftists who can’t help yourselves when it comes to altering our history and slandering our traditional folk heroes will show your anti-whte bias without even taking any care to at least try to conceal it. Speaks volumes. You’ll whine and cry about “mUh rAciZm” when it comes to Hannah Dustin avenging her newborn infant after the Abenaki smashed its head against a pine tree, after they bound her hands together, forcing her to watch, and then attempting to march her and her neighbours into the wilderness where they were to be sold into slavery in New France. But then, when it comes to “indigenous” aggression, everything they do is somehow justified because they were supposedly “fiGhTiNg tO pRoTeCt tHeiR LaNd”.
If you can’t take our history seriously, if you lack the maturity and focus it takes to analyse our history from impartial ground and tell it as it really happened, then simply stay away from it. Go play video games or zone out on pornography, or whatever other low culture abominations your ilk love to immerse yourselves in. Seriously, I honestly do not understand why postmodernist leftist types even like history. I just don’t understand it.
I have noticed - and this is especially true in people like Atun-Shei’s case - that whenever leftists dive into history, there always seems to be this corny, vapid touch of ironic “theatre geek” aesthetic to it. I swear, this is the case in so many examples I’ve seen. They just can’t take anything seriously. Everything has to be dressed over with childish, ironic humour or politicised rhetoric mucked up with depthless sketch comedy. Must be the lack of an adult attention span. And even when you guys do try to do anything intelligent, you people are almost NEVER impartial and you never waste an opportunity at smearing and demonising European peoples over every little act of hostility, no matter how justified, whilst excusing every act of barbarity committed against them (especially when it comes to innocent children, but again, that much is to be expected). Go watch Marvel movies or space out on TikTok.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706The MAGA guy in that video you mentioned was Karl Kasarda, a follower of Antifa and the church of satan, his UA-cam channel is "inrange tv."
Ngl the sexual themes and moments were harder to watch than the blood and gore. Grew up on 80’s action and horror films so that wasn’t the problem. Weird how that works
I’m looking forward to seeing this film when it’s available for the general public. I have been following his updates for some time, and it looks like it is very well done. Thanks for the review!
Also, one of my all time favorite UA-cam moments was you appearing as a “Limey sprite” in Atun-Shei’s video on yankee sailors.
I saw it in Boston recently and it was honestly so good and surprisingly (or not so surprisingly) really funny
After publishing this review I realized I didn't talk about the comedy elements!
Given that I know folks who know him and may have helped out....and love the era in particular, I am very intrigued by this film. Using Snowpiercer as a point is interesting as I often compare 17th century history to dystopian literature in relation to religion and economics. The clips I've seen, the language is excellent.
Grrrrr now I want to see it even more now.
Watching the film definitely makes me want to dive deeper into this era. My knowledge of really anything pre-1700s is far too sparse!
@@BrandonFcome to the dark side. We have more buttons.
Honestly not much can beat 17th C. drums, either.
@@BrandonFdepends on decade....I had to research them for a friend. 18th century and 19th century drums tend to keep a size through much of the century. 17th century are all over the place.
@@BrandonF....got more into the video....a religious studies debate....OMG....NOW I HAVE TO SEE IT. Andy's video on James I was excellent, he definitely knows how to discuss that topic. I'm not a Christian and also not in the Satanist camp, but can understand both academically, now I'm excited.
The ending got me hahahaaa
Thanks so much for the shoutout! It was great finally meeting you in person!
I’m REALLY interested in your interpretation of the movie and from what you have said, I can totally see what you’re talking about.
Having seen it a second time, I can both appreciate it as more of a tone-poem than a friggtfest (horror isn’t my preferred genre anyway), and think the sexy bits do go on a little bit longer than they need to. But maybe that’s cuz I lean more on interest in history and ideas than sex and violence for their own sake. That being said, I appreciate their presence in serving the movie’s ideas.
I actually find this really fascinating, that many people feel like the sex was pushing the envelope more than the violence! Andy wanted us to really marinate in the uncomfortableness of both but I think we're just not used to mainstream media treating the sex scenes that way.
@@00muinamir Yeah, I agree. If more budget, try the same with Georgian and Victorian dress?
G-D, I so so so so want to see this movie, and this only makes me want to see it more. Exactly my vibe. I hope I can see it in person.
I watched the movie via livestream and agree 100% with Brandon on his take although I did not catch the issue with the musket. My technical quibble would be with some of ‘otherworldly‘ special effects, but would have needed a much larger budget to take care of.
