The Return of the MM300: Seiko - Prospex Marinemaster SLA079, Does it Finally Wear more like an SKX?

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  • Опубліковано 26 жов 2024

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  • @Not-a-bot222
    @Not-a-bot222 16 годин тому +1

    I’m glad you enjoy this watch and thank you for making the video! I’ve been waiting to see this in depth on UA-cam! To me this video solidified that the MM300 professional is the watch for me. I enjoy the size in my 7 1/4 inch wrist, I enjoy the monobloc case as a quirk and interesting detail, and finally but most importantly to me, the dial and handset are just perfections. Huge lume plots, broad brushed hands just perfect. Thank you !

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  15 годин тому +2

      Totally fair, those are legendary for a reason, enjoy it!

  • @paulbugoni2846
    @paulbugoni2846 16 годин тому +3

    Beautiful watch, the 8L movement is excellent, and I love the date placement. Need a black dial diver in my collection and this is it.

  • @robertocela8913
    @robertocela8913 16 годин тому +4

    Undoubtedly a great watch. I owned the SLA073, which apart from the 300m certification, is just the same watch, and loved it. However, I would have loved that Seiko had kept the bigger numerals on the bezel of the limited editions SLA055 and SLA057.

  • @watchdogpodcast239
    @watchdogpodcast239 2 години тому

    They got this one right. Wish more people could see these in person. Would help people understand the price point. Those who know, know. Very nice watch. Enjoy it!

  • @nikc1313
    @nikc1313 9 годин тому

    Seiko absolutely nailed it with this release. Definitely going to be picking it up when the watch fund tops up. Just need a good review of the silver dial to decide which colourway I'm going with.

  • @siddhant46s54
    @siddhant46s54 16 годин тому +3

    Pure perfection from Seiko ! This is the smaller , thinner MM300 I've been dreaming about for yearsss , plus me being an absolute sucker for symmetry and no dates on a diver , the 4:30 inconspicuous black date window/wheel with the full 3 o'clock hour marker looks too damn good ( the symmetrical lume shots are satisfying asff to look at ).
    The 1968 diver 6159 and its evolutions in the form of the MM300's are the only divers watch design language that I like apart from the Rolex Submariner ( no date for the casuals , but it should just be called the Submariner , not a Submariner no date ) , but I could never bring myself to buy one cuz of numerous reasons ( the size , the thickness , that odd small sized dial and handset for such big watch just looked too off visually , those stupid long links on and clasp , I like me divers to have a bezel sloping downwards toward the case whereas the MM300's had that tall completely flat bezel which was an eye sore to look at )
    The SLA079 has solved all the things I that held me back from buying the MM300's , while also somehow retaining all the iconic characteristics, also making it even more proportionate and beautiful ( also like the LX inspired styling on this ). This is probably going to be my first Seiko watch ever , can't get any more perfect than this and I'm getting well rewarded for my patience and restraint over the years ( restrained myself from buying and of the 4r or 6r mid range bs and held out for the perfect high end SLA stuff )
    Thanks for the great video , you are probably my favourite channel to watch Seiko reviews on as you share the same amount of passion and enthusiasm for Seiko as I do ! Keep doing the great work you do ! one this I would like to suggest is that you add a few outdoor wrist rolls and moving around the watch in sunlight shots to give us a better perspective on how it looks IRL , Thanks !

  • @AnitaSpankyBB
    @AnitaSpankyBB 8 годин тому +1

    Superb review, this is definitely going to end up in my collection, I love these new MM200 style cases. I much prefer them over the 62MAS

    • @michaelharper9194
      @michaelharper9194 5 годин тому

      Something about those angular lugs with a mix of polish and brushed sides is just so exquisite and flows so beautifully from the side of the watch. Capped off with a 4 O'clock crown calling card that is Seiko. This puts the GS Diver to shame when it comes to design, maybe they need a new company: Grand Prospex 😅

  • @georgecupac1202
    @georgecupac1202 5 годин тому +1

    i like the "X" .
    that watch looks good.

  • @khronokraze
    @khronokraze 16 годин тому +1

    Great video! You are spot on on everything. I've been enjoying the (opaline) white dial SLA077. A very happy purchase indeed.
    As I've been on a mass reduction to maintain a very tight and concentrated watch collection, one thing I've been missing and waiting to reintroduce and maintain in my collection is a Seiko.
    But which one? Which could be THE definitive Seiko for me? Seiko has so many original designs which can be iconic within their respective genres. But, their dive watches are probably THE most iconic and innovative.
    And there are so many great Seiko dive watch designs. But, I have to say the 6159-7001 based design, the colloquial "Marinemaster 300" style that so many admire, is probably my favorite of all the designs.
    Thus, I was super excited when the SLA077/79 were announced. And, I basically knew the SLA077 would be THE Seiko and THE dive watch that will be my main watch for a long time. Yes, pricey. but, i did get a discount on mine. I figure buy one great designed and quality Seiko dive watch a be done with it... For now.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  14 годин тому +1

      Thank you and glad you're enjoying the 077, it's a real beauty. I appreciate your continued support and thoughtful comments 🙏

  • @lazerbeam608
    @lazerbeam608 8 годин тому

    Picked up the SLA077, the white version. The movment is very accurate out of the box. Huge upgrade from a 6R movemnet. Only complaints are a hot spot on the caseback as the wave design is recessed. The polished accents on the bracelet are actually separate parts of the links. Your arm hairs will catch every once in awhile. Not a deal breaker. The finish on the stainless is a bit "sticky" are first. Itll probably get better with time. Pros...LUME!!! love this lume. If youre a seikoholic its worth picking up.

