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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • On our Heller HF5500 with the Siemens 840D Control has an unique feature called "ACM" | Adaptive Control Monitoring |. In this video Machinist Barry goes over how easy and intuitive this awesome feature is to cut down your cycle times and increase productivity!
    0:00 How to machine faster cycle times
    1:05 ACM Technology with Siemens
    1:58 Training the program
    2:28 Turning on ACM
    4:44 How much did ACM help?
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  • @danielczoller3395
    @danielczoller3395 2 місяці тому +75

    I got it, i got.
    First step: buy Heller.

    • @iDeLaYeD_o
      @iDeLaYeD_o 2 місяці тому +3

      siemens control but yes

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @DJMARCELOUDO
      @DJMARCELOUDO 2 місяці тому

      No, ACM works with Siemens and other brands too like Fanuc for example. Off course if you control is Siemens you will have more fancy screens to see the software working…but in the end works with others CNC’s

  • @Sara-TOC
    @Sara-TOC 2 місяці тому +25

    The way ACM adapts to changing conditions showcases the power of smart manufacturing. It’s like having a digital assistant ensuring every cut is perfect. Great video, Barry!

  • @ramonstvol8662
    @ramonstvol8662 2 місяці тому +10

    We have a similar thing on our DMGs with Heidenhain Control, its called AFC there (adaptive feed control) but you can also change the lead in and lead out speed there. Pretty useful feature. EDIT: But there is one thing you should be aware of using this: It changes the feed based on Spindle load not Tool load which means If you are having a dynamic milling path with different axial depths of cut you could overload your tool on the tip cutting edge because If you are cutting in a shallower region the spindle load would go done because ap is decreased, this would increase the feed but now the tip portion of the tool is running 50% faster than the tool maker designed it for, this could ruin your toollife.

    • @arthurcosteschi5115
      @arthurcosteschi5115 2 місяці тому

      Great function. IT exists for 15 years. iTNC530

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @sbprecision
    @sbprecision 2 місяці тому +5

    I've been waiting for this video based on a Titans FaceBook thread a while ago. Thanks Barry for showing the details of this in operation and the potential savings of time! Manual machinists rely on the feedback of machine dial "feel" and spindle sound but mainstream CNC has been slow to adopt realtime strategies that account for spindle and axis servo load, vibration, and current consumption.

  • @KylieGranno
    @KylieGranno 2 місяці тому +8

    This new ACM feature from Siemens is AWESOME! Good stuff Barry!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop you will see all kinds of turning

    • @joseignaciolopezangulo3793
      @joseignaciolopezangulo3793 Місяць тому

      This application is not new, it has been on the market for more than 20 years.

  • @BrilliantDesignOnline
    @BrilliantDesignOnline 2 місяці тому +5

    ACM-Air Combat Maneuvering; Barry is Top Gun. Donnie, going down in flames?

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому +1

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @levihoff7923
    @levihoff7923 2 місяці тому

    I've seen this option for software like CGTech Vericut but never on a machine control based on torque values. Very Cool!

  • @markdavis304
    @markdavis304 2 місяці тому +3

    Dope feature! Great tip Barry!👏

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @user-pr2sn8oo4j
    @user-pr2sn8oo4j 2 місяці тому

    Glad to see you,Barry! We need more chips!!

  • @trevorgoforth8963
    @trevorgoforth8963 2 місяці тому +4

    Boom to you as well sir! Great video!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @shawnfee9107
    @shawnfee9107 2 місяці тому +2

    So it's basically Vericut Force built into the control. That's pretty dope.

  • @davegill8634
    @davegill8634 2 місяці тому +2

    Amazing Technology ! 👍

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @jackalvee1927
    @jackalvee1927 2 місяці тому

    yall missing out 75% not subscribed thats wild these guys spittin straight facts, I strive to be in a similar position

  • @adammiller4879
    @adammiller4879 2 місяці тому +7

    I just got a whole new respect for Siemens control, I will seriously be bringing this up to management.

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @canadianalabai2836
    @canadianalabai2836 2 місяці тому +3

    I used to run Siemens 840d converter in 2007 and loved it

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @joshgeckles5533
    @joshgeckles5533 2 місяці тому +6

    On break now about to get back to machining

    • @glennprivee639
      @glennprivee639 2 місяці тому

      Real

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @joshgeckles5533
      @joshgeckles5533 2 місяці тому

      In the shop I work in we make parts that require micro tools but only as big as a 14.5 OD wheel hub I make for big red lifts by Taylor.