Considering the film's budget, I thought the special effects were quite good. Not Marvel level of course but not insultingly cheap and they got the point across.
Does anyone have advice on going to Trooping the Colour rehearsals? I'm considering going to the U.K. next summer, and might try and get ticket(s) to the Colonel's review.
It can be tricky to get tickets to the events- I don't know about the Colonel's review but at least the full parade is a lottery system where you have to 'win' the ability to purchase a ticket. But even if you can't go to the actual event, you can go to stand by the Mall and see the procession go by. If you do so, arrive VERY early. When I first went I showed up basically at sunrise to make absolute certain I had pick of the best spots haha.
"Inane ramblings" are the reason my wife has learned to add "just the short version" whenever she asks me a historical question.
The too much water reference killed me, hahahaha.
Just saw this... You're rather charming in it, if I can be so forward.
I’m about to watch an atun shei propaganda piece. As a fan it’d be an understatement to say I’m excited.
A quick outline of the movie at the start would have been helpful- unless it was so quick I missed it.
My jaw hit the floor in that last minute. LMFAOOO! My god I adored that conclusion, down to the phone hand. 😂 God that was the funniest thing.
Good review, good info. I’m intrigued, although I am deeply opposed to the fundamental sensibilities of Satanism, and find it terribly ironic how popular it is in New England, I may try to give the movie a whirl. I hate to have to say this, but I’m not a Christian either. I just think that such persuasions are obnoxious and self-unaware at best and blindly destructive at worst.
Anyway. Imma be laughing at that conclusion for awhile.
Honestly anyone who might be mislead about thinking Atun-Shei is a guy who is a comedian funny guy and doesn't expect his films to be graphic as all get out, clearly had not watched him talk about films like Ravenous, or his disappointment at the lack of blood in movies like Gettysburg or Gods and Generals. They obviously do not get the kind of guy Andy is.
interesting video, I had never even heard ot his movie
I've been listening to the soundtrack while I write too.
14:25 idk if it's bc of different regions but the link to that video doesnt work for me. Was able to find it by searching on UA-cam tough
Thanks for bringing that to my attention- I've just updated the link and it should be working now.
I wish someone would talk about the Robin Hood film, the one with Russell Crowe (G'day mate) as I thought that was truly awful, maybe more historically acurate than some of it's cannon, but still monotonous
I was a extra in A movie about Ethan Allen during the American revolution it will come out any time this year. Probably really hoping to get a reaction on it especially on my 1770 American light infantry kit during the battle of Bennington 1777
where can i watch this film?
Any idea if/when it'll be available on DVD and VHS?
There will be a physical media release once we have secured streaming. I intend on releasing a boutique tape release and we will have blu-ray/dvd with extensive commentary and behind the scenes.
@@happyhowlinvideoawsome!
I think the VVitch and the Sudbury Devil aren’t shadows, they’re partners. I would say both are in a conversation on Puritanism, just from different angles.
One of the first things that struck me, in a good way, was the soundtrack. So good.
Probably the best part of the whole film by a mile
@@BrandonF harsh
haha, not how I meant it! As in, the soundtrack is just so spectacular. The rest of the film is also good.@@amygeyer1166
0:15 Huh, I don't think the color of the stain on that stone is correct.
It was a really good film but also pretty scary in a disturbing way.
Now that the film is Streaming, a spoiler filled review would be in order.
You know, that Brown Bess could have been "17th Century-ized" pretty simply. Remove the nose cap and trim that end ot the stock, paint the stock a dull or brick red, very common back then, and paint the white metal parts black, also very common in the 17th Century, then substitute a wood ramrod for the metal one, at least for the close-ups. OK, it's a flinlock, not a matchlock, but the flintlock had been developed by the middle of the 17th Century and they certainly would have made their way to the New World colonies. Top technology firearms of the time were critical for suvival and a matchlock was hardly top tech, still fine (somewhat) for Old World armies but not so good for a colonist trying to stay alive.
Ignore my Monday-morning quarterbacking, I appreciate a filmaker who at least TRYS to get it right!
Yeah during King Philips War flintlocks almost completely replaced matchlocks in New England (film is set in 1678). Sadly the reason we had to settle for having the equivalent of an AK-47 at the battle of Gettysburg was money… I already had a 18th c flintlock prop and our black powder armorer Jon had a real one to match for the scene where it gets fired
@@AtunSheiFilms Understandable, for a film maker both time and budget are stern taskmasters, especially budget. I wish the carping critics who moan about 1950's American tanks dressed up as WW2 German panzers in so many war movies would realize that, among other things that have to be compromised on.
