EVERYONE Does THIS Wrong: STOP Talking and Show Me
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For my newest job (electrical engineering and hardware design) I just walked in with a bunch of drawings I made and a custom made briefcase with foam padding inside containing all the products I designed in the past, custom PCBs, prototypes, demo boards, all this stuff to show what I can do and just got the job instantly, actually I worked at this company before as a part timer when I was about 18 and the company owner told me he wanted to hire me full time even back then, he did not even really need to see all the stuff I brought for the interview in detail, when he saw I had something to show he instantly knew how to decide. I have never had to make a resume for any of my past jobs, I always showed my skill and knowledge in person, I showed my enthusiasm, I was confident and all this always landed me the job. So I think in the industry, either metal industry, or electronics industry, whatever, it really is just about the skill and knowladge you show (this of course is not the same for other jobs, like a surgeon or something like that), but if you want to succeed in the industry, just go for it and show what you can do.
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My company has a sister organization called Alliance for working together. Unfortunately, they fall into making blocks with holes. I am 2 1/2 years into the apprenticeship after machining for more then years. Even though they scrapped every part idea we started since I’ve started, my one story is we were making a little vise and we fortunately Harvi 1 TE end mills and I ran it smack dab in the middle of the SFM kennametal recommends with their FPT. I chose my tool path via fusion and my program took 3 minutes to machine the slots. The teacher program was 47 minutes and the other apprentice im competing with’s program is as 48 minutes. You guys were the inspiration for this.
Man in my school don’t have even one CNC machine even though they educate this profession!💀
I wish to have the opportunity to get more practice experience in cnc machining.
I love the joy and enthusiasm you all have for this industry.
In so many interviews I have offered to show them what I can do because I agree with this so much. Trades are the only jobs where you can prove your skill but everyone wants to hire off of resumes. I think companies look at a role they have to fill and then look for a machinist rather than seeing a machinists skill and potential then creating the job where they can grow around them.
Been talking about Titans since I started MTT at OCC Auburn Hills. I hope I am finally getting through on it and I've done several certs on my own and they have been so helpful in educating me.
Love what Gabe is doing for all the young kids in Michigan! 👏 Super cool to see all these schools implementing the TITANS academies!
Gabe and Titan are monumental to the future of our trade
I basically showed up with two parts I made during training.
The people that hired me have no clue how to operate a CNC mill or lathe.
But when they saw the parts, they know "we need to hire this guy".
Fast forward 2 years, and run a production of 50K+ parts a year.
This is soooo good! And love the old school footage! 🔥Thank you Gabe for your dedication and mentorship to your students, OUR next generation of machinists!
Gabe is awesome! This is a great video, I love seeing the way the younger generation is picking up the industry, make manufacturing great!!!
It's awesome how you've been able to take your knowledge and trade, and further teach the new generation!
I did something similar to get my last job. I couldn't bring in a few $100K 800 lb valve bodies that run at 40K psi. I hand programmed each one at the machine and made 1 of 1 each. I took some pictures of my work and passed them around during my interview. They were floored! They had never seen anyone show thier work in an interview. I got the job and have been happily employed for 3 years.
My only issue is all the parts I’ve programmed/made fall under I.T.A.R clearance.
same, any pictures taken anywhere for any reason is an instant walkout by armed security and maybe an investigation
Bring this teaching to the air capital in Wichita Ks. We lack the experience and drive to become what we once were.
i used to live their....
I am a high school teacher. We really do need help from guys like you on how to help our students.
Dont forget about inspection skills, Micrometers and bore gages require a special "feel" to operate and get proper results
Love what you guys are doing!
"Let's see a sample of your work."
"Let's see a sample of your money."
