Which MICRON sediment WATER FILTER is BEST for my family?
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- Опубліковано 23 жов 2020
- Choosing the best sediment or sand filter for your family shouldn’t be difficult, but what micron do you need? Which one is better, 50, 25, 10, 5 or 1? Is the lower number better or worse? What about an automatic self cleaning filter? I’m going to explain the micron ratings and help you choose which one is best for your family right now!
There are several different micron ratings of sediment filters, waterestore.ca/collections/se... but they all look the same. Choose one that is too dense and you could be restricting your water flow and will require replacement often, choose one that isn’t dense enough and it will not remove bigger sediment to keep your Ultraviolet disinfection system working and you’ll still have too much sediment getting through into your home.
Filters are rated by their ability to remove sediment down to a particular size of microns. So what’s a micron? A micron is one millionth of a meter, but what does that really mean? For example, a human hair is 45 microns in diameter or a red blood cell is 5 microns in size.
When choosing a filter, you really need to know what you’re hoping to accomplish with this filter. If it’s a pre filter for an Ultraviolet light it will need to filter down to a very fine 5 microns. If you’re just thinking about removing some of the particles in your water because they’re clogging the screens going to your washing machine or bathroom faucets, a coarser 20 microns would be fine.
A great solution to get the benefits of both filters is to go with a dual gradient filter waterestore.ca/search?type=pr... like a 50 to 5 which is a very coarse 50 microns on the outside but a much finer 5 microns on the inside.
Another thing to consider is alternatives to polypropylene filter cartridges.
If you have a lot of very coarse sediment in your water and you’re constantly replacing filters you can go with a spin down filter. But keep in ,mind that about the finest they get is 60 microns and you need to maintain these waterestore.ca/search?type=pr...
If you have lots of sand but don’t want to keep manually cleaning the spin down filter waterestore.ca/search?type=pr... you can go with an automatic back washable filter which will remove sediment down to almost 5 microns waterestore.ca/products/hum-a...
If you have multiple needs, like coarse sand, too much sediment and you need to pre filter for a UV light you can use a couple of filters starting at the coarsest filter first in the direction of the water flow going down to the finest filter. If you have a carbon filter in the mix, it would be the last filter because carbon will clog very readily from sediment in your water so you definitely want to get rid of that first!
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They all look the same but only one is right for your family! This video shows you which one.
Which one would be better for wine/beer sedimentation process? will 20 or 30 microns works.
is 0.1 Micron certification possible for any filter? if yes, then is that beneficial or does it even stop the rbeneficial stuff?
Excellent video. True science and no commercial.
Thanks Gary, as always very informative and to the point
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Thanks for the videos Gary, I've learned a lot from watching them. I Just installed a ispring 50 micron sediment filter before the carbon/softener tanks. I have a GE here I just got which is 30 microns.wich will go after the tanks before the house. If the 30 microns doesn't get clogged to bad, I'll go to a 5.
Makes sense to me.
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Thanks! Can you please talk about filters for low pressure water? I have a spring source and a spin down won’t work for me as the first line of defense. Loved your channel
You'll need to add a pump to opressurize otherwise you will never push the water through a filter.
Wow. I just noticed someone actually answers the questions posted in your comment section. That's amazing. Well, I sent an email to the "info" email address listed above, but I thought I would also post it here.
Hi Gary,
Just watched your youtube video on which filter works best for each type of use. Very good by the way.
My big question is how to clean a stainless steel 100 micron filter that's 3/4" diameter and 3 inches long. It's inserted inside a plastic fitting that attaches to the end of a line that's connected to a 55 gal drum where I am catching A/C condensate run off. The fitting has a connector where you can then attach a garden hose.
After a while the filter gets dirty enough to slow down the outflow, and the people who sell it say to just soak it in warm water, which I have done. But it just doesn't seem to get the filter all that clean. I watched a youtube video where they recommended using PBW as a cleane, but I called the manufacturer and they recommended I DON'T use PBW.
Just wondering if you have a recommendation on how to thoroughly clean the filter, or do I just replace it for about $12?
Thanks,
Patrick
Have you tried cleaning it with a soft toothbrush and dawn dishwashing soap?
@@GarytheWaterGuy No, but I will. Thanks
I run a 1 micron then to a .2 micron to remove pathogens. Works great.
I prefer disinfection for killing pathogens.