    • @hammalamiri12
      @hammalamiri12 4 години тому

      My SLA diver also caused me to sweat on the caseback , thought I was going crazy 😂

  • @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78
    @A_Dude_And_His_Watch78 17 годин тому +1

    Now that is a beautiful watch.

  • @qbaneando
    @qbaneando 14 годин тому +2

    Expect a new MM600 soon. I think the trio of these new Marinemasters will be the Prospex flagship models.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  14 годин тому +2

      I'd love to see the Marinemaster branding return to the Tuna, maybe a 44mm Hi-Beat MM600 modernized Golden Tuna, ooh that'd be epic!

    • @dikkie1000
      @dikkie1000 9 годин тому

      @@AverageBros They could re-issue the 600m spring drive dive watches, the Tuna and the MM600 GMT.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  9 годин тому

      @@dikkie1000 I feel like some of the more tech-heavy deep divers would probably be better suited in the LX line and any modern Marinemasters should have some additional level of refinement towards wearability included, so if they did bring back something like the SBDB011 MM600 Spring Drive GMT, for me it'd be more of an LX model, while a Hi-Beat 8L55 powered Tuna in 45mm or less would feel more Marinemaster-like.

  • @stevenwatchenthusiast
    @stevenwatchenthusiast 9 годин тому

    Hey thanks for the insight. I’m really liking this watch.

  • @1968jpy
    @1968jpy 10 годин тому

    I know this is a great watch and it looks awesome 🤩 but being the new owner of my SLA047J1 MM300 my grail of grail watches I can’t help but think Seiko has watered down the original design of the legendary Marine Master watch . You mentioned you’re paying less but you’re getting less . The case is no longer and monoblock case , it’s no longer a saturation diver , the bezel is no longer ceramic bezel. It’s not that I don’t like it but to me and again now owning the traditional MM300 it just seems to that Seiko is pissing on my leg and telling me it’s raining 🌧. With that said I live near a Seiko Lux dealer ( Little Treasury Jewelers) and am excited to check this watch out in person. Maybe 🤔 I might have a change of heart . One thing I forgot to mention the loss of the Marine Master clasp is definitely a deal breaker for me . If I did own this watch I definitely buy a original MM300 clasp and add it to the bracelet.

  • @SaSpursFan
    @SaSpursFan 15 годин тому +1

    Would have liked a gloss black dial

  • @macguyverson9370
    @macguyverson9370 14 годин тому +1

    Looks great!

  • @simeonaleksiev8690
    @simeonaleksiev8690 12 годин тому

    The "original marinemaster " - 6159 is NOT a saturation diving watch. The first he-safe diver made by Seiko is the 6159 Tuna.

  • @mezcalycafe8702
    @mezcalycafe8702 11 годин тому

    I wanted the white dial @ first . I think this black dial might be the one to get

  • @hammalamiri12
    @hammalamiri12 17 годин тому

    I tried this on at the GS boutique, the finishing / design and execution is fantastic and I like how it’s more fairly priced compared to other high end Seiko divers but the bezel grip seemed a bit sharp for me. Sometimes Seiko should focus on the modern use as well as the professional use of these higher tier watches and they can then definitely move upmarket

    • @paulbugoni2846
      @paulbugoni2846 16 годин тому

      Which boutique (location) if you don’t mind telling us?

    • @hammalamiri12
      @hammalamiri12 4 години тому

      @@paulbugoni2846Grand Seiko boutique - Bond Street London , know the staff there very well :)

  • @jay_ohhlayy
    @jay_ohhlayy 12 годин тому

    That dial tho!! 🙌

  • @noelmurphy3450
    @noelmurphy3450 9 годин тому

    Great watch👏👏

  • @Nj-gt5fz
    @Nj-gt5fz 12 годин тому

    Mark what's the actual accuracy of the watch?looks great

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  11 годин тому +1

      Although not guaranteed by Seiko, mine hasn't lost a single second over the course of 3days since winding and setting it.

    • @Nj-gt5fz
      @Nj-gt5fz 10 годин тому

      @AverageBros wow that's unbelievabley good

  • @SaSpursFan
    @SaSpursFan 15 годин тому

    Love it other than the damn date window! They vertically aligned the cheaper models date window but couldn’t in this one??? 😤

    • @siddhant46s54
      @siddhant46s54 13 годин тому +1

      You’ve got to understand that Seiko won’t give the vertical circular date window for a watch with circular hour markers as it will look odd , hence the square date window

  • @UnNamedTrucker
    @UnNamedTrucker 9 годин тому

    Oh no! I won’t be able to satiation dive with this watch? Also, what is saturation diving?