As long as the film makers show me they at least TRIED to get it right I'm willing to overlook anachronisms.
So, when is he bringing the film to Gateway? That would be incredible, and I would certainly be there.
The film isn't coming anywhere near anywhere Im going to be any time soon and I sadly due to circumstances I couldn't surrender the 25$ price for the stream, not this month. Needless to say I am dying to see this movie, I've been dying to see it since the trailer. And your video has made it so much worse, so thank you. Oh well, at least I managed to finally see Ravenous, which AS has been promoting on his channel for what feels like the last few years.
Cant believe i almost missed a video. It’s always fun when brandon turns into his movie critic personality
Andrew, thoughts?
This guy is like a ringer for Lord Sebastian from Brideshead Revisited. No Teddy Bear in sight though...
not showing in my area
5:42 You made me remember some excellent Spanish historical shows in which they manage to avoid that, and have the characters speaking the way that people did speak back then.
What’s the name of that show?
"One scene definitely made me raise an eyebrow-" there's for sure a scene that people seemed to respond to as such, and honestly I find it baffling that it's been crowned "THAT Scene" when to me it's the least horrifying of the "weird stuff in the woods" moments in this film... I mean nobody dies! Violence is so normalized in our culture that no one bats an eye at a stabbing, but God forbid someone do something sexual outside of the missionary position... like, please tell me someone else caught the irony of reacting like that to a film about the Puritans.
Having just seen the film a day ago, I get what you're saying about the pro-Christian vs. anti-Christian takeaway and I guess my response to that is... maybe part of this hinges on one's experience with Christianity. For those of us who had to deal with hardcore Evangelicals, especially in our formative years, there are a lot of unfortunate parallels with the Puritans and we are perhaps inclined to identify with and root for the witches in this film. For people who have had some slightly saner experiences with other denominations I could see identifying with Fletcher. But no one's a hero in this film, so despite a seemingly-cosmic struggle between the two sides in the end I think we're mostly just left to contemplate how small and weak individual humans are as they desperately scrabble for a sense of control in an unforgiving world. Which feels very Andy to me.
Despite all the hype about it, I find myself struggling to remember what happened in "THAT scene," honestly.
I remember that, the third time or so that we saw an explicit sex act on screen, Andrew posted in the chat "this is where people tend to walk out," and I remember thinking myself something like: "Oh COME ON," but somehow it all seems to blend together, now.
@@Nikolapoleon oh I totally missed that comment in the livestream! I was thinking specifically of the scene with the rock, was that the same one he said it about?
@@00muinamir No, I think it was later.
@@00muinamir you sound like a dumbass redditor.
I am 17. I have watched this film. 😂
Im a big fan of andy and his work but im also a victim of sexual violence, i was just wondering if someone could tell me how graphic the SA scenes are before watching the film
I was lucky enough to watch it this past Friday the 13th. It was really good, although the caveats Brandon F. gives are important.
If you're into history and horror and you don't mind some sex and violence, to see it!
hey Brandon love the review. I have a question about revolvers in 19th century warfare if you'll indulge me. why did no army in the mid eighteenth century consider replacing muskets/rifles with revolvers for line infantry combat? wouldn't 6 shots before having to reload be superior to 1? was it because of logistical or accuracy concerns? I know that this isn't relevant to the review but I've always had this question. thanks for you're time and keep up the good content.
Two major reasons are range limitations and utility in melee. A musket and bayonet were far more useful to an army in close quarters than pistols and swords. Additionally, a pistol will barely reach 100 yards at all, while a musket or rifle will easily reach 150 with most of its energy remaining.
There is alot more, perhaps Brandon could do a small video on the details of why revolvers never replaced muskets in a dismounted context (and perhaps discuss the few minor exceptions to that).
thanks@@kyleheins
im so bummed i coud not make it to the brooklyn show
In regards to period based language, that depends a lot on (a) the period (I do want to understand what is being said - nothing gets me quicker out of my focus if I have to spend more time on trying to understand what is being said) and (b) the type of movie/series. For example, in A Knight's Tale they use very modern music, and behaviour of for example the fans, but I liked it. It fitted the movie and that movie certainly didn't want to he historical accurate.