Love your channel. We have well water and the 10 inch slim line and need help deciding which filter. We have 3 bedroom house. Our water is clear and tastes great but we do see some sand or sediment in bottom of toilet tanks. Not sure if this is happening now or when house first built several months ago. What size micron should we be using, we don’t want sand to damage our pipes or septic. Your help is appreciated.
I would go with one of these waterestore.com/products/copy-of-hum-cottage-pre-filter-kit-10-bb-5005-micron
Gary, first of all: You are awesome and truly professional. I have a question: I am trying to put in the filters for my reverse-osmosis drinking water system. I got the filter system from a friend. I put the Polypropylenfilter (5 Micron) first, then the Granular Activated Carbon Filter. Everything like most other filter systems on the market. But with the 3rd filter, my friend wrote me that I need to put in a 1 Micron Filter). So instead of the Block Carbon Filter like most the other systems have on the market. Do you know what is better for the 3rd stage: Block Carbon Filter or a 1 Micron Filter. I mean the stage right before the water enters the osmosis filter?
Good question. You are better off with the carbon filter than with the 1 micron sediment.
Great video Gary. I have no filtration in my house right now and I am on a well. After cleaning my sink, I can expect to find a some orange deposits around my sink drains after about a week or so. Although I can't really notice too much iron in my water visually, it's definitely there. What micron filter should I purchase to solve this issue? Would it be worth having a spin down filter to go along with a big blue filter in my application? Thanks so much.
I would have your water tested to see how much iron you actually have and how hard your water is.
Great video. One question I was hoping you could answer: I have a reverse osmoses filter as my main filter and a carbon filter as a pre filter. Does it matter if the carbon filter is 5 or 10 microns? i thought the particles of chlorine would pass through 10 micron but not through a 5 micron, however I read the the chlorine added to the water is in a gas shape and the way the carbon filter removes it from the water is by a chemical process instead or particle size separation. I would appreciate your insight on that?
No, it really does not matter if it is 5 or 10.
Thanks for the info. Does any type of filters filter lime, calcium or dissolved lime? I know water softener does it but does any filter do it as well? Also, I was also thinking of pouring in vinegar into the filter cartridge and let it run thru water heater and entire house to clean it once in a while. Not sure if it's a good idea.
Reverse Osmosis also removes hardness but usually only after going through a water softener.
What micron do you think is good for a tankless water heater? Also wondering what kind of filter you think is best to use for those with hard water? Thanks for the videos.
Great questions. 20 micron sediment filter should be good. For hard water you would need a water softener like this one waterestore.com/products/hum-deluxe-water-softener-30-000-grain
Hi Gary! I get my water directly from a spring. The water is already very clear and tastes really good, I've been drinking from that source for about 2 years now and never had any trouble. What is the best way to treat spring water without making it lose its taste and other benefits that it is known for? Is there something else I can add besides a sediment filter and a UV disinfection system? Is a carbon filter necessary for spring water (or anything else)?
I would use a 3 stage UV system with sediment and carbon filters before the UV like this one waterestore.ca/products/hum-safe-water-10gpm-minirack-mr320e-tp2s-220
I'd be interested in learning about how micron size and pressure drop are related (micron size vs psi), along with how going to smaller micron media increases the frequency of filter cleaning (ie does a 5 micron filter require cleaning twice as often as a 10 micron filter). There's always a "price to pay" for going up or down in micron size -- no free lunch here.
There is very little difference in pressure drop based on microns, until they get dirty. The lower the micron number the more quickly they will clog. How much more quickly? Impossible to say as it depends on the size of dirt you are running through it and how much dirt.
do u have a video on hose water filters or have any recommendations of ones that actually work?
Sorry, no I know nothing about hose filters. What are you hoping to use the hose filter for?
Gary, I’m planning on doing a whole home filtration system. I have city water and currently use a whirlpool auto flush 50-30 micron then a water softener, was planning on putting downstream big blues a 30, 10, 5, 1, 0.5, carbon, lead/magnesium, calcite filters. Is this over kill and/or this kill my water pressure? What types of filters would you recommend?
It sounds like overkill but what are you hoping to accomplish?
Hi Gary. I'm on a well in Indiana, and have a problem with smelly water. A plumber came out and tested my water, and found that the smell is manganese, so he recommended the 20 inch filtration system before my water softener. I had a 20 micron filter in at first, but after a few weeks the smell returned. I've upgraded to a 50 micron filter that I changed this morning (with help from one of your other videos). If the smell persists, the plumber recommended "shocking" my well with bleach. Is that what you would recommend as well? Thank you, you've got a new subscriber!