As a self taught amateur machinist, I got the most interesting reaction from a company that does drawing of metal tubing. I showed up to pick up an order for a custom product line, and brought with me one of my small production drawing dies. I had questions I was hoping their engineers, machinists or operators could answer. I asked the questions without presenting the die. I got a lot of nothing from all involved. I then produced the die and the parts created from the die, and all of a sudden the room was full of people, all asking questions of me. Apparently die drawing tubing is something of a "black magic" kinda thing and the people involved don't like to give away secrets. The shop made tooling, and parts produced with it opened the flood gates. I got a load of good information that day and even a job offer, which was not within my ability to accept (wish I had done that now)
People... bring your work to interviews. I turn down new programmers because they have nothing to show and their college diploma is nearly worthless, these days. Show me projects where you solved a problem, did something innovative or just brute force made something work. That will get you hired a load faster than "I have a BS from "
me as a diesel mechanic and seeing what CNC does its just friggin sweet. makes me think about repsecing but maybe not yet. i need to start teaching myself CAD.
My last job involved making very precise parts from very tough materials, All programmed at the machine with mazatrol. Fortunately I was allowed to take pictures of my work provided they didn't reach the internet. I actually made prints to take on interviews to show the work I was capable of doing since I couldn't bring any of the parts.
Great job guys!
Titan you are SO on point!!!!!! I love your inspiration and your message! My son (15) Just started a Tec in school. The teacher gave them a project and he fired up Fusion on his lap top and started molding it came home and 3d printed it and we CNC made the meatal parts and he presented it a week later on Monday thinking that's when it was due. They had a month to make it. His teacher was blown away. He is years ahead of the other kids. He gets excited about this stuff and I've just started to introduce him to the CNC but he is picking it up fast.
Titan you’re the best. This BS happened to me over 2 decades ago..I got to that interview first everybody else were interviewed with a resume and words but when my time time came they literally asked me to run a part but unbeknownst to ‘em they put me on a Okuma machine that I helped student’s with at a community college in Houston..I blew their minds out but when they offered me the job I turned it down..their vibes was bad..but thank goodness today there are a lot of minorities now working at that company..thanks for sharing Titan..hopefully a lot of owners listens and watch this video. Anyone can make up a resume but you cannot hide from what you really know and can do.
I agree that taking a portfolio is way stronger than taking a resume. I can’t take pictures or parts at my job but I’ll still make a portfolio to prove I have the skills.
Ive said this to my apprentices so many times. A portfolio with a ton of diverse work in will give a much better chance at getting high end jobs in engineering and machining than any good cv or resume
Love it!
What I did is a made an 3 page portfolio that I put with my resume
Front page was some foto’s of cool parts that I made (which I can tell something about during the intervieuw) and with those 3 pages I showd 3 different parts) with pictures) and I explained what was challanging about that part and how I solved those problems
I pretty much got hired on the spot and I am the highest payed programmer/machinist in that shop (they agreed with my salary if I did not discuss it with co-workers :p )
I think the most schools struggle with budgets, so doing alot of parts is not viable for the schools also they try to preserve all the tools.
Love the idea of actual parts made as a 3D resume suggest that programn for each part on a dongle/thumb drive next to each part. If you can explain your programn to employer for the part it will take your idea to another level (imagine how you would react if new prospect brought actual part and programn to interview) for a very small investment and you will have tech. for future reference ot students fingertips. Ray Stormont
Truth be told....let's go
show me what you can make. easy to say for someone with a camera running , im too busy to take pictures of all the jobs i do and honestly some of them are so mundane i dont even wanna share them
im not on cnc btw
Many many years ago I had a nice shop, 65 machinist and programmers. Sold it after receiving an offer I could not turn down. When I hired programmers I would 1099 them for a weeks work. I would have them program and run parts of low skill to the upper end. I had to see just what they could do, not what the resume told me what they could do
Hey man I don't know if you guys just haven't ever worked in shops that have had them but you should really introduce the public to Toshiba CNC machines.
They are monsters and are arguably the most robust and reliable machines on the market and have been for years.
Anyways my 2 cents you guys should introduce the viewers to toshiba
Go to work on time, work honestly, don't lie, do something "extra" for the company for free, the ability to sacrifice yourself for the team, learn, improve and never stop! and if the company is good, they will definitely help you on your way and they will also pay you well ! But it is also true, that there are many companies, where you should not develop your experience, because they do not deserve you !
