SHANGHAI BIKE SHOW DAY 3: New Tavelo Frame, Crazy Wheel Tech, and $300 bikes...

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  • Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
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    00:00 Intro
    00:22 Tavelo Arow
    02:30 Pertual Sharp
    04:30 Pertual Triathlon Wheels
    05:50 Pertual Concept Wheel
    07:20 PandaPodium.cc
    07:42 LYKOS Bikes
    08:35 JAVA Bikes
    10:25 ELVES Amanyar
    11:00 CYBREI
    12:00 ZUATU Carbon Shoes
    12:55 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 163

  • @ariffau
    @ariffau Місяць тому +10

    1:19 that paintjob on the Tavelo is gorgeous !!!

  • @jonathan_f2
    @jonathan_f2 Місяць тому +16

    The Java stuff looks the most interesting to me. I'd definitely like to see more coverage on mid-tier equipment that's on the affordable side.

    • @cybertonto72
      @cybertonto72 Місяць тому

      I had to go look at the Java frames after hearing the price !
      £1,284.00GBP for full bike with 105

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah, I have a soft spot for the super affordable stuff... it just all comes down to their distribution model.

    • @cybertonto72
      @cybertonto72 Місяць тому +1

      @@ChinaCycling I am sure that if you can get these and sell them at this price they would sell.

  • @elleffeff
    @elleffeff Місяць тому +30

    The Chinese manufacturers seems to be way more creative than their western and Taiwanese counterparts. Some risky paint jobs but NOT boring.

    • @realmagnetics799
      @realmagnetics799 Місяць тому +4

      What do you mean creative. Everything in that show was copied from western brands. Drop seat-stays, aero frames, waved rims, grouped spokes…I could go on and on. New doesn’t mean creative.

    • @DDai-qd8uk
      @DDai-qd8uk Місяць тому +2

      China number one!

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +17

      By this logic, every "western" brand copied an "eastern" brand. GIANT invented compact road bike geometry that every western brand uses now...

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Місяць тому

      @@ChinaCycling that's true about giant but I'm sure I read that giant was inspired by the lower seat tube that was seen in bmx frames at that time. Some newer frames have partially gone back to a horizontal top tube of old days whilst retaining the compact angles.

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Місяць тому +2

      @@realmagnetics799 Innovative or inventive' that's not what comes to mind with Chinese bike/parts manufacturers and a lot of new comers into the modern bicycle manufacturing. It's very hard to be ground breaking in what is essentially just a basic transport machine that's been around for so long. I think they are trying to be creative, to try new materials or ways to better existing designs but I'm seeing only alternatives with sometimes lower price tags but uncertainty over longevity hangs heavy in my mind.

  • @lemonshire1
    @lemonshire1 Місяць тому +11

    Tavelo is definitely doing things right, would love to see them become more popular as a result of PP

  • @daviddjerassi
    @daviddjerassi Місяць тому +9

    Wow your voice held up the $300 Java bike man they will; sell like hot cakes thank you for another exciting video Joe.

  • @paulhewitt1488
    @paulhewitt1488 Місяць тому +7

    The best thing is YOU mate. You’re doing a great job. Keep the great content coming 👍👍

  • @Cycle.every.day.
    @Cycle.every.day. Місяць тому +1

    I bought my first chinese bike frame in 2009, it was a bmc copy, i was happy with it back then and the quality and carbon expertise in that part of the world has only moved forward since.

  • @klein-concept
    @klein-concept Місяць тому +4

    Love it. Wicked show man. Thanks for covering it all in almost real time 🤜🤛

  • @prrace8599
    @prrace8599 Місяць тому +1

    Ha! Great work today. I especially love how you ended the video- “Oh shit!” Priceless

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      I don't wanna sound like a crybaby, but it's exhausting. By the third day, your brain is toast.