With OP it's a bit of a risk (a few people did struggle with it) but broadly, it's more intelligible than people think. I find it's harder to listen to Shakespeare in OP because you're also dealing with a vocabulary difference and a more artistic syntax, but if it's just regular people talking to each other, as in this movie, it's like listening to someone with a pronounced Irish or Scottish accent. I think the OP is crucial to making this film what it is.
Well this definitely won't be biased at all
PUP!!! HE CAN DO AS HE PLEASES
You talk about right kind of English .... Imagine how I feel about films like "Corelli's Mandolin"...
Greek, Italian, German, they all, speak broken English, and this goes for all of them ...
(You are a dear. )
I went to see this with my parents. I was glad that I wasn’t sitting with them during the Cum Stone scene.
Bravo 😂
Im suprised it has not premiered in Louisiana or its neighbor Texas
It will be showing in New Orleans I think.
And we are setting up an Austin screening as well. Plenty more dates will be announced soon :)
It premiered in New Orleans on September 18, 2023, at the Zeitgeist Theater & Lounge in Arabi.
TLDR: of course it's good
i love you brndon f
I am actually very interested into the pro-Christian message you received from the movie, not in a sense that I disagree with it of course. If you wouldn't mind giving that opinion in a reply or something of the sort, I would be grateful.
Way I see it, the movie was about Puritanism sacrificing itself to have sex with America, the continent, and giving birth to the upcoming United States of America. This could potentially that the movie implies that the USA, up to it's current point, is literally Satan, but I think there are deeper messages than that, and I would love to hear and consider them.
5:23 i agree it doesnt ruin the immersion unless you say something very stupid for example this is kind of an odd example but in life is strange one of the main characters dad is an aphganistan vet and he is an abusive father but when you confront him he says well i thought i knew a lot of things like when im outflanked its that shit that makes me mad
I'd seen references to the film but I guess I hadn't realized it was a full movie. I doubt it will come to a theater near me. If it comes on Prime then I'll watch it.
~90 minutes long! And, they are looking at different streaming services I think, but the theatre screenings are limited as it's a small production.
Brandon, The war your talking about. Would that, also be know as the French and Indian war ?
No, that was the 7 Years War in the mid 18th Century. King Phillip's War was a frontier war between English colonists and Native Americans in the 17th Century.
9:09 After seeing the Film in Eugene, OR I felt very uncomfortable at times during the film because of my own sensibilities but that never detracted from the film or pulled me out of it. I just had to stop looking. And it was mostly the sexual stuff, the bloody violent suff was ok for me actually. Which during the film made me think about it. Like why I felt that way.
I massively respect you for still being able to enjoy Shei’s movies and content despite his extreme views on so many things. He’s clearly passionate about what he does, but I’m afraid that I find many things that he has decided to pit that passion into to be very alienating and unhelpful for me to watch. Its great that you two can remain on such good terms despite your obvious differences though, it definitely takes a big person to be able to do that.
Engagement
We getting some drama between Brandon and Chris
No, not really.
"Euphoria" is another Great example of nudity in movies and tv shows on HBO. But this time, it was mostly about highschool kids lol. Now that's definitely controversial.
I may or may not have thought you meant the Japanese Euphoria for a few seconds...
And with GOT there definitely is more nudity than in the books. But i don't really get what Brandon's deal is with the decapitations in that show. The only one i can think of is Ned Stark's execution, the swords cutting so cleanly are Valyrian steel. So magic basically.
:)
And I was hyped about this movie... such a shame he's presenting 18th century piece in 17th century setting
How do you mean?
Just watched the film for the first time, I have no idea how you managed to get a pro-Christian message out of it lol
Yeah, atun shei is Openly bigoted against Christians.
Brandon def getting funnier in his old age.
Me: Raise an eyebrow? Which one is that Brandon....
Ah yes nevermind. I know the one.
I still don't know which scene he means
@@Taskicore Ah Goodenow licking the rock. That is the part I where my eyebrow raised and I believe that when Brandon's was raised too.
@@rileyernst9086 oh I mean idk didn't really seem all that outrageous compared to the witches constantly raping the Witchfinders lol
Like don't get me wrong, cumming on a rock and then licking the rock is weird. That said it's not IMMORAL. Like I'd much rather have people cumming on rocks than forcing each other to strip naked at knifepoint lol
@@Taskicore He HAD just jerked off all over said rock.