Never think that you know everything, but admit that you are wrong, or that someone knows something better than you! because sometimes behind the imaginary communication "barrier" there is a great "well of knowledge" :) and sometimes a person will give you advice from whom you would never expect it :)
thanks to the internet, we have an incredible number of possibilities to become very experienced and sometimes it's all free :)
Literally one of the worst things you can do is to walk around acting like youre better than all the old employees at the place you just started - or that from the first day you act like everything is a competition.
Also, if youre really new to this trade dont think you can hide your mistakes. Im not saying everyone should walk around telling everyone about the f-up they just did - but dont come asking for help and not give the full story.
@@innominatum9906 Absolutely !
Yes I said it..
if i want to take the parts i make to a interview we gonna need a big crane😝
Look at this! I made this from my previous employer's machine without their knowledge so i can get a better portfolio for prospective jobs. 😅
Boom !
What kinda of advice can u give me. Im bored at ny job. We do basic boring parts. Id leave but im comfortable. Ive been there for 14 years and i kust turned 40. I just dont see them producing anything that would keep me excited about the trade. Im also in Michigan
Maybe… just keep learning and pushing forward. Also, look at all companies and opportunities within driving range. Go on interviews just for fun if it seems interesting. Ask good questions about the type of parts and vision of the company etc. learning opportunities etc.
Then jump when your gut tells you to.
Did you see our link for Blue Origin on our website? They are hiring another 100 machinists and Huntsville is ranked 2nd in the Nation to raise a family etc.
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@@TITANSofCNC I'll have to check it out. Thank you for the response!
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Well my problem is that most of the parts that I have made is so small that it don't make sense to have a case to bring it with me and the rest of them is big that I need at minimum heavy-duty forklift to bring them no joke
Make a sweet machined small box to hold your tiny parts.
Create a free CNC EXPERT profile and upload images of your projects then share with potential employers 👍
I do Swiss work. I keep my sample parts in a tube that a 1/8 end mill would come it. That box has about 25 parts in it. It's landed me two jobs including my current one. During my interview at my current shop I had for the box in my car. At one point he was asking me about programming and what I had done in the past. I asked him to wait a minute. I ran out to my car and got the box. I slid it across the table to him. Told him that every part in the box I had programmed, set up and run. Most of them were hand written programs at the time. He took me out to the shop floor for a quick tour. Before I even left he told me to keep an eye on my email for their offer. 5 years later I'm still there.
The only issue with this is that it's kinda hard getting parts you've made once you're in a facility. I can't exactly ask my boss to shut down the machines for a few hours while I make a demo part, or asking if I can have a sample part to take with me to interviews. Do you guys have any advice on that?
Ask your boss if you can continue to learn and practice making parts outside of work hours. Any half decent boss will encourage you to continue to learn..
@markdavis304 Not mine, I need to make parts as quickly as I can and only press the green button. No questions, learn required minimum and don't crash the machine. They don't care about anything else. So unless I buy my own cnc lathe the best part I can bring is 3d printed one...
@@Kridre if you know something you will become more expensive and the profit goes down on the parts.. :)
School is great but I believe in self teaching. On the job training.😊
Exactly. Training and education on the job that is real, not theoretical book knowledge and staged simple parts in shop class.
Ai programming and modeling coming soon. No payroll tax, no payroll.
Any one near Cambridge MN that wants to work? We are looking for entry level people to train. Fox engineering LLC.
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Schools aren't supposed to teach someone an entire industry, I understand the frustration that they are barely teaching and are rewarding the basics but.....COMPANIES need to up their game on training, managers who expect Einstein to turn up at their door and happily accept $10 an hour have to get real. Training is vital, show me your company has quality systems in place for progression and job security, why would they waste time doing their best work with you if you're gonna throw them out afterwards. ''urgh this guy doesn't know how to make this part, i can do it in 5 minutes''. anyone can do CNC, you gotta manage your expecations, its what a manager does.
Love to see this! In my program the instructors have started to involve more of the titans parts on top of the state required stuff. We have even been able to get CAD/CAM into the state competitions