  • @OboistRoy
    @OboistRoy Місяць тому

    thank you for the usual great content! Love my Pertual Sharp 6270 wheels. I use them on my time trial bike. stiff, great inertia and momentum, and good looking aesthetics

  • @martinandre9096
    @martinandre9096 Місяць тому

    Great Video with interesting things!and The Java Aluminium frames looks great. Thank you for the content!

  • @vongdong10
    @vongdong10 Місяць тому +2

    OMG, those tavelo paintjobs are amazing.

  • @SuperDodoe
    @SuperDodoe Місяць тому +6

    love your superfly shades

  • @user-zm9gc1kt8b
    @user-zm9gc1kt8b Місяць тому

    All that good stuff !
    Love it mate

  • @TheCyclesport
    @TheCyclesport Місяць тому

    Nice Glasses Joe! Very stylish & great video content again!!

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Haha, Thanks. Credit to Pit Viper for the cool glasses...

  • @jsselman
    @jsselman Місяць тому

    The paint jobs on the Tavelo frames are awesome.

  • @Natuh21
    @Natuh21 Місяць тому +1

    2:00 OMFG whats is this piece of art! Crazy looking red and gold paint job, thats definitely the one I would pick if I could afford it lol, talking about affordability those Java bikes are perfect 😍

  • @malcontent510
    @malcontent510 Місяць тому +1

    More great coverage; thanks Joe! Those affordabe alloy frames/bikes by *_Java_* look very interesting. Hopefully they, or someone else, will bring similar options in the USA.

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +2

      Yup, I think you'll see Java, Sava etc pushing into the west soon.

  • @joehiatt1992
    @joehiatt1992 Місяць тому

    Awesome show & thanx,its candyland...also looks like theres gonna be a HUGE shakeup to the current bike market,look out Giant,Specialized,mavic & many others..bought 2 sets of LTwoo & so far its awesome,now waiting for rim version

  • @ynslife
    @ynslife Місяць тому +1

    Another great vid. But Joe your sunglasses are wild tho 😂

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Lots of comments about my shades, lol. Pit Viper need to hook me up...

  • @olo398
    @olo398 Місяць тому +6

    That Alu Java sprint frame looks dope. Do they do frame only?

  • @Storm4155
    @Storm4155 Місяць тому

    NIce camerawork on the Java stand............someone had to mention it!

  • @petermitchel952
    @petermitchel952 Місяць тому +1

    Campy pioneered the 2:1 spoke arrangement years ago... and spinoff Fulcrum. Is a good design.

  • @rolandcolavizza5368
    @rolandcolavizza5368 Місяць тому +1

    i like the Java bike ,looks like a great starter bike , or even a good training bike

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss Місяць тому

    I like those Aura frames -- hydroformed aluminum, I presume? Anchor (Bridgestone) did a primitive version of this for cromoly tubes, and allowed for built-in lugs that gave very strong silver-brazed joints. Their RCN-7 frame was the last one to do this, IIRC.

  • @sofialofstrand6618
    @sofialofstrand6618 Місяць тому +1

    Some great paintjobs there! I wonder whjy there don't seem to be many endurance geometry frames being presented?

  • @tailswinsmore5054
    @tailswinsmore5054 Місяць тому +12

    $2500 bike frames?? Theres a Trek store down the street...
    Great video.

  • @neilwheel
    @neilwheel Місяць тому +1

    I'll take the classy red tavelo 😊

  • @greglunderstedt3898
    @greglunderstedt3898 Місяць тому

    Nice hunting goggles bro!

  • @BrianMcDonald
    @BrianMcDonald Місяць тому

    I would like to see a dark paint scheme with the Tavelo with a pinstripe logo in silver like that one light frame has.

  • @JuneScapula
    @JuneScapula Місяць тому +4

    I need a pink Tavelo Arrow 😮

  • @brankosabol
    @brankosabol Місяць тому +4

    That Trident wheel looks like it was designed by H.R. Geiger.