Manganese has no smell and a water softener will remove manganese. Does it smell like rotten eggs? If so you ahve sulphur in your water and you need one of these ua-cam.com/video/CN_n0Qz-z3k/v-deo.html
@@GarytheWaterGuy the water service company tested for sulphur and it was negative. Only tested positive for manganese. I thought it was sulfur as well because the smell is what you described, but I watched them do the water tests. Appreciate any help or advice you can provide. Thanks!
Out of a well I like the idea spin down. I’m constantly going downstairs to my hot tub at least once a day so I could do it easily. Lots of iron in my well water. I have an iron filter, but no filtration before it should I start with 50 µm or larger? I’d like to buy two spin down. I’d like the theory of that no filters to replace just a little maintenance twist every so often is a bank of three overkill?
Yes, you can do that but keep in mind that most iron from well water is dissolved so it will pass right through the spindown filter and you'll still get rusty stains unless you get an iron filter waterestore.com/search?pf_pt_product_type=System&pf_t_system_type=System+Type_Iron+%26+Sulphur&q=iron+filter or at least a water softener waterestore.com/collections/water-softener-1?pf_pt_product_type=System
Hello Gary and thank you for your videos! I'm curious about that clear Spindial filter I think you called it? Where you empty the water from the clear casing. Is that what it's called? Thank you
That is correct. We have them here waterestore.com/search?q=spindown. You manually flush them into a bucket
I looked at it on your site. So it still uses a filter that needs changing like the reg 20 micron? Is the beauty that you don't have to open the casing so it's easier? Also, the 60 seems very high, it's for heavy particles?
So Gary, I am thinking about installing a sediment filter before the city water entering into my water softener machine. Do you think 50 micron is good enough or maybe I needed something with either 20 or lower? You also mentioned spin down sediment water filter, do you recommend this over those regular one?
Than you
Spind down is too coarse for city water. I would use this sediment filter waterestore.ca/products/pentek-filter-10-big-blue-sediment-dgd-2501-25-1-mic-155359-43 in this housing waterestore.ca/products/viqua-awp40b-v-10-bb-filter-housing-free-shipping
Ur the best guy in the whole world! Can I drink water? My water looks kinda dirty though
I don't know if you can drink your water as you would need to have it tested to know if it is potable or not.
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I’ve installed a Aquaboon whole house big three filtration system. I done like you suggested by installing a prefilter see through sediment before it goes into the three big filters. My problem where we live is “Limescale “, the first two filters are just the regular filters and the third filter is the carbon filter. My problem is there’s still limescale in the water. Is there a particular filter that I can buy and install that will remove it from the water system? If you could please offer me some advice on what to do then I would appreciate it. Thanks
You need a water softener like this to remove it waterestore.com/products/hum-deluxe-water-softener-30-000-grain It passes right through sediment and carbon filters.
I have been using a 30 micron then a 10 micron on a well for the past couple years. The filters stay pretty clean and do not clog, pressure drop, even after 18+ months. Is it worth the expense to try a 5 micron as the final filter, replacing the 10 micron? I have a UV sterilizer after the final 10 micron filter and a water softener and calcite tank between the 30 and 10 micron filters.
Yes, you need a 5 micron before the UV
What micron rating should be used for the prefilter sediment filter before the carbon filter?
Typically 5 micron.
Rust baby rust we have lots of rust in our bad well water from the town. You didn't mention rust. So, I have a whole house single 5 micron 20 x 2.5 filter, in the Pentair blue casing. But will changing to a 1 micron be overkill? Will it make filter changes needed too often? It's mainly rust or scale that messes up everything. Will 1 micron reduce my flow a lot? Will 1 micron too easily clog up filters with rust?? I also have a water softener, it's run after the big blue. I installed a new RO under the kitchen sink too, and the first of three filters already looks pretty rusty & bad. Only after installing the RO did I recently install a brand new house water softener.
You need an iron filter like one of the ones in this video ua-cam.com/video/CN_n0Qz-z3k/v-deo.html
Gary how many microns are better in a spin down filter when you have a lot of sand. The water is yellow. Ispring has 50, 100, 200, 500 and 1000. I don't want it to clog too often. This is for venezuela😬
This is what I would recommend. waterestore.ca/products/vu-flo-replacement-filter-100-micron
When installing a new filtration system how do we determine what size filter do we want to install? 2.5 x 10 or 4.5 x 10?