  • @kamelthorn
    @kamelthorn 3 години тому

    I’d rather go for a Micro brand, such as Wise, better value and finish, plus the bezel is aligned.

  • @mathieulandry2181
    @mathieulandry2181 13 годин тому

    How to feel this one vs the SPB383 GMT ?

  • @R2-SO
    @R2-SO 11 годин тому

    It looks very similar or almost identical to the SPB383J1, it’s hard for me to distinguish them.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  11 годин тому +1

      They definitely share a lot of the same DNA, so I can understand that

    • @CommViewer
      @CommViewer 7 годин тому +1

      I got to try on the SPB383J1 and this SLA079 back to back. The SLA in person has a fantastic presence and reminds me of when I first tried on a great watch with great presence (Omega Seamaster). The SPB is gorgeous but the bracelet on the SLA outshines it. So in terms of a black dialed watches the SLA wins out for me. That said, the green version of the SPB is probably the most gorgeous green colored watch out there (better than the Hulk!).

  • @UncleHoCM
    @UncleHoCM Годину тому

    I'm not feeling the bezels edge on this one.

  • @AboveTheClouds87
    @AboveTheClouds87 11 годин тому

    I wish the indices were bigger

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  11 годин тому

      I think it's actually just a bit of an optical illusion that makes them seem smaller, the dial is just larger and less crowded than the classic MM300

  • @buckethead84
    @buckethead84 16 годин тому +6

    It's nice but I can't stomach the price, which is unfortunate since I started the hobby with seiko but these days I'd rather go with micros or established German brands.

    • @ernestorivera3936
      @ernestorivera3936 16 годин тому +1

      There is the SPB range with similar designs and lower prices

    • @Smcat913
      @Smcat913 15 годин тому +1

      I agree with lower end Seiko's. the value is no longer there compared to a good micro or a brand like Christopher ward. However, with this being the 8l movement (a proper 4hz movement) and probably being able to get new unworn piece with a discount off msrp for around $2400.00 +/- I think this is a value piece. If they come out with more colors and dials I think I might be finally willing to spend more that $700 or $800 for a watch😁

    • @buckethead84
      @buckethead84 14 годин тому

      @@ernestorivera3936 yes but even those are overpriced

    • @buckethead84
      @buckethead84 14 годин тому +1

      @@Smcat913 why do we applaud Seiko for putting in a 4hz unregulated movement? Sw200 or miyota 9000 series can do the same with reliability at a fraction of the cost. In fact, you can get micros with a regulated sw300 at half the price of this Seiko, not worth it.

    • @Smcat913
      @Smcat913 13 годин тому +4

      @@buckethead84 I agree with you for the most part, I would take a sw200 or miyota 9000 series over any seiko with a 4r or 6r movement. In fact that's what i usually do😁 I have cw trident and a wise adamascus gmt they are both awesome, I really like them alot! they are both a step up compared to my king Samari and both movements are better which is why i would go with a micro because, you can get the miyota or the selitta. However, I could be wrong but I believe the 8l is big step up from sw or miyota. My understanding is that these movements have 0 positional variance and also use mems technology so would be more comparable to a movement from say like Tudor or somebody. with Tudor your getting a better bracelet and clasp and maybe bettter build quality I'm not sure but I look at this seiko piece as a higher quality watch than sw or miyota based watch closer to a Tudor.

  • @Smcat913
    @Smcat913 15 годин тому

    Are you sure about the hardness coating? I was under the impression that was something they didnt do to bring the price down

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  15 годин тому +1

      Some Seiko site listings specify that it's there while others don't, SeikoLuxe did say it was there, so I'm going with that 😅

  • @pibblesnbits
    @pibblesnbits 6 годин тому

    Lacks charm of the original design. Seems more mass produced if that makes sense.

  • @ShortLifeHax
    @ShortLifeHax 15 годин тому +1

    *Why get this when a Serica 5303 red liner is superior in price and looks and everything else.*

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  15 годин тому +1

      No thanks 🙏

    • @ShortLifeHax
      @ShortLifeHax 7 годин тому +1

      @@AverageBros Serica is the goat, unlike seiko they've made incremental improvements. Seiko has lost its way in identity and price. Just because they put Marinemaster on the dial on many watches doesn't change the fact that they're confused.
      Next you're gonna see a Marinemaster Willard.
      But hey to each his own, we're all seikopaths in one way shape or form.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  7 годин тому +3

      @@ShortLifeHax I don't work for Seiko, so your issues with their brand don't bother me, I'm just a guy who has experienced a lot of watches, I mean over 1000 just counting the reviews on my channel, let alone all of the ones I didn't produce content for.
      One thing to realize is that not every product is market to you, so if you don't like it, it's not necessarily a failure of the product, you just may not part of their target audience and that's okay.

  • @casanova9227
    @casanova9227 Годину тому

    the fkin bezel ugly sound not clicky i have tag heuer better then it wtf

  • @holgermuller3597
    @holgermuller3597 11 годин тому +1

    Three grand for a SEIKO - Is this the reason for NASA to search for intelligent life in outer space??