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss Місяць тому +1

      The leading edge bumps are inspired by the leading edge of whale fins, and supposedly reduce turbulence. They do for whales, anyway...

    • @pmcmpc
      @pmcmpc Місяць тому

      @@ericpmoss I don't think it works for wheels (rotation). Hence Ganna hour record bike having them - wheels not.

  • @hbade
    @hbade Місяць тому +4

    The Pertual concept wheels are so cool! I don’t care for the hub design in how it hampers servicing, but the rim shape, spoke pattern and count are incredible!

    • @waynelim9866
      @waynelim9866 Місяць тому

      +1 on this! Really cool concept

    • @8paolo96
      @8paolo96 Місяць тому

      Instead I find them just quite ugly, I like my wheels to be just round😅, but with very brave design choices there will always be diverging opinions

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      Interested to see how the final thing turns out...

  • @Grant-bu4nj
    @Grant-bu4nj Місяць тому +1

    I’m interested in a Tavelo Arrow

  • @estelja
    @estelja Місяць тому +3

    Pertual concept wheel: if Salvador Dali was a wheel designer.

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      I had to Google that one... haha. Accurate though.

  • @leon7775
    @leon7775 Місяць тому

    rips help the airflow to stay attached. In future we will see those a lot on frames too. but for now its hard to manufacture

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino Місяць тому +2

    "I do like my pink."

  • @mrmarktucker
    @mrmarktucker Місяць тому

    Great video! Where do I get those sick shades you’re rocking?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Hey Mark - Check out Pit Viper's website.

  • @marccheckpoint5353
    @marccheckpoint5353 Місяць тому +3

    Your mouth is on speed X2😮

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      Too much to see, can't waste time. Haha.

  • @robbieroockley3664
    @robbieroockley3664 Місяць тому

    How to get some of those shoes? Googled and can’t find them! 🎉

  • @ericpmoss
    @ericpmoss Місяць тому

    The rib-like bits on the Pertual Trident spokes are inspired by the leading edge of whate fins. The claim is they cut turbulence and reduce overall drag. Well, they do for whales, at least...

  • @rascal1234
    @rascal1234 Місяць тому

    That burgandy is nice. I am leaning torward the Seka though.

  • @benhardwick1970
    @benhardwick1970 Місяць тому

    That Java alloy bike looks great! I’m still using my cannondale CAAD 10 for racing but if it rides half as good as it looks then I’d be interested in getting a frame set

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      Yup, My CAAD10 and my Allez Sprint are still 2 of my fav bikes

    • @seer-9126
      @seer-9126 Місяць тому +1

      Java alloy bikes are quite heavy and uncomfortable. They are not high-performance bikes but are aimed at beginners who wants a cool-looking aero road bike. They are nowhere comparable to Cannondale or Specialized alloy frames, even the caad12 from 8 years ago is still better. Giant contend and scr are bikes with more similar performance

  • @GOmotorsports
    @GOmotorsports Місяць тому +2

    These brands really need to get rid of the huge branding on the down tube.

  • @Speedy.V
    @Speedy.V Місяць тому

    Rear gravel suspension frames. I saw one in the chinertown forums. Can You look for that in the show?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      I have one in for review... will be on the channel later

  • @Ghostina1
    @Ghostina1 Місяць тому

    Tavero in Purple/Green

  • @hucklejoko4838
    @hucklejoko4838 Місяць тому +1

    Joe can we sometime get a story of what happened to your relationship with winspace? i got the slc 2.0 rim mainly because of you and hambini. I'm sad you aren't covering them anymore.

  • @Z64025
    @Z64025 Місяць тому

    When will the new Tavelo aero frame be available on Pandapodium? What is its tire clearance? Thanks

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      32mm, coming before the end of the month!

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 Місяць тому

    Nice tech. Great video. What's the website for the shoes? Interested in the lace up model.