  • @pratapsinhzala4875
    @pratapsinhzala4875 2 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @donbotting5700
    @donbotting5700 2 місяці тому +5

    Incredible! I love Siemens controls!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @donniehinske
    @donniehinske 2 місяці тому +2

    Nice!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @Vankel83
    @Vankel83 2 місяці тому +1

    When doing production and using. It's like being done the end of the day instead of coming in the next day and running more parts till lunchtime.

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @danielhertz7266
    @danielhertz7266 24 дні тому

    You'll never get me to touch a seimens controller for the rest of my machinist life.

  • @rykkuuu
    @rykkuuu 2 місяці тому

    have you guys tried out the siemens nx cad/cam software?

  • @kitesquid
    @kitesquid 2 місяці тому +1

    I'm subscribed

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @user-mn4ee8vf9g
    @user-mn4ee8vf9g 2 місяці тому

    But sometimes customer has inquiry how to manage the optimized cutting condition not just real time adjustment.

  • @TheDartblockstang
    @TheDartblockstang 2 місяці тому

    Being that you guys listened when I told you years ago to get a tornos. Now it's time I think you guys get a yazda.

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @TheDartblockstang
      @TheDartblockstang 2 місяці тому

      @@Lathe.Lab-vc3td lathes of parts?

  • @bloodragefromnorway
    @bloodragefromnorway 2 місяці тому +4

    wooh!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @christof563
    @christof563 Місяць тому

    Is it possible to use ACM in a Shopturn program too?

  • @houstonsigmund2550
    @houstonsigmund2550 2 місяці тому +1

    I cant find this on my Tormach?

  • @dougmills4973
    @dougmills4973 2 місяці тому +1

    Boom!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому +1

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

  • @monsieurb24
    @monsieurb24 2 місяці тому

    acm= feed optimization and cut the cut air, nice feature. do you think cloud NC make a difference???

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому +1

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @monsieurb24
      @monsieurb24 2 місяці тому

      just need to keep creative with the issue ;)@@Lathe.Lab-vc3td

  • @BinaryBlueBull
    @BinaryBlueBull 2 місяці тому +1

    Does anyone know the drum & bass track playing during cutting footage and at the end of the video? Shazam sadly doesn't know it. Example at 3:57 and at the end at 5:02. Please help, good people of youtube or if someone from Titans reads this, perhaps the editor could tell me which song they used?
    [edit]
    Found it! It's "Full Train - Dreem"

  • @RealNotallGaming
    @RealNotallGaming 2 місяці тому

    the real question is
    you can add FEED ?
    because from what i saw, TITANS go always at 100%
    i know i know is roughing pass but as TITANS said, to be better and work with the best, you CANT run or the client will not accept the pieces (was like a video about inconel and lockeed? about true feed rate and best parameters to be considered machinist and just not metal farmers with a shovel called end mill. LoL)

  • @seancollins9745
    @seancollins9745 2 місяці тому

    Ok, so , time to retrofit my machines with Siemens controls,

  • @jamessmith1190
    @jamessmith1190 Місяць тому

    My question is how much accuracy is lost using this feature

  • @user-ui4yx2kq1d
    @user-ui4yx2kq1d 2 місяці тому

    Can macron adjust it??😊

  • @thebonermaker
    @thebonermaker 2 місяці тому

    1 minute saved on a part for a run of 500,000 is an entire year.

  • @harbitude
    @harbitude 2 місяці тому

    That's great now all we need is a million dollar machine, now what does the other 99% of machine shops use to speed up cycle times?????

  • @aeromorte
    @aeromorte 2 місяці тому

    What about the change of tool life?

    • @iopfarmer
      @iopfarmer 2 місяці тому +1

      This is the good question. it dépends of the material you use. the wear/feed fonction is différent for each material.

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC 2 місяці тому

      tool life will go up in some cases bc it is keep the same chip. in ACM there is also tool monitoring as well

  • @rogersmith8480
    @rogersmith8480 2 місяці тому +3

    👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @green_pc_reaper994
    @green_pc_reaper994 2 місяці тому

    Why do i have the feeling that this is faster than the 40yo manual mill I use?