Great question. For whole house typically use the 4.5 x 10 or if you want to change the filters less often 20”
Gonna toss my message into the bottle so to speak.
So I'm gonna be getting a 50m Spin-down ABR, a 5-1m sediment, then a 5-1m carbon using 2 20" BB's (If I can find them in 5m-1m, Haven't decided if I wanna go with a uv yet.) My concern is this is on a Well that runs at 65 psi but isnt exactly a mustang of GPM. Will having three points of filtration, potentially a fourth absolutely murder the pressure for my house?
Edit: Objective here is Iron and Bacterial Iron removal. It isn't heavy but it does stain clothing and porcelain and renders any water unpalatable. There's also sediment and pebbles, but the 50m spindown should grab those. 1m may be entire overkill since there isn't any Chlorine, but may not entirely be unwarranted due to the Iron bacteria.
The best way to get rid of iron bacteria is with a chemical injection system. What you are suggesting will become clogged due to the iron bacteria
Will this apply to a automotive car fuel filter? Thanks
I really don't know.
Hi Gary, How much micron filter is good if you want to purify ground water for drinking?
You will need more than a certain micron filter and it depends on your water analysis for bacteria, iron, tannins and other minerals in the water.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thank you, Gary.
Hello Gary ! I use 1 micron and I change it after every three months ! is the time okay or should I change it sooner?
Good question! If it is not slowing down the flow, it is fine.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thank you !
My house came wait a pentair big blue right before a tankless water heater (navien). Any clue what micron I should use for that kind of filtration? Thanks
I would use this one of these depending on the length waterestore.com/collections/water-softener-1?pf_pt_product_type=System Also, be sure to have your hardness tested. If your water is harder than 7 gpg be sure to get a water softener or that Navien won't last very long.
The red button that releases the pressure when you change a filter leaks. What do I do?
There is a screw inside the housing up into that button, try tightening the screw.
I recently installed a diy 3 stage 10"x2.5" filtration system with ¾" inlet and outlet. It has a 5 micron gradient, 5 micron CTO, and a 1 micron CTO.
Will this be a sufficient filter setup? Should I change the filters to something different?
My main use for this filtration system is for my 1,500 gallon pond, breeding fish tank (feeder fish for turtle) and for the drinking water in the house.
It really depends on your water's chemistry, how much iron, hardness etc. I always recommend you have your water tested ahead of time before investing in water filtration equipment. See waterestore.com/pages/free-water-test-evaluation-the-water-estore
How to save 0.2micron filter incoming water pressure is 2-4bars which pre filter will be effective 5micron or 2micron so as to save 0.2micron filter what will be shelf life
I would go with the 5 micron. No idea what the life of the filter would be becasue I don't know how much or what you are filtering out and from how much water.
Respectfully sir I m from India and I get clean but yellow water from my borewell so which type of cartridge filter I should take place tell me soon
Depends on what is causing the yellow color. If it is iron, you will need and iron filter. If it is tannins, you will need a tannin filter.
Hello. I'm currently on a spring that gets muddy during moderate to excessive rainy weather. The water never has a noticeable scent, and has no visible contamination /sediment in dry conditions. What filtration setup would likely solve the muddy water issue?
I would go with a Spindown filter like this to do the heavy lifting waterestore.ca/search?q=spindown and then a HUM Automatic backwashing filter like this waterestore.ca/products/hum-auto-backwashable-nexand-filter-1-cubic-foot
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thanks for your reply. I recently had a water test. I'm not looking for perfect water, but for safe water. The areas of concern were: Bacteria count (Coliform and E. Coli present) >160,000 cfu/100mL vs 50,000 EPA ... Iron .52 mg/L vs .30 EPA .... Turbidity 18.8 N.T.U... Calcium 45.53 mg/L ....Hardness 150.3 mg/L Aluminum .84 mg/L vs .05-.20 EPA. I'd prefer to avoid a softener if possible, but would also like to use a UV treatment for the bacteria. What complete setup would you suggest given these facts?
what micron is best for ground water?
It depends on what you want to accomplish. For just rough filtration a 75 to 25 micron dual gradient is always a great first filter.
Question.. for my well 2ater which has a ton of iron and sediment. I have 4 20 inch filters i installed. I installed a 5 micron first then activated carbon. Then KDF then another carbon filter.