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      www.zuatu.com/en/

    • @Gabrielle4870
      @Gabrielle4870 Місяць тому

      ​@ChinaCycling there are only 2 models on their page. Happy to see them making narrow shoes... definitely keen for narrow lace ups!

  • @bobareturned
    @bobareturned Місяць тому

    Would love to know if wheeltop is there and your thoughts

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      They were there, nothing new since Taipei so didnt cover them...

  • @tn9274
    @tn9274 Місяць тому

    so the trend for wheel is now all wavy and jaggered. and for new bike frame brand, throw in all flashy paint job.

  • @qwertyazerty2137
    @qwertyazerty2137 Місяць тому

    If domestic market swallows up most of ltwoo's supply, could this be the reason why their new 2024 mechanical road brifters are not on sale, i.e. on aliexpress? I saw only the 7-speed R2 brifters on offer.

  • @Chazz4804
    @Chazz4804 Місяць тому

    Want to know more about Lykos, looks nice and good weight

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      They're working on the western distribution

  • @moodyedge4355
    @moodyedge4355 Місяць тому

    1:10 "Anything but ordinary".

  • @87togabito
    @87togabito Місяць тому

    Any chance a person outside the Chinese market could find out more and purchase the Pertual Triathlon wheel combo?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Send us a message on the site (Panda Podium) will be coming soon...

  • @renegadeflyer2
    @renegadeflyer2 Місяць тому

    Tbe psint jobs are the only thing that sparked my interest.

  • @ergunismail3165
    @ergunismail3165 Місяць тому

    hi, like your socks, where can we buy these socks

  • @Montrealcycling
    @Montrealcycling Місяць тому

    Hey china cycling! Tavelo makes rim brake wheels but no rim brake frame?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Correct. Rim brakes are dying out so fast...

  • @helmutkok7833
    @helmutkok7833 Місяць тому

    The Elves bike is a Tribike it can't get UCI approved a still looks good

  • @Single_Speed_Steve
    @Single_Speed_Steve Місяць тому

    Are most of the wheels at the show hooked or hookless?

  • @daviddang82
    @daviddang82 Місяць тому

    How come no details or specs on the Tavelo arrow frame?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Specs are on our website. It was a long day, and I blanked.

  • @Oscar-uv2xo
    @Oscar-uv2xo Місяць тому

    hey! any carbon handlebar you recommend from taobao?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      EXS, Avians and Farsports are all reliable enough for me to sell on panda podium.

    • @Oscar-uv2xo
      @Oscar-uv2xo Місяць тому

      Thanks man , I live in shenzhen you shoud come and ride with us! @@ChinaCycling

  • @elviracatherinetalaoc2070
    @elviracatherinetalaoc2070 Місяць тому

    Tavelo reminds me of Caledonia 5

  • @lawrencefalk8714
    @lawrencefalk8714 Місяць тому +2

    The Chinese bike industry is definately maturing in that they now have credible (and beautiful) high and low end bikes. But, what puzzles me is that their aren't any Chinese tire brands (tubeless or otherwise) to speak of (at least being marketed to the US or Europe). Why?

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Місяць тому +1

      CST or Chen Shin tyres are Chinese i believe and perhaps Kenda.

    • @tongkaiqian374
      @tongkaiqian374 Місяць тому

      they dont have a lot margin to sponsor the world tour team

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      Yeah.. I'd love some good value tires. If we're talking "Asian tires" MAXXIS are pretty good...

    • @youtubechangemynamewhy
      @youtubechangemynamewhy Місяць тому

      They are all Taiwanese bland

  • @karlmustermann6005
    @karlmustermann6005 Місяць тому

    For the shoes can someone tell me pls the www address?

  • @maloran98
    @maloran98 Місяць тому

    Does anyone the brand/model of the seatpost bag that is attached to the JAVA bike at 9:30 ?

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      The woman on the booth said it was their own model...

    • @maloran98
      @maloran98 Місяць тому

      Thank you! It looks neat, hopefully they'll release it in the future.