  • @user-jc6eh9tn4c
    @user-jc6eh9tn4c 2 місяці тому

    My name is Barry and i am Flash ;)

  • @cskovach
    @cskovach 2 місяці тому

    Obviously when you set up ACM and enter in your allowable overrides, you're not going to do that blind. You have to prove out the recipes for your tool and know what you can get away with in whatever material you're cutting, how rigid your workholding is, etc.
    If you have all that information when programming the part though, why wouldn't you just program it with those speeds and feeds to begin with? Is there something more advanced going on with the torque monitoring that may not be obvious? As far as I can tell, it seems like it's just looking for low torque situations and applying up to a 50% feed override during those cuts. How does the machine decide how much override to apply, assuming it isn't a binary choice?
    I guess I can see this being useful if you don't want to spend the time taking a couple proof parts and tweaking the program. Gets you to the end result faster with less human involvement.

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @Mikkel.RS.1
      @Mikkel.RS.1 2 місяці тому

      Sometimes if you're on second operations, or pre-existing cast parts- for which you have no current model to rest-machine from, this would be incredibly helpful to adapt a program to its highest speed the second run of it through the control.

  • @BomenJager
    @BomenJager 2 місяці тому +1

    This Knowledge Will Save YOUR BOSS MILLIONS! *

  • @katarzynakacperczyk4659
    @katarzynakacperczyk4659 2 місяці тому +2

    Cool video and machine🫶

  • @highdeluchs909
    @highdeluchs909 2 місяці тому

    Heller germany is just 3km away from where i'm living :(

  • @rb8049
    @rb8049 2 місяці тому

    Your eyelashes!

  • @Coolingexp
    @Coolingexp 2 місяці тому

    track id?

    • @BinaryBlueBull
      @BinaryBlueBull 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, I've asked the same question. Absolutely killer track but sadly Shazam doesn't know it. I hope someone recognizes it or that someone from Titans of CNC reads our comments and asks the editor. UA-cam scans every video for copyrighted music so they have track ID's for any and all music used, they should include this in the description automatically, that would be a veeeery cool feature

    • @BinaryBlueBull
      @BinaryBlueBull 2 місяці тому +1

      Found it! "Full Train - Dreem" is the track

  • @nenadjanjic8070
    @nenadjanjic8070 2 місяці тому

    Heidenhain had this 10 or so years ago ,same as Mazak, nothing new just saying.

  • @arminz8605
    @arminz8605 2 місяці тому

    Why cutting Air? Use rapid ist much faster 😉

  • @user-hh6ol7qb3j
    @user-hh6ol7qb3j 2 місяці тому +1

    ACM = Active Control Monitoring...Not Contour

    • @barrysetzer
      @barrysetzer 2 місяці тому +1

      It's Adaptive Control and Monitoring. If I said it wrong in the video it was just me tripping over words!

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      👏👏👍

  • @user-hh6ol7qb3j
    @user-hh6ol7qb3j 2 місяці тому

    Active Control Monitoring Not Contour

  • @jonbaker3728
    @jonbaker3728 2 місяці тому

    Remember back when they ran machines relatable to every day machinist? Now they are just doing demo's on million dollar equipment that maybe 1% of people will ever run.
    Yeah, cool ACM feature. Again, for the 90% of the country that uses Fanuc, that doesn't help.
    Sorry, just seems you are preaching to the 0.1% these days. Good luck and happy machining

    • @Minerals333
      @Minerals333 2 місяці тому +2

      Siemens is big in Europe, fanuc is gross 🤢

    • @jonbaker3728
      @jonbaker3728 2 місяці тому

      I agree. I just feel like, if you put the best of the best machines with some of the most expensive tooling, yeah, you can do great stuff. But that is a huge capital investment.
      @@Minerals333

    • @fordhoarder
      @fordhoarder 2 місяці тому +2

      Makino pioneered this feature (a long with several others) on a fanuc control over 2 decades ago.

    • @Lathe.Lab-vc3td
      @Lathe.Lab-vc3td 2 місяці тому

      In my workshop, you will see the lathe of all kinds of parts

    • @MrCNC
      @MrCNC 2 місяці тому +1

      ACM on not a million dollar machine
      ua-cam.com/video/_UNbpvfmK-E/v-deo.html