After 6 months the 5 micron was filthy. And replaced it. But i noticed i still have iron build up in my toilets and stuff.. i found its iron that only rusts once exposed to air and no filtration will stop this except some air injection filter.
Anyway. 12 months later im replacing all my filters as i now smell the water again. Im going 5 micron and carbon. And kdf again. But for the 4th filter.. should i do another sediment filter in stead of another carbon ? The reason why i ask is i noticed the last 2 20 inch filter containers had iron in them. Maybe a 2nd sediment filter will help remove that oxidizing iron ?
Or should i just go a 2nd carbon filter after the KDF
No you are taking a "band aid" approach to this. You need an actual iron filter. Check out this video ua-cam.com/video/gtuA9dQlrzk/v-deo.html
@@GarytheWaterGuy i tried an iron filter it didnt do anything. Iron filters dont reduce iron that hasnt oxidized yet.
Id need some kind of air injection system to oxidize and store the water to allow it to rust then be filtered.
Edit: i guess thats what you were recomending. I thought you ment an actual iron magnanese filter. Tried that until i realized the iron my sediment filter wasnt getting hasnt been oxidized yet.
I hate how much sediment my well has. Smells of iron without a carbon filter.. and that 5 micron filter after 3 months has a thick layer of mud on it. And sand at the bottom of the blue filter
@@GarytheWaterGuy also the house has a veey old analog water softner. Its been bypassed thlugh with the valve on it. I plugged it in and it does work and i hear it backwashing. But i didnt see any liquid coming from the little tube to the salt tank so i dunno if its functioning right. However when i turn it on and run the water. It smells odd. And is yellowish. Bath tub is yellow.
If i turn the bypass back on the water is crystal clear. Could the resin be bad ? Its a near 25 year old softner
How many micron should be a filter in order to remove chlorine and iron from the municipal water? I want to put this filter in front of the water softener. Thank you.
You would not use a sediment filter, you would use a carbon filter like this waterestore.ca/products/kx-matrikx-cto-20-bb-carbon-filter-32-450-20-matrikx and there should be very little iron in your municipal water which the water softener would remove.
@@GarytheWaterGuy The sediment filter that is a part of my OS system turns red in a week from the rust in the municipal water. I was hoping to protect the softener in the same way that OS system is protected.
Hello could you please tell me what type of system or filter I need to remove colloidal clay? I've payed for just about every water system and filter but nothing removes it except for aluminum sulfate (flocculation/coagulation). Thank you!
For just your drinking water you can use a Reverse Osmosis system like this one waterestore.com/products/hum-water-saver-75-gpd-reverse-osmosis-system-brushed-nickel-faucet
@GarytheWaterGuy thank you so much I will look jnto getting an RO system!
what does Pore: 30 um mean, as does it filter smaller than 5 micron particles
um means microns. The bigger the number the bigger the dirt particle that will get through.
@@GarytheWaterGuy Thank you for the speedy reply, verifying I had it correct, the 30 micron (um) goes before the 5 micron.
@@GarytheWaterGuy gary i have a 1 micron bag for filtering oil i want to use it to filter water how long before it gets clogged can i backwash it so i can reuse over and over thank you
Hi. Is micron filter washable?
The polypropylene filters in this video are not.
Your question is in fact no question.
None of the sediment filter can be good or sufficient for the family for every purpose.
Thus selection of micron rating of filter depends on the initial properties of water sources and it's uses.
It's a title to help explain what the video is about, worded in a way that I hope most people would understand the topic.
I got a lot of sediment in my well.
The you are best suited to an automatic back washing filter like this waterestore.ca/products/hum-auto-backwashable-nexand-filter-1-cubic-foot?_pos=2&_sid=59042090a&_ss=r
Does 1 micron filter stops germs? As i read corona virus is 2.5 micron, does most bacteria n viruses are bigger or smaller than this? Really appreciate ur response
By germs if you mean bacteria and viruses, no it does not. Typically we use UV light for that purpose ua-cam.com/video/75nVzUVI0zM/v-deo.html
What micron level is good for just showering? My goal is to have a system that separates what I drink/cook with from showering, laundry, toilet flushing etc. My primary would be the least filtered going to a holding tank, then the next most filtered on down the line until I get to cooking and drinking.
Depends on what you would like that filter to remove from your water. Usually sediment from well water or chlorine from city water.
Lower speed to .75
If that helps, sure do it.