  • @thethelostjs
    @thethelostjs Місяць тому

    bafang and dengfu booths please

  • @joeteo6536
    @joeteo6536 Місяць тому

    No winspace products?

    • @rogersliu1200
      @rogersliu1200 Місяць тому

      tavelo is a spin-off from winspace

  • @silviugheorghe7118
    @silviugheorghe7118 Місяць тому

    No winspace at this big expo???😐

  • @wangelite5279
    @wangelite5279 Місяць тому +1

    What does tavelo mean? Should call it Sirvelo

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      I thought it meant "your bike" - could be wrong though.....

  • @pibil8052
    @pibil8052 Місяць тому +1

    don't forget about people with wide feet. hope those shoe will be available monster feet with six toes

  • @the.communist
    @the.communist Місяць тому

    Whats the point for the chinese to bring up products at the same price as western brands?

  • @invisiblescout6335
    @invisiblescout6335 Місяць тому +1

    The pertual tri wheel isn't unique at all, general shape is basically a princeton trispoke
    Do tavelo actually do any real development or are they just selling rebranded open mold frames like winspace? Because both tavelo frames were on the adapt website, the attack is gone now but the arow is still up there. So who actually developed that bike?
    shoes look nice, but buying a shoe before trying it is a fool's errand

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      They develop the frames then offer them to other brand customers, but this time the demand for the Tavelo stuff is so much, they probably wont offer to other brand customers.

    • @pmcmpc
      @pmcmpc Місяць тому +2

      They're Adapt catalogue frames. You can get the Attack for 40% less direct from them, if you're in some markets.

    • @invisiblescout6335
      @invisiblescout6335 Місяць тому

      @@ChinaCycling so it's adapt developing the bikes then, Tavelo are just slapping on their branding and marketing department does the rest? When I buy from them, am I paying for the product or the brand?
      I know theyre very popular domestically, on social media and have a lot of team sponsorships so the marketing dept. must be getting money from somewhere.

  • @FunMushizzle
    @FunMushizzle Місяць тому

    Soon carbon fiber will be so stiff we can use it to hold up the entire planet!

  • @goldenretriever6261
    @goldenretriever6261 Місяць тому

    They need to come up with better names.

  • @albandb9366
    @albandb9366 Місяць тому

    Insane Chinese

  • @charlesmansplaining
    @charlesmansplaining Місяць тому +1

    Wheel design is tanking if you ask me. Those wavy designs look stupid and I could care less about performances if indeed there are any to be had. I'd never put a set of them on my bikes.

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому

      I'm not a fan of wavy designs either

  • @pmcmpc
    @pmcmpc Місяць тому +1

    The pricing on the new Tavelo is whack. For an Adept catalogue frame it's nuts.

  • @alexamerri2
    @alexamerri2 Місяць тому +3

    Pertual basically copyng the spoke patterns of Campagnolo Bora wheels. Just own up to it.

    • @justinkase8716
      @justinkase8716 Місяць тому

      That’s ok, the patent expired in 2021

    • @ChinaCycling
      @ChinaCycling  Місяць тому +1

      Everyone in the bike industry copies Campagnolo... even Shimano. (Groupsets..)

  • @gordonlevine2143
    @gordonlevine2143 Місяць тому

    Anything but ordinary paint job .

  • @seraph4581
    @seraph4581 Місяць тому

    I love the chinese bike industry. It's so much more fun and exiciting than the bland, sterile and overpriced big western brands.

  • @sempi8159
    @sempi8159 Місяць тому +2

    This stuff is getting stupi

    • @borano2031
      @borano2031 Місяць тому

      "Stupi" is stupid. Rgr

  • @jonathanzappala
    @jonathanzappala Місяць тому

    China bike companies still selling things the old fashioned way 😂. The totalitarian society isn’t offended by models, go figure.

  • @dzezydzerk
    @dzezydzerk 11 днів тому

    3k for chinese frame is a bit crazy 😂