But it's a fair point.
Never seen the movie. Yet - I find this dissction intriguing. Two of the worst date movies that I've ever been on started out with un'-consensual sex scenes. Not much shocks me anymore but I'm not turned on by such things. That being said, I just might have to put this one on might have to put this one on my hit-list.
oh leave asoiaf alone.
A short land pattern? 🙄 seriously, you can't get much farbier than that...
I know, right?
Tldr: 'america bad'.
17:05 if you mean like christian propaganda then yeah kinda and keep in mind ive not seen the movie so i cant speak on that part but if you mean its gods not dead level of christian propaganda because i think its a Christians worst nightmare
No, not propaganda, just a message that basically affirms "Turns out the Pruitans were right, this devil thing is not heckin cool"
Edit: The film doesn't actually say that though. Paraphrased or otherwise!
Yeah mate I understand
If a film has a pro-Christian message that doesn’t make it propaganda, it just means it has a pro-Christian or can be interpreted as a pro-Christian message, by that logic I could say a film that isn’t so favourable to Christians is anti-Christian propaganda when really it’s just critical.
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 yeah I understand I just misinterpreted it as christian propaganda I don't have the best relationship with god
@@pyrrhusofepirus8491 Then all art is propaganda. Even purely aesthetic works of form or structure.
While I would personally not watch the film (due to my own beliefs on such subjects as sexuality and witchcraft) I will say, I am glad as always to hear from you, and to see better representations of history in media. I only pray my own work will find success in this regard, despite being my own brand of fantasy, with the objective being to mention bring a positive and hopeful message to a world so devoid of it.
Like what?
A man of morals! Always good to see it in our... not so moral... world.
@@CaptainFritz28as if the movie is immoral or people who don't have his same quams are immoral
@@fnansjy456 That is precisely my contention. I think there is a difference between appreciating the skill it takes to make art (which I think Brandon has done), and supporting the immorality of it (which I think Brandon has not done), however.
Now, certainly, any set of morals requires an ultimate moral law, and mine is the Bible. I choose that moral law because it happens to be the one which has caused, by far, the greatest amount of good to be done. For example, it is what gave America its prosperity. It is what gave a source for arguments in favor of human rights. It is what ended the slave trade. It is what makes everyday life so much simpler, and yet so much deeper, than anything else. It is what prevents suicide, brings together families, causes the forgiveness of great grievances. All of these are historically proven, as well as still the case today.
Now, the Bible also states that if you are not for it, you are against it. There is no neutral ground.
So yes, I am saying that if a movie displays content that is obviously against the Bible, or breaks the moral law set forth by the same, it is immoral. And yes, I am saying that anyone who does not give pause to the consideration of indulging in such immorality, or willfully advocates for it, is acting immorally.
You hit the nail right on it's head my friend.
Ok so I actually did appreciate this film but the special effects were bad. Like 2000’s syfy channel bad. I did like the writing and I thought the story was good. Acting was excellent for a low budget movie
I just like to note how 'seriously stupped' Brandon gets at the "If-IF YOU ARE A MINOR, DO NOT WATCH THIS FILM" Part. Kinda nice to see the care for el kiddies.
I'm just gonna say it, I understand this is a serious film by serious filmmaker, but if Johnny Rebel isn't in it - I'm not watching.
Sorry, not sorry.
Johnny Reb would be too young.
His great grandsire, potentially?
@@Justanotherconsumer Johnny Reb is neither too old nor too young, he is always exactly the right age.
Awesome how the film doesn't tell you who to root for- God, the Devil, the murderous Christian colonists, the equally murderous (but far more sexy) Satanists- pick your own team, we're just letting ya know what happened
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How would anyone come off with any impression of Atun-Shei other than “this man is messed up in the head” after watching the first episode of “Checkmate, Lincolnites?” He - quite literally - murders Johnny Reb in the first episode…
The dude has always been messed up in the head. The Sudbury Devil is nothing more than a manifestation of just how messed up he actually is.
Which is a good thing
@@dmman33 You are psychotic too.
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[A] Because they hope,you can catch,their DRIFT
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Satan is after all the principal Christian deity. Sigh. Especially with regard to evangelical Christianity.
Catharism seems hard to stamp out.
Is the Sudbury Devil good?
No.
Get a job you furry degenerate
Did you see it?
If you didn't like it, it wasn't for you
@@nicolasnamed, it’s not for anyone.
*Sigh*
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